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I'm your host, Jessica Murnane (author, horticultural therapy practitioner, and founder of Basker) – who is equally obsessed with the healing power of nature and the healing power of watching TV in bed. And I'm merging those two worlds together with this podcast, Inside + Outside.
Each week, my guest and I first discuss an OUTSIDE thing, like our first nature memory, how gardening can change the brain, and the rise of birding. Then we cover an INSIDE thing, like a show we're binging, the latest internet gossip, and food, beauty, or fashion trends we love (or that need to go away).
Head to baskergardens.com for all the show notes for each episode!
Each week, my guest and I first discuss an OUTSIDE thing, like our first nature memory, how gardening can change the brain, and the rise of birding. Then we cover an INSIDE thing, like a show we're binging, the latest internet gossip, and food, beauty, or fashion trends we love (or that need to go away).
Head to baskergardens.com for all the show notes for each episode!
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About this week's guest: Akaya advises, trains, and consults on how change happens individually, organizationally, and societally. She is on faculty of the Just Economy Institute, is Lead Advisor at Third Act, and is founder of the New Universal Wisdom and Leadership Institute. She was President of Rockwood Leadership Institute for ten years, and directs the Thriving Roots Fund. Akaya received the 2020 Vision Award from Middlebury College, was one of Conscious Company's 30 World Changing Women of 2018, an Ella Award recipient from the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, and served on the Alameda County Human Rights Commission. Akaya is deeply committed to working for a fair and equitable global society while infusing a sense of purpose, delight, and wonder into everything we do. Show notes! This week's sponsor: My July Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Start A Well-Being GardenLearn To Grow Cut Flowers Use code GROW for $5o off until December 1st Akaya's work: WebsiteThird Act Just Economy InstituteLeading with Joy: Practices for Uncertain Times Things we talked about: Ecotopia by Ernest CallenbachAlways Coming Home by Ursula K. Le Guin Becky Chamber books Dawn by Octavia Butler To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code GROW for $50 off a one-on-one growing session. Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack Stuff we talked about: Historic magnolia trees removed for White House ballroomMassive Web—Home to More Than 100,000 SpidersAll's FairExMasOh. What. Fun. Find your hardiness / growing zone here To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Allison and her sisters, Elaine and Jacqueline, founded Le Prunier in 2018. Prior to the development of Le Prunier, Allison worked with companies such as Giorgio Armani, Mother Denim, and STX Entertainment. Her eye for design and genuine love for all things health + wellness has finally culminated into her most exciting project yet. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Start A Well-Being GardenLearn To Grow Cut Flowers Use code GROW for $5o off until December 1st Where you can find Allison: Le Prunier's website and IG Allison's IG Things we talked about: The Orchard ProjectReality TV's Bad Boyfriend Is Angry Again. This Time, He's Yelling at Gavin Newsom via NYTThe Guy You Love To Hate To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Allie Lehman is the founder of Wonderly, a design and development studio. She also writes Huge Fan, a publication about fandom and business (it's part storytelling, part strategy, and always about the way fans shape what lasts). She's also an artist and illustrator and serves on the board of All People Arts. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter New session: Starting A Well-Being Garden Where you can find Allie:WonderlyHuge FanIllustrations Things we talked about: American Iris SocietyNorth American Lily Society American Daffodil SocietyNational Chrysanthemum Society American Begonia Society American Peony Society The Story Behind Wayfair via Business InsiderZingerman's Community of Businesses Zingerman's Olive Oils To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Clare is the Garden Editor at House & Garden magazine and a freelance garden journalist. After starting her career in book publishing, she spent nine years at Gardens Illustrated magazine (1996-2005), latterly as Editor. As well as writing about plants and gardens, Clare has always gardened herself, first on an allotment in London, and now in her garden in West Berkshire. She is the author of six books including most recently Pastoral Gardens (2024, Montgomery Press) and writes a weekly column on Substack. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The WebsiteMyles Trudell Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Clare: WebsiteHouse & GardenCreate AcademyPastoral GardensSubstackInstagram Knepp Castle Garden by Tom Stuart-SmithSalvia 'Phyllis' Fancy'Slow HorsesChrysanthemumsRHS Find your hardiness / growing zone here To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Amelia is a feminist writer, podcaster and producer. She is the founder of Softer Sounds podcast studio, and the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media. Her new book, Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media is out in fall 2025. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The WebsiteMyles Trudell Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Amelia: WebsiteOff The Grid podcastSofter SoundsYour Attention is Sacred (Except on Social Media) How To Do Nothing: Resisting The Attention Economy BandcampFree Little LibraryTen Arguments For Leaving Your Social Media Account Right Now Find your hardiness / growing zone here To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Marisa is a journalist and New York Times best selling author. She's covered beauty, fashion, wellness, and celebrity for top national publications such as The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue, and Vanity Fair. She is the author of It Girl, Glossy, This Is Big, How Sassy Changed My Life, and Girl Power. Show notes! Sign up for the Virtual Group Session on October 26th Sign up for How To Make Your Podcast A Reality workshop This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter The French Gardening Craze, 1908-1914 Horticulture, politics and the media in Edwardian Britain Where you can find Marisa: Website Marisa's IGIt Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane BirkinGlossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier Irish Blood on Acorn TV Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Kerrilyn is an author and founder of CAP Beauty. Show notes! Sign up for the Basker Virtual Group Session on October 26th This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Kerrilyn: CAP Beauty CAP Beauty IG Kerrilyn IG Serotoner Purina x Purple Leash Project Republicans Want to Ban Pets From Domestic Violence Shelters via Mother Jones Psychophysiological Responses of Cut Flower Fragrances as an Olfactory Stimulation by Measurement of Electroencephalogram in Adults Carnations! Seeds from Johnny'sPlants from Bluestone Perennials Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention--and How to Think Deeply Again Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week's sponsor: It's Love Y'all Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack The Joy of birds: the effect of rating for joy or counting garden bird species on wellbeing, anxiety, and nature connection Birding With Benefits by Sarah T Dubbs DOC trailer Cut Flower Class at Redux Contemporary Art Center The Paper Canopy Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
Jules is a natural farmer, soil researcher, and garden educator based in New Orleans. His background includes school gardening, cannabis cultivation, worm-based composting & large-scale organic food production. He currently works at Rosy Soil where he formulates peat-free, biochar-based potting soils that are organic, high quality and sustainably produced. Show notes! This week's sponsor: It's Love Y'all Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Jules: TikTok InstagramRosy Soil The Surprising Ways Soil Can Aid Our Mental Health Come by Here: A Memoir in Essays from Georgia's Geechee Coast by Neesha Powell-Ingabire Red Foliated White Cotton from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange No Dig Gardening Mole Cricket Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers
About this week's guest: Ochuko is the writer and marketer behind as seen on, a newsletter about business, culture, and gen z trends. She lives between Lagos and Europe. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Ochuko's Newsletter: As Seen On Neighborhood attachment and its correlates: Exploring neighborhood conditions, collective efficacy, and gardening Find your hardiness / growing zone here Cool Season Cut Flower Sessions
About this week's guest: Michelle and her recipes have become a staple in home cooking around the globe since the publication of her first book in 2014 which was an instant #1 New York Times best-seller. She has 5 bestselling cookbooks, published in over 8 different languages. She headed an award-winning brand, Bad Manners for 12 years and now heading up her own weekly newsletter, Stir the Pot. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Michelle's Book: Hungry As Hell (the book with the mac n' cheese recipe!) Website Newsletter: Stir The PotIG Understanding Food Literacy in Urban Gardeners: A Case Study of the Twin Cities, Minnesota The Moth Snowstorm by Michael McCarthy One Of Them Days Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Karen Azoulay is a Canadian born, Brooklyn-based artist and author. Inspired by "feminine" motifs, she explores cultural phenomena that have historically been overlooked with the purpose of recontextualizing and championing them. Karen's projects have been featured in publications such as the New York Times, New Yorker, Hyperallergic, and Vogue. Her book Flowers and Their Meanings, The Secret Language and History of Over 600 Blooms was selected by Barnes & Noble as one of the best books of 2023. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Karen's Book: Flowers and Their Meanings Website Newsletter: Flowers and Their MeaningsIG Observing versus creating flowers: a review of relevance for art therapy Gomprehna seeds Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Barri Leiner Grant is a grief specialist and the founder of The Memory Circle for grief support – a place and space she created for those learning to live with loss. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post, Psychology Today, Maria Shriver's Sunday Paper, on award winning podcasts, television appearances and radio shows. She frequently hosts retreats at The Omega Institute and Kripalu Center. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Barri's: Website: The Memory Circle Newsletter: (permission GRANTed) Upcoming Events: Conscious Grieving Retreat Living With Loss: Support GroupIG Growing Grief: Cultivating Life After Death in the Garden by Avril Tynan My Mom Jayne The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning The Beauty of What Remains and For You When I'm Gone by Steve Leder
About this week's guest: Emily Fiffer is a restaurant owner (Botanica, in Silverlake) and writer (read, eat, repeat) living in LA. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Emily's: Restaurant: Botanica Botanica's Online ShopNewsletter (read, eat, repeat) Prospect + Refuge Theory The Cazalet Chronicles by Elizabeth Jane Howard Doppelganger by Naomi Klein Slipsteam by Elizabeth Jane Howard
About this week's guest: Laura Wright is the founder of The First Mess, a blog for plant-based recipe inspiration as well as a of cookbook of the same name. Hailing from the Niagara region of southern Ontario, Laura enjoys taking on way too many projects in the garden, hiking with her dogs, working on a weekly feel-good newsletter, dilly dallying, and doing pretty much any offline activity. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Personal Business Podcast Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Laura's: Website: The First Mess Newsletter Book: The First MessIG Study: Prescribing Nature for Human Health: An Examination of Public Interest, Barriers, and Enablers Related to Nature Prescription Programming in Canada Crispy & Chewy Air Fryer Edamame The Menopause Brain by Dr. Lisa Mosconi Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Michael Ventura is an accomplished leader, practitioner, and educator. As the founder of strategy and design consultancy Sub Rosa, he advised influential organizations from the American Civil Liberties Union, Goldman Sachs, Google, Microsoft, and Nike to well-respected institutions such as The United Nations and the Obama-Biden Administration. He is a visiting lecturer at institutions such as The University of Michigan's Ross School of Business, Princeton University, and the United States Military Academy at West Point. He is the author of the book, Applied Empathy, and is currently working on his second book. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Personal Business Podcast Michael's: Newsletter: Understanding UnderstandingPersonal + Business websitesLinkedin Making Empathy A Weapon via NYT Study: Empathy with nature promotes pro-environmental attitudes in preschool children Mandela Effect Links: The 'Mandela Effect' describes the false memories many of us share. But why can't scientists explain it? via CNN 50 Mandela Effect Examples via Parade Mandela Effect Short Documentary via YouTube Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Jessica DeFino is an award-winning beauty reporter and critic (The New York Times, Vice, Vogue). She writes the Guardian's beauty advice column, Ask Ugly, and the newsletter The Review of Beauty. She's been called "the woman the beauty industry fears" by the Sunday Herald. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Jessica's Newsletter: The Review of Beauty Jessica's Guardian Series: Ask Ugly Photos of myself make me shudder in horror. Does that mean I'm hideous? by Jessica DeFino The Relationship Between Nature and Body Image Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Joey has been a food, wine and travel journalist for almost two decades. Currently, he is on his second tour of duty at Bon Appétit and Epicurious, where he oversees all things drinks and lifestyle coverage. He was previously an editor and reporter at The Chicago Tribune, The Philadelphia Inquirer, Thrillist and Wine Enthusiast. He has worked with the James Beard Foundation on a number of committees, and is an alum of so many journalist and art fellowships (and won some awards too). Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Joey at Bon Appétit Joey on Instagram Fruit Walls: Urban Farming in the 1600s Study: Psychological Impacts of Houseplants Care Behaviour on Mental Well-Being and Mindfulness Perfect Days directed by Wim Wenders How One Man's Obsession with Fruit Created the UK's Most Exquisite Spirits via Bon Appétit Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
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