The Open Source Way

In this episode of The Open Source Way, Karsten Hohage chats with Sonja Lienard, Senior Vice President and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. They delve into Sonja’s professional journey, her contributions to ABAP development, and the significant role open source technologies play at SAP. The discussion covers Sonja’s involvement with various programming languages, the integration of Eclipse IDE and Rust into ABAP development, and the importance of bottom-up innovation. Sonja emphasizes the value of swarm intelligence and the necessity for senior management to grant developers the freedom to explore open source projects. Tune in for an engaging conversation on how open source drives both external collaboration and internal development at SAP – from a senior manager’s perspective! Guests: Sonja Liénard Sonja Liénard is Senior Vice President and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. In her role, she leads a global engineering organization and defines the long-term vision, strategy, and roadmap of the ABAP platform in multiple areas such as Generative Artificial Intelligence, ABAP Cloud, ABAP Platform Infrastructure, and Custom Code Transformation for SAP’s Clean Core strategy. Follow Sonja on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonjalienard/ Show Notes: SAP Help Portal | ABAP Development Tools for Eclipse SAP Learning | Learn the Basics of ABAP Programming on SAP BTP The Open Source Way | License Compliance – From risks to developer friendly processes The Open Source Way | Rust – A Language on the Rise The Open Source Way | Eclipse Dirigible – An Open-Source Platform for End-To-End Rapid Development of Business Applications SAP Open Source Program Office Innovation at SAP | SAP Open Source SAP Community | SAP Open Source SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) Follow Karsten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Juergen Walter, Pallavi Priyadarshini and Karsten Schnitter about OpenSearch. OpenSearch is an open-source search, analytics and observability suite which has been enhanced with significant AI capabilities.  This episode showcases SAP’s current use of OpenSearch for observability on their Business Technology Platform and the project’s evolution from Elasticsearch, community-driven development, and AI advancements. Key contributions like FIPS compliance and OpenTelemetry integration are also covered.  Learn how OpenSearch is shaping the future by combining advanced full-text search, observability, and analytics capabilities—all community-driven and completely open source.  Guests: Pallavi Priyadarshini As Director of Search, Pallavi Priyadarshini leads Search at the OpenSearch Project and Amazon’s OpenSearch Service, including its managed and serverless offerings. She also serves on the Technical Steering Committee of the OpenSearch Project, helping guide the open-source platform’s technical direction. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pallavipr/  Juergen Walter Jürgen Walter is an observability expert in SAP BTP observability driving ingestion and usage, certifications, and stability topics for SAP Cloud Logging and other services. He is a member of the newly formed OpenSearch Observability TAG and contributed improvements for OpenSearch ingest. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juergen-walter/ Karsten Schnitter Karsten Schnitter is a software architect working in the observability area of the SAP Business Technology Platform. He is responsible for SAP Cloud Logging and other logging services for SAP BTP. Karsten is also a member of the technical steering committee at the OpenSearch Project. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-schnitter-7b85b174/ Show Notes: SAP Cloud Logging at Discovery Center: https://discovery-center.cloud.sap/serviceCatalog/cloud-logging OpenSearch Main Page: https://opensearch.org/ Github Project: https://github.com/opensearch-project Case Study: OpenSearch@SAP: https://opensearch.org/blog/case-study-sap-unifies-observability-at-scale-with-opensearch-and-opentelemetry/ OpenSearchCon North America 2025 | YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzgr9zSpws14nCUmupVPypGXq87rcFp5Y Cloud Foundry: https://podcast.opensap.info/open-source-way/2022/09/28/cloud-foundry-a-one-size-fits-all-solution-for-application-development/ Kyma: https://podcast.opensap.info/open-source-way/2020/12/23/project-kyma-an-easy-way-to-extend-enterprise-applications/ SAP Open Source Program Office Innovation at SAP | SAP Open Source: https://www.sap.com/about/company/innovation/open-source.html SAP Community | SAP Open Source: https://community.sap.com/topics/open-source SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode Karsten Hohage, Johannes Ott and Maximilian Techritz talk about Open Managed Control Planes – an open source project that allows you to orchestrate any aspect of a cloud landscape using one declarative API. Johannes Ott and Maximilian Techritz, who are both software engineers at SAP, talk about Open Managed Control Planes – an open source project that allows you to orchestrate any aspect of a cloud landscape using one declarative API. This is made possible by harmonizing different open source tools in the Kubernetes ecosystem. Johannes and Maximilian will show why this project solves reoccurring challenges in enterprises, how it works and what organizations need to get started. Guests: Maximilian Techritz Maximilian Techritz is a Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at SAP. He is one of the contributors to Open Managed Control Planes and shares excitement around tools in the Kubernetes ecosystem to a growing community within SAP and externally. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilian-techritz  Johannes Ott Johannes Ott is a Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at SAP and one of the contributors to Open Managed Control Planes. He actively shares best practices around Infrastructure as Data and promotes tools around the Kubernetes ecosystem within SAP and the open source community. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannes-ott-00a74949/ Show Notes: https://github.com/openmcp-project https://neonephos.org/ https://apeirora.eu/ https://www.bundeswirtschaftsministerium.de/Redaktion/EN/Artikel/Industry/ipcei-cis.html SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, Karsten Hohage talks about QEMU with Helge Deller from SAP and Alex Bennée from Linaro. QEMU, short for “Quick Emulator”, is a virtualization software that can be used to emulate various types of hardware. They discuss the open source aspects of QEMU, how it is used in various aspects of the software development lifecycle, and how it helps the software ecosystem. Guests: Helge Deller Helge is head of SAP’s Linux lab, which is responsible for the development, certification and support of SAP products on Linux. And in his spare time, he is a maintainer of the RISC and PA-RISC Linux port and various areas of the Linux kernel. And he contributes to QEMU.   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helge-deller Alex Bennée Alex is a senior tech lead for virtualization and emulation at Linaro. Over his career, he has worked on devices from one-armed bandits to microwave communication systems. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbennee/ Show Notes: QEMU Project Project homepage: http://www.qemu.org Code repo: https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu Issues: https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues Documentation: https://qemu.readthedocs.io SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file QEMU: https://www.qemu.org/ Linaro: https://www.linaro.org/ KVM: https://linux-kvm.org/ PA-RISC: https://parisc.docs.kernel.org/ Alex on GitHub: https://github.com/stsquad Helge on GitHub: https://github.com/hdeller Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, Karsten Hohage and Siegfried Kiermayer, a cloud architect at SAP Commerce, discuss governance issues and solutions in open source projects.   The host Karsten Hohage, and guest Siegfried Kiermayer, cloud architect at SAP Commerce, talk about governance issues and solutions in open source projects, using projects like Catena-X and Tractus-X as an example. Starting with the basis of what these projects are, they will go into detail on how the projects are managed with time throughout the episode.  Guests: Siegfried Kiermayer  For seven years running, Siegfried Kiermayer serves as a Cloud Architect at SAP, where he is currently responsible for the Build Environment of SAP Commerce. He held an integral, founding role with Catena-X for two years and Eclipse Foundation Tractus-X Project Lead.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siegfried-kiermayer-006199110 Show Notes: Catena-X: https://catena-x.net/ Tractus-X: https://eclipse-tractusx.github.io/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode Karsten Hohage and Thiago Weber Martins, the product manager for AAS Digital Twins at SAP, take a deep dive into the Asset Administration Shell. The host Karsten Hohage converses with Thiago Weber Martins, the product manager for AAS Digital Twins at SAP, about the Asset Administration Shell (AAS). Thiago takes us on a journey about what the AAS is, what the standards are, and where AAS and digital twins are used. Together they also talk about the original idea and goals of digital twins and how these developed over time. Guests: Thiago Weber Martins Thiago is a Product Manager for AAS Digital Twins at SAP. His mission is to further develop digital twins based on standards within business applications and processes to ensure interoperability in industrial ecosystems.   He is therefore involved in the Industrial Digital Twin Association (IDTA) to drive the Asset Administration Shell (AAS) as the standard for digital twins. Thiago is also a project lead for the Eclipse AAS Model for Java and member of the Project Management Committee of the Eclipse Digital Twin Top-Level Project. He holds a PhD in mechanical engineering from TU Darmstadt, where he focused on AI approaches to automate product development processes.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-thiago-weber-martins/ Show Notes: SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) Email us: ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

A dive into the basics of InnerSource Commmons, the worlds largest community of InnerSource advocates. In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Danese Cooper, Guilherme Dellagustin (SAP), and Russ Rutledge about InnerSource Commons. Founded in 2015, InnerSource Commons is the worlds largest community of InnerSource advocates. InnerSource Commons provides knowledge, best pratices, challenges, and solutions related to InnerSource for organizations and individuals. Guests: Danese Cooper Danese Cooper is a well-known advocate for open source. She is also the founder of the InnerSource Commons Foundation. During her career in tech, she has focused on manifesting better software engineering outcomes by fostering healthy community practices and implementing transparent processes. She says that she abhors silos.  GitHub: https://github.com/danese Russ Rutledge Russ Rutledge is the Executive Director of the InnerSource Commons. He also serves as Senior Director of InnerSource and collaboration at WellSky, the health technology company leading the charge to make healthcare better for everyone. And Russ’s drive and passion is to enable all software engineers worldwide to achieve incredible results via streamlined collaborative InnerSource processes. GitHub: https://github.com/rrrutledge Guilherme Dellagustin I am a software developer who acts as InnerSource Officer at SAP. I’m also a member of the InnerSource Commons foundation. As InnerSource officer, I co-lead the InnerSource program at SAP, helping spread the practice in the company, and as member of foundation, I do the same, but to spread the practice in the whole industry. I was also the producer of this very podcast in 2023. In my free time, I talk about retrogaming (in portuguese) at the podcast “Fliperama de Boteco”. GitHub: https://github.com/dellagustin-sap Show Notes: Download the transcript as PDF file InnerSource Commons: https://innersourcecommons.org/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source on X (Twitter) Email us: ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

A little time jump into the past when Christoph Roland and Harald Kuck ported SAP software stack to Linux. In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Christoph Roland (former SAP) and Harald Kuck (SAP) about the past – when they both ported SAP software stack to Linux back in the 90s. Today Linux provides an open-source-based operating system infrastructure for SAP solutions. In the podcast Christoph and Harald share anecdotes and insides from the very beginning of Open Source and SAP. Guests: Christoph Rohland Chrstoph Rohland discovered Linux at university in early 1993 and was convinced that Linux it had a great future. He joined SAP in 1994 where he started in the support organization, but soon joined Harald’s development team. Christoph took care of SAP’s network library – and ported the SAP stack to Linux. He then founded the SAP LinuxLab. Later he took on several management roles. He left SAP in 2008 to pursue other opportunities. GitHub: https://github.com/hcrohland Harald Kuck Harald Kuck led SAP’s ABAP Platform unit until March 2024 and is now retiring. He started his career at Siemens and Karlsruhe University, before joining SAP in 1989, where he was part of the team implementing the R/3 kernel in C. Since then, Harald has founded several SAP technology development teams, including the SAP JVM team in the Java space or the Steampunk team in the ABAP space. One of the highlights of his 38-year career was initiating SAP’s move to Linux and open source, together with Christoph, in 1999. Show Notes: SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source on X (Twitter) Email us: ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF file Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

What is CAP Operator, what are its main features, and how does it function? In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Sathyajith Krishnan (SAP) and Pavan Nayak (SAP) about CAP Operator – which deploys and manages the lifecycle of multi-tenant SAP Cloud Application Programming Model applications and related components, based on SAP BTP golden path, within a Kubernetes cluster. Sathyajith and Pavan explain the main features of CAP Operator and share an overview of the major automation steps handled by CAP Operator during the deployment of the application. The conversation also covers the operator’s evolution from an internal solution to an open-source resource, the foundational knowledge needed for users, and future enhancements planned for better integration and community engagement. Guests: Sathyajith Krishnan is a Development Architect focused on building platform components which enable ease of consumption as well as access to the latest technologies for developers building business applications. For the past 16 years he has worked as part of product development teams as well as Customer specific implementation projects at SAP which has helped him gain unique perspectives on how to develop platform capabilities for both internal development teams as well as the external ecosystem. GitHub: https://github.com/skrishnan-sap/ Pavan Nayak is an architect in the Cloud ERP area with 17 years of experience across different projects at SAP. Perhaps this may be of interest to Open Source Way listeners: Pavan was also part of UI5 within SAP and has interest in several Open Source projects in his private life outside SAP, most prominently the custom ROM scene with AOSP (esp. LineageOS). GitHub: https://github.com/Pavan-SAP Show Notes: Links SAP Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP): https://cap.cloud.sap CAP Operator GitHub: https://github.com/SAP/cap-operator CAP SAP Community page: https://pages.community.sap.com/topics/cloud-application-programming SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter Email us: ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads Download transcript as PDF file Host: Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Florian Wilhelm (SAP) about Project Garden Linux – a lightweight, secure Linux distribution optimized for cloud-native environments and container workloads, offering minimal footprint and high performance. Florian also explains what the ‘new Linux’ is, why it’s needed and why the new Linux is of interest for open source, the community and for SAP. Guest: Florian Wilhelm Florian is a senior software developer with a passion for Linux and Free Open-Source Software. He worked on Java-based projects before joining SAP in Potsdam in 2017 where he contributed to multiple projects, most notably the SAP Cloud SDK and Project ‘Piper’. He joined the project ‘Garden Linux’ team fulltime in 2024 after he got to know the team while doing a fellowship where he implemented a proof of concept for safe in-place upgrades using OSTree in Garden Linux. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fwilhe/ GitHub: https://github.com/fwilhe Show Notes: Garden Linux on GitHub: https://github.com/gardenlinux Blog post series on OSTree Proof of Concept for Garden Linux: https://blogs.sap.com/2023/07/10/making-an-immutable-image-based-operating-system-out-of-garden-linux/ Getting started with the Garden Linux Builder: https://github.com/gardenlinux/builder/blob/main/docs/getting_started.md Garden Linux docs for developers and admins: https://github.com/gardenlinux/gardenlinux/blob/main/docs/README.md Florian’s GitHub profile: https://github.com/fwilhe Florian’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fwilhe SAP Open Source Program OfficeSAP Open Source at SAP Community    SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com    Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

What is Open Resource Discovery (ORD) and how can it be used and implemented inside SAP and beyond? In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Simon Heimler (SAP) about Open Resource Discovery (ORD) – a protocol that allows applications and services to self-describe their exposed resources and capabilities. Simon explains in more detail what ORD is, how it’s used and where at SAP we already use ORD or plan to use it in the future. As the platform is an open standard by SAP geared towards the SAP ecosystem, how do we ensure a correct adoption of ORD at SAP? And how can it be helpful for individuals outside of SAP? Guest: Simon Heimler Simon Heimler is a Software Architect at SAP and works on metadata standardization & strategy, Data Products, APIs and Event guidelines and integration topics. Before that, he has done full-stack development & architecture in various companies. He maintains a few private open source projects where time permits. GitHub-Link: Fannon (Simon Heimler) · GitHub LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonheimler/ Show Notes: Links SAP GitHub | Open Resource Discovery SAP Community | Open Resource Discovery, a Protocol for Decentralized Metadata Discovery, is now Open Source SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com Try out an open source podcast player (list not maintained by SAP) Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

Introducing abapGit – an open source Git client. In this Podcast episode, we explain and discuss what abapGit is, how it works, what it’s needed for, and how it can be used. In this episode, host Karsten Hohage speaks with Michael Schneider and Marc Bernard about abapGit – an open source Git client developed for the ABAP server to import and export objects between ABAP systems. In the discussion, Marc explains the basics of abapGit, and how it works. He also shares what abapGit is needed for, and how it can be used. Michael gives us some insights about SAP’s involvement in the development of abapGit and invites the listeners to explore more ABAP open source projects. Guests: Michael Schneider For over ten years, Michael has held the product owner role, handling various topics related to ABAP developer tools. Previously, he was a developer in the same field and was part of the pioneering team that built ABAP development tools in Eclipse. He is responsible for various tools in this area, including the ABAP class editor. More recently, he and his team launched and are actively maintaining two open source repositories focusing on ABAP file formats. GitHub-Link: https://github.com/schneidermic0 Marc Bernard Marc Bernard is a distinguished technology architect with a rich history at SAP as a Sr. Chief Architect, specializing in in-memory computing and data warehousing. His strategic vision contributed significantly to SAP HANA and BW/4HANA’s success, earning him a reputation as a trusted advisor for SAP customers. In 2019, Marc founded Marc Bernard Tools, focusing on pioneering ABAP open source tools. He’s a lead maintainer for abapGit and contributes to ABAP and JavaScript open source projects, demonstrating his unwavering commitment to the tech community. Marc is a recognized speaker at industry events and is set to present at ABAPConf in June 2024. Twitter: https://twitter.com/marcfbe LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcfbe GitHub-Link: https://github.com/mbtools Show Notes: Links abapGit – A git client for ABAP developed in ABAP GitHub – abapGit/abapGit: Git client for ABAP GitHub – ABAP file format repository Working with abapGit | SAP Help Portal ABAPConf Europe 2024 SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com Try out an open source podcast player (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses the European Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) with Mirko Boehm, Mike Milinkovich, and Sebastian Wolf. Our guests explain what the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) is and why it is important to virtually everyone in the EU and anyone who wants to do business in the European market. What has the journey of the CRA been until now, and what are the next steps in the evolution of CRA? How will the CRA impact the consumption and contribution of Open Source Software? Guests: Mike Milinkovich Mike Milinkovich is a seasoned technology executive with a wealth of experience in leading open source software organizations. For the past 20 years, Mike has served as the Executive Director of the Eclipse Foundation, where he has played a pivotal role in driving innovation and fostering industry collaboration within the Eclipse community. Mike has served on the boards of Open Source Initiative, the Java Community Process, and the OpenJDK community where he championed industry adoption of open-source technologies and standards. LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemilinkovich/ Twitter / X – https://twitter.com/mmilinkov Mirko Bohm Mirko Boehm is a prominent figure in the open-source software community, known for his expertise in software development, leadership, and advocacy. He is currently working as Senior Director, Community Development, Linux Foundation Europe. As a seasoned technologist and entrepreneur, he has held leadership roles in both technical and managerial capacities, demonstrating a unique blend of technical acumen and strategic thinking. Mirko is passionate about fostering collaboration and innovation within the open-source ecosystem, and he is actively involved in promoting the principles of openness, transparency, and community-driven development. LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirkoboehm/ Twitter / X –  https://twitter.com/mirkoboehm Sebastian Wolf Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO. Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz Show Notes: Links https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cyber-resilience-act https://www.eclipse.org/ https://linuxfoundation.eu/ FOSDEM 24 EU Legislative Landscape Devroom: https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/track/eu-policy/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, host Karsten Hohage discusses open source and InnerSource at universities with our guest Clare Dillon. Clare explains how collaborative, community-driven approaches to open-source development at universities result in greater knowledge sharing, but also what the academia-specific challenges to open approaches are. This episode will help you gain insight into the evolving open source landscape in academia and how it differs from other parts of the OSS ecosystem. Guest: Clare Dillon Clare Dillon is an open source and InnerSource advocate and is currently a researcher with University of Galway and Lero, the Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Software. Alongside working with the emerging global community of academic OSPOs, Clare is a member of Lero’s OSPO team. From 2021-2023, Clare served as the inaugural Executive Director of InnerSource Commons, a global non-profit foundation supporting open collaboration methods in corporate software development. In 2021, Clare co-founded Open Ireland Network, a community for those interested in advancing open source at a national level in Ireland. Previously, Clare was a member of the Microsoft Ireland Leadership Team, heading up their Developer Evangelism Group and responsible for Microsoft Ireland’s Academic Outreach Programs for over 10 years. Clare is a qualified coach and frequently speaks on topics relating to open collaboration and the future of work. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claredillon/   Show Notes: Lero’s OSPO Sloan Foundation Science Foundation Ireland Research Centre for Software SustainOSS Academic Working Group CHAOSS SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community Mastodon – @SAPOpenSource@fosstodon.org Twitter – @sapopensource E-mail – ospo@sap.com SAP University Alliances Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Powen Shiah and Mirko Swillus about the Sovereign Tech Fund. Established in 2022, it focuses on critical infrastructure in the public interest with the goal of supporting development, improvement, and maintenance of open-source components in digital infrastructure. The funding comes from the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action (Bundesministerium für Wirtschaft und Klimaschutz), as investing in digital commons strengthens innovation, economic competition, and democracy. Guests: Powen Shiah Powen handles communications at the Sovereign Tech Fund. He’s worked in product marketing, communications, and internationalization at technology startups in Germany and the US and really enjoys thinking about how technologies impact our lives. His latest passion is a growing collection of (savory) popcorn seasonings. Twitter: https://twitter.com/polexa LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/powenshiah/ Mastodon: https://tech.lgbt/@polexa Mirko Swillus Mirko has 15 years of professional experience in software engineering, working in different setups and roles. He’s specifically interested in the question of how engineering communities organize to achieve sustainable productivity. While Powen lives in Berlin, Mirko is based in Dresden. Mastodon: https://chaos.social/@mechko LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirko-swillus-3a0714191/ Show Notes: Sovereign Tech Fund How to apply – https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/programs/applications Announcement – STF The Sovereign Tech Fund is becoming permanent and an independent organization – https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/news/stf-becomes-independent-permanent-organization Mastodon – https://mastodon.social/@sovtechfund LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/sovereign-tech-fund/ BlueSky – https://bsky.app/profile/sovereigntechfund.de Twitter/X – https://twitter.com/sovtechfund Open Source Contributor Index (OCI) – https://opensourceindex.io/ Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure – Ford Foundation Mentioned episodes https://podcast.opensap.info/open-source-way/2021/07/28/rust-a-language-on-the-rise/ https://podcast.opensap.info/open-source-way/2023/08/30/open-component-model-ocm-describe-transport-deploy/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com Try out an open-source podcast player – find a list here (list not maintained by SAP) Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Max Mehl and Sebastian Wolf about Software Bills of Materials or SBOMs. An SBOM is a detailed record of all components within a software application, including open-source libraries, third-party dependencies and licenses. Max and Sebastian discuss the importance of SBOMs as well as some challenges and unanswered questions of the state of the art. They also speak with Karsten about SBOMs within SAP and Deutsche Bahn and the importance of SBOMs when it comes to open source. Guests: Max Mehl Max has been committed to free and open-source software for many years. He is responsible for all aspects of open source at DB Systel. In this role, he supports Deutsche Bahn in using and contributing to open source professionally. He previously worked for the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE), where he coordinated initiatives such as REUSE and “Public Money? Public Code!”. He is a board member of FSFE and F-Droid and is involved in several projects as a maintainer. GitHub: https://github.com/mxmehl Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@mxmehl LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxmehl/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mxmehl   Blog: https://mehl.mx/blog/ Website: https://mehl.mx/ Sebastian Wolf Sebastian is a development architect and has worked for the SAP OSPO since the beginning of 2020. He first joined SAP in 2003 as a student and has since worked in several development positions at, for example, SAP SRM, ABAP Development Tools, the SAP Community Network, and Central Architecture. He was engaged at the Corona-Warn-App project as a community manager from the very beginning and is now coordinating open-source consumption topics in the SAP OSPO. Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ygriega GitHub: https://github.com/Wunderfitz Show Notes: Slides: SBOMs – A short introduction · todogroup/ospology · Discussion #376 (github.com) Software Bill of Deliveries (SBOD) Episode 34: Open Component Model (OCM) – Describe, Transport, Deploy https://ocm.software/ SBOM Everywhere Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) – SBOM Everywhere – Special Interest Group SBOM Everywhere and the Security Tooling Working Group: Providing the Best Security Tools for Open Source Developers (Blog) How SAP paved the road for 30k+ developers – PlatformCon 2023 (Video) OSS Review Toolkit – https://github.com/oss-review-toolkit/ort SPDX – https://spdx.dev/ CycloneDX – https://cyclonedx.org/ Deutsche Bahn Open Source: https://opensource.deutschebahn.com SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail – ospo@sap.com    Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Thomas Barber about project “Foxhound”, an SAP-maintained fork of Firefox (the web browser) that is designed to detect security vulnerabilities in websites. Thomas discusses the history of “Foxhound”, how and why it was created, and its journey to becoming an open-source project. He talks about the importance of the collaborations that made Foxhound successful and about some of the challenges that it has faced along the way. Anyone who wants to get involved in this project is welcome to visit the GitHub page to learn more. Guest: Thomas Barber Thomas’ first experience with software development was at the age of twelve when he programmed the game “Mortal Wombat” in QuickBASIC. Since then, he has worked as an embedded software developer and security expert in the automotive industry, before moving to SAP Security Research in 2019. Thomas’ interests include investigating novel techniques for the detection and automatic prevention of injection vulnerabilities and privacy violations in web applications. Thomas holds a PhD in the field of Physics from the University of Cambridge and has published papers in the fields of Particle Physics, Astronomy, and Computer Science. GitHub: https://github.com/tmbrbr  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-barber-b3965551/ Show Notes: SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource) e-mail: ospo@sap.com Project Foxhound – https://github.com/SAP/project-foxhound SAP Security Research – https://www.sap.com/about/company/innovation/icn.html#research Additional Downloads Download the transcript as PDF-file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

In this episode our host Karsten Hohage talks to Ana Jiménez Santamaria about the TODO Group, a community dedicated to sharing knowledge, collaborating on practices, tools, and other ways to run effective Open Source Program Offices and similar initiatives. They discuss its history, mission, working mode, and how TODO Group provides a platform to connect peers and enables them to collaborate on projects that promote the integration of strategic open-source practices within different organizations. Everyone is welcome to join the TODO mission and contribute to the continuous development of best practices. Guests: Ana Jiménez Santamaría is the OSPO Program Manager at the TODO Group. Ana has a strong background in Open Source, Developer Relations, Community Health Analytics, and InnerSource. She previously worked at Bitergia, a software development analytics firm, where she completed her M.Sc. in Data Science. Her thesis focused on measuring the success of Developer Relations in Open Source communities. For more details on her thesis work, check out: https://anajimenezsantamaria.gitlab.io/ GitHub: https://github.com/anajsana LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-jiménez-santamaría/ Mastodon: https://fosstodon.org/@anajsana Twitter: https://twitter.com/anajsana95 Show Notes: Links TODO Website: https://todogroup.org/ Open Source Program Office definition: https://ospoglossary.todogroup.org/ospo-definition/ Get Started Resources: https://todogroup.org/community/get-started/ General Member & Steering Committee Charter: https://todogroup.org/about/charter/ Support TODO as a General Member: https://todogroup.org/join/ Support TODO as OSPO Associate: https://todogroup.org/about/associates/ TODO Ambassador Program: https://todogroup.org/community/ambassadors/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads: Download transcript as PDF file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

OCM is an extensible standard accompanied by a toolset designed to enable the automation of many software-lifecycle-related processes. It can be defined as a common machine-readable format for describing software components, which serves as a Software Bill of Delivery (SBoD). In this episode, our guests Jason Kafka and Ingo Kober discuss with host Karsten Hohage about OCM and why it is run as open source. Jason and Ingo also talk about their vision for OCM’s future, its applications, and its challenges. Guests: Jason Kafka has been part of the SAP family for 14 years. He started as a Software Engineer in the development support area, debugging hard core C/C++ SAP NetWeaver kernel bugs, and then went into technical project management. After that, he spent 1.5 years in Shanghai to help set up the SAP Cloud Platform. He then joined the Gardener organization, where he is now an engineering manager responsible for the Gardener Lifecycle Management team. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-kafka-073a607/ Ingo Kober joined SAP 22 years ago and has since worked in various positions, including development (Web / Java / ABAP), and  scrum master. He is now a product owner for the internal service Landscaper, used to orchestrate Kubernetes deployments. In his current position, he mostly works with teams in the software lifecycle management area, trying to streamline processes and tools across SAP, with the goal to “improve SAP developers’ lives.” His current technology focus is on Kubernetes. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ingo-kober-0a9875283/ GitHub: https://github.com/In-Ko SAP People: https://people.sap.com/ingo.kober Show Notes: SGS = SAP Global Security team Links https://ocm.software/ OCM – Breaking Boundaries with Open-Source Collaboration https://www.weave.works/ https://gardener.cloud/ SPDX ® – Software Package Data Exchange® – https://spdx.dev/   https://cyclonedx.org/ SAP Open Source Program Office SAP Open Source at SAP Community SAP Open Source Twitter ospo@sap.com Additional Downloads: Download transcript as PDF file Hosted by Karsten Hohage – Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/

Dear listener, we typically have a summer break in August, but this year we will do it in July. We will be back with an episode for you at the last Wednesday of August. If you are craving for open source content from us, check out the recordings of our public webinars at https://webinars.sap.com/ospo-webinar-series/en/webinar-replays!