Former Chancellor and YouGov co-founder Nadhim Zahawi joins Steve Rigby on The Policy Fix for a candid conversation on business, politics, and Britain’s economic future.
Zahawi reflects on leading the UK’s COVID vaccine rollout, revealing how rapid decision-making, military logistics, and direct access to Boris Johnson enabled Britain to move faster than Europe. He shares lessons from building national infrastructure at speed — and why urgency in government has since disappeared.
They also explore why the UK is losing competitiveness, from AstraZeneca investing abroad to rising energy costs, regulatory pressure, and the risks facing Britain’s industrial base. Zahawi explains how he built YouGov from scratch after the dot-com crash, how a pivotal Freeserve partnership changed everything, and why AI will completely transform research, education, and business.
The conversation turns to Zahawi’s decision to join Reform, his assessment of Nigel Farage’s leadership, and whether the party can become a serious governing force. He discusses immigration, welfare reform, AI policy, and what Britain must do to restore growth and attract global talent.
A rare insider view from someone who has built companies, run major government departments, and helped lead Britain through one of its biggest crises.
Timestamps
00:00 Welcome to The Policy Fix
01:01 Zahawi’s journey through business and government
02:14 Inside Britain’s COVID vaccine rollout
06:42 How Brexit gave the UK a vaccine advantage
07:28 Why AstraZeneca and pharma are investing abroad
10:26 Founding YouGov and spotting the internet opportunity
14:03 The pivot that saved YouGov after the dot-com crash
16:37 The breakthrough that proved YouGov worked
18:44 How AI will transform market research
20:07 Why government lacks business experience
26:05 Migration, urgency, and government decision-making
28:46 Energy costs and Britain’s industrial strategy problem
33:00 Welfare, work incentives, and economic decline
36:57 AI regulation and avoiding Europe’s mistakes
39:32 Why Alphabet and DeepMind are so powerful
40:13 Britain’s biggest startup funding weakness
41:05 How AI tutors could reshape education
43:27 Universities, talent, and keeping innovation in the UK
44:34 Why Zahawi joined Reform
48:09 Nigel Farage, leadership, and preparing for power
56:06 Building a serious political movement
01:05:57 Defections, politics, and Britain’s direction
01:10:54 Charity selection: Adam Smith Institute
01:12:52 The Policy Fix: Abolishing inheritance tax
01:15:42 Funding tax reform
01:16:49 Final thoughts
About The Policy Fix
Hosted by Steve Rigby, The Policy Fix explores what’s broken in Britain - and how to fix it.
No politics. No spin. Just honest conversations with people who get things done.
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