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Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk winter storms, snow blowers, and autonomous yard work before diving into the real topic: AI agents gone wild. They debate why Ralph Wiggum loops don't actually work, whether context pollution is killing productivity, the rise and fall of MCP servers and skills, and why vanilla Claude might be the only tool you actually need. Along the way, they cover anchor positioning failures, Stranger Things hot takes, and why small distilleries are just like indie startups.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:43) - Whiskey rating & review: Old Forester Statesman
(09:15) - Winter storm Fern, snow blowers, and autonomous lawn care
(11:55) - Fixing Swach: Intel vs ARM builds and Rosetta translation hell
(18:55) - Why AI workflows feel inconsistent and token-hungry
(20:58) - Open Code Black, burning tokens, and hitting limits fast
(26:51) - Claude max, Warp subscriptions, and the cost of unlimited AI
(29:02) - The swipe gesture task no LLM can finish
(31:26) - Why view transitions and web components confuse AI
(35:15) - Deleting MCP servers, skills, and going back to vanilla Claude
(37:22) - Ember MCP skills and teaching AI modern frameworks
(40:58) - Shopify's agent MDs, MCP servers, and CI failure bots
(42:48) - Why context pollution makes AI dumber
(46:45) - Ralph Wiggum loops: brute force until art appears
(48:50) - Running Claude inside Warp and why it's tight
(52:57) - Code mods, observables, and iterative AI workflows
(54:46) - CascadiaJS 2025: emceeing, vibes, and smaller conferences
(57:12) - Bouncy scroll is finally coming to Chrome
(58:26) - The FLIP technique, anchor positioning, and morphing animations
(01:00:10) - Why anchor positioning failed at Shopify
(01:05:00) - Code debt vs code value: when does resilience become a burden?
(01:08:00) - Stranger Things finale, Fallout season 2, and distillery vibes
Links
Old Forester Statesman: https://www.oldforester.com/
Kingsman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)
Swach: https://www.swach.io/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Oh My Opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode
GSD (Get Shit Done): https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter
MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
React: https://react.dev/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning
FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/
View Transitions API: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API
Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/
Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/
Ember Animated: https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated
CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/
Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/
Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things
Fallout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)
Two Bar Spirits: https://www.twobarspirits.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
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This week, Robbie and Carlo sip Sagamore's 10-year reserve rye and catch up with Carlo on life abroad, AI coding workflows, the changing developer landscape, and why cars, whiskey shipping, and property management are all equally frustrating. They dig into agentic AI loops, the rise of prompt-driven development, whether coding by hand is officially dead, and what happens when tools like OpenCode and Claude become the new normal.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:43) - Whiskey rating & review: Sagamore 10 Year Reserve Series
(09:15) - Shipping whiskey to Italy and the hidden cost of imports
(11:55) - Why Sagamore's standard offering might still be the best
(18:55) - Drinking less whiskey, more wine, and raising kids
(20:58) - Car shopping struggles and why bench seats don't exist anymore
(26:51) - Chinese EVs, the Ford Mach-E, and waiting for the Scout
(29:02) - Astro acquired by Cloudflare
(31:26) - Data centers, water usage, and eminent domain
(35:15) - Have you run a Ralph loop yet?
(37:22) - OpenCode, Claude, and which AI models actually work
(40:58) - Why fresh context matters and polluted sessions fail
(42:48) - Are we all tech leads now?
(46:45) - Will prompt bros replace engineers?
(48:50) - The death of pretty code and why craft doesn't matter to machines
(52:57) - Building a color picker in Rust with OpenCode
(54:46) - Why Swach is suddenly so slow
(57:12) - Should you move from Electron to Tauri?
(58:26) - Claude Co-Work and connecting AI to your file system
(01:00:10) - Vibe Kanban and automating GitHub issues
(01:02:00) - Why food was better before we modified everything
(01:05:00) - Property nightmares and IRS liens
(01:08:00) - The Steam Machine and the future of gaming
Links
Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/
Astro: https://astro.build/
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Matt Pocock - Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8
Swach: https://www.swach.io/
Tauri: https://tauri.app/
Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
Napi-rs: https://napi.rs/
GitHub: https://github.com/
ClickUp: https://clickup.com/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Python: https://www.python.org/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Wayland: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
Steam Deck: https://www.steamdeck.com/
11.22.63: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Whistle Pig's Liquid Death collaboration and debate whether we've accidentally deleted programming itself. They dig into the shift from code-first to spec-first development, whether TypeScript still matters in an AI-driven world, the rise of agency over specialization, and why the future might belong to prompt-driven tinkerers instead of traditional developers.
Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:43) - Whiskey rating & review: Whistle Pig x Liquid Death Gravestock
(07:21) - Automating tasks with AI: the chicken and egg problem
(11:12) - Building a whiskey episode art generator with Swift and AI
(17:02) - Libraries that ship specs instead of code
(22:24) - Is TypeScript still worth it in an AI-first world?
(29:06) - Converting Shepherd from Svelte to Solid for bundle size
(34:44) - Why code matters less and outcomes matter more
(42:42) - Comparing OpenCode, Warp, Cursor, and Windsurf
(50:38) - The rise of agency: tinkerers over specialists
(54:46) - Getting into physical goods and local farming
(57:12) - Why booze, nicotine, and fun are all down
(01:00:10) - Plugs
Links
Whistle Pig Gravestock: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/
Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Swift: https://www.swift.org/
Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/
Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/
Swach: https://www.swach.io/
CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning
FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/
Paul Lewis: https://aerotwist.com/
Want My MTV: https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/
Fuse TV: https://www.fuse.tv/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk about the ethics and economics of AI, and why “stealing with extra steps” feels like the right metaphor for where things are headed. They dig into open source burnout, whether AI replaces developers or just reshapes the job, how tooling and multi-agent systems fit in, and whether the future belongs to niche expertise—or just better prompts.
Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:56) - Whiskey rating & review: Old Forester 1897
(04:50) - Music taste, Spotify ages, and feeling old
(07:29) - Is AI just stealing with extra steps?
(19:09) - Ralph vs. Gastown and the rise of agent chaos
(28:04) - What is an AI harness?
(31:36) - How to stay valuable in an AI-shaped future
(36:25) - Does vibe coding feel as satisfying?
(39:47) - Is the web heading somewhere dark?
(42:02) - Cursor wars, animations, and UX pet peeves
(48:48) - Will GitHub projects go full Vibe Kanban in 2026?
(54:41) - Holiday reflections and unplugging
(58:18) - Staying up late and old routines
(01:00:00) - Remembering Robbie’s dog
(01:00:58) - 2026 plans, goals, and resolutions
Links
Old Forester: https://www.oldforester.com/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/
Teddy Swims: https://www.teddyswims.com/
Post Malone: https://www.postmalone.com/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Grok: https://grok.com/
Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
Gas Town: https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown
Ralph: https://github.com/snarktank/ralph
Claude: https://claude.ai
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Matt Pocock - Ship working code while you sleep with the Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8
Python: https://www.python.org/
Oh-my-opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode
Bolt: https://bolt.new/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Same: https://same.new/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
Expedition 33: https://www.expedition33.com
Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny
Anything: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034
Swach: https://www.swach.io/
Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
Swift: https://www.swift.org/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
The Polar Express: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film)
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/
CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
CSS Day: https://cssday.nl/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam bring you the holiday edition of Whiskey Web and Whatnot: random whiskeys, Christmas hot takes, and dev debates. They discuss AI agents, guardrails, prompt-driven development, and whether we’re drifting toward a world where code matters less than outcomes.
Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey
In this episode:
(00:00) Intro
(02:15) Whiskey selections
(07:43) Christmas Hot Take: Real tree vs fake tree
(12:14) Christmas Hot Take: White lights vs colored lights
(15:07) What everyone's watching right now
(17:55) What is Ball Pit?
(19:58) Video games everyone's playing
(21:58) Chuck's overseas shipping challenges
(23:09) The modern grocery store experience (and why Chuck refuses to “work there”)
(28:18) Are types dead in an AI-first dev world?
(45:53) Disney giving money to OpenAI
(47:57) Netflix acquiring Warner Bros… what?
(48:35) Are AI tools actually worth the cost?
(51:30) Just-in-time apps: the future of the web?
(54:39) Living in Italy + the language barrier
(57:50) Adam’s food analogy: web platform vs React apps
(58:15) Fast food tier list
(01:00:06) Adam's banjo Christmas tunes
Links
The Nightmare Before Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park
Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/
Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things
Sean Combs: The Reckoning: https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780
50 Cent: https://x.com/50cent
Today Show: https://www.today.com/
Ball Pit: https://www.ballxpit.com/
Breakout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game)
Risk of Rain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/
Nintendo Switch: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/
FIFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)
GOG: http://Gog.com
Luna: https://luna.amazon.com/
Rue Valley: https://ruevalley.com/
Memento: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US
Uncharted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted
Whole Foods: https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/
Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Vite: https://vite.dev/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Disney: https://www.disney.com/
Sora: https://openai.com/sora/
Studio Ghibli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Scarlett Johansson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson
Harry Potter: https://www.harrypotter.com/
Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/
React: https://react.dev/
Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
KFC: https://www.kfc.com/
Bob's Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_Burgers
Garth Brooks: https://www.garthbrooks.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety.
Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:49) - Meet Will Johnson
(02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Jameson Triple Triple
(07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge
(09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences
(11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security)
(16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks
(18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too?
(19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue
(20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters
(25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why)
(27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food?
(27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here?
(29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development?
(31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used
(32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured
(35:47) - Passkeys explained
(41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will
(43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth
Links
Auth0: https://auth0.com/
Jameson Triple Triple: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/
Three Sheets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets
Jack Daniel's Reserve: https://www.jackdaniels.com/
Google Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
KPop Demon Hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters
Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/
NSYNC: https://nsync.com/
B2K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K
Chris Brown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown
Netflix: https://netflix.com
Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/
Moana: https://movies.disney.com/moana
Dak Prescott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott
React: https://react.dev/
Oreo: https://www.oreo.com/
jQuery: https://jquery.com/
Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp
BlingBlingjs: https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs
Astro: https://astro.build/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Laravel: https://laravel.com/
Egghead: https://egghead.io/
Grok: https://grok.com/
1Password: https://1password.com/
Google Zanzibar: https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/
AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/
Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/
Connect with Will
Website: https://auth0.com/ai
X / Twitter: https://x.com/willjohnsonio
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk about holiday travel chaos, parenting stress, and health scares before diving into AI-assisted coding, Linux quirks, IDE trends, burnout in open source, and more.
In this episode:
- (00:00) - Intro
- (02:07) - Whiskey rating & review: Flaviar & Jack Daniels
- (06:02) - Stress gummies, holiday chaos, and why Robbie is fried
- (13:05) - Adam on pulling back, burnout, and choosing quality over quantity
- (21:02) - Second pour: Flavia SirDavis American Whisky
- (21:23) - Building color tools for fun (and sanity)
- (21:51) - Is React actually holding us back?
- (25:16) - Food, culture, and building with the platform
- (27:19) - The worst IDE idea ever
- (31:00) - Vibe-coding an iOS app… on iOS
- (32:39) - Where AI still completely fails
- (34:02) - OpenAI vs. Gemini and the shifting AI landscape
- (34:56) - Editors, agents, and AI overload
- (38:34) - Space toggles in CSS and weirdly powerful tricks
- (42:14) - Are AI tools getting more scatterbrained?
- (44:20) - Perspective when everything feels heavy
- (46:20) - Learning new skills without burning out
- (48:03) - Curiosity is a survival skill
- (48:40) - Working through hard seasons in life
- (54:14) - TV shows, distractions, and mental breaks
- (54:46) - Robbie vs. Lego ordering (again)
- (56:05) - Adam’s exhausting travel run
- (57:07) - Why kids are basically walking germs
- (58:26) - Adam’s Beyond Tellerrand talk
- (59:13) - Advent of Code
**Links**
- Flaviar Bhakta Golden Age Blend: https://flaviar.com/products/bhakta-1928-golden-age-blend-750
- Flavia SirDavis American Whisky: https://flaviar.com/products/sirdavis-american-whisky-750
- Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye
- Whiskey Web and Whatnot live episodes from All Things Open 2025: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7uiIY_6TPL-iREDcpUVndAZaz118OE-h
- Olly Stress Gummies: https://www.olly.com/
- Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar: https://flaviar.com/pages/advent-calendar
- Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/
- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
- Adam's blog post - An Update On My Involvement In Standards: https://nerdy.dev/update-on-my-involvement-in-standards
- Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
- Swach: https://swach.io/
- Chrome EyeDropper API: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/capabilities/web-apis/eyedropper
- Linux: https://www.linux.org/
- Wayland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(protocol)
- GNOME: https://www.gnome.org/
- KDE: https://kde.org/
- C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp
- Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
- Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
- Antigravity: https://antigravity.google/
- Adam's color component: https://github.com/argyleink/css-color-component
- theCHIVE: https://thechive.com/
- Preact: https://preactjs.com/
- React: https://react.dev/
- Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
- Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld
- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
- Ember: https://emberjs.com/
- OpenAI: https://openai.com
- Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
- Nano Banana: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/
- Claude: https://claude.ai/
- Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
- Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
- Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
- Big Pickle: https://opencode.ai/docs/zen/
- Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
- Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things
- Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier
- Wednesday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_(TV_series)
- LEGO: https://www.lego.com/
- WebGL: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API
- Advent of Code: https://adventofcode.com/
- Figma: https://www.figma.com/
- Adam's Beyond Tellerrand talk: https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/berlin-2025/speakers/adam-argyle
**Connect with the hosts**
- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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This week, Robbie and Chuck sip Jack Daniel’s Single Barrel Rye, and discuss why SOC 2 compliance is a painful but necessary sign of company maturity. They also dig into AI coding tools, React fatigue, and the growing frustration of modern developer workflows.
In this episode:
(00:00) – Intro
(01:43) – Whiskey rating & review: Jack Daniel’s Single Barrel Rye
(09:15) – Why SOC 2 compliance is a painful rite of passage
(11:55) – AI-powered workflows and where they break down
(18:55) – Do we still need new frameworks?
(20:58) – Framework fatigue and the React hangover
(26:51) – The reality of building browser extensions
(29:02) – Is Firefox dead?
(29:19) – Who AI-powered browsers are actually for
(31:26) – Why shipping software on Windows is such a mess
(35:15) – Juggling operating systems and hardware setups
(37:22) – Are ultra-expensive PC components actually worth it?
(40:58) – Shipping Swatch across platforms and dealing with Snap
(42:48) – The “Tacolate,” Taco Bell experiments, and questionable food ideas
(46:45) – What is a Bimby cooker?
(52:57) – Robbie’s septic system saga
Links
Jack Daniel’s Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/single-barrel-rye
Winter Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games
World Cup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Grok: https://grok.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Open Router: https://openrouter.ai/
Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
v0: https://v0.dev/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Replit: https://replit.com/
ShadCN: https://ui.shadcn.com/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
React: https://react.dev/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
HTMX: https://htmx.org/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/
Express: https://expressjs.com/
Omarchy: https://omarchy.org/
Swatch: https://swatch.dev/
Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows
Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
Apple: https://apple.com
Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
Firefox: https://www.firefox.com/
Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/
Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/
LG 5k Display: https://www.lg.com/us/collections/5k-monitors
Apple XDR Display: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
Snap: https://snapcraft.io/
Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
Bimby Cooker: https://www.thermomix.com/
Vitamix: https://www.vitamix.com/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Ep 218: How to Build a Career When the Rules Keep Changing w/ Taylor Desseyn & Jason Torres: https://whiskey.fm/how-to-build-a-career-when-the-rules-keep-changing-w-taylor-desseyn-jason-torres
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk about Halloween vibes, excellent scotch, and the strange state of modern web development. After rating an Orphan Barrel single malt, they dig into AI coding workflows, agent tools, why one-shot prompts so often fail, and more.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:24) - Whiskey rating & review: Orphan Barrel Woven Honor
(07:21) - How AI is (and isn’t) fitting into real dev workflows
(12:01) - The Louvre heist and why bold ideas sometimes work
(17:02) - Anthropic Skills and the future of AI tooling
(19:21) - Why Warp feels like a killer terminal
(20:43) - OpenCode vs. Warp for everyday development
(21:29) - Connecting Cursor and Claude
(22:17) - Navigating AI tools at work
(24:45) - Why AI struggles to follow instructions
(29:51) - Using web components with Preact signals
(30:39) - Are modern web tools over-engineered?
(31:48) - Cucumber, specs, and English as code
(33:43) - Naming the CSS masonry layout problem
(43:32) - Squash vs. merge and automating away the noise
(48:50) - SEO, AIO, and visibility in the age of AI
(53:07) - Does AI understand podcasts at all?
(53:21) - A fun CSS @important alternative
(54:22) - Don't ignore ESLint in PRs
(55:37) - Why gatekeeping helps no one
(57:12) - Don't be afraid to ask for help
(58:04) - Halloween plans
(01:00:10) - Plugs
Links
Orphan Barrel Woven Honor: https://www.orphanbarrel.com/
Ep 223: The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano: https://whiskey.fm/the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w-david-k-piano
Nikka Whisky: https://www.nikka.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Python: https://www.python.org/
Beyond Tellerrand: https://beyondtellerrand.com/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Astro: https://astro.build/
Gamma: https://gamma.app/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Preact: https://preactjs.com/
Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/
Android: https://www.android.com/
Cucumber: https://cucumber.io/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
Docker: https://www.docker.com/
Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/
CSS Grid: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Sass: https://sass-lang.com/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Prettier: https://prettier.io/
ESLint: https://eslint.org/
Ep 212: TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards: https://whiskey.fm/talkshop-show-w-macho-man-randy-standards
Front End Happy Hour Podcast: https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/
ShopTalk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/
Syntax: https://syntax.fm/
We Might Be Drunk: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/
CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/
Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin
Zombies Ate My Neighbors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia
Wayne's World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne's_World_(film)
Super Mario: https://mario.nintendo.com/
Vite: https://vite.dev/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk with David K. Piano about state machines, the chaos of overusing React hooks, Tailwind controversies, AI agents, security risks in emerging AI tooling, and why determinism still matters. They also chat about pianos, creativity, and finding grounding outside of tech.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:40) - Whiskey rating & review: Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt
(06:54) - Hot Take: Is useState still dead to David?
(08:34) - Hot Take: Was class-based React better?
(11:12) - Tailwind tip: Don’t sleep on child selectors
(14:47) - Hot Take: Are HTML & CSS programming languages?
(17:42) - Is Tailwind " the worst state management library"?
(22:24) - How a “simple boolean” exploded into a state tree
(24:13) - Debouncing, guarding, and timing transitions in state machines
(25:28) - Hot Take: Rails or Laravel
(26:19) - Why batteries-included frameworks struggle in JavaScript
(29:06) - Will AI push developers toward opinionated frameworks or away from them?
(34:44) - What Claude Skills are and why they matter
(36:47) - The newest AI hacks and whether you should be worried
(42:42) - Why David loves state machines (and how they keep AI on the rails)
(50:38) - David's love for the piano and having a non-tech hobby
(51:45) - What David would do if not in tech
(52:22) - Does playing an instrument make you a better programmer?
(57:39) - Plugs
Links
Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt: https://www.nikka.com/
Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old
React Summit: https://reactsummit.com/
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
Angular: https://angular.dev/
Backbone: http://backbonejs.org/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp
Astro: https://astro.build/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Laravel: https://laravel.com/
Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
Python: https://www.python.org/
Phoenix: https://www.phoenixframework.org/
Elixir: https://elixir-lang.org/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Tom Preston-Werner: https://x.com/mojombo
RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/
PHP: https://www.php.net/
Remix: https://remix.run/
Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin
Claude Skills: https://claude.com/blog/skills
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
The "lethal trifecta" in AI browsers: https://bsky.app/profile/f3rmi.bsky.social/post/3m3oe4ky4us2c
OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/
Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
Comet: https://www.perplexity.ai/comet
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Node: https://nodejs.org/
Deno: https://deno.com/
Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Vite: https://vite.dev/
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
Ep 200: The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller & Rishi Malik: https://whiskey.fm/the-one-rye-to-rule-them-all-w-kendall-miller-rishi-malik
Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com
Parasite Eve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Eve_(video_game)
Stately: https://state.new/
Connect with David
Website: https://stately.ai/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/DavidKPiano/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Erik Thorelli and Hendrik Krack from CodeRabbit about how they’re rethinking AI-powered code review, why focus beats feature-bloat, the value of transparency, and how CodeRabbit reduces cognitive load for developers while keeping humans meaningfully in the loop.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(00:45) - Wine rating & review
(01:43) - What is CodeRabbit?
(05:31) - How CodeRabbit actually works: ASTs, tools, and sequence diagrams
(09:20) - Open source: free usage, real-world configs, and community behavior
(15:05) - What makes CodeRabbit different from other AI code tools
(24:57) - Customizing CodeRabbit
(32:53) - What's next for CodeRabbit?
(39:55) - Where to learn more about CodeRabbit
Links
CodeRabbit: https://www.coderabbit.ai/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
iTerm: https://iterm2.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Cursor Bugbot: https://cursor.com/bugbot
Daneil Roe: https://roe.dev/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
React: https://react.dev/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Parks and Recreation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation
Go: https://go.dev/
Bun: https://bun.com/
Zig: https://ziglang.org/
Mitchell Hashimoto: https://x.com/mitchellh
HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/
Silicon Valley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)
OpenAI Dev Day: https://openai.com/devday/
WWDC: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/
Assistant UI: https://www.assistant-ui.com/
Connect with Erik
Website: https://www.coderabbit.ai/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/esthor
Connect with Hendrik
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/HKrackDev
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Bdougie (Brian Douglas) about open source’s impact on their careers, the legacy of OpenSauced, and why developer tools succeed—or don’t. They dive into Git philosophy, editor wars, AI’s sometimes-chaotic influence on coding, and how strong frameworks like Rails still shape the ecosystem.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:11) - Wine rating & review: Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon
(02:46) - The rise and fall of OpenSauced
(03:28) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge
(03:59) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
(04:17) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(04:53) - Hot Take: Sidebar on the right or left in VS Code?
(08:15) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel
(12:30) - Who’s really to blame when AI goes wrong?
(15:07) - The impact of open source on Brian’s career
(16:26) - Highlights from Brian's All Things Open talks
(20:28) - Building with TypeScript agents
(30:04) - Light mode vs dark mode
(31:36) - The future of AI coding tools
(46:02) - Tips for new developers
(48:53) - How to evaluate AI-generated content
(50:31) - Iced coffee preferences
(50:56) - Brian's game development project
(51:51) - Plugs
Links
Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon: https://www.joshcellars.com/
OpenSauced: https://opensauced.pizza/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Jason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Neovim: https://neovim.io/
IntelliJ: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
WebStorm: https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
Zed: https://zed.dev/
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Laravel: https://laravel.com/
React: https://react.dev/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Claude Sonnet: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Counter-Strike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike
Rainbow Six Rogue Spear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear
SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/
Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
GraphQL: https://graphql.org/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Claude Haiku: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Ollama: https://ollama.com/
CodeRabbit: https://www.coderabbit.ai/
HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
Slack: https://slack.com/
Heroku: https://www.heroku.com/
Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
Homebrew: https://brew.sh/
RenderATL: https://www.renderatl.com/
Codex: https://openai.com/codex/
IBM Granite: https://www.ibm.com/granite
Dev-end: https://dev-end.com/
Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/
Sniffly.dev: https://sniffly.dev/
Opus: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus
Python: https://www.python.org/
dltHub: https://dlthub.com
DuckDB: https://duckdb.org/
SQL: https://www.mysql.com/
Sora: https://openai.com/sora/
Blue Bottle Coffee: https://bluebottlecoffee.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Conributor.info: https://contributor.info/
Connect with Nick
Website: https://nickyt.online/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/nickytonline
Connect with Bdougie
Website: https://briandouglas.me/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/bdougieyo
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Nick Taylor about Kubernetes mishaps, DevRel life, front-end nostalgia, CSS wizardry, arcade emulators, and why taste and creativity still matter in an AI-accelerated world.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(03:26) - Wine rating & review: Cupcake Prosecco
(09:42) - Casinos, arcades, and emulator nostalgia
(11:45) - Favorite video games and gaming with kids
(16:25) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge
(19:58) - Fellow tech podcasters and community shoutouts
(22:48) - Law & Order appreciation
(24:00) - Life at conferences and returning to ATO
(24:49) - "The Commits" Awards
(26:13) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
(26:24) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(29:20) - AI’s impact on front-end and who still stands out
(32:05) - Nick’s shift from front-end to Kubernetes and security
(36:40) - How efficient is AI really?
(37:55) - Robbie’s experience using AI in daily work
(40:28) - Why no USB-B?
(41:23) - Customizing MCPs vs. following the spec
(44:15) - What Nick would do if not in tech
(45:03) - Plugs
Links
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Monster Energy: https://www.monsterenergy.com/
Laracon: https://laracon.us/
Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
YAML: https://yaml.org/
Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
The Kubernetes Podcast with Nick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Guinness: https://www.guinness.com/
Jolt Cola: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola
del Lago Casino: https://dellagoresort.com/
React: https://react.dev/
NESticle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle
XBOX: https://www.xbox.com/
Super Mario: https://mario.nintendo.com/
NESticle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle
Just Dance: https://justdancenow.com/
Rihanna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna
PS4: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/
Star Wars Battlefront: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront
Lego Fornite: https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey
Clone Hero: https://clonehero.net/
Guitar Hero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero
Analogue Pocket: https://www.analogue.co/pocket
Oculus: https://www.oculus.com/
Meta Quest 3: https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/
Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Neovim: https://neovim.io/
GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/
Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
Terminal.shop: https://www.terminal.shop/
Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/
GitHub Universe: https://githubuniverse.com/
Tomorrow.fm Podcast: https://tomorrow.fm/
Law & Order SVU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit
Vincent D'Onofrio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D'Onofrio
Daredevil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)
Render Conf: https://www.renderatl.com/
So I Married an Axe Murderer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer
HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Ep 120: Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins: https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
Jason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Web Dev Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
McAfee: https://www.mcafee.com/
1Password: https://1password.com/
Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/
Ep 217: Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones: https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones
Kubernetes the Hard Way: https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way
Sam Altman: https://x.com/sama
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Goose: https://block.github.io/goose/
MCP Dev Summit: https://mcpdevsummit.ai/
Playwright: https://playwright.dev/
Connect with Jason
GitHub: https://github.com/jasonetorres
X / Twitter: https://x.com/TasonJorres
Connect with Nick
Website: https://nickyt.online/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/nickytonline
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Roxy Rodriquez-Becker about her journey from educator and librarian to aspiring developer, the community supporting her transition, navigating motherhood and advocacy, and how her son’s medical challenges inspired her to build a life-changing G-tube feeding app.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Working Edit
(01:03) - Wine rating and review: San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon
(02:35) - Meet Roxy
(03:04) - From teaching and libraries to tech
(05:38) - How Roxy is learning to code
(06:24) - Inside the “Chosen One” series
(07:35) - The support systems behind Roxy's move to coding
(09:14) - Navigating a public job hunt and being in the spotlight
(11:30) - Roxy’s advice for getting out of your comfort zone
(12:43) - Roxy’s background in content creation
(14:35) - How Roxy juggles parenting, work, and learning to code
(16:51) - How her son’s medical journey inspired the Tube Feed app
(28:03) - Why advocating for yourself is harder than advocating for others
(30:00) - What pulled Roxy back into tech
(32:01) - Growing up Cuban and Catholic
(35:30) - How Roxy's upbringing shapes how she raises her kids
(36:33) - Why Roxy chose software engineering specifically
(38:33) - Robbie's biggest strength and biggest weakness
(39:27) - Guilty pleasure TV shows
(40:43) - What success looks like for Roxy
(42:41) - Where to find Roxy online
Links
San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon: https://www.sansimeonwines.com/
Costco: https://costco.com
Tube Feed: https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/
Magnolia Conf: https://magnoliaconf.com/
freeCodeCamp: https://www.freecodecamp.org/
#100Devs: https://100devs.org/
Chosen One: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Torc: https://torc.dev
Roxy's Treating LinkedIn Like a Blog: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Law & Order SVU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit
NBC Peacock: https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock
Below Deck: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck
The Real Housewives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives
The Bachelor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)
Love Island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)
Connect with Jason
GitHub: https://github.com/jasonetorres
X / Twitter: https://x.com/TasonJorres
Connect with Roxy
Website: https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/roxanacodes
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie talks with Taylor Desseyn and Jason Torres about the future of tech careers, AI’s impact on hiring, and why relationships still matter more than résumés. They share insights from years in recruiting and community building, stressing that genuine connection—not cold applications—opens doors in today’s market.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:48) - A toast to Busch Light
(05:46) - Meet Taylor and Jason
(08:14) - Is now a good time to get into tech?
(13:12) - How AI is reshaping the tech job market
(16:07) - Standing out in a crowded industry
(20:36) - Can open source help you get hired?
(23:48) - Will Shane Beamer head to Virginia Tech?
(25:13) - Do pro athletes really make too much money?
(26:47) - Should politicians be paid like CEOs?
(30:43) - What it means to be an authentic creator
(34:07) - How Torc is chasing greatness
(38:01) - Is AI killing organic content growth?
(39:26) - Parenting, perspective, and balance
(42:20) - Where to connect with Taylor and Jason online
Links
Busch Light: https://www.busch.com/
Ep 216: Why Open Source Might Be Your Best Career Move w/ Shruti Kapoor: https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor
Jason Lengstorf: https://jason.energy/
Costco: https://www.costco.com
The Office: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)
Dragonberry Bacardi: https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/
Goldschlager: https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html
Jagermeister: https://www.jagermeister.com/
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/
Guidance Counselor 2.0 podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2
Ep 493 - Pretending to Have The Job Before You Get It w/ Josh Cirre, DevRel @ Laravel: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607
Cobol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL
React: https://react.dev/
X: https://www.x.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com
Discord: https://discord.com
Taylor's All Things Open talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU
Mr. Beast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast
Kai Cenat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
.NET: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/
Java: https://www.java.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Taylor's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn
Slack: https://slack.com/
South Carolina Gamecocks: https://gamecocksonline.com/
Shane Beamer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer
Virginia Tech: https://www.vt.edu/
James Franklin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)
Pennsylvania State University: https://www.psu.edu
LaNorris Sellers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers
Patrick Mahomes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs: https://www.chiefs.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Apple: https://apple.com
Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/
DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Bain: https://www.bain.com/
McKinsey: https://www.mckinsey.com/
Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/
Barstool Sports: https://www.barstoolsports.com/
Syntax: https://syntax.fm/
Sentry: https://Sentry.io/
CodeRabbit: https://www.coderabbit.ai/
Torc: https://torc.dev
Torc Community: https://torc.dev/community
Torc Discord: https://torc.dev/discord
Connect with Taylor
Website: https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn
X / Twitter: https://x.com/tdesseyn
Connect with Jason
GitHub: https://github.com/jasonetorres
X / Twitter: https://x.com/TasonJorres
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf talk with Angie Jones about AI, coding models, and the evolving landscape of open source. They unpack the importance of community-driven tooling, skill gaps in using AI, the future of agentic systems, and why open communities matter in shaping technology.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:18) - Wine rating & review
(03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT
(04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
(04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?
(09:50) - How open source shaped Angie’s career
(14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data
(23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?
(25:10) - Using MCP when you don’t follow every part of the spec
(26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?
(31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape
(36:06) - Conference season stress & preparing new talks
(39:41) - Where to find Angie online
Links
Ep 175: Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones: https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones
Block: https://block.xyz/
MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
Claude: https://claude.ai
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
GooseAI: https://goose.ai/
Sam Altman: https://x.com/sama
Peter Thiel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
Marc Andreessen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com
Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/
Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
DevRelCon: https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/
Angie's keynote at DevRelCon: https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/
Connect with Jason
Website: https://jason.energy/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Connect with Angie
Website: https://angiejones.tech
X / Twitter: https://x.com/techgirl1908
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Recorded at All Things Open 2025, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf chat with developer-turned-creator Shruti Kapoor about her leap from Slack and PayPal to YouTube, the joys and pitfalls of open source, and eternal web dev debates.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:37) - Wine rating & review: Fre Sparkling Brut
(06:33) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge
(09:11) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
(09:41) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(10:20) - Hot take: classes vs. functional components
(11:13) - Hot Take: Remix, TanStack, or Next.js?
(15:02) - Hot Take: console.log vs debugger
(16:11) - Hot Take: Were React server components a mistake?
(20:42) - How open source changed Shruti’s career
(22:23) - The real value of contributing to open source
(26:05) - What is the React Foundation and why it matters
(28:58) - Highlights from React Conf and new features
(31:01) - From Slack engineer to independent creator
(34:34) - Choosing what content to make (and why)
(37:58) - Shruti’s dog, discipline, and life lessons
(40:01) - What would Shruti do if not in tech?
(40:30) - Where to find Shruti online
Links
Fre Sparkling Brut: https://www.frewines.com/
Wes Bos: https://wesbos.com/
Syntax: https://syntax.fm/
Slack: https://slack.com/
PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com
React: https://react.dev/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Remix: https://remix.run/
Astro: https://astro.build/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
GitHub: https://github.com/
React Conf: https://conf.react.dev/
React Foundation: https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation
Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Google Home: https://home.google.com/welcome/
Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
Shruti's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08
16 Common React useEffect Mistakes You’re Making: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI
Connect with Jason
Website: https://jason.energy/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Connect with Shruti
Website: https://shrutikapoor.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/shrutikapoor08
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Naman Goel about the origins and evolution of StyleX, how it integrates with React and other frameworks, and the pros and cons of different programming languages like Rust, TypeScript, and Swift. They dive into the challenges of building performant, type-safe styling systems, the surprising complexity of theme APIs, designing for developer experience, and more.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:26) - Whiskey rating & review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch
(09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers & sleeper hits you missed
(11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript
(14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman’s perspective on type systems
(18:45) - How StyleX works—and why it’s different from Tailwind
(21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown
(22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you’d want to merge styles
(25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system
(32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro
(36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or “spa”?
(40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages
(42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise?
(46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it?
(47:18) - Naman’s journey into writing web specs
(48:44) - What is link delegation?
(52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated?
(01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build
(01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner?
(01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability
(01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX?
(01:07:43) - Plugs & where to follow Naman
Links
Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old
South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park
Dungeons & Dragons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&_Dragons
Alien Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth
Ozark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)
Jason Bateman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman
Black Rabbit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit
Slow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses
Slow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses
Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
StyleX: https://stylexjs.com/
React: https://react.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
Astro: https://astro.build/
QuickJS: https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
Angular: https://angular.dev/
Vanilla Extract: https://vanilla-extract.style/
Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
PHP: https://www.php.net/
Figma: https://www.figma.com/
Theme UI: https://theme-ui.com/
Stitches: https://stitches.dev/
Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Livewire: https://laravel-livewire.com/
Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions: https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/
morphdom: https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom
HTMX: https://htmx.org/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
CSS-Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/
Swift: https://www.swift.org/
Python: https://www.python.org/
C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp
Go: https://go.dev/
esbuild: https://esbuild.github.io/
OCaml: https://ocaml.org/
Prettier: https://prettier.io/
Haskell: https://www.haskell.org/
Elm: https://elm-lang.org/
CoffeeScript: http://coffeescript.org/
LightningScript: https://lightningscript.dev/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier
React Summit: https://reactsummit.com/
Solenoid: https://github.com/nmn/solenoid
Connect with Naman
Website: https://nmn.sh/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/naman34
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam talk about the worst whiskey they’ve tasted, Tailwind as a “state management library,” and recent security scares in open source. Also — dependency hygiene, developer visa drama, and whether inflated tech salaries are finally being reckoned with.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:14) - Whiskey rating & review: Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey
(13:00) - What's with all the recent web dev security issues?
(28:39) - Is Tailwind secretly the worst state management library?
(32:45) - Visa chaos: H-1Bs, gold cards, and reverse immigration
(40:51) - Are tech salaries being intentionally driven down?
(49:45) - Adam’s AI experiment with Claude + Parallelize
(54:09) - Why AI should specialize (and stop trying to do everything)
(54:44) - Best AI tools right now
(01:01:16) - Chuck’s VPN chaos + funny wifi names
(01:04:04) - Plugs
Links
GoDaddy: https://www.godaddy.com/
Bob Parsons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons
Intuit: https://www.intuit.com/
Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey: http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon
Wrigley Chew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company
Bazooka: https://www.bazookajoe.com/
Juicy Fruit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit
Cinnamon Toast Crunch: https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/
Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/
Crown Royal Black: https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black
Suntory World Whiskey Ao: https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky
Fresca Mixed: https://www.frescamixed.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Blockchain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain
pNPM: https://pnpm.io/
Ransom: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/
WordPress: https://wordpress.org
David Cramer: https://x.com/zeeg
Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/
SemVer: https://semver.org/
Google: https://www.google.com/
Snowpack: https://www.snowpack.dev/
Socket.io: https://socket.io/
Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg
Socket.dev: https://socket.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
David K Piano: https://x.com/DavidKPiano
Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
OpenAI: https://openai.com
Amazon: https://amazon.com
Jason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Perl: https://www.perl.org/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
Cobol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL
Jarred Sumner: https://x.com/jarredsumner
Bun: https://bun.com/
Zig: https://ziglang.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Codex: https://openai.com/codex/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Ep 92: Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner: https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner
Neovim: https://neovim.io/
Bolt: https://bolt.new/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Spec Kit: https://github.com/github/spec-kit
South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park
Proton VPN: https://protonvpn.com/
HBO Max: https://www.hbomax.com/
Raspberry Pi: https://www.raspberrypi.com
Stephen King: https://stephenking.com/
Cujo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo
Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/
Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/
Como FC: https://comofootball.com/
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Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Kevin Powell about the quirks and complexities of CSS, from Tailwind and Flexbox to AI’s failure to write decent styles. While sipping some Crown Royal Black, they dig into weird web history, emerging CSS specs, toast milestones, and the beauty of clean code.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:51) - Whiskey rating & review: Crown Royal Black
(07:54) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
(09:54) - Hot Take: Was CSS-in-JS a mistake?
(10:53) - Hot Take: Grid vs Flexbox
(12:31) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS?
(16:05) - Kevin's favorite place to write CSS
(17:45) - What CSS feature scares Kevin the most?
(19:20) - Kevin's first CSS pre-processor
(22:40) - CSS features that are taking too long to ship
(27:22) - text-box-trim vs margin-trim
(29:53) - Why attr() is a game-changer for CSS
(31:18) - NPM package chaos and security concerns
(32:16) - The “billion laughs” CSS attack
(33:19) - Why can't AI write CSS?
(36:52) - Wake-and-bake? Kevin’s sourdough & kombucha hobby
(38:42) - Kevin’s homebrewing and water shortage woes
(40:28) - Hobbies, football, and making time for fun
(42:44) - What would Kevin do if not in tech?
(44:41) - Kevin's favorite CSS typo
(45:58) - Rebuilding Tailwind from scratch
(46:53) - Vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind: Who wins a coding race?
(50:08) - Plugs
Links
Crown Royal Black: https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
General Musings: https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings
Frontend Masters: https://frontendmasters.com/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Figma: https://www.figma.com/
CSS Grid: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp
Flexbox: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Grok: https://grok.com/
CodePen: https://codepen.io/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com
Emmet: https://emmet.io/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
Saas: https://sass-lang.com/
Stylus: https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
CoffeeScript: http://coffeescript.org/
Sarah Soueidan: https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan
Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
Swatch: https://swatch.dev/
Colorzilla: https://www.colorzilla.com/
TinyColor: https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/
CrowdStrike: https://www.crowdstrike.com/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier
Virginia Tech: https://www.vt.edu/
The Eagles: https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/
Saquon Barkley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley
Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/
Kevin on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell
Connect with Kevin
Website: https://www.kevinpowell.co/
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co
Courses: https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/
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Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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