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Growing Your Firm | Strategies for Accountants, CPA's, Bookkeepers , and Tax Professionals
Growing Your Firm | Strategies for Accountants, CPA's, Bookkeepers , and Tax Professionals
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Growing Your Firm is the top podcast for ambitious firm owners to find tips, tactics, and strategies on how to grow their firm (or practice).
In this podcast we'll be interviewing unique thought leaders in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping about topics including: practice management, marketing, social media, succession planning, partner relations, hiring, pricing, and much more.
In this podcast we'll be interviewing unique thought leaders in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping about topics including: practice management, marketing, social media, succession planning, partner relations, hiring, pricing, and much more.
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Are you building a firm to last, or building it to sell? Whether you're a CPA starting a firm or a Managing Partner eyeing retirement, understanding the current M&A (Mergers & Acquisitions) landscape is critical for your largest wealth-generation tool: your practice. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host Dave Cristella sits down with Doug Lewis, Managing Director at The Visionary Group, to pull back the curtain on how buyers are actually evaluating accounting and bookkeeping firms in 2026. From the impact of Private Equity (PE) to the "sticky revenue" of Client Accounting Services (CAS), Doug breaks down the metrics that determine your firm's valuation. In this episode, we discuss: 1. The Shift in Valuation: Why firms are moving away from gross revenue multiples and toward Adjusted EBITDA. 2. The CAS Premium: Why Client Accounting Services and outsourced bookkeeping are trading for higher multiples than traditional audit or tax. 3. The Talent Shortage & M&A: How the pipeline shortage is moving "Talent" to the #1 spot on buyer wishlists. 4. The "Layover Test": Why culture alignment is the first thing that kills a deal (and how to spot red flags early). 5. Internal Succession Stress Testing: What to do when your "locked-in" successors have other plans (like opening a tiki bar in Thailand). 6. Staying Fiercely Independent: Why selling isn't the only path and how to build value even if you never plan to exit. Featured Guest: Doug Lewis Take control of your practice: Optimize your workflow with Jetpack Workflow: https://bit.ly/4bj4a0H 🚀 Sign up for a 14-day free trial to Jetpack Workflow! https://app2.jetpackworkflow.com/auth/login 🚀 Stay Connected: Subscribe for bi-weekly stories from firm owners and modern accounting strategies. 👋 Say hi on social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jetpackworkflow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetpackworkflow Twitter: https://x.com/jetpackworkflow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jetpack_workflow/# 🎙 Listen to Growing Your Firm Podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-your-firm-strategies-for-accountants-cpas-bookkeepers/id923004172 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6MauXYaHFyS0rlb6L3Qb1U Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jetpack-workflow/growing-your-firm
Are you an accounting firm owner, managing partner, or CPA starting a firm who wants to achieve rapid growth without losing your sanity? In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello sits down with Ben Curtis, co-founder and CEO of Good Measure Financial. Ben shares the inside story of how his firm transitioned from a slow, intentional build to adding 4 full-time employees in just 90 days during a massive growth spurt. Whether you are an operations manager looking for better workflow systems or a leader interested in the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), this episode provides a tactical roadmap for scaling a remote-first accounting business. What You'll Learn in This Episode: 1. The 50/50 Partnership Model: How Ben manages a firm with a "fractional" co-founder while maintaining clear role definitions and a healthy 50/50 ownership split. 2. EOS Lite for Accounting Firms: Why Ben uses the Vision Traction Organizer (VTO) and L10 meetings to keep his team of 10 aligned, and what parts of EOS he chose to discard. 3. Capacity & Production KPIs: A deep dive into why Good Measure Financial still tracks time and how they use Effective Hourly Rate and Actuals vs. Budget to protect profit margins. 4. Smoothing the Workflow: Tactics for implementing weekly workflows to eliminate the "peak and valley" stress of month-end close. 5. Founder-Led Sales & Relationship Deposits: How Ben's long-term "relational deposits" led to a flood of new clients from churches and nonprofits.
Burnout is often misdiagnosed as a lack of effort, but the true culprit is usually a lack of infrastructure. From excessive rework to murky processes, operational friction is what actually drains a team. The solution isn't to work harder; it's to transition from an owner-dependent model to a robust operating system that scales without requiring the founder's constant intervention. Get the full breakdown and see the process in action on our blog.
If your firm's growth has hit a plateau, you might be looking for answers in outsourcing or capital infusions. However, Jennifer Wilson suggests a different perspective: the primary constraint facing firm leaders today is the people-power behind the work. Success in the modern landscape is less about the "how" and entirely about the "who." Check out the blog here to learn more.
Discover why industry leaders are feeling more optimistic than ever about the future of professional accounting. This roundtable discussion explores a pivotal shift from a culture of burnout toward one centered on high-value advisory and long-term client success. The experts dive into how emerging technologies like AI can automate compliance tasks and free up practitioners for strategic leadership roles. By embracing modern business models and intentional change management, firms can unlock new opportunities for growth and personal satisfaction.
Matt Gardner scaled Hiline by moving beyond referral-only growth and building systems designed to scale. By niching down, investing ahead of demand, restructuring sales roles, and embracing automation and technology, Hiline created a predictable growth engine that does not rely on founder hustle. Scaling an accounting firm beyond referrals is one of the hardest challenges firm owners face. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, Matt Gardner shares how Hiline grew by niching down, investing ahead of growth, and building a real go-to-market engine instead of relying on referrals or founder hustle. Resources: Matt Gardner's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgardnercpa/n
Growing accounting firms often misdiagnose turnover and capacity issues. Erin Daiber explains why these problems usually start at the partner level, how trust breakdowns create hidden churn, and what firms must fix first before hiring or offshoring. The firms that stabilize fastest focus on leadership alignment, clear expectations, and disciplined workflows. Resources: Erin Daiber's LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/cpacoacherin
On an episode of the Growing Your Firm podcast, David Cristello spoke with William Hamilton IV, founder of SmartPath, about why pricing problems often sit underneath many operational issues firms experience. William has spent more than a decade studying how accounting firms price services and where those models tend to break down. Rather than focusing on theory, the conversation centered on how firms can think more clearly about pricing, packaging, and value in real client situations.
Justine Lackey built a sellable bookkeeping firm by staying hyper focused on one service, one platform, recurring revenue, documented systems, and ethical leadership. Long before selling in 2023, her firm was structured to operate independently, making the transition successful for clients, employees, and buyers. Key Takeaways Focused service offerings help firms stand out in M&A discussions Recurring prepaid revenue improves cash flow stability Standardized systems support smoother transitions Ethical leadership enables better client and team outcomes during exits Reducing owner dependency supports long-term firm continuity
Anderson Petergeorge, co-founder of Quanto, explains how accounting firms can scale from startup to multi-million-dollar operations by using ChatGPT, meeting transcript tools, and modern ledgers. He argues that AI will not replace accountants but empower them to work faster, smarter, and more human. Key Takeaways Firms can reach $1M in revenue using basic AI tools like ChatGPT and meeting note automation. ChatGPT can write its own prompts and streamline advisory workflows. Meeting transcripts are valuable data for training staff and personalizing client experiences. Post-$1M, automation shifts toward system integrations and API connections between ledgers and workflow tools. The most successful firms blend AI efficiency with deep client relationships and niche expertise.
The accounting industry is changing faster than ever. Automation, artificial intelligence, and remote work are rewriting the way firms operate. Yet one principle remains clear: firms that balance technology with human connection will lead the next decade. In this episode of Growing Your Firm, Jetpack Workflow founder David Cristello talks with Ryan Lazanis, founder of Future Firm and one of the industry's most forward-thinking voices. Ryan shares how a personal setback reshaped his approach to business, why human connection matters more than ever, and what accounting firm leaders should focus on in an AI-driven world.
Douglas Slaybaugh began his career in public accounting at Arthur Andersen, where he admits he nearly lost his internship due to chronic lateness. Mentors stepped in and advocated for him, giving him another chance. That early experience showed him how powerful support and mentorship can be. As he advanced through his career and became a partner, Slaybaugh discovered that coaching people brought him more fulfillment than signing audit reports. He developed internal coaching programs for hundreds of employees, focusing on leadership and personal growth. In 2014, he made a bold decision to leave his partner role and launch CPA Coach, helping accounting leaders and executives achieve greater purpose and balance in their work.
Firm as a Service (FaaS) is a model that gives accountants the entire infrastructure of a firm technology, staffing, marketing, and support so they can focus on serving clients and scaling their practice. Unlike traditional partnerships or franchises, FaaS lets accountants retain ownership of their client base while benefiting from shared systems and resources. In a recent Growing Your Firm podcast, David Cristello, Founder of Jetpack Workflow, spoke with Chase Birky, CEO of Dark Horse, about how this approach is reshaping firm ownership.
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes Ben Taylor, CEO of SoftLedger, to discuss the emerging trend of CPAs transitioning into technology entrepreneurs. With over a decade of experience as a practicing CPA, Ben shares his journey from accounting to software development, highlighting the growing interest among accountants in launching their own tech solutions. David and Ben explore examples of other industry leaders, such as Jackie Meyer and Kelly Mann, who have made similar transitions, and delve into the motivations behind this shift. This conversation offers valuable insights for ambitious accountants looking to innovate and expand their impact in the financial sector. Tune in to uncover the opportunities that lie at the intersection of accounting and technology! In a recent podcast episode featuring Ben Taylor, CEO of SoftLedger, the discussion highlights how many CPAs, including Ben himself, have experienced firsthand the limitations of existing accounting software. Ben's journey began about ten years ago while managing various areas in the accounting department of a small public company. Frustrated with the outdated and inefficient Microsoft Dynamics GP, which led to delays in financial reporting, he realized there had to be a better way to handle accounting processes. This frustration sparked the idea for SoftLedger. The episode also emphasizes that this trend is not isolated to Ben. Many other accountants have made similar transitions, moving from traditional firm roles to developing innovative software solutions. For instance, host David Cristello mentions several individuals who have successfully made this leap, including Jackie Meyer, Kelly Mann, and Hector Garcia. These examples illustrate a broader movement within the accounting profession, where practitioners leverage their industry knowledge to create tools that address specific pain points.
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes Dave Olsen, founder of an accounting firm and Nimbl Staffing. Dave shares his unique journey in the accounting industry, discussing the success of his staffing service and his exciting new venture into IT services for accounting firms. The conversation delves into the strategies behind building a solid foundation for business growth, including the structures necessary for launching new services. Listeners will gain insights into the process of expanding a business and the importance of having the bandwidth to innovate. Tune in to discover how Dave navigates the challenges of running multiple services and what it takes to thrive in the accounting world.
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Crostello welcomes back Geoff Bruskin, founder of White Tiger Connections, to discuss the evolving landscape of talent in the accounting profession. Geoff shares insights from his extensive experience in mergers and acquisitions (M&A) for CPA firms, emphasizing the growing importance of talent acquisition and retention in today's market. He outlines the dual trends of M&A and talent, as well as the impact of technology on these areas. Additionally, Geoff introduces his recent venture into business brokerage, helping CPA clients sell their businesses, further enhancing the services offered to the accounting community. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that explores how firms can leverage talent and technology to thrive in a competitive environment. Geoff Bruskin is a distinguished figure in the realm of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) within the accounting profession, known for his innovative approach to talent acquisition and business growth strategies. As the founder and leader of White Tiger Connections, Geoff has dedicated his career to facilitating transactions that empower CPA firms to thrive in an increasingly competitive landscape. His expertise extends beyond M&A he is also a recognized authority in recruiting for the CPA profession, helping firms not only to grow through acquisitions but also to build robust teams that drive sustainable success.
In this episode of Growing Your Firm, host David Cristello welcomes K.C. Eames, the Director of Client Accounting Services at Dark Horse CPAs. The conversation delves into the complexities of pricing in client accounting services (CAS) and the nuances that make it both an art and a science. K.C. shares insights about the unique structure of Dark Horse CPAs, contrasting it with traditional accounting firms that operate on a pyramid model. The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding both the quantifiable and intuitive aspects of pricing, particularly as firms navigate the evolving landscape of CAS best practices. Tune in to discover valuable strategies for enhancing your firm's operations and achieving your goals faster.
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm podcast, host David Cristello welcomes Alan Whitman, the former CEO and chairman of Baker Tilly. Alan shares his remarkable journey of transforming Baker Tilly from a $475 million firm to a $1.5 billion powerhouse. Throughout the conversation, Alan describes how businesses can thrive – largely by prioritizing strategy over aimless "accumulation." Alan Whitman is a seasoned leader in the accounting and advisory industry, known for his transformative role as the former CEO and Chairman of Baker Tilly. As leader, he successfully scaled the organization from $475 million to $1.5 billion, demonstrating a keen understanding of strategic growth and operational maturity. Currently, Alan runs an advisory practice where he shares his expertise in scaling firms and implementing best practices for growth. He is a sought-after speaker and thought leader, regularly publishing insights on leadership and organizational development through his weekly newsletter. Alan is also active on LinkedIn, where he connects with professionals across the industry.
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm podcast, David Cristello welcomes Dawn Goldberg, a seasoned CPA and a Certified Professional Coach. Dawn shares her incredible story of maintaining her productivity even after a stage four cancer diagnosis forced her to undergo six months of chemotherapy. To accomplish this, Dawn maintained some key practices – including mind management, time management, and a scheduling trick she calls "container calendaring." She explains all of these strategies here. Throughout the conversation, Dawn highlights the significance of mindset in overcoming obstacles and achieving success. Are you an accountant seeking to enhance productivity and well-being? Then Dawn has solutions for you!
In this episode of the Growing Your Firm Podcast, host Dave Cristello welcomes Dominic Piscopo, the founder of Big 4 Transparency. An expert in salary benchmarking within the accounting industry, Dominic shares insights into compensation strategies, year-over-year changes, and the impact of private equity (PE) on salaries. The conversation highlights the evolving landscape of compensation in accounting firms. Dominic Piscopo, CPA is known as a compensation guru in the accounting industry. After years of working as an accountant and financial analyst, he founded Big 4 Transparency – which has served hundreds of thousands of CPAs by making salary data more visible. Dominic assists accounting firms by giving them a user-friendly dashboard for understanding industry trends around compensation. He's also the host of the Big 4 Transparency podcast, where he interviews accounting industry insiders.



