Leaving Eden Podcast

n this special episode, we discuss the charges filed against former 19 Kids and Counting/Counting On star Joseph Duggar. Duggar is accused of committing Lewd and Lascivious Behavior, involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He has been taken into custody. The alleged molestation occurred some time in 2020. In this episode we discuss everything that we currently know, everything we don't know, the circumstances of the abuse, and then we answer listener questions.This episode contains discussions of child sexual abuse as well as discussion of Joseph's brother Josh's 2021 trial and conviction for possession of CSAM. This episode is not appropriate for children.Nowhere in this episode do we speculate about the identity of the victim, and we will not allow comments that do.Facebook post from Bay County Sheriff's Officehttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EoDDDy9qY/Reddit post with pictures of Joe and Kendra at Panama City Beach dated to October 11https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1rxk6ty/my_parents_2020_beach_vacation/Oxford University article about genetic predisposition to being an abuserhttps://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/sex-offending-genes-more-important-than-family-environment02:00 - Joe Duggar has been arrested 02:54 - Welcome to our show 03:10 - CW for CSA and CSAM discussion 04:20 - Consider joining our Patreon! 05:00 - BCSO Facebook Post 06:50 - Poor Kendra 07:53 - What is Joe charged with? 08:36 - What is a Life Felony? 09:46 - Joe's Apology 11:35 - Purity Pledge 12:34 - Will there be a trial? 17:48 - Thank you to our Patrons! 19:17 - What is the timeline? 20:04 - Raid on the Duggar car lot 20:45 - Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar Dillard 22:26 - Holy Disruptor by Amy Duggar King 24:20 - Jim Bob lied to the family 24:55 - Reddit Pictures on the beach 25:30 - Who was in Panama City Beach? 27:40 - Apologies to the victim's father? 28:15 - Homeland Security and US Marshals 31:27 - Kendra was pregnant 31:50 - Why did Joe Apologize? 32:50 - You are your father's property 34:20 - Did Kendra know? 35:12 - Will Kendra stay or go? 35:30 - Sadie's angry rant 37:43 - Question 1: Have we seen signs from Joe? Joe/Kendra age gap 38:54 - Sadie attended the wedding of a child bride 41:15 - Question 2: How does this keep happening in this family? 42:46 - Women are property, like livestock 44:50 - Limiting access and adding accountability prevents abuse 47:07 - Question 3: We know nothing about the victim or their family 48:11 - Question 4: Did this follow the same pattern as Josh's cover-up? 49:40 - Questions 5 and 6, Social media and Can Kendra Leave because Joe admitted his crime? 52:01 - Question 7: Purity Culture 52:42 - Question 8: Will this change fundie culture? 54:14 - Question 9: Genetics and Grandpa Duggar 55:35 - If there is a trial we will cover it!Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this mini episode, I would like to recommend The Jordan Harbinger Show. Jordan has some amazing guests on his show, and he has a gift for making complex ideas accessible. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving.02:00 - What do they teach you at cult college?02:30 - Marriage and Motherhood degree02:52 - Join the Patreon for all of the bonus content!03:36 - Why do cults need a college?04:30 - Hyles-Anderson College04:53 - Listen to Sadie's interview on Preacher Boys Podcast with Eric Skwarczynski05:05 - Jack Hyles05:25 - Russell Anderson05:55 - Other Christian Colleges were TOO SOFT06:05 - Fundamentalism youth pipeline06:50 - Boot Camp for Christian workers08:15 - Business model of Hyles-Anderson College10:00 - The IFB connection to the unjustified killing of Breonna Taylor10:15 - HAC is unaccredited15:47 - Thank you to all of our patrons!17:12 - What is in the curriculum?17:40 - YOUR BODY IS NOT YOUR OWN BY JOBETH HOOKER21:40 - Scum Manifesto22:20 - Christian Womanhood23:12 - Preparation for Marriage Class23:40 - David and Jonathan24:20 - Give your husband a standing ovation when he comes home or he will cheat on you with his secretary26:54 - Other classes at cult college27:30 - HAC is basically Sea Org/Scientology28:40 - Bible Class30:13 - Steven Anderson and the NIFB32:45 - The rules of cult college34:35 - Dress Code38:40 - Demerit system38:55 - Tiered justice system and nepotism39:40 - Sadie almost got expelled!41:40 - How are the rules enforced?42:10 - The Jericho Plan42:55 - This scheme is probably illegal43:50 - The Bait and SwitchSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sadie takes us through the five categories of Crazy Fundie Rules, and how these rules affect your life when you are trying to live by them. Some of them have biblical justifications, some of them are completely made up by some pastor somewhere and ended up being widely adopted. Fundie pastors use these rules as a way to physically and psychologically control church members, and they can be quite draconian.What are the most arbitrary rules that your church had growing up? Let us know in the comments!02:00 - Is it a sin to walk down the beer aisle in the grocery store? 02:23 - Proverbs 23:31 02:40 - Genesis 3:1-3 03:07 - Crazy Fundie Rules 03:52 - Join our Patreon! 04:37 - The 5 Categories 05:40 - Category 1 05:50 - Prohibition on Tattoos 06:55 - Carl Lentz 07:12 - Pete Hegseth 07:22 - Jewish law vs. Christian Interpretation 10:30 - Joyce Meyer's tattoo 11:47 - Thank you to our patrons! 14:13 - Deuteronomy 22:516:45 - Deadmau5 and the Ferrari17:02 - Why the Duggar Daughters didn't wear pants18:15 - Coulottes vs. JNCO Jeans19:59 - Jealousy is a sin, wanting to do a sin is a sin21:30 - Fundie Women find a way to rebel24:00 - Visibly religious people get harassed the most!26:11 - Category 2 26:31 - Being suspected of sinning is a sin 27:04 - Jack Schaap's crimes 28:27 - Going to the movies is a sin 29:01 - Bee Movie and There Will Be Blood were in the movie theater at the same time 30:14 - Walking down the beer aisle is a sin 30:49 - Category 3 32:30 - Going to Six Flags is a sin 34:17 - Category 4 34:36 - Doing anything that you want to do is a sin 35:00 - Teen Soulwinning is the worst 36:00 - Holy Guilt Trip Batman 36:43 - Wanting a snickers bar is a sin 37:45 - Great Britain is full of heathens 39:00 - Wanting a pretty wife is a sin 40:00 - It is a sin to not be miserable 40:40 - Category 5 41:00 - HosierySubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian fundamentalism and the US.If you have any thoughts, opinions, or questions about this topic (or corrections) please let us know either by comment or by emailing us at LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com! We would love to do a listener responses episdoe!02:00 - Intro02:20 - Black Mirror San Junipero03:15 - The Matrix03:30 - Elon Musk03:48 - Mark Zuckerberg and the Metaverse04:10 - Please subscribe to our Patreon!04:40 - Media Theory and Philosophy05:17 - I'm sorry for mixing up SimulaCRA and SimulaCRUM05:47 - Jean Baudrillard's "Hyperreality"06:04 - Simulacra and Simulation07:10 - First Order Simulacrum07:40 - Second Order Simulacrum07:55 - Third Order Simulacrum, Hyperreality08:29 - Fourth Order Simulacrum, or Pure Simulation08:50 - Alexander Hamilton to Scamilton is Hyperreality11:07 - Christian Nationalism and Hyperreality12:54 - Hyperreality and Pure Simulation are curated reality13:30 - Did Sadie grow up in a simulation?13:50 - Kim Kardashian's butt broke the internet14:54 - The 6 7 meme is proof that we are living in a simulation15:30 - Doot Doot 6 7 by Skrilla15:50 - Lamello Ball16:00 - The 6 7 kid is Hyperreality and the meme is pure simulation17:19 - Brainrot is hyperreality18:50 - Thank you to our patrons!20:17 - The Civil War and the birth of Modernism21:50 - Modernist themes, truth comes from struggle and effort22:17 - Upton Sinclair, The Jungle22:30 - John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath22:50 - Gone With the Wind24:00 - Little Women24:34 - The Civil War, Transcendentalism, Naturalism25:05 - The birth of postmodernism25:15 - Dada art movement (dadaism)25:26 - Anything can be a source of truth25:30 - The gifts of postmodernism, Civil rights, LGBT rights, Women's Lib movement25:55 - World War 2 and the nuclear age27:10 - Love is Blind, Kobe Bryant, Fresh off the Boat, Scottish Independence referendum28:45 - Absurdism, Memes, and Breadtube Spongebob29:04 - The drawbacks of postmodernism30:00 - Hyperreality, 9/1131:22 - Loss of sense of self32:04 - Michael Jackson, Prince, Robin Williams, George Carlin, Jesus, AI Deepfakes32:35 - Leonard Cohen32:50 - Bag Culture, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Jason Kelce, Commercials34:35 - Prince Harry and Meghan Markle36:28 - Please email us!37:01 - Our current state of Hyperreality37:31 - Doctors vs. Anti-Vaxxers and influencers37:41 - Teachers vs. Homeschoolers38:07 - Doomerism38:17 - It's going to be OK?38:38 - The early church38:50 - Jesus was a guy (probably?)39:11 - The Disciples (first order Simulacrum)39:22 - The Council of Nicaea (Second order Simulacrum)39:40 - Church Tradition (Third Order Simulacra, or Hyperreality)40:10 - Culture War/Kid Rock Turning Point USA halftime show40:45 - Growing up in a cult vs. growing up in a simulation41:04 - Destruction of the 2nd Temple happened, Revelation is a first order simulacrum41:35 - Millerism, Adventism, Premillennial Pretribulationism are second order simulacra41:45 - Protocols of the elders of Zion, A Thief in the Night, and Left Behind are all third order simulacra or Hyperreality42:12 - The Holocaust, McCarthyism and the Red Scare, Satanic Panic, Q Anon, January 6, 2025 Rapture Hoax, are mass delusion brought on by pure simulation44:20 - Hyperreality peaked in 202044:45 - The end of COVID-19 and the rise of AI45:04 - What is coming next?45:45 - AI CEOs are grifters46:32 - Minor League Baseball47:10 - 2020, Social Unrest, George Floyd protests, Anti-Mask/Vaxx48:14 - Transcendentalism, Naturalism, humanity's relationship with nature, Oliver Wendel Holmes, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman50:29 - The next movementSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avoiding circular logic traps.00:00 - Intro00:47 - Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast is where the bonus content is!01:30 - Is a hot dog a sandwich?01:50 - We support trans people02:05 - What is a post-truth society?02:20 - Authoritarian populists like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin03:00 - Postmodernism03:44 - The Philosophical Definition04:39 - What is a woman?05:00 - Caitlyn Jenner05:30 - The correspondence theory of truth06:45 - The coherence theory of truth08:30 - Thank you to our wonderful patrons!10:00 - Truth conforms to the entire ecosystem of other things that are true10:10 - What is a sandwich?10:54 - Matt Walsh argues in bad faith12:45 - Bioessentialist transphobia does not hold up to scrutiny13:22 - The King James Bible15:15 - Hateful comments on social media16:10 - The Bible is true because the bible says that the bible is true16:20 - Cult control tactics and brainwashing19:30 - Atheism vs. Religion debate20:00 - Is personal experience evidence?20:55 - Realism and Anti-Realism22:22 - anti-realism23:58 - Big questions24:38 - Color theory25:18 - Berlin and Kay's theory of Basic Color Terms26:58 - WHAT COLOR IS SADIE'S HAIR?28:27 - Sadie is the proof30:03 - John Calvin profile pic30:53 - Sadie once had a man31:08 - Capitalism is the root of all christian misogyny (not actually)33:38 - What is proof?36:04 - Are we living in a simulation?Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and women wearing only skirts and no pants.Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast!Join our discord server!https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit!Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialTikTok:@LeavingEdenPodcast@SadieCarpenter1Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain.We also discuss Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family's appearance in the Epstein files, and why abusers love purity culture so much.Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast!Join our discord server!https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit!Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialTikTok:@LeavingEdenPodcast@SadieCarpenter1Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sadie Carpenter tells us all about Soul Winning, the IFB practice of knocking on doors in order to witness to people and to get them to join your church. She tells us stories of trapping kids in the McDonald's PlayPlace, getting guns pulled on her, and we read through a soulwinning textbook that teaches how to witness to a Jewish person! We hope you enjoy!Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social TikTok: @LeavingEdenPodcast @SadieCarpenter1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we discuss what the early church actually was, and how Christianity was formed as much by Paul as it was by Jesus.Citations for claims about the authorship of the bible:Tabor, J. D. (2013). Paul and Jesus: how the Apostle transformed Christianity. Simon & Schuster.Tabor, J. (2025, June 10). The quest for the historical paul. Biblical Archaeology Society. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode we discuss the history of (small f) fundamentalism and how it became (capital F) Fundamentalism that we see today.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this reintroduction episode, we discuss how cults work with examples from Sadie's life.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Part 3 of our series on Mary Cosby, we discuss the theological reasons why people believe that she is god. We discuss the direct link between Mary Cosby and Jim Jones. We also discuss the sketchiness surrounding the businesses owned by her and her church, the church's organization, and how its hard turn into a coercive cult was inevitable.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the fall of 2024, we contributed to a streaming documentary focused on Faith Temple Pentacostal church in Salt Lake City Utah, and its first lady, Mary Cosby, who is a cast member on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. This documentary was released by TLC as "Cult of the Real Housewife." Our contributions to this documentary were not included, and we believe that this documentary did a disservice to its audience by not going into detail on the SHOCKING things that we found.Stay tuned for Part 3!Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we are joined by Dinah House-Fire and Chad Harris to give out the Gifts of the Spirit awards! This awards are based on the gifts of the holy spirit and given to individuals who embodied these gifts throughout the year. These awards include: The Wisdom Award The Knowledge Award The Faith Award The Healing Award The Miracles Award The Prophecy Award The Discernment Award The Tongues Award The Interpretation Award! We hope you guys had a good time with us this year and we can't wait to see you next year! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we discuss the future of the podcast, we read a letter from a listener who was doxxed by Libs of Tiktok, and we discuss the latest study about religious observance in the United States from Gavi's favorite Pew Researchhttps://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/12/08/religion-holds-steady-in-america/Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we catch up with some fundie influencers, including Morgan Olliges, who has recently released an online course about how to cope with a husband that leaves you alone in the wilderness, Karissa Collins many spellings and pronunciations of Yahoosooshooahaha, and Kelly Havens new e-commerce business.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we discuss the recent expose on Riley Gaines, the former University of Kentucky swimmer who has become the face of the anti-trans women in sports political agenda. While Gaines is no doubt a talented swimmer, the story that she told of victimization at the hands of U Penn's Lia Thomas was largely fabricated. However, this story became a divisive issue that helped propel Donald Trump to a second presidential term.https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/riley-gaines-anti-trans-lia-thomas-ncaa-trump/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUl8lkuGOchttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Now available to patrons: Thank You For Giving To The PodSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!In this episode, we cope with our serious disappointment over our current situation (don't worry we will tell you guys eventually when we figure out what it is that we are doing next) by hanging out with Chad Harris and making up some FAKE news stories that COULD have been our big announcement (these stories aren't real)We hope you guys like this, and if you don't we also understand because we didn't really want to record last week either, but we had a good time.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we discuss attending upcoming Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays with MAGA or right wing/conservative family members, as well as some best practices for keeping the peace and keeping your own sanity.Now available to patrons: Thank You For Giving To The PodSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.