Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

Is the West sleepwalking into its own destruction? In this wild episode Jillian sits down with national security expert Brigitte Gabriel to expose the reality behind the headlines. We break down the "Muslim Brotherhood Project"—a documented 100-year plan to infiltrate Western institutions from within—and why the current chaos in the Europe is just the beginning. What We Cover: Will The Gaza 20 Point Peace Plan Hold The Head of the Snake: Brigitte’s prediction for the inevitable clash with Iran. The Infiltration: How radical ideologies are exploiting Western laws to dismantle democracy. Survival Guide: Steps we must take now to protect national security. About the Guest: Brigitte Gabriel is a terrorism expert, New York Times bestselling author (Because They Hate), and the founder of ACT for America. A survivor of the Lebanese Civil War, she spent seven years living in a bomb shelter under assault by radical Islamic militants before immigrating to the United States. Today, she is one of the world’s leading voices on global Islamic terrorism and national security. 00:00 - Intro: The Threat from Within 01:16 - SURVIVING ISLAM 08:30 - WHY ARABS WON’T HARBOR PALESTINIANS 13:30 - MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PLAN EXPOSED 24:58 - PEACEFUL ISLAM WARNS AGAINST RADICAL ISLAM 34:21 - “USEFUL IDIOTS” Why White Liberals Defend Regimes That Hate Them 38:29 - 9/11 WAKE UP CALL 45:53 - IRANIAN REGIME MUST FALL 52:59 - GAZA PEACE DEAL IS DOOMED? 55:06 - ISLAM The "Revenge" Honor Code 01:01:50 - TAKE ACTION Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hollywood preaches compassion — then protects predators. Jillian sits down with PragerU’s Xaviaer DuRousseau to expose elite hypocrisy, celebrity double standards, and the ideological collapse reshaping America. We cover: • Epstein’s Cabal — why elites keep shielding predators like Jeffrey Epstein, Diddy, Jay-Z, and Chrissy Teigen while lecturing the public on morality • Celebrity hypocrisy — Bad Bunny cashing a Super Bowl paycheck after claiming he’d stop performing in the U.S., Billie Eilish’s “stolen land” virtue signaling, and the disturbing deleted tweets cancel culture forgot • White liberal meltdown — racial slurs aimed at Black ICE agents, vigilante tactics, and political candidates openly encouraging gangs to confront federal law enforcement • “Mamdani Madness” & NYC decline — how Zohran Mamdani represents a broader collapse: radical optics, criminals being courted, trash barriers rising, taxpayer dollars flowing to undocumented immigrants — plus outrage over tapping a former Al-Qaeda–linked 9/11 defense attorney to help run legal affairs in New York • Taqiyya explained — how ideological deception operates in modern politics and activism • Culture-war flashpoints — trans ideology, the SAVE Act, voter ID suddenly labeled “racist,” and the broken social contract • Adrenochrome & elite conspiracies — separating internet myth from real questions about power, corruption, and institutional rot CHAPTERS 0:00 - Intro & The "Monkey" Video Scandal 03:52 - Gavin Newsom & The Destruction of California 07:25 - Voter ID Is Racist? 11:58 - THE EVIL ESPTEIN CABAL 13:28 - Jillian’s Diddy Story 17:45 - Adrenochrome, Rituals & "Bacha Bazi" 24:39 - Bizarre Esptein Paintings 33:04 - Hillary Clinton Praising Trump? 37:45 - Epstein & Clintons 45:22 - Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl Hypocrisy 47:10 - Billie Eilish & Immigration Ignorance 50:49 - Chrissy Teigen Tweets 51:20 - Nicki Minaj vs Jay Z 1:04:44 - Trans Ideology & The Broken Contract 1:15:18 - GANGS vs. ICE & Vigilante Roadblocks 1:24:40 - The "White Savior" Trap 1:32:57 - "Mamdani Madness" & The Fall of NYC 1:40:00 - Radical Islam & Western Values Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Letting millions pour into the country illegally wasn’t compassion—it was reckless negligence. Communities are breaking, public resources are drained, and the rule of law is collapsing. Borders exist for a reason, and rules are meant to be followed; ignoring them cheats those who played by the rules and rewards lawlessness. Hard-working Americans support deportations because accountability isn’t optional—it’s essential. Politicians who cheer on open borders and attack ICE aren’t defending anyone—they’re chasing power, votes, and ideological headlines while the country pays the price. Jillian Michaels exposes the full-scale fallout of mass illegal immigration and the chaos it has left behind. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is America being pulled apart on purpose? Jillian Michaels sits down with wildly popular political pundit and radio host Jesse Kelly for a brutally honest look at the current state of the country. From the shocking reports of medical professionals refusing care to political opponents to the "communist" tactics infiltrating American institutions, the reality of the border crisis, and the terrifying concept of "struggle sessions" making their way into modern society, Jesse outlines exactly how and why civilized society is descending into chaos.   Jesse also breaks down the 2030 apportionment map and explains the strategic demographic shifts that are changing the political landscape forever. In this episode: The Cultural Divide: Why politics has become a "blood sport" and how it impacts day-to-day life, from flying on airplanes to doctors' visits. "Struggle Sessions": Jesse explains the historical communist roots behind modern public shaming and cancel culture. The "Normie" Problem: Why ignoring politics is no longer an option if you want to protect your freedom. Immigration & The Census: A hard look at the "Apportionment Map," the 2030 Census, and allegations of gaming the electoral college through open borders. Corruption in Government: How taxpayer money is being funneled to NGOs and political allies to undermine the United States Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Medicare and Medicaid fraud. California healthcare corruption. Constitutional crisis. California is now being called the epicenter of Medicare and Medicaid fraud, with billions of taxpayer dollars allegedly lost to fake patients, phantom billing, and sham hospice operations. In this full podcast episode, Dr. Mehmet Oz, Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services explains why Los Angeles has become ground zero for healthcare fraud and how these schemes drain public healthcare programs meant to serve real patients. Dr. Oz alleges that organized fraud networks are exploiting Medicare and Medicaid at massive scale. Gavin Newsom denies the claims, accusing Oz of exaggeration and discrimination — escalating the conflict into a political and legal firestorm. This episode then turns to a second crisis: federal law vs state and city governments. Across blue cities, police departments are ordered to monitor and film ICE agents, federal officers are barred from city property, and taxpayer funds are used to oppose federal immigration enforcement. Is this lawful protest — or obstruction of federal authority? Constitutional attorney Josh Hammer breaks down:     •    The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution     •    When state resistance becomes unconstitutional     •    The legal implications of **Don Lemon arrest     •    What legal remedies exist to restore order without destabilizing the country This episode covers Medicare fraud, Medicaid abuse, California corruption, federal vs state power, ICE enforcement, constitutional law, and government overreach — with facts, legal analysis, and real consequences. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do new UAP sightings mean alien contact is imminent? Lue Elizondo is a former U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent and a former senior intelligence officer for the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. With decades of experience in national security, he conducted and supervised clandestine operations worldwide, specializing in counterterrorism, espionage, and advanced aerospace threats. He is best known for his role as the former head of the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), where he investigated unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and pushed for greater transparency on non-human intelligence (NHI). In this show, Elizondo reveals the existence of a decades-long “Legacy Program”—a covert operation investigating unidentified aerial phenomena that operated without congressional oversight for more than 80 years. This isn’t about blurry lights in the sky. It’s about crash retrievals, exotic materials, and physical craft allegedly in U.S. possession dating back to Roswell and beyond, quietly studied by the military-industrial complex while the public was fed weather balloon and swamp gas cover stories. He describes the Cold War you never learned about—not just a race to the moon, but a race to reverse-engineer technology so advanced it makes nuclear weapons look primitive. Then comes the phrase that changed everything: “non-human biologics.” The conversation shifted from metal to flesh. Not drones—occupants. Craft that were piloted. Pilots that didn’t survive. The science is even more unsettling. These UAPs demonstrate capabilities that defy known physics: instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic speed without sonic booms, and right-angle turns that would liquefy a human body. The implication? They may not be “traveling” at all—but warping space-time itself, moving inside a gravitational bubble. And what if they aren’t coming from far away? Elizondo weighs theories that these entities may be interdimensional, not extraterrestrial—originating not light-years away, but right here, just beyond our perceptual bandwidth. While we smash particles at CERN to glimpse the fabric of reality, these craft appear to move through it. From the Tic Tac incident, to swarms over Langley Air Force Base, to a recent triangle-shaped craft sighting over Area 51, the phenomenon is becoming more visible, more aggressive, and harder to dismiss. Elizondo’s message—echoed in the title of his book, Imminent—is clear: the clock is ticking. If contact is coming, the real question isn’t whether we’re ready technologically—but whether we’re ready socially, psychologically, and spiritually. A relationship with a non-human intelligence wouldn’t mean trade agreements. Elizondo explains what it could mean for a fundamental rewrite of physics, religion, power, and humanity’s place in the universe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we sit down with Virginia Delegate and former Green Beret Nick Freitas to discuss the rapidly shifting geopolitical landscape and domestic unrest. We start by analyzing the recent ICE shooting incident in Minneapolis and what it reveals about the current state of law enforcement and border security. Nick then shifts focus to the global stage, offering his expertise on the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos and the "globalist" agenda. We also dig into the strategic conversations surrounding the U.S. acquisition of Greenland and the rising calls for regime change in Iran. Is the world on the brink of a major power shift? Topics Covered: The Minneapolis ICE Shooting: details on the incident and the political fallout. Iran on the Brink: The reality of regime change and U.S. involvement. The Davos Agenda: Inside the World Economic Forum and the future of globalism. Greenland Strategy: Why this territory is becoming a massive geopolitical asset. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jillian Michaels flies solo—and holds nothing back. In this explosive episode, Jillian dismantles the media narrative surrounding the tragic shooting of Renee Goode by ICE officer Jonathan Ross. While politicians and pundits whip the public into tribal hysteria—branding people as “villains” and “terrorists”—Jillian cuts through the noise to expose the real forces fueling the violence. This isn’t incompetence. It’s strategy. A cynical game of political chess where human lives are expendable collateral. Then she turns her fire on Oprah Winfrey. Is obesity really genetic—or is that a comforting lie designed to keep you dependent, medicated, and profitable? Jillian breaks down the science they don’t want you to hear, dismantles the “shame-free” marketing narrative, and exposes the financial conflicts of interest behind the sudden moral rebrand of weight-loss drugs. From Ozempic to Big Food to Big Pharma, this is how the system keeps you sick—and sells you the cure. No platitudes. No safe opinions. Just facts, incentives, and uncomfortable truths. In this episode, Jillian exposes: The ICE Shooting Investigation. Why federal agencies are sidelining local investigators. Blue City Chaos: How reckless language from top politicians escalates into real-world violence. The Ozempic Conflict: Oprah's financial entanglements behind the new “genetic destiny” storyline and GLP1 drugs. The BLISS POINT: How the “food” was engineered to hijack satiety and drive addiction. Big Tobacco’s Takeover: How cigarette giants bought the food industry and applied the same addiction science. The Science of Fat Loss. Why the First Law of Thermodynamics still applies—no matter how it’s marketed. The REAL REASON Why 74% of Americans Are Overweight. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

REGIME CHANGE EXPOSED Dinesh D'Souza is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, award-winning filmmaker, and former White House policy analyst under Ronald Reagan. , Dinesh brings a unique insider perspective to the ruthless game of global power. In this episode, he cuts through the media hysteria to reveal the cold, hard truth about American intervention. 🔥 THE BREAKDOWN: AMERICA FIRST ≠ AMERICA ONLY: Does putting our country first mean ignoring the rest of the world? Dinesh argues that true nationalism sometimes requires bold global action—but only when it serves our interests. WHEN REGIME CHANGE ACTUALLY WORKS: Why do some interventions liberate nations while others create disasters? We analyze the specific conditions that make toppling a dictator viable versus a fool's errand. THE BACKFIRE EFFECT: From the Bay of Pigs to Iraq, Dinesh exposes why foreign intervention frequently backfires and creates worse enemies than before. THE SECRET INGREDIENT: Why internal politics matter infinitely more than external military force—and why you can’t force freedom on a population that isn't ready to fight for it. GREENLAND & THE ART OF THE THREAT: Dinesh dissects the crucial difference between influence, pressure, and direct action. Is Trump’s threat to invade Greenland a literal plan, or a masterclass in leverage? ISRAEL, IRAN, & THE "BIBI" OPTION: With the Mullahs on the ropes, should Trump intervene directly to help the Iranian people? Or is the smarter play to step back and let Netanyahu and Israel finish the job? THE MADURO TAKEDOWN: Why the media hates admitting that pressure on Venezuela works. We compare the recent strategies against Maduro to the failed, weak-kneed appeasement of the past. GOOD VS. BAD COUPS: When is toppling a government a moral duty? Dinesh breaks down the difference between a "Neocon endless war" and a "Liberation Strategy" that puts America First. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is America descending from a culture war to a civil war?! Jillian Michaels sits with political journalist and firebrand Brad Palumbo to expose how the unthinkable is being normalized.  How political violence is openly celebrated, how extremist rhetoric is laundered through mainstream media and publicly elected politicians, and how figures with massive platforms are dragging the country toward something far darker than disagreement. We examine moments that should have ended careers—Jennifer Welch celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk—and instead became stepping stones to legitimacy. We dissect how Tucker Carlson reduced U.S. foreign policy to a conspiratorial narrative involving gay marriage and Jewish influence, how Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes stoke dangerous conspiracy theories bringing them from the most toxic corners of the internet the masses.  What follows is already visible: citizens encouraged to view federal law enforcement as tyrants, treated not as civil servants but as Hitler’s secret police. Neighbors are rebranded as enemies.  The scapegoating of minorities etc.  When violence is reframed as resistance, when institutions lose all legitimacy, history tells us exactly where this leads. This episode confronts the question no one wants to ask out loud:Are we sleepwalking toward civil war? Because when truth collapses, moral lines dissolve, and extremism is rewarded instead of confronted, the next phase isn’t debate.It’s conflict. Topics include: political radicalization, normalization of violence, conspiracy laundering, media corruption, delegitimization of institutions, tribalism, algorithmic extremism, and the growing risk of civil unrest in America.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jillian is joined by David Harris Jr., a leading conservative voice known for fusing Christian faith with blunt cultural and political commentary. With millions following his work, David doesn’t dodge the hard questions about religion, morality, accountability, and where America is headed next. We break down: Why morals are collapsing in America How faith became a political battleground Whether belief is healing the nation—or tearing it apart What happens when a country loses its moral anchor America is in moral free fall. Institutions are failing. Truth is blurred. Power is shifting fast.  People are feeling more lost, overwhelmed, and alone than they have in decades. As the country spirals, faith has moved from personal belief to a cultural and political weapon.  Is religion the answer to personal peace and a principled life or another tool weaponized to divide us? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They told you it was about narco-terrorism. They told you it was about justice. They lied. The capture of Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro isn't just a win for the DEA—it is a geopolitical earthquake involving oil, gold, silver, the war on terror, and a battle for global supremacy. In this explosive episode of Keeping It Real, Jillian Michaels sits down with Ex-CIA Covert Ops Officer Mike Baker (host of The President’s Daily Breif) and Constitutional Attorney Josh Hammer to reveal what the mainstream media and partisan pundits aren’t telling you. We strip away the headlines to expose the truth about what’s really going on, why, and what is likely to happen next: 🔥 INSIDE THIS EPISODE: PART 1: THE OPERATION & THE STRATEGY (w/ Mike Baker) The Intel: How the U.S. really pulled off the capture of Maduro (and the message it sends to Cuba and Iran.) Follow the Money: The role of Venezuela’s massive oil and gold reserves in the decision. The Adversaries: How Russia, China, Iran, and Cuba are reacting to losing their key ally in the Western Hemisphere. Checkmate or Chaos? Is this the move that forces Putin and Xi to the negotiating table, or have we just locked ourselves into another "Forever War” in the jungles of South America? PART 2: THE LAW & THE FALLOUT (w/ Josh Hammer) Legal Deep Dive: Did President Trump effectively break international law to get this done? The Precedent: Does this now open the door for China to take Taiwan? The Constitution: Is there any foundation for the domestic legal battles that are about to explode? The Verdict: Is there a loophole that could see Maduro walk free? This conversation goes beyond the "official story." If you want to understand the new rules of global power, you need to watch this. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A tiny country with unlimited money.A massive footprint inside U.S. politics, media, universities, and national security.And almost no public accountability. Investigative journalist Frannie Block (The Free Press) joins me to expose how Qatar quietly became one of the most powerful foreign players inside the United States — outspending nearly every other country outside of Saudi Arabia to shape narratives, policy, and power from the inside out. We break down how billions of dollars flow through universities, think tanks, lobbying firms, media outlets, journalists and influencers, and former U.S. officials, all while flying under the radar of the American public.   We cover:• How Qatar outspent every other foreign nation to buy influence in the U.S.• Why American universities became a key pipeline for foreign power• How lobbying, PR firms, and “cultural exchange” mask political influence• The FARA loopholes that make it all legal• Why politicians from both parties stay silent• How media narratives are shaped — and who benefits• Why this would be a national scandal if China or Russia did it This episode connects the dots between money, power, ideology, and silence — and asks the uncomfortable question: Who are the main perpetrators, how are they doing it, AND WHY? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Start your 2026 transformation with the ultimate guide to Muscle-Centric Medicine®. In this episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, NYT Bestselling author of Forever Strong, joins us to reveal the science-backed secrets of fat loss, metabolic health, and longevity. If you’ve struggled with stubborn weight or midlife health plateaus, this masterclass explains why muscle is the "organ of longevity" and how to optimize your biology using the latest medical breakthroughs. We dive deep into Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT), and the "Peptide Revolution." Skeletal Muscle & Longevity: Why building muscle is the #1 predictor of how well you age. The Truth About Fat Loss: How to lose body fat without sacrificing lean muscle mass (the "under-muscled" epidemic). Peptides for 2026: A breakdown of GLP-1s, BPC-157, IGF1LR3, and Ipamorelin for tissue repair and metabolic reset. Hormone Optimization: Navigating Men’s TRT and Menopause HRT to reclaim energy and bone density. Protein-Forward Nutrition: The exact protein requirements to trigger muscle protein synthesis and stabilize blood sugar. Stop "dieting" and start building a body that lasts. Whether you are interested in biohacking, strength training, or the future of regenerative medicine, Dr. Lyon provides the blueprint for a New Year, New You. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tom MacDonald wages war on a “Woke World” and risks it all in the process. The music industry wanted him silenced—instead, he became the biggest independent rapper in the world. From the depths of severe alcoholism and poverty to complete financial freedom, Tom breaks down the brutal cost of telling the truth in a world addicted to lies. He reveals how he dismantles the culture war by rejecting the trap of tribalism entirely—weaponizing the labels cast by the woke left while exposing the cowardice of the “alt right". This episode goes beyond controversy and into the blueprint of building power without permission: owning your masters, controlling your message, and turning rejection into leverage. It’s a blunt look at the price of authenticity, the discipline required to stay sober, and what it really takes to go from rags to riches without selling your soul. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As America approaches a pivotal 2026, leadership matters now more than ever. With key issues like fair trade, strong borders, and economic independence all dominating the President’s agenda, attention has shifted to America’s national security as Trump looks to reshape U.S. relations with China, Ukraine, and the Middle East. In this all-encompassing conversation, Jillian Michaels and Sean Spicer dissect President Trump’s America First strategy — from securing the border and strengthening the economy to tackling healthcare reform and restoring stability on the global stage. The discussion revisits the defining moments of 2025, highlighting the President’s biggest wins, toughest challenges, and the lessons shaping the year ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Award-winning financial journalist Trish Regan breaks down what the headlines are getting wrong about the U.S. economy. From the latest jobs data to inflation, interest rates, gas prices, wages, AI job displacement, and the growing squeeze on the middle class—this conversation cuts through the spin and explains what the data really means for your money. We cover why wages “outpacing inflation” doesn’t feel real, how Federal Reserve policy hits regular Americans differently than the wealthy, why housing is out of reach for an entire generation, and how energy prices quietly control the cost of everything you buy. We also dive into AI’s impact on jobs, the future of work, Venezuela and global energy politics, BRICS, the U.S. dollar, and what to expect as we head toward 2026. If you’re confused, frustrated, or feel like the economy you’re living in doesn’t match what politicians are selling—this episode explains why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Navy Seal, Carl Higbie, host of Front Line on Newsmax, joins Jillian to discuss two tragedies, thousands of miles apart, that have shattered the holiday season. In Australia, a "Hanukkah by the Sea" celebration at Bondi Beach turned into a massacre, leaving 15 unalived in what the Prime Minister is calling a targeted act of antisemitic terrorism. Meanwhile, in the U.S., a mystery gunman remains at large after ki**ing two students at Brown University—despite the campus being a surveillance-heavy "weapon-free zone." This episode confronts the uncomfortable duality of our times. We analyze the specific threats emerging globally—from the foiled "Christmas Market" plot in Germany to the weapons stockpiles found in London—and dive into the hard data on radicalization that policymakers often ignore. We discuss the FBI's recent intervention in California against the Turtle Island Liberation Front and Governor Abbott's controversial move to label the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as foreign terrorist organizations.   Finally, we tackle the theological divide. Why do historians distinguish between "Meccan" and "Medinan" verses in the Quran? What is the Doctrine of Abrogation? And ultimately, when fundamental values clash, is coexistence always possible? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Drew Pinsky goes scorched earth on what he calls California’s “Homelessness Industrial Complex” - He breaks down exactly how California has built a billion-dollar machine designed to profit from bureaucracy... all while keeping addicts sick, untreated, and abandoned on city sidewalks.  From corrupt NGO’s to dirty politicians and woke ideology - nothing is left unexposed. Then we get into the political brawl between Halle Berry and Gavin Newsom—why the Governor vetoed the ‘Menopause Care Equity Act’ twice, and why denying the life-changing benefits of HRT to men and women in mid-life isn’t just bad politics... it’s a medical travesty.And finally, he tears into the exploding controversy around Kennedy’s decision to remove the Hep B vaccine from the CDC’s childhood vaccine schedule as well as whispered conversations about a potential ‘Black Box Warning’ on COVID shots for our kids and teens. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, a well-regarded ENT specialist, became one of the most polarizing figures in American medicine after refusing to fall in line during COVID. When her off-label use of ivermectin went public, the backlash was immediate: her hospital suspended her, the medical board came after her, and she was thrust into a national firestorm. In this episode, she lays out the blueprint she says was used to punish dissenting physicians—how hospital systems, public-health agencies, and industry interests closed ranks to enforce a single narrative. She breaks down the conflicts of interest baked into the modern “medical-industrial complex,” and why she decided to fight rather than fold. From vaccine-injury cases to mandate battles to the unprecedented wave of medical censorship, Dr. Bowden pulls no punches. She takes aim at the NIH, FDA, major hospital systems, and the Biden administration—exposing what she sees as a system more interested in profit, control, and compliance than patient care. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices