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Rob Reiner directed some of the most beloved films in American history. On December 14, 2024, he and his wife Michele were stabbed to death in their Brentwood home. Their daughter found the bodies. Their son Nick was arrested that night.



This podcast covers the case from arrest through trial — but the real story starts seventeen years earlier.



Nick Reiner went to rehab at fifteen. By nineteen, he'd been through seventeen programs. Homeless in three states. Heroin. Meth. His parents had every resource imaginable — money, connections, access to the best treatment in the country. They followed the protocols. They trusted the experts. They did everything right by the system's standards.



And the system gave them nothing.



Because here's what nobody wants to say out loud: in America, if your adult child is addicted, mentally ill, or dangerous, your legal options are essentially zero. You can beg. You can pay. But you cannot force treatment. Their autonomy is protected. Your safety is not.



The Reiners lived that nightmare for almost two decades. It ended the way these stories sometimes do — with two people dead and a family destroyed.



This isn't true crime as entertainment. No breathless narration. No shock-jock nonsense. Just rigorous, fact-based coverage with legal experts, former prosecutors, defense attorneys, and behavioral analysts breaking down the evidence, the strategy, and the questions that actually matter.



We're following this case because it exposes something broken in how we handle mental illness, addiction, and families in crisis. The Reiners had every advantage. It didn't save them.



New episodes as the case develops.




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Two cases. Two different outcomes. One shared question the system still can’t answer. In California, police say they moved quickly after Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner were found stabbed to death — confident they had enough evidence to arrest their son, Nick Reiner, within hours. The legal fight now centers on schizophrenia, medication changes, and whether mental illness excuses violence. In Kentucky, the opposite happened. Everyone saw Mickey Stines unravel — law enforcement, attorneys, medical professionals. But because he was an elected sheriff, no one had the legal authority to stop him. No red flag law. No suspension power. No override. Judge Kevin Mullins paid the price. In this full episode, retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer connects the dots between these cases and exposes the dangerous gaps in how the system handles mental illness when violence intersects with power, family, and authority. We explore how investigations unfold, how insanity defenses are built and challenged, and why prevention often fails not because people didn’t care — but because the law gave them no tools to act. These aren’t isolated tragedies. They’re warnings. And until the system changes, they won’t be the last. #TrueCrime #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #MentalHealthAndCrime #SystemFailure #NickReiner #MickeyStines #FBIAnalysis #TrueCrimeNews Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Nick Reiner was diagnosed with schizophrenia years ago. He was in treatment. Expensive treatment. According to multiple reports, his medication was changed just weeks before his parents were stabbed to death. His defense attorney, Alan Jackson — fresh off a major acquittal in another high-profile case — is already calling this case “very complex.” Translation: the insanity defense is coming. But insanity is not a diagnosis — it’s a legal standard. In California, the question is narrow and brutal: did the defendant understand what he was doing, and did he know it was wrong? In this episode, we walk through what an insanity defense actually requires, and why it’s far harder to prove than many people assume. We examine how being actively in treatment can cut both ways, how medication changes factor into legal responsibility, and why post-crime behavior — hotel stays, travel, attempts to clean up evidence, calm public behavior — creates serious hurdles for the defense. We also discuss Nick’s court appearance in a suicide prevention smock, the delayed arraignments, and a sealed medical order signed by the judge. What’s happening behind closed doors? Competency evaluations? Psychiatric holds? Strategic positioning? Finally, we explore the most painful layer of all: when the victims and the defendant are part of the same family. How does accountability work when mental illness is real — but so is violence? This isn’t about sympathy versus punishment. It’s about where the law draws the line. #NickReiner #InsanityDefense #Schizophrenia #TrueCrimeAnalysis #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #MentalHealthAndCrime #LegalBreakdown #TrueCrime Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
By the time Romy Reiner walked into her parents’ Brentwood home Sunday afternoon, it was already over. Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner had been stabbed multiple times in their master bedroom. Their son, Nick Reiner, was gone. Investigators believe the killings happened hours earlier — giving Nick time to leave the house, check into a Santa Monica hotel, and eventually wander near USC, where he was arrested calmly at a gas station that night. The murder weapon hasn’t been recovered. The hotel room Nick reportedly stayed in was partially cleaned before police arrived. And yet law enforcement says the weapon itself is of “limited investigative value.” That statement alone tells you how confident investigators already are. In this segment, retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer breaks down how cases like this are built when the suspect is gone and the clock is already ticking. We examine what matters most in those first hours, how investigators reconstruct movement and intent, and what Nick’s post-offense behavior — from hotel activity to his calm demeanor on surveillance footage — could signal legally. We also look at witness accounts from the night before, including reports of a tense argument between Nick and his father at a holiday party, and concerns from Rob and Michele that they couldn’t safely leave their son alone. These details aren’t side notes — they’re puzzle pieces. This is about what the evidence says now, before the defense narrative takes over. And why police believe they already have enough to move forward with first-degree murder charges. #NickReiner #RobReiner #TrueCrime #CrimeSceneAnalysis #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #BrentwoodCase #FBIAnalysis #TrueCrimeNews Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke, who ran the Bureau's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, joins us to analyze two cases that expose how predatory and crisis behavior escalates inside families while the people closest to it feel powerless to intervene. First, the Nick Reiner case. The son of legendary director Rob Reiner now faces two counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of both his parents at their Brentwood home. Dreeke examines the disturbing timeline that emerged in the hours before the killings: erratic behavior at Conan O'Brien's holiday party, repetitive questioning of celebrities like Bill Hader and Jane Fonda, an explosive public argument between father and son, and Nick's reported four a.m. check-in to a Santa Monica hotel where staff later discovered blood-soaked sheets and a shower full of blood. We discuss what these behavioral patterns reveal about escalation and crisis states, and what this tragedy exposes about the limits of intervention even when families see catastrophe coming. Then we turn to the JP Miller indictment. A federal grand jury just charged the Myrtle Beach pastor with cyberstalking and making false statements to investigators in connection with his wife Mica Miller, who died in April 2024. According to the indictment, Miller posted intimate photos of her online without consent, placed tracking devices on her vehicle, contacted her over fifty times in a single day, and lied to federal investigators about sabotaging her car. Sworn affidavits describe years of coercive control, isolation, and surveillance. Two civil lawsuits now accuse Miller of sexually assaulting minors in the late 1990s. And another death looms over the case: Chris Skinner, a quadriplegic veteran who drowned in 2021 after allegedly confronting Miller about an affair. Dreeke breaks down the manipulation tactics, the warning signs, and what it takes to stop predators who hide behind family and faith. #NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #JPMiller #MicaMiller #RobinDreeke #FBI #TrueCrime #BehavioralAnalysis #BrentwoodMurders #JusticeForMica #CoerciveControl #HollywoodTragedy #MentalHealthCrisis #CriminalPsychology #SolidRockChurch #FBIExpert #TrueCrimePodcast #FamilyViolence #PredatorBehavior Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Nick Reiner had access to the best psychiatric care money could buy. A $70,000-a-month facility. Doctors managing his schizophrenia. Parents who never gave up on him. And he allegedly threw it all away — choosing drugs over medication, manipulation over honesty, and ultimately violence over everything his family tried to give him. For years, Rob Reiner publicly criticized the treatment industry. He said the experts were wrong. He said he should have listened to Nick instead of the people with diplomas on the wall. But here's the hard truth: the professionals were right. Nick was the one lying. Nick was the one refusing to comply. Nick was the one whose choices made treatment impossible — not because the system failed, but because he wouldn't let it work. Sources say his medication was changed weeks before the killings. But medication only works if you take it. Sobriety only works if you stay sober. Nick didn't. According to sources, his drug use was worsening his schizophrenia. He was "out of his head" — not because doctors failed him, but because he kept making the choices that put him there. Michele Reiner told friends, "We've tried everything." She had. They both had. But you can't save someone who won't stop sabotaging their own recovery. And you can't protect yourself from someone who's been manipulating you for seventeen years. Nick Reiner is facing two counts of first-degree murder. Sources say an insanity defense is coming. But insanity doesn't erase the years of choices that led to that bedroom in Brentwood. #RobReiner #NickReiner #MicheleSingerReiner #TrueCrime #Accountability #MentalHealth #Addiction #BrentwoodMurder #Justice #ReinerMurders Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Where does accountability end and illness begin? That's the question at the center of the Nick Reiner case — and it's one a jury will have to answer. Nick Reiner is facing two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances for allegedly stabbing his parents Rob and Michele Reiner to death in their Brentwood home. The death penalty is on the table. Their daughter reportedly found the bodies. Nick was arrested hours later near USC after reportedly checking into a Santa Monica hotel. This isn't a simple case. Nick Reiner has a documented, two-decade history of severe addiction. He entered rehab at fifteen. By twenty-two, he'd been through seventeen treatment programs. He's spoken openly about meth, heroin, manipulation, and violence. His father directed a film about his addiction. Rob Reiner once said: "I'd rather you hate me than be dead in the street." Nine years later, he's dead. Allegedly at that son's hands. Prosecutors will argue premeditation. The argument at a Christmas party the night before. The timeline. The behavior after the killings. A man who allegedly fled the scene, got a hotel room, and never called 911. The defense has already signaled "complex and serious issues" — code for mental illness, addiction, diminished capacity. They'll argue a brain destroyed by decades of substance abuse couldn't form the intent required for first-degree murder. But here's the harder question nobody wants to ask: What do we do with people who've been given every resource, every intervention, every second chance — and still end up here? When does illness become incompatibility with society? Death row. Life without parole. Or something less. Where do you think this should land? #NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #ReinerCase #TrueCrime #MurderTrial #DeathPenalty #Addiction #CriminalJustice #Justice Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins us to analyze the behavioral red flags in the Nick Reiner case—the son of legendary director Rob Reiner who now faces two counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of both his parents. In this exclusive interview, Dreeke examines the disturbing timeline that emerged in the hours before Rob and Michele Reiner were found dead in their Brentwood home: the erratic behavior at Conan O'Brien's star-studded holiday party, the repetitive questioning of celebrities like Bill Hader and Jane Fonda, the explosive public argument between father and son, and Nick's reported 4 a.m. check-in to a Santa Monica hotel where staff later discovered blood-soaked sheets and a shower full of blood. Dreeke explains what these behavioral patterns reveal about escalation, crisis states, and why families often see catastrophe coming but feel powerless to intervene. We discuss what Nick's calm courtroom demeanor might indicate, what defense attorney Alan Jackson's careful language could be signaling, and what this tragedy exposes about the limits of what even wealthy, well-connected families can do when an adult child refuses help. This case has shaken Hollywood and sparked a national conversation about mental health, addiction, and the impossible choices parents face. Dreeke brings decades of experience reading human behavior under pressure—and his analysis cuts through the noise to help us understand what went wrong and why. If you're following the Reiner case, this is essential viewing. Subscribe for continuing coverage as this case moves through the legal system. #NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #TrueCrime #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #BrentwoodMurders #HollywoodTragedy #MentalHealthCrisis #CriminalPsychology Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner were stabbed to death in their Brentwood home on December 14th, 2025. Their 32-year-old son Nick has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances — charges that carry the death penalty in California. Defense attorney Alan Jackson says there are "very complex and serious issues" in this case. The DA's office is asking the public not to rush to judgment. So what's really going on here? In this interview, defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down both sides of this case — how prosecutors will try to secure a first-degree conviction and possibly the death penalty, and how the defense will fight back using Nick Reiner's documented history of severe addiction and mental health crises. We examine the special circumstances allegation, the knife enhancement, and the reported argument between Nick and his father at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party the night before the killings. The coroner still hasn't confirmed time of death — and that matters. Nick Reiner entered rehab at 15. By 22, he'd cycled through 17 treatment programs. He's spoken publicly about methamphetamine, heroin, homelessness, and psychotic episodes while using. His father Rob directed a film about his addiction called "Being Charlie" and once said: "I'd rather you hate me than be dead in the street." A family friend who saw Nick ten days before the murders described him as healthy and "on the upswing." So what happened? Can addiction and mental illness reduce first-degree murder charges? What does it mean that Nick wasn't medically cleared for his arraignment? And if the death penalty is on the table, what mitigating factors will the defense present? This is the complete legal breakdown from both perspectives — prosecution and defense — so you understand what's actually at stake and how this case will unfold. #NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #ReinerMurder #TrueCrime #MurderTrial #DeathPenalty #CriminalDefense #LosAngeles #BreakingNews Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Nick Reiner's defense attorney Alan Jackson told reporters there are "very complex and serious issues" in this case and urged the public not to rush to judgment. That's not a throwaway line — it's a signal. But a signal of what? In this interview, defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down the defense strategies most likely being developed right now behind closed doors. Nick Reiner has a documented, decades-long history of severe drug addiction. He entered rehab at 15. By 22, he'd been through 17 treatment programs. He's spoken publicly about methamphetamine, heroin, homelessness, and violent episodes while using — including destroying everything in his parents' guest house during a drug-fueled breakdown. His father Rob Reiner directed a semi-autobiographical film about Nick's addiction called "Being Charlie." In interviews promoting the film, Rob said he told his son: "I'd rather you hate me than be dead in the street." The family's struggle with Nick's addiction was painfully public for years. So how does the defense use that history without appearing to blame the victims? Can a documented pattern of addiction and mental health crises reduce first-degree murder to second-degree — or even manslaughter? What does it mean that Nick wasn't medically cleared to appear at his initial arraignment? We also examine what happens if prosecutors pursue the death penalty. What mitigating factors will the defense present? And how effective are addiction and mental illness arguments in California capital cases? This is Part 2 of a two-part series. Watch Part 1: The Prosecution's Case for the full picture. #NickReiner #RobReiner #ReinerCase #TrueCrime #CriminalDefense #MentalHealth #Addiction #CaliforniaLaw #MurderTrial #BreakingNews Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner were found stabbed to death in their Brentwood home on December 14th, 2025. Their son Nick Reiner has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances — charges that carry the possibility of the death penalty in California. In this interview, defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down exactly how the Los Angeles District Attorney's office will build their case against Nick Reiner. We examine the special circumstances allegation, the deadly weapon enhancement, and what prosecutors need to prove to secure a first-degree conviction. We also discuss the reported argument between Nick and his father at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party the night before the killings — and whether that incident helps or hurts the prosecution's timeline. The coroner still hasn't confirmed time of death, and that gap matters more than most people realize. DA Nathan Hochman made an unusual statement asking the public to rely only on official sources and wait for evidence to come out in court. Eric explains what that restraint signals about how this case is being handled at the highest levels — and why the death penalty decision will involve input from the surviving Reiner family members. Nick was arrested without incident near USC hours after the bodies were discovered and reportedly checked into a Santa Monica hotel that same night. Does that suggest consciousness of guilt? Or does it complicate the narrative prosecutors want to tell? This is the first of a two-part series examining both sides of this case. Subscribe and turn on notifications for Part 2: The Defense's Case. #NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #ReinerMurder #TrueCrime #MurderCharges #DeathPenalty #LosAngeles #CriminalJustice #BreakingNews Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Here's what no one wants to say out loud: Rob and Michele Reiner probably knew they were in danger. Friends say Michele had been confiding for months that Nick's mental health was deteriorating. Neighbors say there had been violent incidents before. The night before their deaths, Nick got into a screaming argument with his father at a Christmas party. Everyone saw the signs. No one could legally do anything about it. In the United States, you cannot force a competent adult into treatment. You cannot commit someone because you believe they're dangerous. You have to wait until the danger becomes imminent — which usually means you have to wait until someone gets hurt. Rob and Michele Reiner lived inside that impossible gap for eighteen years. And then the gap killed them. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins us to examine the systemic failures that leave families like the Reiners without options. We discuss what parents can actually do legally when an adult child is spiraling — and where their authority ends. We look at why the threshold for involuntary commitment is so high that families often recognize danger years before the law will act. We ask hard questions about whether the rehab industry itself can make certain patients worse. And we talk honestly about what would need to change for cases like this to have different outcomes. This isn't about assigning blame to a grieving family. It's about understanding why our system forces parents to choose between respecting autonomy and protecting themselves — and why that choice shouldn't exist. #RobReiner #MentalHealthLaw #TrueCrime #SystemicFailure #InvoluntaryCommitment #FamilyViolence #ShavaunScott #MentalHealthReform #AddictionCrisis #CrimePsychology Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob and Michele Reiner spent nearly two decades trying to save their son Nick from addiction. They sent him to rehab seventeen times. They let him live in their guesthouse. They made a movie together about his struggles. And when counselors warned them that Nick was lying and manipulating them, they eventually rejected that advice — publicly apologizing for ever believing the professionals over their own son. Now Rob and Michele are dead, allegedly stabbed by Nick in their Brentwood home the night after a Christmas party where they'd asked the host if they could bring him just to keep an eye on him. This isn't a story about demonizing people in addiction. It's about understanding how addiction rewires family systems — how the people who love an addict the most can become the most vulnerable to manipulation, enabling, and ultimately, danger. It's about how boundaries aren't abandonment. How love without limits can become the weapon used against you. And how sometimes, the only way to survive is to walk away — even when every instinct tells you to stay. The Reiners had every resource imaginable. Money. Connections. Access to the best treatment programs in the country. None of it was enough. Because there's no amount of money that can force an adult to get sober. There's no love powerful enough to override someone's autonomy when they're using that autonomy to destroy themselves — and you. This is the story of what happens when parents refuse to give up. And what it cost them. #RobReiner #NickReiner #MicheleReiner #TrueCrime #Addiction #FamilyTragedy #Brentwood #BeingCharlie #MentalHealth #Manipulation Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob Reiner didn’t ignore his son’s struggles — he built a movie around them. He talked openly about the guilt, the missteps, the decades of trying. Michele carried the emotional weight of nearly 20 years of crisis. They were present, involved, and doing everything our system tells families to do. And still, they were left defenseless. In part two, former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke explains the darkest truth: families are often fully aware someone is dangerous — but the law ties their hands. Parents cannot force an adult child into long-term treatment. They cannot limit their movements. They cannot compel medication. Without a documented, immediate threat, the system defaults to the rights of the individual — not the safety of the family. We explore: – How chronic crisis distorts judgment but also eliminates legal options – Why guilt, hope, and fear coexist in families trapped by mental-health laws – How caregivers often become targets because they are the safest emotional outlet – Why brutality in familial murders reflects years of psychological deterioration – The painful reality that love does not override a broken system This isn’t a story about blind parents. It’s a story about a system built to wait until the worst happens — and only then allows intervention. #ReinerMurders #RobinDreeke #TonyBrueski #HiddenKillers #MentalHealthCrisis #FamilyViolence #SystemicFailure #TrueCrimePodcast #ParentalGuilt #LegalLimitations Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob and Michele Reiner spent eighteen years trying to save their son. Seventeen rehab facilities. A feature film about his addiction. A guest house on their property so they could watch over him. And still, on December 15th, 2025, they were found stabbed to death in their Brentwood home. Nick Reiner, 32, has been charged with their murders. This isn't a case about parents who didn't see it coming. It's about parents who saw it coming for nearly two decades and couldn't stop it. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott has spent thirty years working with families in crisis, perpetrators of violence, and people trapped in cycles of addiction and mental illness. She's the author of "Nightbird" and "The Minds of Mass Killers," and in this interview, she breaks down what was likely happening inside the Reiner family long before that final night. We discuss why Nick's own words — that his drug use was never about the drugs, but about "killing the noise" — reveal something critical about what treatment was missing. We examine what happens to parents psychologically when they've exhausted every resource and still live in proximity to a volatile adult child. We look at why wealth and access to the best facilities offered essentially no protection. And we explore the warning signs that families often see but can't bring themselves to act on — because acting means treating your own child as a threat. If you've ever wondered how a family can do everything right and still end up here, this conversation offers uncomfortable answers. The Reiners aren't a cautionary tale about neglect. They're a cautionary tale about the limits of love when you're up against something love can't fix. #RobReiner #NickReiner #TrueCrime #FamilyViolence #AddictionRecovery #MentalHealthCrisis #ShavaunScott #Parricide #CrimePsychology #HollywoodTragedy Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Nick Reiner is in custody right now, accused of taking the lives of both of his parents inside their Brentwood home. The night before, witnesses say he got into a screaming confrontation with his father Rob Reiner at a holiday party. By Sunday afternoon, Rob and Michele Reiner were gone — reportedly discovered by their own daughter Romy. Nick Reiner is 32 years old. He has been in and out of treatment programs since he was fifteen. He's experienced homelessness. He's struggled publicly with addiction and severe mental health issues for most of his adult life. His parents talked about it openly. They made a documentary about their attempts to help him. Michele Reiner reportedly told friends recently that they had tried everything. And here's the part that should infuriate every family watching this — in California, "everything" doesn't include the one thing that might have actually made a difference. You cannot force an adult into treatment. Not even when they're clearly in crisis. Not even when they're deteriorating in front of you. Not even when you have unlimited resources and access to the best care in the country. You have to wait until something terrible happens. California has 5150 psychiatric holds. It has a new program called CARE Court. None of it works the way families need it to. The holds are too short. The programs have no enforcement. Meanwhile, people in crisis cycle through emergency rooms and back onto the street while their families watch helplessly. This episode breaks down what options families actually have under current law, why those options consistently fail, and what's likely coming next in this case. #RobReiner #NickReiner #MentalHealthCrisis #CaliforniaLaw #FamilyTragedy #5150Hold #CARECourt #MentalHealthReform #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob Reiner was 78 years old. His wife Michele was 68. And on the last night of their lives, they brought their 32-year-old son Nick to a Christmas party at Conan O'Brien's house because they needed to "keep an eye on him." That's not parenting. That's surveillance. That's what the mental health system in America leaves families with when their adult children are in crisis — no legal authority, no institutional support, no options. Just proximity. Just hoping your presence is enough to keep things from going sideways. It wasn't. Less than 24 hours later, Rob and Michele were dead. Throats slit. Found by their daughter in a home decorated for Christmas. Nick Reiner had been struggling since he was a teenager. First rehab at 15. Seventeen treatment programs by age 19. Homeless in three different states. His parents threw everything they had at the problem — money, connections, access to the best programs in the country. Michele told friends in recent months: "We've tried everything." They had. For 17 years. And the system gave them nothing in return. In America, if your adult child is mentally ill, addicted, or dangerous, your options are essentially zero. You can beg them to get help. You can pay for treatment. But unless they meet a narrow legal threshold — "imminent danger to self or others" — you cannot force them to accept care. Their autonomy is protected. Your safety is not. The Reiners lived this nightmare for nearly two decades. They followed the protocols. They trusted the experts. They did everything right by the system's standards. And the system still failed them — because it's designed to manage liability, not treat illness. This video is a deep dive into how America's mental health laws turn families into hostages. How the deinstitutionalization movement of the 1960s emptied psychiatric hospitals without replacing them with anything better. How jails became our largest mental health facilities. And how families like the Reiners are left to manage impossible situations with no training, no authority, and no way out. The Reiners had every advantage. It didn't save them. Until we reform a system that prioritizes philosophy over outcomes, it won't save anyone else either. #RobReiner #MentalHealthCrisis #MentalHealthReform #TrueCrime #MicheleSingerReiner #NickReiner #Addiction #MentalIllness #FamiliesInCrisis #Deinstitutionalization #5150 #HostageFamilies #SystemFailure #MentalHealthAwareness Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Rob and Michele Reiner didn’t die because the red flags went unnoticed. They died because everyone noticed — and still couldn’t do a thing about it. The night before the murders, Nick and Rob had a public, explosive argument at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas party. Guests heard it. People saw it. And yet, 24 hours later, the worst happened anyway. Why? Because in America, when an adult struggles with severe mental illness, addiction, and escalating instability, families have almost no authority to intervene unless the person voluntarily agrees to treatment — or commits an act of violence. Former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke breaks down exactly why this system traps families: – Why visible behaviors don’t meet the legal threshold for forced intervention – Why “he’s dangerous” is meaningless without documented, imminent threat – How parental proximity blinds judgment and legally limits action – Why decades of escalating instability still don’t equal legal authority Robin explains that this wasn’t about missed signs — it was about a system designed to protect autonomy over safety, leaving families desperate and powerless. If you’ve ever loved someone spiraling and felt there was nothing you could legally do… this conversation hits hard. #ReinerCase #NickReiner #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #TonyBrueski #MentalHealthSystem #TrueCrimePodcast #ThreatAssessment #SystemicFailure #FamilySafety Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Director Rob Reiner and his wife Michele Singer Reiner were found dead in their Brentwood, Los Angeles home on Sunday, December 14, 2025. Authorities are investigating the deaths as a double homicide. According to People Magazine, citing multiple sources, the couple's 32-year-old son Nick Reiner is allegedly responsible. Both victims reportedly suffered stab wounds. Their daughter Romy discovered the bodies. Rob Reiner was 78. He won two Emmys playing "Meathead" on All in the Family before becoming one of Hollywood's most celebrated directors. His filmography includes This Is Spinal Tap, Stand By Me, The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, Misery, and A Few Good Men. His final film, Spinal Tap II, was released earlier this year. Michele Singer Reiner, 68, was a photographer who met Rob on the set of When Harry Met Sally. They married in 1989 and had three children: Jake, Nick, and Romy. Rob once said meeting Michele inspired him to change the film's ending so the characters end up together. Nick Reiner has spoken publicly about his struggles with addiction, which began in his teens. He first entered rehab at 15 and cycled through more than a dozen treatment programs. In 2016, he co-wrote the semi-autobiographical film Being Charlie with his father about his experiences with addiction and recovery. LAPD has not officially named a suspect. The investigation is ongoing. We'll update as more information becomes available. Hashtags: #RobReiner #MicheleSingerReiner #NickReiner #BreakingNews #TrueCrime #Hollywood #AllInTheFamily #ThePrincessBride #WhenHarryMetSally #LAPD
Rob Reiner and his wife Michele Singer Reiner were found dead in their Brentwood home on Sunday, December 14, 2025. Both had their throats slit. Their daughter Romy discovered the bodies and immediately told police that a family member was responsible — and that he was "dangerous." Hours later, their 32-year-old son Nick Reiner was arrested near USC and booked on suspicion of murder. He's now being held without bail. But here's what makes this story even more disturbing: the night before the killings, Rob, Michele, and Nick attended a Christmas party at Conan O'Brien's house. Witnesses say Nick was acting erratically — staring at people, interrupting conversations, freaking out guests. Then he got into a loud argument with his father. Loud enough for the whole party to hear. Rob and Michele left afterward. Less than 24 hours later, they were dead. Nick Reiner has a documented history of severe drug addiction going back to age 15. He went through 17 rehab programs. He was homeless in three different states. In 2015, he co-wrote a semi-autobiographical film with his father called Being Charlie about his struggles with addiction. Rob Reiner called it the most personal project he ever made. Sources say Michele had been telling friends for months that she and Rob were at their "wits' end" with Nick's mental health and substance abuse issues. Her words: "We've tried everything." This is a story about a Hollywood legend, a family in crisis, and a system that gives parents almost no options when their adult children are spiraling. The Reiners had money, connections, and access to the best treatment available. None of it was enough. In this video, we break down everything we know — the timeline, the party, the arrest, Nick's history, and what comes next as the case heads to the LA County District Attorney. #RobReiner #MicheleSingerReiner #NickReiner #Brentwood #Hollywood #TrueCrime #BeingCharlie #ConanOBrien #LAPD #BreakingNews #CelebrityCrime Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
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