Kubernetes Podcast from Google

Tim Hockin is a long term software engineer with Google Cloud and I would argue one of the fathers of Kubernetes. Brandon Royal is a product manager on GKE and has been behind the launch of multiple OSS projects like the Ray Operator for k8s, Agent Sandbox and our topic for today - Agent Substrate.   Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: [email protected] - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com   News of the week Kubernetes 1.37: Garhwal Kubernetes Podcast: Kubernetes 1.37 with Dipesh Rawat Kubernetes release & maintenance information: https://kubernetes.io/releases/ BOMHort Google Open Source Blog: Adapting open source practices to an AI-first world: A retrospective on 2025 Kubernetes-security-announce Google Group Kubernetes CVE RSS Feed Links from the interview Agent Substrate on GitHub Agent Sandbox Kubernetes Checkpoint & Restore Working Group spiffe.io HashiCorp Blog: SPIFFE: Securing the identity of agentic AI and non-human actors Links from the post-interview chat Kubernetes Podcast: Agent Sandbox and Lovable, with Jonathan Grahl

Dipesh Rawat is a Software Developer at IBM, CNCF Ambassador, CNCF Kubestronaut and SIG Docs Tech Lead. A contributor across multiple Kubernetes release cycles, he serves as the Release Lead for Kubernetes v1.37.   Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: [email protected] - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com   News of the week CNCF Announces Kubeflow's Graduation, Solidifying a Standard for Cloud Native AI Operations CNCF Announces Graduation of Cloud Native Buildpacks, Advancing the Standard for Container Builds Gateway API v1.6: TCPRoute and UDPRoute Graduate to Standard KubeCon EU CFP Links from the interview Kubernetes v1.37: Garhwal Kubernetes 1.37 Sneak Peak Blog

Niki Manoledaki is a Staff Platform Engineer at Grafana Labs, A CNCF Ambassador and Green Software Foundation Champion, and a core maintainer of Project Kepler. We explore the recent rewrite of Project Kepler and the challenges of measuring sustainability in the era of AI. Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: [email protected] - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com News of the week Confidential Containers becomes a CNCF Incubating Project KEP-5972 Dynamic Pod Mutation: Optimistic Execution & Hierarchical Resource Delegation RedHat - Introducing asago: Open source AI safety and governance orchestration Asago on GitHub Asago website KubeCon NA 2026 Schedule CNCF Blog: Welcome CoHDI to the CNCF: Evolving Kubernetes into composable disaggregated infrastructures Links from the interview Project Kepler on GitHub CNCF Blog: Kepler, re-architected: Improved power accuracy and a community call to action! Green Software Foundation "Building Green Software" by Anne Currie, Sarah Hsu, Sara Bergman Grafana Labs Blog: How Grafana Labs switched to Karpenter to reduce costs and complexities in Amazon EKS GreenIO New York Conference AI Energy Score Initiative on Hugging Face Dr Sasha Luccioni's:  Power hungry processing: Watts driving the cost of AI deployment?

In this episode, Kat Cosgrove (SIG Docs Technical Lead, SIG Release Subproject Lead, and Steering Committee member) and Natali Vlatko (SIG Docs Co-Chair, Steering Committee member for the TODO Group, and Open Source Architect at Cisco) join hosts Kaslin Fields and Abdel Sghiouar to discuss the newly published Kubernetes AI usage policy. We dive into the legal and administrative reasoning behind the policy—including why AI tools cannot legally sign the Contributor License Agreement (CLA) or co-author PRs—and explore how maintainers manage the influx of "AI slop" PRs, spam comments, and restricted AI note-taker bots in community meetings. The discussion highlights the balance between human accountability and AI as an enhancer, while sharing actionable advice on how new contributors can sustainably get involved with SIG Docs, issue wrangling, and the Kubernetes Release Team. Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: web: kubernetespodcast.com mail: [email protected] twitter: @kubernetespod bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com News of the week Apple Native Container Tool for macOS 1.0: Apple has shipped version 1.0 of its native container tool for macOS. Built in Swift specifically for Apple Silicon, it departs from traditional shared-VM setups like Docker Desktop by isolating every single Linux container inside its own dedicated micro-VM using the native macOS Virtualization framework. Read more on Cloud Native Now. Google OpenRL: Google launched OpenRL, a new open-source project designed to streamline the training and reinforcement learning loops of large language models. The tool brings declarative, Kubernetes-style resource orchestration concepts to the messy process of AI model fine-tuning. Read more on Cloud Native Now. CNCF Welcomes New Members: At KubeCon CloudNativeCon India, the CNCF announced they added 14 new members, end Users, and non-profit organizations, highlighting the continued growth of the Cloud Native Ecosystem. One of the new members is Loveable, who was a recent guest on the show. We highly recommend you go listen to Episode 268 about the Agent Sandbox. Read the full announcement on PR Newswire. Is a Pod the Right Deployment Unit for an AI Agent?: Lin Sun from Solo published a community post on the CNCF blog questioning whether the classic Kubernetes Pod primitive is still the best abstraction for hosting autonomous, long-running AI agents and introducing Agent-substrate, a project attempting to bring a solution to the table. Read more on the CNCF Blog. Links from the interview Kubernetes AI Usage Policy – Read the community's official guidelines and rules for AI-assisted contributions. TODO Group Steering Committee – A Linux Foundation project bringing OSPO professionals and enthusiasts together. Contributor License Agreement (CLA) – Standard agreement required for all human contributors, which AI agents cannot legally sign. Kubernetes SIG Docs – Get involved with the documentation community. SIG Docs Style Guide – Learn the style guidelines for contributing to Kubernetes docs. Kubernetes SIG Release – Details on how to get involved with the release cycle. Links from the post-interview chat Linus Torvalds on AI LinkedIn Post – Torvalds' clarification on using AI as a helper tool rather than writing kernel C++ code. Devoxx– A popular developer conference in Europe Prowbot GitHub Repo – Kubernetes' main CI/CD bot handling PR automation.

In this episode we speak to Jonathan Grahl.  Jonathan is the Team Lead of Infrastructure at Lovable where he oversees the platform stack the company runs on. We talked about Kubernetes, Sandboxes and Chocolate.   Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: [email protected] - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com   News of the week OpenTelemetry is a CNCF Graduated Project CNCF TAG Elections KubeCon India Kubernetes Community Days global events Links from the interview Lovable Cilium Etcd Cloudflare Sandbox Agent Sandbox (Kubernetes) OpenClaw Claude OpenAI Bun toolkit for Javascript gVisor Firecracker Kata Containers Vitess