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Per My Last Promo
Author: Danielle Klemm
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Welcome to Per My Last Promo, the podcast where marketing pros, founders, and creators get real about their biggest wins—both the expected and the surprising. I’m your host, Danielle Klemm, a Conversion Rate & Funnel Optimization Strategist. Where each week we dive into the strategies and data-backed decisions behind milestone-smashing results. Whether you’re leading a wellness brand or growing your business as a course creator, you’ll leave with actionable insights you can use to grow your business, no matter the industry. This is your go-to for pulling back the curtain on marketing that drives results. Ready to dive into what really moves the needle? Let’s get into it!
Connect more with Danielle at danielleklemm.com or @danielleklemmm
Connect more with Danielle at danielleklemm.com or @danielleklemmm
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📥 Grab the Frontline Playbook: What's Sheri Moist testing next based on this campaign? Get the running doc of every guest's next moves → https://danielleklemm.kit.com/nextHow astrology-guided timing took a webinar conversion from 7% to 50%Sheri Moise, business astrologer and strategist, shares how she helped a client transform their webinar performance by aligning launch timing and messaging with astrological cycles. After a disappointing Wednesday webinar that converted at less than half the client's normal rate, Sheri adjusted the messaging for Saturday's webinar based on shifting moon and Mars energies, resulting in a 50% conversion rate.In this episode:- How the same webinar went from underperforming (half of normal conversions) to 50% conversion in just 3 days by adjusting messaging to match collective astrological energies- Why 18-month marketing cycles (North Node shifts) predict buyer behavior better than past launch data, including the shift from "course craze" (2020 Gemini) to "quick wins" (2024-25 Aries) to the current "wise buyer" era (2025-26 Pisces)- The upcoming August 2026 shift to Aquarius energy will favor "guide by your side" models over traditional guru-led courses, with buyers taking longer to decide but having lower refund rates- What Sheri's testing next: Launching her Success Planet system slowly with simple Google Docs and testing piece by piece rather than building everything upfront, aligned with the slower, steadier energy of 2026About Sheri Moise: Sheri is a business astrologer and strategist who combines corporate sales and marketing experience with astrological insights to help entrepreneurs optimize their launch timing and messaging. She specializes in using 18-month marketing cycles and planetary transits to guide everything from launch windows to daily email strategy, helping clients move from "hoping" to strategic confidence.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES:Want to know why YOUR funnel isn't converting like this? Take the 3-min quiz → https://www.danielleklemm.com/almostNeed a funnel expert to review your setup? Book a Funnel Assessment Call → https://www.danielleklemm.com/callMore from Danielle Klemm, Sales Funnel & Launch Conversion Optimization Expert:Website: https://danielleklemm.com/ Connect with Sheri Moise:Website: https://sherimoise.com/
📥 Grab the Frontline Playbook: What's Tony testing next based on this campaign? Get the running doc of every guest's next moves → https://danielleklemm.kit.com/nextTony from Intentional Spark shares how his client in the productivity space transformed their tripwire funnel from barely breaking even (70% return on ad spend) to 1.4x ROAS through strategic funnel optimization and creative testing. This case study reveals the critical levers that move the needle when running paid traffic to evergreen funnels.In this episode:How mobile-first optimization and tightening the lead magnet-to-tripwire connection increased conversions without changing the core offerWhy audience targeting is dead and your ad creative is now your targeting—plus how to use problem-only content (no CTA) to attract higher-intent leadsThe data tracking system that made optimization possible: a simple weekly spreadsheet pulling from Meta, Kit, and Google Analytics to track the full funnel from lead to upsell What they're testing next: Continuing to experiment with order bump pricing and positioning, plus scaling with avatar-specific creative that speaks to different audience segmentsAbout Tony: Tony runs Intentional Spark, an ads agency that focuses on conversion-driven campaigns across Meta and other platforms. Unlike agencies that only optimize for leads or engagement, Tony's team takes a holistic approach, working on funnel structure, offer optimization, and ad creative because they know ads only work as well as the entire system behind them.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES:Want to know why YOUR funnel isn't converting like this? Take the 3-min quiz → https://www.danielleklemm.com/almostMore from Danielle Klemm, Sales Funnel & Launch Conversion Optimization Expert:Website: https://danielleklemm.com/ Instagram: @danielleklemmmConnect with Tony:Website: intentionalspark.comFree Resource: Landing Page Blueprint (opt-in to get on their weekly newsletter + monthly workshops): https://www.intentionalspark.com/perfect-landing-page-blueprint
You've seen the hot takes: "Lead magnets are dead!" Usually followed by someone selling you a $27 tripwire instead.But if lead magnets are so dead, why are successful business owners still using them? Why are my clients still getting immediate sales from them across 15+ niches and price points from $47 to $5K?In this solo episode, I'm breaking down:Why the "lead magnets are dead" narrative is misleading (and what part of it is actually true)What changed between 2010-2022 vs. the discerning buyer era we're in nowThe real reason your lead magnet isn't converting (hint: it's not the format)Why a 20-page guide I created flopped, and what I learned from hiring an expert who steered me wrongHow lead magnets need to work in 2025+ to prime people for purchase instead of just collecting emailsThe strategic framework that's gotten clients sales within a month across different audience sizes, niches, and offer typesThis isn't about format (PDF vs. quiz vs. video). It's about understanding the evolved buyer journey and reverse-engineering from your offer's price point, your audience's skepticism level, and the gap between passive consumption and active purchasing.If you've spent hours creating lead magnets that sit unused, or if you've started to resent your freebie because nobody's booking calls, this episode will shift how you think about the entry point to your business.Resources mentioned:Free Quiz: The Freebie-to-Buy Gap Quiz (diagnose exactly where you're losing buyers) -https://danielleklemm.com/leadquiz/
📥 Grab the Frontline Playbook: What's Melissa testing next based on this campaign? Get the running doc of every guest's next moves → https://danielleklemm.kit.com/nextHow a $27 two-day workshop turned into a $400K launch (and why the $7 version flopped) with Melissa Litchfield of Litchfield Media Co.Melissa's crafting client tested the same 2-day workshop at $7, $17, and $27. The cheaper price brought in 4X more people, but converted at less than 1%. The $27 ticket? Only 454 sales, but a 6% conversion rate to their $6-8K program and $400K in total revenue. This episode breaks down what actually moves the needle when you're scaling with paid ads.In this episode:Why spending $146 to acquire a $27 ticket was the right move (and how quality beats quantity every time)The exact conversion rates from cold traffic → paid workshop → $6-8K high-ticket programWhy SLO funnels aren't "set and forget" and the truth about break-even that nobody talks aboutWhat Melissa's doubling down on next: going back to the $27 price point with an order bump after months of testingAbout Melissa Litchfield: Melissa is the founder of Litchfield Mediaco, where she's spent the last 10 years proving that small businesses can compete with big players, they just need the right marketing strategy. She specializes in conversion rate optimization and paid traffic for course creators and digital product sellers, and has been running ads for this crafting client since 2022.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES:Want to know why YOUR funnel isn't converting like this? Take the 3-min quiz Need a funnel expert to review your setup? Book a Funnel Assessment Call More from Danielle Klemm, Sales Funnel & Launch Conversion Optimization Expert:Website: https://danielleklemm.com/ Instagram: @danielleklemmmConnect with Melissa Litchfield:Instagram: @litchfieldmediacoAd Traffic School (Membership) → https://litchfieldmedia.org/ad-traffic-school Free Training: Get Your Business Portfolio Ad-Ready in 48 Hours → https://litchfieldmedia.org/roadworthy
Welcome to the new season Per My Last Promo, the marketing podcast where we skip the bios and go straight to the receipts.Every episode showcases a verified result or client win from the last year, plus the behind-the-scenes strategy you'd normally have to pay to access. This is frontline intel from people actually running campaigns right now.First episode drops in. February :)
If you're reading this before August 9th, get $150 off and a 1:1 sales page audit from me when you join Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp: https://www.danielleklemm.com/bootcamp
After weeks of building, editing, and second-guessing… the Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp is finally ready. The sales page is live. The course content is prepped. The launch is (mostly) mapped out.
So why does it feel so strange to be done?
In this Growth Diaries episode, I’m sharing what it actually took to get this program to the finish line and what I didn’t expect to feel once I got there. From rebuilding the offer structure, to the pressure of making your own sales page the example, to the emotional weight of launching something that deeply matters…
This episode is part celebration, part reflection, and part pep talk for anyone who’s ever felt stuck in the middle of bringing their work into the world.
We’ll talk about:
Why “done” doesn’t always feel done
The pressure of selling the thing that sells sales pages
Navigating the void before a launch (yes, even with a waitlist)
The tradeoffs no one talks about when building something that matters
If you’ve ever second-guessed your own work even while believing in it deeply… this one’s for you.
🎧 Listen now and peek behind the curtain of this very real launch season.
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Join the Bootcamp Waitlist Here ($100 off + bonus ends July 28)
In this storytime episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a real client scenario from when I ran a funnel and ads agency where two nearly identical programs (let’s say bookkeeping for business owners) launched to the same exact audience using the same exact ad targeting.
One offer took off. The other… flatlined. Here’s the thing: it wasn’t the price.
It wasn’t the visuals or sales page length or ad budget. Inside, I’m breaking down:
Why “you’re tired” messaging isn’t enough anymore
The difference between talking at your buyer vs. building trust
How early buyers vs. seasoned buyers require completely different angles
What bigger names like Amy Porterfield and Alex Hormozi can get away with but you can’t
What happened when one client invested in a funnel audit and re-angled her copy using real buyer data (and what happened when the other didn’t)
If you’ve been tweaking emails, adding more posts, or throwing money at ads without better results… this episode might be your wake-up call.
Links Mentioned in This Episode:
💻 Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp: My 2-week sprint to help you identify and fix the sections of your sales page that are quietly stalling conversions—without rewriting the whole thing.
🔍 Done-For-You Sales Page Rebuilds: Get expert-level sales page copy, layout, and custom graphics grounded in buyer psychology. Ideal for launches and funnels that need to convert on cold traffic.
🛠️ Funnel Strategy + Audit Services: For business owners who want to uncover the invisible gaps in their messaging, positioning, and conversion journey.
If you enjoyed this breakdown, screenshot and tag me or DM me your aha moment on Instagram @danielleklemmm
Let’s stop guessing, and start converting.
Special Edition: Client Growth Diaries with Nina, She Knows SEO
Nina Clapperton is one of those business owners who has lived enough lives both on and offline that she can do anything with enough spite (her words, not mine - Check out her episode on the podcast for that story)
She has launched dozens of offers, all at different price points with relatively great success from her connection with her engaged audience.
Read the full case study with before & after screenshots, click here.
Join the Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp, click here.
In this Growth Diary entry, I’m pulling back the curtain on what no one tells you about writing copy for the offer you care most about. For me it's Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp.
I share the very real (and slightly unhinged) behind-the-scenes of spending 10+ hours reworking a sales page I technically “finished” weeks ago—and why that’s not a red flag, it’s a love letter.
You’ll hear what happens when you’re building in public and trying to get it right the first time, how I’m balancing hope with honesty in a not-so-sexy offer, and the hard truth: the more you care, the harder it is to write clearly.
Read Substack Article on Growth Diary Entry #2, click here.
Join the Fix My Sales Page Waitlist, click here.
Mini Summer Series! In this first Growth Diary entry, I share why I walked away from my original six-module plan for Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp, how I’m restructuring it to feel more supportive for me and my students, and what I learned about building in public without burning out.
You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes of shifting to a 4-part workshop format, why “Optimize in an Hour” replaced the original 7-day fix plan, and how I’m designing this offer to match both buyer psychology and my Generator energy.
Full Article Summary of the Growth Diary Entry #1, click here.
Join the Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp waitlist, click here.
Curious about the best length for sales pages? In this episode, we dive into the first decision you have to do when creating a sales page -- deciding the sales page length.
Discover the pros and cons of longform and short sales pages, and find out which one converts best in 2025.
Whether you’re creating a new sales page or optimizing an existing one, understanding the ideal length can significantly impact your conversion rates. Learn the key differences, benefits, and best practices for both longform and short sales pages. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a clear understanding of which format suits your business needs and how to implement it effectively.
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
What if you could grow your email list by nearly 3x without spending a dime on ads?
Rebecca of Three Groves Marketing, Marketing Measurement & Meta Ads Strategist, shares how she leveraged collaborations, from bundles to summits, to build her list, increase engagement, and drive long-term results.
Connect with Rebecca:
Instagram | Website
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Are you wondering if webinars are a thing of the past and what online course sales strategy will work best for you without the hassle of calls or lengthy DMs? You're in the right place!
In this episode will be guiding you through choosing the right sales vehicle for your program. This isn't about doing "all the things" but understanding which vehicle aligns with you, your audience, and the sales for your program.
We'll explore various sales vehicles, from webinars and video series to email sequences, and I'll share case study examples and prompts to help you decide which is best for your unique situation. Remember, it's not about the amount of information you can throw at your audience but about creating an experience that leads them to make an informed decision.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Your emails should do more than deliver discounts.
Shlesha Pandey, founder of Banyan Agency, dives into how segmentation, empathy, and strategic flows can turn email marketing into your business’s biggest revenue driver.
Connect with Shlesha:
Instagram | Website
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Unlock the secrets to creating high-converting landing pages that seamlessly connect and prime your audience for immediate action in this game-changing episode.
Join me as I reveal the four often overlooked elements of landing pages that can significantly increase your conversions, but are unfortunately placed low on the totem pole.
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Creating content without strategy is like building a house on sand.
Nina Clapperton of She Knows SEO joins me to share her proven blog growth framework, from zero-volume keywords to content silos, and why your blog deserves more than ‘good enough.’
Connect with Nina:
Instagram | Website
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Looking for lead magnets that actually convert?
In this episode, I’ll share 7 powerful lead magnet ideas that will get leads ready to buy, specifically designed for coaches. Whether you’re a business coach, wellness coach, or life coach, these lead magnet strategies will help you attract and nurture leads who are eager to invest in your services.
Discover how to create lead magnets that not only generate leads but also prepare them to become paying clients. By the end of this episode, you’ll know the 7 powerful lead magnet ideas that get leads ready to buy and how to implement them for your business.
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Your website isn’t just an online placeholder—it’s the foundation of your marketing strategy.
Amber of Maevan Marketing,SEO Expert & Brand Designer, shares how to use Google SEO to turn your website into a business asset, attract your dream audience, and create long-term growth.
Connect with Amber:
Grab her Free Guide, 6 Tools You Need to Start SEO!
Instagram | Website
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin
Discover the hidden gem of your sales page that can make or break your conversions in this eye-opening episode. While most people focus on the headline and testimonials, I'll reveal the most overlooked and underutilized section that can instantly boost your sales without changing anything else about your offer or sales experience.
Dive into the power of the "What You Get" section, the summary of the container you're selling, which often receives the least attention. Learn how this section acts as the book's cover and holds the key to getting your prospects more invested in their 3D vision, addressing their hesitations, and calming objections in a specific and impactful way.
Join me as I share client case studies, practical tips, and a step-by-step approach to optimize this crucial section of your sales page, resulting in increased conversions and revenue.
Want help? Check out this mini workshop 1-Section Sales Page Upgrade
Resources Mentioned:
Download the Checkout Page Optimization Template to help reduce abandoned carts and boost conversions.
Learn more about optimizing your lead magnet and traffic strategies by visiting danielleklemm.com.
Connect with host Danielle Klemm at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram | Youtube | Linkedin




