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Welcome to The Edu20/20 Podcast where Courtney and Shannon take the real, messy challenges teachers and coaches face and turn them into simple moves that actually work.


They’ve spent years in classrooms, PLCs, and district offices, so they’ve seen plenty, learned even more, and aren’t shy about laughing at the parts we all recognize and can relate to. You’ll hear clear language, straight answers, and the kind of stories that make you feel like you’re sitting with two friends who genuinely understand the work.


Each episode tackles a topic educators are wrestling with right now and turns it into practical steps you can use tomorrow. If you want clarity, confidence, and a little comic relief, hit follow.

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Welcome to the Edu20/20 After Hours Podcast, AKA the version of us that probably shouldn’t be mic’d up, but here we are. This episode is fully dedicated to Shannon because she casually dropped one of the most unhinged life stories we’ve ever heard and then just moved on like it was normal. We’re talking about her first marriage inside a highly controlled religious organization, what that process actually looked like, and how she eventually got out. It’s wild, uncomfortable, and also weirdl...
In this episode, we’re breaking down a game-changing practice: lesson framing. If your students constantly ask: “Is this for a grade?” “Why I gotta do this?” …it might not be defiance. It might be that the lesson wasn’t framed clearly. We talk about: - What “lesson framing” actually means (beyond writing standards on the board for compliance) - How framing creates clarity, predictability, and smoother lessons - Why your third-period lesson always hits harder than first period (and how to fi...
In this episode of The Edu20/20 Podcast After Hours, Courtney Dumas and Shannon Street take you behind the scenes of life on the road as co-owners of Edu20/20. When you travel across states supporting teachers and leaders, you collect stories… and we’ve collected a lot. In this episode: - The infamous Office Depot bathroom injury (yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like) - The gas station with the “Please don’t wipe your boogers on the wall” sign - A steak knife mysteriously embedded three flo...
In this episode, we’re breaking down a game-changing practice: lesson framing. If your students constantly ask: “Is this for a grade?” “Why I gotta do this?” …it might not be defiance. It might be that the lesson wasn’t framed clearly. We talk about: - What “lesson framing” actually means (beyond writing standards on the board for compliance) - How framing creates clarity, predictability, and smoother lessons - Why your third-period lesson always hits harder than first period (and how to fi...
Welcome back to the Edu20/20 Podcast: After Hours where the vibes are relaxed, and the stories are unfiltered. In this episode, Shannon Street and Courtney Dumas swap teacher-and-student prank stories. You’ll hear: - The remote-control fart machine prank that had an entire class convinced Shannon was guilty - Courtney’s “good kid gone rogue” moment involving stolen transparencies… and an April Fools expulsion prank that nearly ended her emotionally - A classroom “fire” prank that turned int...
Welcome back to the Edu20/20 Podcast! Courtney Dumas and Shannon Street are back (with a new studio setup, look at us movin' on up in the world 👀). This episode tackles moving toward instructional goals and why so many goals don’t go anywhere: because we don’t break them into the knowledge and skills teachers (and students) actually need. You’ll hear: - Why “busy” isn’t the same as progress - How to reverse-engineer a goal into clear action steps - The 3 pathways that must align to move goa...
Student engagement sounds great in theory—until you’re standing in front of 37 students wondering how to let go without losing control or running out of time. In Part 2 of our student engagement series, Courtney and Shannon get practical. They talk about the real fears teachers have around engagement and how to build engagement for learning step by step without chaos. In this episode, you’ll learn: ✅ Why fear (not style) keeps teachers stuck in lecture mode ✅ How classroom management is the...
“Just make it more engaging” is among the most common feedback teachers get...and the least helpful. You're basically asking the instructional equivalent of “have you tried being better?”😅 In this episode of The Edu20/20 Podcast, Courtney and Shannon unpack what “engagement” actually means, break down the 3 levels of student engagement, and explain why fun doesn’t always equal learning. You’ll hear the real story behind Shannon’s student engagement trauma (including a full-on grammar triage...
Welcome to another After Hours episode of The Edu20/20 Podcast. Courtney and Shannon share their real origin stories: from trauma bonding over a confusing group project to small‑town classrooms, alternative school, religious detours, and even Middle Tennessee Teacher of the Year. Basketball camps, a sister with dyslexia, and one dramatic shattered windshield all made an appearance on the road to Edu2020. We also talk about how COVID pushed us out of all‑day online PD and into starting our ow...
Welcome back to the Edu20/20 Podcast. In this episode, we dig into one of our favorite Priority Skills: classroom management. We talk through the routines and systems that make classrooms run smoothly, from how students enter to how they get materials, transition, partner, and exit. If kids touch it or use it, it probably needs a routine. Good management takes the cognitive load off students so they can actually learn. It also makes teaching easier and makes engagement moves possible. We sha...
Welcome to the After Hours edition of the Edu20/20 Podcast. Think of this as the space where we tell the stories that don’t usually make it into our trainings but absolutely shaped who we are as educators. In today’s episode, it’s all things Courtney. Specifically, the era we now lovingly call Avocado Gate. Yes, she really got written up for a dancing Snapchat avocado during a leadership meeting. Yes, it was as ridiculous as it sounds. But it also raised a real question about how often schoo...
Welcome to the first-ever episode of The Edu20/20 Podcast, your go-to space for simple, effective teaching and coaching strategies. Today, we’re unpacking a big question in education: What actually makes teaching “good”? Courtney and Shannon break down the five Priority Skills every effective teacher and instructional coach should know: Classroom Management, Student Engagement, Behavior Management, Lesson Planning, and Lesson Delivery. These high-leverage teaching skills are clear, visible, ...
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