Tripping Over Love

In this episode of Tripping Over Love, Courtney and Keith sit down with Cindy DiTiberio, writer of "The Motherlode" on Substack, to talk honestly about divorce, desire, psychedelics, and the systems that shape women's lives. Cindy shares how MDMA-assisted therapy intersected with the end of her marriage, why she believes sex is not a duty, and how patriarchy surreptitiously governs marriage, motherhood, and women's bodies. Together, they explore Christian purity culture, midlife awakening, libido, resentment, and why so many women are questioning the promises they were given. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

Relationships don't fall apart because people don't love each other — they fall apart because old wounds start running the show. In this episode of Tripping Over Love, we sit down with Rabbi Shlomo Slatkin, a couples therapist and Imago clinician, to unpack why the smallest moments — an interruption, a correction, a tone — can trigger outsized reactions in long-term relationships. Oh, and we bring a real argument from our own relationship into the conversation and let the good Rabbi break it down for us. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

Most relationship advice on the internet has one solution: leave. Too attached? Leave. Not attached enough? Leave. Read something unsettling about your partner? Definitely leave. In this episode of Tripping Over Love, Courtney and Keith pull real questions straight from Reddit—the ones people usually panic over in silence. An avoidant partner who can't say "I love you."  A spouse who reads something they were never meant to see.  A marriage shaken by jealousy, criticism, and things that can't be unread or unheard. Instead of rushing to conclusions, they slow the moment down and ask the harder questions: What actually makes a relationship crack? When does curiosity help—and when does it quietly make things worse? And how often do we create the very distance we're trying to fix? Nothing in this episode is theoretical. These are the conversations people are already having—just without the s*** storm that usually happens irl. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

In this episode of Tripping Over Love, Courtney and Keith sit down with historian Peggy O'Donnell, author of Without Children: The Long History of Not Being a Mother, to explore why the question of having—or not having—children remains so emotionally charged. This conversation looks at the historical, political, and cultural forces that shape how women are judged for motherhood, childlessness, or choosing not to have children at all. Peggy explains how debates about abortion, birth control, feminism, and social policy are deeply connected—and why these issues feel especially heated right now. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

In this episode of Tripping Over Love, Courtney and Keith sit down with Betty Martin, author of The Art of Receiving and Giving, to explore intimacy, consent, desire, and the often-overlooked challenge of receiving. Betty shares the framework behind the Wheel of Consent, a powerful somatic model that helps people understand who an experience is for, how giving and receiving actually work, and why so many couples struggle with sex, desire, and communication—even when they love each other deeply.  This conversation goes beyond legal or verbal consent to explore: - Why receiving is more vulnerable than giving - How low libido often develops from unspoken compromise - The difference between touch, sexual connection, and connection - Why "going along with it" quietly kills desire - How consent dynamics show up at home, at work, and in everyday life  Whether you're in a long-term relationship, navigating intimacy after burnout or resentment, or simply curious about healthier communication around touch and desire, this episode offers grounded, practical insight. 🔗 Learn more at wheelofconsent.org and bettymartin.org READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

In this episode of Tripping Over Love, we sit down with Paul Gilmartin, comedian and host of The Mental Illness Happy Hour, for an honest conversation about relationships, vulnerability, and emotional maturity. We talk about what has to be unlearned to build healthier relationships—letting go of escalation, expressing feelings without blame, and releasing the idea that it's your job to change your partner. We explore how fear, avoidance, and humor can get in the way of intimacy, and why learning to sit with anger, confusion, and discomfort can actually bring people closer.  READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

What happens when rigorous pharmacology meets spirituality, psychedelics, and lived experience? In this episode of Tripping Over Love, we sit down with Ben Malcolm, a psychiatric pharmacist known as The Spirit Pharmacist, to explore the real-world questions people have about psychedelics—safety, medications, risk, set and setting, and why education matters more than hype. Ben shares his personal journey from Australia to the U.S. to Costa Rica, how psychedelics shaped his professional path, and why he believes informed, ethical guidance is essential as interest in these substances continues to grow. We discuss ayahuasca, psilocybin, MDMA, ketamine, neuroplasticity, spirituality in psychiatry, and what the future of psychedelic medicine may look like. This conversation is educational in nature and focused on helping people think more clearly, safely, and responsibly about altered states and mental health. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC

What if stress—not communication—is the real reason relationships fall apart? In this episode of Tripping Over Love, Courtney Corona and Keith Miller sit down with Elizabeth Earnshaw, licensed marriage and family therapist and bestselling author of 'Till Stress Do Us Part: How to Heal the #1 Issue in Our Relationships, to talk about how modern stress quietly erodes even strong, loving relationships. Liz explains why couples often think they have a communication problem when what they really have is an unfinished stress cycle. Together, they unpack how dual careers, parenting, unclear roles, and chronic pressure create emotional distance — even when both partners are trying their best. If you've ever thought, "We love each other… so why is this so hard?" — this episode is for you. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/

As an award-winning journalist and author of "I Feel Love: MDMA and the Quest for Connection in a Fractured World," Rachel Nuwer has spent years covering MDMA's role in the psychedelic renaissance happening around us. Notably, she covered the aftermath of the FDA's 2024 rejection of Lykos Therapeutic's MDMA-assisted PTSD therapy and the role an advocacy group—Psymposia—may have played in the FDA's final decision. We discuss the blowback she received around her New York Times piece specifically from Psymposia and why says she's ready to move on from reporting on MDMA. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/ Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TrippingOverLovePodcast/

Today we're talking all things Internal Family Systems (IFS) with therapist, teacher, and host of The One Inside, Tammy Sollenberger — one of the most trusted voices in the IFS community. We explore how IFS transforms communication, conflict, and the way we love — including a live, unscripted moment where Keith turns toward a "part that needs to be right" during arguments. IFS can feel abstract until you hear it in practice — and this episode brings it fully to life. Tammy walks us through parts work in real time, breaks down protector dynamics, and shares how to use parts language to lower defensiveness and stay connected during conflict. If you've ever wondered why you contradict yourself, why you shut down in arguments, or how grief and new love can coexist inside one person… this conversation will make you feel deeply understood. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW YouTube (full video): www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/ Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TrippingOverLovePodcast/

In today's episode of Tripping Over Love, we sit down with Dr. John Krystal—Chair of Psychiatry at Yale and one of the pioneers behind ketamine's use in treating depression. If you've ever wondered how ketamine actually works, why it's so different from SSRIs, what happened with MDMA's FDA rejection, or whether esketamine is truly better than IV ketamine…this is the episode. Dr. Krystal explains: How ketamine became the first rapid-acting antidepressant Why it works when nothing else does The real difference between IV ketamine and esketamine (Spravato) How few people with treatment-resistant depression actually receive ketamine Why supervised clinical use is essential What the future of mental health treatment looks like (next-gen ketamine & non-hallucinogenic psychedelics) We also talk openly about our own mental health journeys—including how ketamine changed Keith's life and inspired the founding of a ketamine-assisted therapy clinic. This episode blends science, safety, personal experience, and the emerging landscape of psychedelic medicine. Subscribe for new episodes on relationships, psychedelics, and how to live with more presence, honesty, and self-leadership. If you or someone you love is in crisis, call 988. Watch Full Video: www.youtube.com/@TrippingOverLove Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tripping-over-love/id1850974406 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yl3TNTfBM1TutbETEKYNC Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/ Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: Tripping Over Love Podcast

This is the first of many behind-the-scenes episodes we're releasing at launch — a completely unstructured, unfiltered, lighthearted ramble recorded during the summer when rhubarb and strawberries are ripe for pie and we hit the ecstatic dance floor, sober-ish. There's no lesson plan. No expert interview. No theme. Just two people laughing at ourselves and talking about everything from rage golf, late-night eating, kambucha recipes that involve climbing the magnolia tree in the yard, pleasing others, and why therapy wasn't working (or was it?) If you want to know what we're actually like off-mic, this is it. Subscribe for more structured episodes… and the occasional meandering romp into our stream of consciousness. Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: Tripping Over Love Podcast

In today's episode of Tripping Over Love, we talk with Dr. Tammy Nelson — sex therapist, author of Getting the Sex You Want and Open Monogamy, and one of the most influential voices in modern sexuality and relationships. Tammy joins us to talk about why couples struggle with sex and communication, open monogamy and the continuum of commitment, how to rethink monogamy in a digital age, what porn, kink and sex-tech are teaching us about intimacy, what therapists get wrong about sex, how ketamine and psychedelics accelerate relational healing, how menopause and perimenopause are misrepresented, and why pleasure remains one of the most radical forms of healing. This conversation covers sex, desire, psychedelics, monogamy, trauma, and long-term relational repair — with Tammy's signature blend of clarity, warmth, and zero shame. JOIN OUR SUBSTACK https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/ FOLLOW US Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TrippingOverLovePodcast/    

What really happens inside an open marriage, beyond the fantasies, fears, and assumptions? Author Molly Roden Winter joins us to share the raw truth behind her memoir "More: A Memoir of Open Marriage," including jealousy spirals, boundary mishaps, sex that worked (and sex that very much didn't), and the emotional renovations that reshaped her 26-year marriage. Molly talks about the early chaos of opening her relationship, the surprising ways dating men differed from dating women, why rules always break before you do, and how she and her husband grew, built, and redefined trust. She also opens up about her psilocybin journey, forgiveness, what monogamy means after 17 years open, and why desire often has more to do with honesty than novelty. If you're curious about non-monogamy, wrestling with jealousy, or wondering what open marriage actually looks like outside of social media narratives, this conversation is real, funny, and disarmingly human. JOIN OUR SUBSTACK https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/ FOLLOW US Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast TikTok: @trippingoverlove Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TrippingOverLovePodcast/

I'm launching Tripping Over Love on Tuesday, November 25th. It's the podcast about breakups, breakdowns, and breakthroughs. We're Courtney Laydon, former journalist, and Keith Miller, a marriage and IFS therapist who found each other while tripping over love.  We ask one big question: What if the secret to lasting love isn't getting it right… but getting real? Next week, we're launching our first four episodes—and they're a ride: Molly Roden Winter on open marriage, jealousy, honesty, and why real intimacy is way less "sexy" and way more human. Dr. Tammy Nelson on sex, intimacy, psychedelic healing, and how ketamine can open more than just your mind. Dr. John Krystal, one of the inventors of intranasal ketamine, on the future of psychedelic medicine And wild stories from the Keith and Courtney dating experiences...including one that became "ecstatic" and opened Keith up to the kind of dance parties he missed out on as a teen Tripping Over Love is not a podcast about perfect love. It's about conscious love—the kind that asks you to laugh, feel, grow, and sometimes completely fall apart. Subscribe now. The mess begins next week. READ + LISTEN + FOLLOW  Substack: https://trippingoverlove.substack.com/  Instagram: @trippingoverlovepodcast  TikTok: @trippingoverlove  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TrippingOverLovePodcast/