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This is a place for dialogue about 'Christians vs Pharisees: Choosing sides and how to fight for them in the Mormon Civil War' and other collaborations like 'The Loyal Opposition' where Peter Bleakley has teamed up with Nemo the Mormon. At current rates of decline in active membership the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will functionally cease to exist in Europe, most of the rest of the world and several regions of the USA in the next 10-15 years, so radical reforms need to happen now if it is to survive, and it may already too late. The vast majority of members have already left the Church globally, including 80% of the young people raised in it, and recently leaked data has revealed that in my homeland of the UK and the Republic of Ireland we are down to less than 15% of our members active and it is falling fast. The stats across the rest of Europe are similar. I will be discussing not only what the General Authorities and local leaders and members have to stop doing and saying to choose Christian Mormonism instead of Pharisee Mormonism (and stop trying to teach and practice both at once and failing), but also the positive changes that need to happen radically and fast to have this amazing religion with so much positive potential survive and thrive in the real world of the 21st Century. What do you think it will take?
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In this presentation from the recent 2025 Sunstone UK symposium I review my version of the journey hundreds of thousands of Latter-day Saints have walked from passionate enthusiasm for this religion to astonished disillusionment, yet still not able to entirely walk away. I talk about some of the amazing, forward thinking and potentially world changing yet simple ideas in the best of Mormon thought, with a particular focus on the superstar LDS intellectuals who I have only recently discovered ...
After 5 years of the Mormon Civil War podcast, I team up with Gene Judson and Randy Watts of Latter Daily Digest to make infallible prophecies about how the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will continue to change over the next 5 years.
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this final conversation Paul shares his conclusions about the Godhead that the text of the Book of Mormon actually describes, and it’s nothing like the ‘Fullness of the Gospel’ deity the LDS Church thinks it is telling us to believe in. We also talk about the what a final judgement may involve when administered by a merciful deity who is rooting for us to learn and grow and become like them.
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this penultimate episode we try to make some sense of 5 of the biggest conundrums in Mormon theology: 1 - How is God male and female? 2 - Who actually is Jehovah in the Temple Endowment? 3 - Disentangling who is what in the several different Mormon Godheads 4 - Who exactly is who in the world planning scene in the Book of Abraham? 5 - The nature of the Atonement of Christ. Mormon Doctrines can be a lot wil...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues As we continue to ponderize how to integrate the religiously ideal with the real in our normal lives, Paul and I discuss what it means to base a religion on the glory described in Mormon scriptures of truth, light and freedom to think for yourself rather than Lucifer’s religion of militaristic acclaim for conquering and controlling other people. What a Mormonism of open minded curiosity and respect for science blesses you ...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this meaty episode we explore all kinds of aspects of what taking the LDS temple endowment’s promises seriously can unlock for autonomous, ordained men and women empowered to free themselves from authoritarian control by General Authorities and instead replace them as the democratic, equal ‘Quorum of the Anointed’ Joseph Smith originally established. We reflect on what Community of Christ has pioneered in making Common ...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In the first of a 2-parter we start to learn what Paul Toscano means by ‘Chapel Priesthoods’ and ‘Temple Priesthoods’. After a much more sophisticated beginning, how did the LDS leaders establish a male-only, correlated bureaucracy that tightly controls every expression of priesthood authority and blessing? And is there any way for an asphyxiating Church, and particularly women, to escape its iron grip?
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues How do you solve a problem like Joseph Smith? Can a master manipulator, con artist, skilful storyteller, sexual predator, financial fraudster, and destroyer of printing presses also be a prophet of God? The Apologists for the LDS Church have had to concede enormous amounts of territory in recent decades to acknowledge his many flaws, but is their rather weak pleading to ‘give Brother Joseph a break’ by saying w...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode we wrestle with the conflicting qualities required of the leaders of a religion. Ideally they need to balance a mystical sensitivity for the divine, a calling to challenge society to do better and champion the interests of the poor and oppressed as social justice warriors, a duty to protect and pass on sacred rituals, and the ability to manage practical day to day administrative and financial matters....
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode we dive into the challenges and frustrations of interacting with a religious text. If it is not accurate, literal history, why should we still bother with the Book of Mormon as metaphorically or religiously useful literature? After all, we can learn dozens of profoundly helpful and ‘true’ life lessons about self-sacrifice, love, courage, compassion, salvation, ethical complexity and what to do with ...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode, with reference to powerful visionary experiences of his own and his ancestors, Paul explores the simultaneous relationship between the real and the figurative in the visions and encounters with the divine that lead people to begin or believe in religions. We may struggle to tell the difference between dreams and visions, but do we need to?
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this third of 12 conversations we discuss how to have a rational faith. What is the difference between using our intellectual reasoning and imagination rooted in all available evidence and lived experience to construct and evolve a belief system personally or collectively, and a much less credible religion based on fantasies disconnected from evidence and science? And I ruminate on the pros and cons of Paul’...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this second of 12 conversations we explore the ultimate theological conundrum: If religion and Gods are real rather than a human invention to help us cope with our own inevitable deaths, how are we to bridge the gap between our existence as limited mortal animals trapped in a brief space-time continuum or timeline with a beginning and an end, and the existence of a God that is eternal and is not limited like that?...
Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this first of 12 conversations we explore some of Paul's journey to excommunicated September Sixer and beyond as one of the very few people even trying to be a proper theologian in Mormonism. We start to chew on what Mormonism has to offer Christians who have been wrestling with the nature of God and humans for 2000 years, and consider how to hold fast to what seems good while not being afraid to dump the rest in a rel...
I grew up in an LDS Mormonism ready to take on the world, fill the world and rescue mainstream Christianity from its fundamental doctrinal flaws. Fearless about an intellectually defendable thoughtful faith and fizzing with big ideas about people, Gods, and our destiny in the stars of a vast universe that could keep up with the expanding realms of everything that science and science fiction could imagine, as well as modern social and political developments towards the supremacy of democracy a...
With April 2024 General Conference looming in a few days, the Church haemorrhaging members and facing extinction in the coming decade, and a First Presidency in their 90’s and on their very last legs, how about a different kind of General Conference Predictions show? Rather than being hopeful but realistic in our predictions for what the General Authorities will actually announce from their velvet thrones, what if we predicted everything they actually NEED to announce and change to save the C...
What if there was a General Conference of the leading LDS Loonbats selling dangerous brutal parenting, energy healing mumbo jumbo, porn addiction paranoia, anti-science propaganda, child rescuing fraud with celebrity donors, thought-stopping Blind Faith and end time prepper visions of imminent apocalypse? All curated by notorious ‘Visions of Glory’ Mentor-To-The-Maniacs Thom Harrison… with a General Authority thrown in? Well, there was! Find out what they said before it was ...
As I continue to map out a pathway for radically reforming the LDS Church to avoid its imminent self-destruction that is already authorised by its scriptures and written constitution, things just got wild! This episode will begin to guide you through the astonishing parade of scammers and lunatics with their own visions for the rescue and future of the Church who have been infiltrating every level of the religious and political hierarchy and the wider culture in Mormonland... with headline-gr...
The 11A 'Take Back Control' miniseries will resume soon, but here is a special treat. Maven crossed the world to join me in the Sceptred Isles and review an extraordinary and rare encounter in Online Mormon World. Brian Hales, regarded as the leading expert on Joseph Smith's Polygamy having published a trilogy about it, went on Michelle Stone's podcast '132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy' podcast which is the flagship voice for a growing movement of Latter-day Saints w...
As the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints falls into its final self-inflicted spiral to destruction here in the UK, around the world, and even in its American heartlands, it's time to get real. After 5 years of exploring the causes and solutions for this crisis, in this miniseries I will make the strongest case I can for what has gone wrong and how we have to bring about significant regime change at the General Authority level to have any hope of the Church surviving, or deserv...
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