The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast

Shashwat Sehgal, CEO of P0 Security, joins ⁠⁠#MrNHI⁠⁠ at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as ⁠⁠#MrNHI⁠⁠ fires 10 machine speed questions on ⁠⁠#iam⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#nhis⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#identitysecurity⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#agenticai⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠#aiagents Mr NHIs Rapid Fire Questions1. Will static long-lived credentials/secrets still exist in five years? (00:14–01:02)2. Are enterprises finally making NHI risk management a top priority? (01:09–02:10)3. Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security? (02:16–03:23)4. Are organisations putting time to market ahead of security controls for AI Agents? (03:30–04:53)5. Are CISOs ready for fleets of autonomous digital employees? (04:59–05:54)6. Can zero standing privilege work for NHIs and agents? (06:00–08:09)7. Is the recent market activity involving identity vendors a good thing for the industry? (08:21–08:53)8. Will regulators move fast enough to keep up with Agentic AI? (08:58–09:01)9. Are we repeating the past mistakes of managing NHIs now with AI Agents? (09:13–09:21)10. Does PAM change dramatically with the introduction of Agentic AI Agents? (09:30–09:56)

Revolutionising PAM: Humans & NHIs in the AI EraIn Episode 7 of The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, host Lalit Choda (#mrnhi ) sits down with Shashwat Sehgal, CEO of  @p0-dev  Security, to explore how Privileged Access Management (PAM) is evolving in a world of AI, cloud infrastructure, and rapidly growing Non-Human Identities (NHIs).As organisations adopt AI agents, automation, APIs, service accounts, and machine identities, traditional PAM models designed for humans are no longer enough. This episode dives deep into how security teams must rethink identity security, privilege management, and access governance to manage both human users and machine identities at scale. In an era where artificial intelligence rules, non-human intelligences are reshaping paradigms.Connect with Lalit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/Connect with Shashwat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shashwatsehgal/ Visit nhimg.org to learn moreKey Moments Introduction (00:00 – 01:35)Mr NHI’s Human Identity In The Hot Seat (01:36 – 11:47)How Has PAM Evolved? (11:48 – 15:43)Perspectives On Password-Based PAM (15:44 – 22:28)What Does The Modern PAM Solution Look Like? (22:29 – 27:44)How Agentic AI Is Going To Change The Game (27:45 – 35:59)What Are Agentic AI Risks? (36:00 – 38:10)How Can We Model The Complexity Of Autonomous Interactions? (38:11 – 41:29)Do We Have To Limit Or Define Who The Agent Is Talking To Or Interacting With In The Future? (41:30 – 43:42)What Is P0 Security Doing? (43:43 – 46:34)Closing Thoughts / Advice For The Audience (46:35 – 48:18)

Itamar Apelblat, CEO of  @TokenSecurity  joins ⁠⁠#MrNHI⁠⁠ at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as ⁠⁠#MrNHI⁠⁠ fires 10 machine speed questions on ⁠⁠#iam⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#nhis⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#identitysecurity⁠⁠, ⁠⁠#agenticai⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠#aiagents

Lalit Choda (#mrnhi), founder of the ⁠‪ ⁨@NHIMgmtGroup⁩  launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity. In Episode 6, Itamar Apelblat, CEO ‪of  @TokenSecurity, joins Mr NHI to discuss Token Security's AI Identity Security Predictions of 2026. They go into detail about how AI agent IAM stacks will need a rebuild, AI coding agents will drive misconfigurations, compliance frameworks must adapt for autonomous agents, and security incidents will spike from identity mismatches between humans and AI.Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/ -Connect with Itamar on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/itamar-apelblat/Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course. Key Moments Mr NHI’s Human Identity In The Hot Seat (2:00 – 4:35)Why Do AI Agents Fundamentally Break The Way Enterprises Have Thought About Identity And Security Up To Now? (5:19 – 7:25)Where Do AI Agents Take The Challenge To The Next Level? (7:43 – 10:11)Do We Need To Move To Dynamic Authorisation Due To The Autonomous Nature Of AI Agents? (10:12 – 11:49)Will AI Coding Agents Become A Major Source Of Identity Misconfigurations? (12:33 – 14:57)Will Compliance Frameworks Undergo A Major Overhaul To Account For AI Agents In The Workforce? (17:15 – 19:00)Is Compliance Catching Up Or Not Yet? (19:02 – 22:32)Security Incidents Will Spike Due To Identity Mismatches Between Employees And AI Agents (22:33 – 25:20)How Can We Defend Against Identity Security Incidents? (25:23 – 27:44)How To Track The Agents’ Activity When They Have Nondeterministic Behaviour? (28:00 – 30:03)Mr NHI Predictions (30:21 – 32:37)What Token Security Are Doing? (33:21 – 38:50)How Can We Understand The Agent's Intention / Goal? (41:30 – 44:18)Closing Thoughts / Advice For The Audience (44:20 – 46:21)KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents

Martin Sandren, IAM Product Lead at IKEA, joins ⁠#MrNHI⁠ at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as ⁠#MrNHI⁠ fires 10 machine speed questions on ⁠#iam⁠, ⁠#nhis⁠, ⁠#identitysecurity⁠, ⁠#agenticai⁠ and ⁠#aiagents

Lalit Choda (#mrnhi), founder of the ⁠ @NHIMgmtGroup  launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity. In Episode 5, Martin Sandren, IAM Product Lead at Ikea, joins Mr NHI to explore a core question in modern identity security: AI for IAM or IAM for AI?, discussing how AI is reshaping identity management, why organisations must govern AI agents and NHIs, and what steps teams should take now to prepare their IAM infrastructure for the rise of agentic AI.- Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/⁠⁠⁠- Connect with Martin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinsandren/- Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course.Key Moments Mr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat (4:15–9:40)How Organisations Are Currently Tackling NHI Risks (10:21–13:22)How Organisations Are Using AI and Agentic AI in Practice Today (12:22–16:42)AI for IAM or IAM for AI? (17:14–19:35)Where AI Can Transform IAM Processes (19:51–21:18)AI’s Role in Solving JML Problems and Complications (21:19–23:17)Can AI Improve and Bring RBAC Back? (23:18–24:17)How AI Is Helping to Tackle NHI Challenges and Risks (24:21–30:00)Where Does IAM Need to Evolve? (28:13–30:44)Advice for Organisations (30:45–35:32)What Are the Biggest Identity Security Gaps Today, Especially With AI? (35:47–39:11)Do We Have Suitable Solutions to Govern AI End-to-End? (40:00–41:02)What’s the One Thing That Keeps You Up at Night From an Agentic AI Standpoint? (44:07–46:04)Closing Thoughts and Advice for the Audience (46:14–46:56) KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents,

Dwayne McDaniel, Developer Advocate at GitGuardian, joins #MrNHI at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as #MrNHI fires 10 machine speed questions on #iam, #nhis, #identitysecurity, #agenticai and #aiagents

Lalit Choda (#mrnhi), founder of the ⁠ ⁨@NHIMgmtGroup,⁩ ⁠ launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity. In Episode 4, Dwayne McDaniel, Developer Advocate at GitGuardian, joins Mr NHI to discuss Secrets Sprawl and what teams can do to secure NHIs. They explore why credentials are spreading across modern codebases and the role AI plays in both catching leaks early and potentially increasing secrets sprawl.- Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/⁠⁠-Connect with Dwayne on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwaynemcdaniel/ Key Moments Mr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat (3:06 - 6:52)What Is Secrets Sprawl? (7:31 - 8:50)State Of Secrets Report (8:55 - 11:07)Why Private Repos Are Worse? (11:20 - 13:30)Which Insight Was Horrifying To You? (13:41 - 15:59)What Is GitGuardian? (27:07 - 30:29)How AI Is Helping From A Security Standpoint? (33:49 - 36:45)How To Prevent The Secrets Sprawl Problem / Prevent Controls For Secrets Sprawl Problem (37:12 - 40:25)How Often Should Secrets Be Rotated? (41:27 - 42:05)Closing Thoughts / Advice For The Audience (45:59 - 47:01)KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents, Secret Sprawl

Lalit Choda (#mrnhi), founder of the  ⁨@NHIMgmtGroup,⁩  launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.In Episode 3, Ev Kontsevoy, CEO of @goteleport, joins Mr NHI to discuss what it really takes to govern and secure #agenticai, and why most organisations aren’t ready yet. They discuss the challenges organisations face as autonomous AI systems become integral to business operations- Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/⁠⁠- Connect with Ev on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kontsevoy/ - Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course. Key MomentsMr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat(1:45 – 4:16)How do we govern agentic AI? (4:34 – 7:15)From a CEO perspective, what do you tell your clients? (13:45 – 15:14)What is an Identity Attack? (16:28 – 17:25)Are organisations taking NHI risk seriously enough? (19:51 – 22:55)Identity Layer or Identity Fabric? (24:44 – 25:54)Machine Identity or Non-Human Identity? (28:18 – 29:28)What are the latest updates about Teleport (30:02 – 32:24)How to prepare your infrastructure for AI? (32:29 – 33:19)How to deal with anomaly detection with the presence of indeterministic behaviour of AI? (37:04 – 40:52)Closing Thoughts / Advice for the audience (42:40 – 44:07)KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents

#Lalit Choda (Mr. NHI), founder of the ‪@NHIMgmtGroup‬ launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, Non AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.In Episode 2, Alon Jackson, CEO @AstrixSecurity, joins Mr NHI to discuss the big question: “Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security?” - based on a recent NHI Management Group poll where 35% said Yes and 65% said No.We discuss:How AI agents fit into the broader NHI ecosystemWhat an AI agent really is (cutting through the hype)Authentication & authorisation challenges unique to agentsHow to detect anomalies in non-deterministic agent behaviourPlus, we launch a brand-new segment:🎙 “Mr NHIs – Human Identity in the Hot Seat” - 10 rapid-fire questions on identity security, NHIs, and Agentic AI.Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/Connect with Alon on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackson-alon/Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course. Key MomentsMr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat (1:26 – 3:24)Does Agentic AI Security = NHI Security? / The Overlap between Agentic AI & NHI (3:45 – 6:40)Defining What an Agent Really Is? (10:32 – 12:29)Why Agentic AI Security Is More Complex? (12:33 – 14:53)Authentication & Authorisation Challenges for Agents (14:55 – 19:27)What Agentic AI Challenge Keeps You Up At Night? (19:42 – 21:48)How Do You Detect Anomalies When Agent Behaviour Is Non-Deterministic? (22:36 – 25:31)What Does Astrix Security Do? (25:52 – 27:33)Why Is Posture Alone No Longer Sufficient for Securing Non-Human and Agentic Identities? (27:34 – 28:18)The Market Perspective (32:58 – 35:29)Closing Thoughts / Advice for the Audience (36:18 – 38:29)KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents

Ev Kontsevoy CEO of Teleport joins #MrNHI at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as #MrNHI fires 10 machine speed questions on #iam, #nhis, #identitysecurity, #agenticai and #aiagents

Alon Jackson, CEO of Astrix Securit,y joins #MrNHI at the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast, where he is put in the hot seat as #MrNHI fires 10 machine speed questions on #iam, #nhis, #identitysecurity, #agenticai and #aiagents

In the first episode of The Non-Human and AI Identity Podcast, Lalit Choda (Mr NHI) is joined by the CEO of Entro Security, Itzik Alvas, to explore the NHI and AI journey.As Non-Human Identities, including Agentic AI Agents, rapidly expand, organisations are facing new challenges across IAM, cloud security, DevOps security, and AI Governance.Lalit and Itzik break down where the cybersecurity industry stands today and how AI agents are creating an accelerant for governing, managing and securing NHIs.Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/⁠Connect with Itzik on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/itzik-alvas/Visit ⁠⁠nhimg.org for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our nhi-training.org to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course. Key MomentsWhere Is The Industry Now? (4:26 – 7:34)AI Agents As NHI Accelerant (7:37 – 8:48)AI Agents = NHI On Steroids (8:49 – 10:05)Where Are Organisations In Their Maturity Curve With NHIs? (10:07 – 14:07)Is The AI-Agent Story Overshadowing The Broader NHI Story? (14:42 – 18:03)What Are The Customers Saying? (20:07 – 23:41)Are Organisations Rushing AI Agent Deployments While Overlooking Foundational IAM Security? (23:42 – 26:28)The Market Perspective (33:09 – 35:05)Agentic AI Challenge From A Security Standpoint (35:37 – 37:45)Closing Thoughts / Advice For The Audience (41:13 – 44:04)NHAI Summit (44:06 – 45:59)KeywordsNHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents

Visit nhimg.org to learn more Lalit Choda, founder & CEO, joins Neha Duggal from P0 Security as they unpack why traditional IAM and PAM fail for agentic systems and what modern access policies must look like to keep agents productive, contained and auditable.As teams deploy agentic workflows with AWS Bedrock, Google Vertex and custom LLMs, autonomous agents are interacting directly with cloud infrastructure and data, often with standing permissions no human would ever get. This creates a fast-growing governance gap.

Karen Crowley Andromeda Security hosts Lalit Choda (#MrNHI) Founder of the NHI Mgmt Group and Andromeda's Chief Product Officer, Ashish Shah for this top-level discussion that will unpack the most pressing issues organizations face today with Non-Human Identities (NHI) and AgenticAI and how they’re becoming the new frontline in cybersecurity defence.The session covers the latest research, real-world challenges, and breaches tied to unmanaged NHIs and the future with AgenticAI :– Why securing NHI is now mission-critical for enterprise resilience– The growing interplay between human users and NHIs — and what that means for access governance– Best practices for managing NHI at scale– A look at Agentic AI: how to secure it, and why it changes the game

The NHI Mgmt Group (https://nhimg.org), hosts the biggest ever Non-Human Identity Workshop at Identiverse, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas on Tuesday 3rd June 2025.Panel Session - What are NHIs - Criticality and the Key Risks and Challenges Hosted by Lalit Choda (Mr. NHI) founder of the NHI Mgmt Group with : Kirby Fitch from SailPoint Shashwat Sehgal from P0 Security.For more great content on Non-Human Identities, go to our portal https://nhimg.org/, where we have the most comprehensive knowledge centre on Non-Human / Machine Identities, including Research, White Papers, Breaches, Discussion Forum, Blogs and Products that support the risk management of NHIs

The NHI Mgmt Group (https://nhimg.org), hosts the biggest ever Non-Human Identity Workshop at Identiverse, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas on Tuesday 3rd June 2025.Panel Session - Why The Urgency Now Hosted by Dwayne McDaniel from GitGuardian with :Jobson Andrade from MARSKamal Congevaram Muralidharan from Andromeda Security Anusha Iyer from CorshaFor more great content on Non-Human Identities, go to our portal https://nhimg.org/, where we have the most comprehensive knowledge centre on Non-Human / Machine Identities, including Research, White Papers, Breaches, Discussion Forum, Blogs and Products that support the risk management of NHIs

The NHI Mgmt Group (https://nhimg.org), hosts the biggest ever Non-Human Identity Workshop at Identiverse, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas on Tuesday 3rd June 2025.Panel Session - The NHI Maturity Model: A Risk Based Approach to Implementing an NHI Program Hosted by Jesse Minor with :Sriram Santhanam from GAPRich Dandliker from Veza Anthony Viggiano from CignaFor more great content on Non-Human Identities, go to our portal https://nhimg.org/, where we have the most comprehensive knowledge centre on Non-Human / Machine Identities, including Research, White Papers, Breaches, Discussion Forum, Blogs and Products that support the risk management of NHIs

The NHI Mgmt Group (https://nhimg.org), hosts the biggest ever Non-Human Identity Workshop at Identiverse, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas on Tuesday 3rd June 2025.Session - NHI Compromise DemoMichael Silva from Astrix Security shares a great demo of how NHIs can be easily discovered and used to compromise organisations.For more great content on Non-Human Identities, go to our portal https://nhimg.org/, where we have the most comprehensive knowledge centre on Non-Human / Machine Identities, including Research, White Papers, Breaches, Discussion Forum, Blogs and Products that support the risk management of NHIs

The NHI Mgmt Group (https://nhimg.org), hosts the biggest ever Non-Human Identity Workshop at Identiverse, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas on Tuesday 3rd June 2025.Panel Session - Agentic AI and the Intersection with NHIsHosted by Henrique Bernardes B Teixeira from Saviynt with Idan Gour from AstrixIdo Shlomo from Token Security Paresh Bhaya from NatomaFor more great content on Non-Human Identities, go to our portal https://nhimg.org/, where we have the most comprehensive knowledge centre on Non-Human / Machine Identities, including Research, White Papers, Breaches, Discussion Forum, Blogs and Products that support the risk management of NHIs