The Models We Live By

On today's episode we have SHOC's pastor Donna Burkland on! We get to talk about how Intersectionality adds complexity to one's life and can result in additional expenses, how disability justice should be covered by insurance, and also attending conferences and making plans can be exciting and require careful consideration.Check out her church: https://www.safeharboroc.com/Or follow her on IG: https://www.instagram.com/donnaaburkland/ Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

In this conversation, Emily Paulson discusses her journey as a recovery advocate and her experience with multi-level marketing (MLM). She shares her involvement with the Sober Mom Squad, an online community for moms struggling with alcohol use. She explains what MLMs are and why they can be harmful and reflects on her own participation in an MLM and the realization of her complicity in upholding harmful systems. Emily emphasizes the importance of sitting with discomfort and recognizing the nuances in complex issues. She encourages individuals to challenge assumptions and strive for a deeper understanding of the systems they are a part of.Takeaways Recognize the harm that MLMs can cause and be cautious of their predatory nature. Engage in open and honest conversations about complicity and the systems we participate in. Sit with discomfort and embrace ambiguity to foster personal growth and understanding. Challenge assumptions and strive for a deeper understanding of complex issues.Links and Socials: Instagram Buy "Hey, Hun" Sober Mom Squad Ted Talk (no biggie) Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

In this episode we are joined by my friends Billie Hoard and Eden and we have a frank conversation about our trans journey, how we struggle, and ultimately how we embrace growth. Follow Billie:TwitterInstagramThreadsSubstackFollow Eden and his podcast InstagramPodcast Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Hello all! We're back with Season 4!As has become tradition, we start the season with my wife Kim and hear her insights on this season's topics. This Season is all about intersectionality; we explore and dive deeper into what that means. If you have the chance, do watch the Ted Talk by Kimberlé Crenshaw about the The urgency of intersectionality: https://www.ted.com/talks/kimberle_crenshaw_the_urgency_of_intersectionalityfollow on IG: @michevanessenfollow on TT: @michevanessenEmail us: miche@jointheresonance.comsubscribe to the Like Quiche Substack: https://likequiche.substack.com/and learn more about how we can help your faith organization thrive in a healthy way: www.jointheresaoncne.com Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

On today's show, we are joined by Micah Melody Taberner. Micah Melody is the Community Care Coordinator for Transmission Ministry Collective—an online community dedicated to the spiritual care, faith formation, and leadership potential of transgender and gender-expansive Christians. The TMC community is created by and for trans people, building a space where trans Christians can be connected to others, grounded in their identity and faith, and empowered to lead. Their programs include an array of support groups, a 24-7 moderated chat server, a leadership development initiative, and educational and faith formation events for both trans folks and those wishing to practice allyship. You can learn more about TMC at https://transmissionministry.com. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Just a heads up, there are some siren sounds in the background. Today's guest is Liz Edamn. Liz Edman (she/her) is an Episcopal priest and political strategist, a published author of "Queer Virtue" who has been igniting people's understanding of Christianity and queer life for more than 25 years.  She has lived and worked on the front lines of some of the most salient contemporary issues where religion meets sexuality, serving as an inner city hospital chaplain to people with HIV/AIDS from 1989 to 1995, helping craft political and communications strategies for marriage equality efforts, and persevering for almost two decades to become an openly queer priest in the Episcopal Church.   Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

On today's episode, we are joined by Pastor Anthony from the Table Church. Anthony Parrott hails from Goshen, Indiana. Before moving to Washington, DC in 2020, he and his family pastored in northwest Iowa for 10 years. He received a Bachelors in Philosophy and Bible from Bethel University, Indiana, and a Masters of Divinity with an emphasis in Theology from Asbury Theological Seminary. He has the joy of being a husband to Emily and father to Audrey and Wesley. He’s a devoted fan of Star Wars and a connoisseur of fine sodas. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Some editorial notes:Sabrina made a comment about the bible being interpreted individually but she texted me and said that of course certain letters and books were written to an individual. Another note is that Sabrina had to leave a little bit earlier as David and I finished the conversation, so she's not in the last 10 minutes of the podcast. On today's show, we welcome half of the team of authors of the book "Learning Our Names: Asian American Christians on Identity, Relationships, and Vocation." and this episode is dear to my heart as I also live on the intersection of my Asian identity. Both Sabrina and David are genius in their field and I'm excited to share this episode with ya'll. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

CW - mentions of transphobia Today we are joined by Tim Whitaker from the New Evangelicals talking about how white people can navigate space and why he is considering himself an evangelical while at the same time being progressive in his faith expressions. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

On today's episode, we are graced by my dear friend Bridget Black, a Theologian and Spiritual Director based in CA. I hope you enjoy how we get deep into the weeds immediately as we discuss proverbs, disembodiment, and holding space for our experience as cocreators with God. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

CW - Brief mention of abuse. Tamice is the author of the transformative book "Faith Unleavened", an exploration of faith in a society that is dominated by whiteness. She's also the host of the popular podcast "Life After Leaven". In today's episode, she shares her own experiences and insights on navigating faith coming out of a white evangelical church as a black non-binary person. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

CW Has themes of sexual abuse. We're back with Season 3 and as our new tradition dictates, we have to kick the season off with my wife Kim! Today we're introducing the theme of this season and it's all about how theology has shaped our culture and our pet peeves around that. Thank you so much for listening and it would be great if you could follow me @michevanessen on all socials. Next week's episode is with Tamice Spencer Helms and will be out right here on Tuesday, June 6th. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

I’m pretty excited about this episode. My friend Kori, and former kickball team mate, also happens to have a PhD in Educational Psychology and every time I talk to her I am amazed by her wisdom. In this episode, we delve into research on belonging in STEM through a critical lens. The discussion reveals that the view of STEM as inherently objective, rational, and logical is a cultural assumption rooted in whiteness, which can exclude people of color and other ways of knowing, such as indigenous perspectives. By examining how systems of power impact context and belonging, particularly for Black and Latina students, we aim to challenge and deconstruct these prevailing perceptions in STEM.Find out more about Dr. Kori: https://education.indiana.edu/about/directory/profiles/nicolai-korinthia.html Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

I'm so happy to be back again! Sorry for a pause in publishing - a lot has been going on but I'm excited to share all the stories from guests that I have interviewed. On today's show we are joined by Zach Lambert and we get to talk about how to create safe spaces, how pastors have a leading role in creating movements for queer people and other marginalized folks, and the understand that that no one is free, until everyone is free. Follow Zach on socials (but you probably already do!) TwitterInstagramThreadsBluesky Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

CW - Mentions Sexual AbuseWelcome to the Season Finale!! Woohoo! In this episode, we talk with Tommy about how experiences like joys and trauma get to live inside our bodies. But we also talk about how bodies have been historically exploited and controlled. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

CW - Medical, anatomical descriptions. Hey all - I'm taking off in the month of April and in this episode Kim and I explain why. Looking forward to having many more conversations with ya'll in May! Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

In today's episode we are joined by Angie Hong, co-founder of Kinship Commons, who is sharing about her upbringing within a Korean-American context, how being othered has hurt her but eventually inspired her to do the work of connection, and how liturgy could fit in the bedroom. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Wow, we're back, everyone! I may have convinced my wife, Kim, to join me as a permanent co-host! For those who don't know her, Kim is a brilliant scholar and human being. She's got a background as a creative director for our UX design studio back in the day and in non-profit management. She received an MA in Education from VCU in Culturally Responsive Leadership. Today, we're surveying the upcoming season and briefly touching on the concept of the perception gap. First, from a theological perspective, and later we apply it to a modern concept. I'm so happy to be back with y'all! Follow Kim on IG @kim_van_essen Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Today Kim van Essen joins us as a guest - not only is she very talented and extremely insightful, she is also my wife. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe

Welcome to the Models We Live By podcast. In this first episode, I share my own story to give context to why knowing our mental models is so important. Get full access to Like Quiche at www.likequiche.com/subscribe