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Read Between the Wines Podcast is not really a podcast, it's a repository of stories from the wine world. It is focused on the narratives behind the winemakers rather than wine scoring.

Founded and hosted by Vino-enthusiast Pierre Ferland, it offers a different and refreshing concept in wine exploration. Each episode offers a unique perspective on vineyard's tales, much like each vintage brings its own profile and personality to a blend. Some conversations will delve into winemaking techniques, while others will explore initiatives to preserve biodiversity and find solutions to combat climate change.

From a consumer perspective, we are intrigued by how wine scoring has dominated the industry, leaving many enthusiasts perplexed by its intricacies yet still relying on a solitary number for their selections. We understand and respect the fact that a generous score can help move a few bottles and we won't hold it against any wineries, but from a vintner and a winemaker perspective, we pose a pivotal question: what legacy do you wish to imprint upon your clientele? A numerical rating, or the compelling tale of your craft? Think about it. What score would you give to the "Mona Lisa" or "The Starry Night" from Van Gogh? About "Composition 8" from Kandinsky or "The Creation of Adam" by Michelangelo. It's very subjective indeed and so is Pinot Noir from Burgundy, Cabernet Sauvignon from Australia and Riesling from Germany.
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In this episode of Read Between the Wines, we return to the heart of Tuscany to meet Leonardo Bellaccini, the legendary oenologist of San Felice. With over 40 years at the estate, Bellaccini shares how tradition and innovation work hand in hand to shape some of Italy's most iconic wines. We explore the story behind Vigorello, the first Super Tuscan from Chianti Classico, and the revival of Pugnitello, a once-forgotten grape now central to San Felice's identity. Bellaccini also opens up about the estate's commitment to sustainability, including regenerative viticulture and adapting to climate change without irrigation. This conversation goes beyond winemaking—it's about preserving culture, respecting the land, and understanding wine as more than just a drink. As Bellaccini says, "Wine makes your soul richer." Whether you're a Tuscan wine lover or simply curious about what makes great wine possible, this episode is a thoughtful and inspiring listen.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines   
In this episode of Read Between the Wines, we explore a question that rarely gets asked: why has the conversation around wine and alcohol changed so dramatically in recent years? For centuries, wine was simply part of life — part of the table, part of culture, part of how people gathered and shared moments together. Today, however, headlines increasingly frame alcohol through a very different lens. To understand what's happening, host Pierre Ferland sits down with award-winning journalist and Drinks Insider founder Felicity Carter, one of the most respected investigative voices covering alcohol policy and the global drinks industry. Drawing on decades of reporting, Felicity explains how alcohol debates are shaped not only by science, but also by media narratives, cultural shifts, advocacy networks, and political incentives. But beyond policy and statistics lies a deeper question: what role does wine play in human connection, pleasure, and everyday life? A thoughtful and provocative conversation about science, storytelling, and the future of wine culture. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines
Sangiovese does not just reveal terroir. It reveals the winemaker. In Episode 86 of Read Between the Wines, Pierre Ferland sits down with Federico Cerelli, head winemaker at Castello di Gabbiano, one of Chianti Classico's most historic estates, to unpack what freshness, drinkability, and "modern classicism" really mean in Tuscany today. From Federico's first move at Gabbiano in 2011 (taste the past, then rebuild the future) to a masterclass on three distinct vineyard zones, you will hear how soil, wind, and microclimate shape Sangiovese into radically different personalities, from bold and structured to mineral and quietly elegant. They dive into oak without the theatre: fewer barriques, more large casks, and a rare local oak experiment that rewinds history without becoming nostalgic. Add climate chaos, the Chianti vs Chianti Classico misconception, and the "drink less, drink better" shift, and you have an episode built for wine lovers who want truth, not gloss. Chianti Classico. Tuscany. Sangiovese. No nonsense.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines  
E85 - VIK Wine, Chile

E85 - VIK Wine, Chile

2026-02-2301:02:47

In Episode 85, Pierre Ferland sits down with Cristián Vallejo, the winemaker who helped build Viña VIK in Chile under the leadership of owner Alexander Vik, starting from absolute zero. No vineyards. No cellar. Just 4,500 hectares of wild land in the Millahue Valley and an ambition that practically screamed, "We are not here to make normal wine." This is a deep dive into terroir precision and controlled madness: micro valleys, hundreds of parcels, high density planting, and a pivotal moment Vallejo calls the vineyard's personality. We explore circular winemaking, wild yeast, amphora ageing, and why VIK keeps nearly 90 percent of the estate untouched. Then, in our bonus coverage available exclusively on our website, the conversation becomes even more compelling as we dive into the unique Stone VIK project, where amphoras are aged in a forest, aligned with solstice, full moons, geology, vibration, and time. It is essentially Stonehenge meets Grand Cru wine. We also uncover the very human moment Cristián Vallejo learns that VIK has achieved 100 points while standing alone in Atlanta airport. If you like your wine talk equal parts craft, culture, and a touch of spirituality, this Read Between the Wines episode is for you.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines  
Episode 84 takes us to San Leonardo Family Estate, one of Trentino's most iconic names, set in the shadow of the Dolomites and guided by the Guerrieri Gonzaga family. Pierre Ferland sits down with the charismatic Anselmo Guerrieri Gonzaga for a lively, story driven conversation that moves from history to terroir, and from bottle ageing to the future of wine itself. Why do some call San Leonardo "Bordeaux with Alpine poise"? How does a narrow valley, fewer hours of direct sunlight, and the Ora wind from Lake Garda shape freshness, lower alcohol, and elegance? We unpack the estate's philosophy, the origins of their flagship San Leonardo wine, and the underrated star of the cellar: Carménère, often mistaken for Cabernet Franc and wildly different here than in Chile. We also dive into the craft side: concrete vats, restrained oak, extraction choices, and what makes Terre such a joy to drink. Then, in the bonus episode, we go deeper into sustainability, Equalitas, biodiversity, pergola versus Guyot, climate change planning, and yes, the famous San Leonardo garden.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines
Is wine really as dangerous as headlines claim? In Episode 83 of Read Between the Wines, our host Pierre Ferland sits down with Dr Laura Catena, physician and fourth generation vintner behind In Defense of Wine.  Together they unpack the growing war on wine, the World Health Organization messaging, and the role of Movendi International in pushing a zero nuance narrative. Dr Catena explains what the science actually says about moderate drinking, the J curve, and why age and drinking pattern matter. We dig into The Lancet Global Burden of Disease debate, NASEM versus ICCPUD, and the difference between absolute and relative risk, including breast cancer discussions. You will also hear why Mediterranean style wine with food, social connection, and context cannot be reduced to a single molecule. If you care about wine culture, public health, and honest data, this episode is for you. For fans of evidence, terroir, and real life.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines  
In this episode of Read Between the Wines, Pierre sits down with Andrea Kaiser, winemaker and daughter of the late Karl J. Kaiser, co-founder of Inniskillin and one of the two pioneers who built modern Canadian winemaking with vinifera grapes. Andrea grew up among the vines in Niagara, watching her father measure sugars with a refractometer, tasting early batches, and debating acidity, sweetness and oak at the family table. But it wasn't until Inniskillin's 50th anniversary and her father's celebration of life that she truly understood the scale of his impact — and decided to continue the legacy in her own way with Drea's Wine Co. Pierre and Andrea explore her path from the family's restaurant to Reif Estate Winery, and finally to launching her own small-batch label focused on Sauvignon Blanc, Cabernet Franc, and Dornfelder. She explains why Niagara on the Lake's micro climate — the lake, the Niagara River, the escarpment — allows her to grow varieties that surprise many cool-climate drinkers. The conversation also touches on palate evolution, Canadian wine identity, single-vineyard philosophy, and what it felt like to pour her first Sauvignon Blanc for international critics including Jancis Robinson and Tony Aspler. A warm, insightful episode honouring a Canadian wine legacy — and the next chapter written by Drea herself.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines 
Niagara on the Lake is raising the bar again. In this episode of Read Between the Wines, Pierre catches up with Adam Pearce, winemaker at Stone Eagle Winery and the talent behind the celebrated wines of Two Sisters in Ontario's Niagara region. Four years after their first conversation during the pandemic, Adam returns with big news. The once cult Stone Eagle label has grown into a full winery on Highway 55, with its own estate vineyards, focused portfolio and on site restaurant, The Nest. Together, Pierre and Adam explore what it really takes to build age worthy Canadian wines that reward patience, not just instant gratification. They dig into the details behind Stone Eagle's Cabernet Franc, the Eagle Eye Sauvignon Blanc Semillon, the Lush and Blanc de Franc sparkling wines, and why balance, structure and time remain the real luxuries in a small market like Canada. Adam also shares candid thoughts on climate change, extreme vintages, replanting difficult vineyards, and the constant tension between consumer demand, portfolio focus and winemaker curiosity. The conversation goes beyond the cellar. Pierre and Adam discuss the war on wine, the rise of low and no alcohol products, public health narratives, and why responsible enjoyment, food, place and human connection still sit at the heart of true wine culture. If you love Niagara, Cabernet Franc, serious Chardonnay and ambitious Canadian reds, this episode is for you.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines 
In this episode of Read Between the Wines, we welcome Dan Buettner—National Geographic explorer, Emmy Award-winning producer, and New York Times best-selling author. Dan is the visionary behind the Blue Zones, regions from Okinawa to Sardinia and Costa Rica where people regularly live into their 90s and 100s in remarkable health. We explore the secrets of longevity: plant-based diets, strong communities, daily movement, and storytelling that makes science memorable. Dan shares insights from his Netflix documentary Live to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones and his new book The Blue Zones Kitchen: One Pot Meals. And yes—wine lovers will discover why moderate red wine is central to Blue Zone cultures, enjoyed daily as part of meals, joy, and connection. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines 
Few names in Burgundy command as much admiration as Domaine Faiveley. Founded in 1825 and now led by seventh-generation Erwan Faiveley, the estate has become a benchmark of excellence for Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. From its historic home in Nuits-Saint-Georges to its grands crus across the Côte de Nuits and Côte de Beaune, Faiveley represents the very soul of Burgundy.  In this episode, Erwan reflects on nearly two centuries of family stewardship, exploring how Domaine Faiveley continues to balance tradition with innovation in an ever-changing world. We discuss the artistry of vineyard management, the lessons of history, and the evolving challenges of climate and culture that shape Burgundy today. Listeners will gain insight into some of Burgundy's most iconic vineyards, from Corton to Bâtard-Montrachet, and the philosophy that underpins wines celebrated worldwide for their finesse, structure, and longevity. This conversation is more than an interview—it is an extraordinary opportunity to hear directly from one of Burgundy's most prestigious Domaine, a family whose legacy defines the timeless pursuit of great wine.    For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines 
For Episode 77 of Read Between the Wines, we sit down with Nicola Bates, CEO of Wine GB, to explore the exciting momentum behind English and Welsh wines. From climate adaptation to international acclaim, the British wine scene is transforming at remarkable speed—and Nicola is at the forefront of it all. We discuss Wine GB's bold new three-year strategy, the importance of sustainability through the SWGB certification, and how the organisation is championing diversity, education, and tourism across the sector. Nicola shares her personal connection to wine, her favourite grape varieties, and the ambitious initiatives aimed at supporting both new and established producers. Whether you're a winemaker, a wine lover, or simply curious about why Britain is fast becoming one of the world's most dynamic wine regions, this conversation is essential listening. Grab a glass, settle in—and get ready to be inspired by the future of wine, British-style.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines   
For Episode 76 of Read Between the Wines, we head to Spain with the dynamic Nathalie Bonhomme, the French-Canadian force behind Les Vins Bonhomme. From her early days in Valencia to becoming a global wine brand, Nathalie shares her remarkable journey, blending bold branding with serious winemaking. We explore her partnerships with top Spanish producers, her deep connection to the Canadian market, and her foray into olive oil. It's a story about passion, persistence, and creating wines that truly resonate—across Sweden, Japan, Canada, and beyond. An inspiring and flavour-packed conversation not to be missed.   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines 
For episode 75 of Read Between the Wines, we head to the northern reaches of the Médoc to explore an iconic place in Saint-Estèphe—Château Tour des Termes. General Manager Julien Brustis joins us for a refreshingly candid conversation about shaking the dust off Bordeaux tradition without losing its soul. From climate-savvy vineyard replanting to the launch of a white wine (yes, in Saint-Estèphe!), Julien walks us through the estate's bold new chapter under the O'Connor family's stewardship. We talk terroir, tannins, and why their Merlot-heavy blend is aging like a fine… well, Merlot. He also shares how biodiversity, regenerative viticulture, and a carbon-neutral winery by 2026 aren't just noble goals—they're part of the business plan. We discuss the art of modern Bordeaux: wines that can charm your palate after five years, not just after your retirement. And in true Tour des Termes fashion, Julien explains how the Château is becoming more open, more welcoming, and yes—more fun. Accessible yet age-worthy, fresh yet full of soul—Tour des Termes might just be the Saint-Estèphe you didn't know you needed. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines   
For Episode 73, we head down under—and no, we're not playing "Land Down Under" on repeat, but we are bringing you a story as catchy as that classic tune. We're off to Barossa, Australia's legendary wine region, where old vines, bold Shiraz, and deep community roots come together in a glass. Our guest, James Lindner from Langmeil Winery, isn't just making wine—he's preserving living history. From relocating 140-year-old vines (yes, literally moving them) to championing the Barossa Old Vine Charter, James shares stories that prove wine is more than a drink; it's memory, place, and identity bottled up. We talk soil, sustainability, storytelling, and what it means to balance tradition with modern winemaking. And trust us: once you hear James, you'll want to grab a bottle of Barossa Shiraz and toast to the vines that just keep giving. Cheers to the land of plenty—and to never drinking another boring wine again. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines       
For Episode 72, host Pierre Ferland sits down with Dr. Ignacio Sánchez Recarte, Secretary General of the Comité Européen des Entreprises Vins (CEEV), and a key voice behind VitæVino—a grassroots campaign defending wine culture and the idea that a glass of wine can be more than just alcohol in a fancy glass. Together, they uncork a lively and important conversation about what many are calling the "war on wine." They break down the shaky science behind studies like the 2018 Lancet report, the confusing way risk statistics are used, and the growing trend of lumping wine in with truly harmful substances like asbestos and radiation. Yes, that's actually happening. Dr. Sánchez Recarte explains why wine should be seen as a cultural and agricultural product—something rooted in tradition, community, and moderation. The episode dives into topics like gut health, the J-curve, changing public policies, media messaging, and why we need a more balanced, fact-based approach to the conversation around wine and health. Whether you're in the wine trade, a fan of good food and drink, or just curious about what's behind the headlines, this episode will give you plenty to think—and maybe drink—about. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines   
In this episode, we swap vineyards for velvety service as we sit down with New Zealand's only Master Sommelier, Cameron Douglas. From decoding restaurant wine lists to mastering food and wine pairings (yes, there's a "cashew test"), Cameron shares a lifetime of expertise in hospitality, sensory training, and beverage curation. We tackle misconceptions about sommeliers, the changing face of wine consumption, and why palate disruption is key to understanding flavour. It's an insightful, spirited masterclass you won't want to miss. This is just the beginning. Visit readbetweenthewinespodcast.com for bonus material  of exclusive content with Cameron—available only on our website. You'll find deeper reflections on wine culture, strategies for expanding global wine markets, and more of Cameron's unmatched wisdom.    For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines   
For Episode 70, we return to South Africa for the first time in almost four years, and we do so in grand fashion—by visiting Jordan Wines Estate in Stellenbosch. Owned by husband-and-wife duo Kathy and Gary Jordan, this estate is a benchmark of excellence, seamlessly blending tradition, science, and sustainability in winemaking. In this episode, we explore Jordan's Timepiece Range, a tribute to their heritage and old vines, and discuss how Gary's background in geology has shaped their vineyard's unique terroir. Kathy shares insights on economics in wine marketing, while Gary reveals their bold approach to combat climate change, including pioneering plantings of Assyrtiko, Mencía, and Xinomavro. We also dive into winemaking as an art versus a science, the evolution of consumer preferences, and the challenges South African vintners face today—from climate adaptation to international trade barriers. Plus, an exclusive look at their UK project, Mousehall Country Estate, where they are crafting world-class still wines in England. An inspiring conversation with two visionaries shaping the future of wine. Don't miss it!   For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines       
For Episode 69, we're, of course, staying in the world of wine, but we're casting a wider net. What happens when a wine-loving sommelier finds herself stuck at home during a global pandemic? If you're Sanna Yamit Viitaoja-Malmberg, you don't just pass the time with jigsaw puzzles—you turn them into a global business. In this episode, we uncork the fascinating story behind Water & Wines, the wine-themed puzzle company that took the world by storm. What started as a way to stay mentally engaged while recovering from severe COVID soon became a runaway success, with thousands of puzzles flying off the shelves in just weeks. Yamit takes us through the journey—from an idea sketched on a kitchen table to a brand now selling in over 40 countries. We also delve into why Water & Wines puzzles feel so different (spoiler: obsessive attention to detail), the importance of play in wine education, and how sustainability is at the heart of their business. Oh, and if you've ever wondered whether Italy or France reigns supreme in the puzzle world, we've got the answer. So, pour yourself a glass, grab a puzzle piece (or two), and join us for a delightful conversation that proves wine and playfulness are the perfect match.     For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web:  https://readbetweenthewines.com  Follow us on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia  Connect with us on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines     
For Episode 68, we pop the cork on a sparkling conversation with Wendy Outhwaite, co-founder of Ambriel, an English sparkling wine producer with a serious commitment to quality—and a playful side to match. Nestled in the rolling hills of West Sussex, Ambriel crafts wines with a "palate, not wallet" approach, letting patience and precision take the lead (some bottles rest on lees for over six years before they make their grand debut). Wendy takes us behind the scenes of Ambriel's journey—from a five-year quest to find the perfect vineyard to embracing greensand terroir that's as rare as it is remarkable. We chat about hand-picking, blind blending, and why the Outhwaites refuse to let their wines leave the estate until they're truly ready. And of course, we dive into Ambriel's spirited branding—think corks stamped with 'Huzzah!' and a name that gives a nod to angels, ambrosia, and a certain quip from Pope Gregory. With Wendy's razor-sharp wit and infectious passion, this episode is a proper toast to English fizz. So grab a glass, settle in, and let's raise a hearty Huzzah! to the future of British bubbles. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com   Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines     
For Episode 67, get ready to uncork a truly special episode of Read Between the Wines! Host Pierre Ferland sits down with the charming and insightful Santiago Marone Cinzano of Col d'Orcia, a 10th-generation winemaker with a story as rich and complex as the Brunello di Montalcino his family has perfected for centuries. Santiago spills the secrets of transforming Col d'Orcia into Tuscany's largest organic winery—a "biological oasis" where tradition meets innovation. From their meticulous organic practices to the unique Val d'Orcia terroir, this episode dives deep into what makes Col d'Orcia a beacon of sustainability and quality. But here's the twist: patience isn't just a virtue—it's practically a religion at Col d'Orcia. Santiago reveals La Filosofia della Pazienza (the philosophy of patience), a mindset that turns waiting into an art form, proving that the best things in life—like a perfectly aged Brunello—are worth the wait. Whether you're a Brunello aficionado or simply love a great story, this episode is an absolute treat. Tune in and let Santiago's passion for wine inspire your next pour! Finally, we offer bonus material - over 30 minutes of conversation with Santiago exclusively on our website. For more information about our Podcast, visit us on the web: https://readbetweenthewines.com   Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweenthewinesmedia   Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/read-between-the-wines     
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