Cousins with Vince Carter & Tracy McGrady

Two-time NBA All-Star Antawn Jamison joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to look back on his journey, from growing up in North Carolina and starring at UNC to a 16-year NBA career. Antawn shares how watching Michael Jordan sparked his love for basketball, how North Carolina’s pickup culture shaped his toughness, and becoming a top-five high school prospect before committing to UNC. He recalls the conversations that helped convince Vince Carter to commit to Chapel Hill, their freshman years together, pushing each other alongside Ademola Okulaja, and playing for Coach Dean Smith. Antawn takes Vince and T-Mac inside his decision to leave UNC for the NBA, the 1998 NBA Draft night trade that sent Vince to Toronto and Antawn to Golden State, and early struggles that made him question himself. He also looks back on his unforgettable first NBA matchup with Charles Barkley, joining the exclusive 20,000-point club, and battling fellow greats Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. Antawn also reflects on his time with the Washington Wizards, explains why Gilbert Arenas was his favorite teammate, and shares what made their on-court chemistry so special. He and Vince then take it back to their UNC days—from Vince keeping the dorm floor on hip-hop all day to switching it up with R&B at night. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Antawn Jamison Joins Cousins 02:42 How Antawn Fell In Love With Basketball 04:35 Pickup Basketball Culture In North Carolina 07:03 Becoming A Top-5 High School Prospect 10:22 Freshman Year At UNC 15:12 Playing Under Coach Dean Smith 22:16 T-Mac’s Experience Playing Pickup At UNC 25:34 The Deciding Factor In Going Pro 31:38 Xfinity Court Connections 36:15 Getting Traded For Vince On Draft Night 42:59 Vince & Antawn Going Through The NBA Together 44:40 Antawn’s First Few Years In The NBA 47:38 Playing In Washington 53:14 Playing With A Young LeBron James 54:54 Playing With Kobe Bryant 57:04 What Antawn Is Most Proud Of From His Career 58:38 Being Part Of The Decision To Hire Coach Michael Malone 01:03:28 Vince & Antawn Share Their College Stories 01:05:29 What Antawn Would Tell His Younger Self 01:07:17 Why Gilbert Arenas Was His Favorite Teammate 01:10:26 Wrap Up Follow Cousins on Social Media:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vinceandtmac/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vinceandtmac X: https://x.com/VinceAndTmac Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinceAndTMac/ Much love to our sponsors: Xfinity: Xfinity Shield is your defensive line at home and online with built-in WiFi protection features. Detect motion with your Xfinity Gateway, no cameras needed. Plus, your devices are protected from threats and risky sites the moment they connect. Get it now at xfinity.com/shield. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/deals/offers?cmp=BAC:NA:ACQ:BAUP:PRO:GEN:HIS:COM:DIG:wifishield:2377 Check out Get TO The Point with Terrell Owens & Chris Spencer:  The podcast where everyone gets to the point. T.O. and Chris get into sports, culture, comedy, entertainment, hot takes and the conversations everyone is already having.  WATCH/LISTEN: youtube.com/@GTTPPodcast Uncrustables: Enjoy an Uncrustables right when you want one

xNBA legend Lou Williams joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to discuss his 17-year NBA career, Sixth Man legacy, and the story behind “Lemon Pepper Lou.” Lou Williams reflects on growing up between Memphis and Atlanta, where baseball was his first love before basketball took over. He shares the people who helped keep him on the right path, his rise into a nationally recognized prospect, and why staying loyal to his high school mattered so much. Lou also looks back on watching Sebastian Telfair get drafted—a moment that made the NBA dream feel real—reveals why Georgia would have been his college choice, and opens up about entering the league at just 18 years old. Lou discusses winning three NBA Sixth Man of the Year awards, finishing as a runner-up four times, and why he believes he was overlooked for multiple NBA All-Star selections. He shares what he learned from Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant and Kawhi Leonard, his friendship with Kawhi, and what went wrong for the Los Angeles Clippers in the 2020 NBA Bubble. Plus, Lou talks about his passion for music, managing artist Akeem Ali, SGA, the Western Conference, Luka Dončić leading the Lakers, and whether an NBA championship or MVP holds more weight. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:26 Lou Williams Joins Cousins 01:56 The Story Behind “Lemon Pepper Lou” 05:44 Lou Williams’ Childhood & Basketball Beginnings 12:13 Maintaining Balance & Discipline Among His Peers 14:41 Choosing Loyalty Over Pace Academy 17:13 Deciding To Go Pro After High School 25:00 The College Lou Williams Would’ve Attended 26:42 The Challenges Of Lou’s Rookie Season 31:05 Embracing His Sixth Man Legacy 39:07 Learning From Kobe Bryant, Kawhi Leonard & Allen Iverson 42:07 Xfinity Court Connections 51:01 Managing Akeem Ali & His Passion For Music 56:40 Breaking Down The Western Conference 01:05:24 Breaking Down The Eastern Conference 01:06:47 NBA Championship vs. MVP 01:10:35 Wrap Up Follow Cousins on Social Media:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vinceandtmac/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vinceandtmac X: https://x.com/VinceAndTmac Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinceAndTMac/ Much love to our sponsors: Xfinity: Xfinity Shield is your defensive line at home and online with built-in WiFi protection features. Detect motion with your Xfinity Gateway, no cameras needed. Plus, your devices are protected from threats and risky sites the moment they connect. Get it now at xfinity.com/shield. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/deals/offers?cmp=BAC:NA:ACQ:BAUP:PRO:GEN:HIS:COM:DIG:wifishield:2377 Uncrustables: Enjoy an Uncrustables right when you want one ZipRecruiter: Post jobs for free at http://ziprecruiter.com/COUSINS

YT DESCRIPTION: WNBA legend Tina Thompson joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to discuss her Hall of Fame career, the Houston Comets dynasty, and helping build the foundation of the WNBA. Tina looks back on learning basketball alongside her older brother and how competing against older players built her confidence. She reflects on winning four championships with the Houston Comets, the WNBA’s early years, and why she waited until less than 48 hours before the draft to commit to the league. Tina also shares what it means to see the growth of the WNBA today. Tina reveals why her first championship was the most memorable and why the Comets’ third title, dedicated to teammate Kim Perrot during her battle with cancer, remains closest to her heart. She also discusses Sheryl Swoopes, scouting for the Portland Trail Blazers, her relationship with Damian Lillard, and the story behind her signature red lipstick. Plus, Tina weighs in on the 2026 WNBA championship and MVP conversations, including A’ja Wilson, Olivia Miles, Paige Bueckers and Angel Reese. She reflects on Candace Parker entering the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, shares her thoughts on JuJu Watkins and Jazzy Davidson, and shows her excitement about seeing the Houston Comets return to the WNBA. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:22 Tina Thompson Joins Cousins 02:03 Tina Thompson’s Introduction To Basketball 08:49 Gaining Confidence Playing Against Older Guys 13:08 The Moment Her Brother Validated Her Game 14:58 The Houston Comets Dynasty 23:34 Building The WNBA From The Ground Up 25:40 Deciding To Join The WNBA 29:14 Watching The Growth Of The WNBA Today 34:20 Xfinity Court Connections 36:55 Winning Four Championships With The Houston Comets 38:25 Losing Kim Perrot To Cancer During A Championship Run 42:05 Sheryl Swoopes’ Iconic Era 43:39 The Houston Comets Return 44:17 The Story Behind Tina Thompson’s Signature Lipstick 50:51 2026 WNBA Championship Contenders 53:28 Tina Thompson’s WNBA MVP Candidates 56:59 Watching Candace Parker Enter The Hall Of Fame 58:19 Thoughts On JuJu Watkins & Jazzy Davidson 01:01:41 Wrap Up Follow Cousins on Social Media:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vinceandtmac/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vinceandtmac X: https://x.com/VinceAndTmac Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinceAndTMac/ Much love to our sponsors: Xfinity: Xfinity Shield is your defensive line at home and online with built-in WiFi protection features. Detect motion with your Xfinity Gateway, no cameras needed. Plus, your devices are protected from threats and risky sites the moment they connect. Get it now at xfinity.com/shield. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/deals/offers?cmp=BAC:NA:ACQ:BAUP:PRO:GEN:HIS:COM:DIG:wifishield:2377 Uncrustables:  ZipRecruiter: Post jobs for free at http://ziprecruiter.com/COUSINS

The Cousins sit down to discuss what it means to be “the guy,” becoming a franchise player, and the pressure of leading a team. T-Mac shares what it was like becoming the Orlando Magic’s franchise player at 21, while Vince explains how he grew into that role with the Toronto Raptors and became a stronger leader with the New Jersey Nets. They discuss handling losing streaks, learning from veterans, and why the best player doesn’t always have to be the loudest voice. Plus, T-Mac shares stories about Houston Rockets teammates Yao Ming and Dikembe Mutombo and the importance of relationships off the court. Vince and T-Mac open up about the physical and mental toll of carrying an NBA franchise. T-Mac recalls his exhausting 2007 Game 7 against the Utah Jazz, the frustrations that led him from Orlando to Houston, and Vince shares his struggles with injuries in Toronto. They also discuss accountability and how social media criticism impacts today’s players. Plus, Vince and T-Mac explain why building an NBA legacy was worth the pressure and scrutiny. They name Brandon Miller and Scottie Barnes as potential franchise cornerstones and debate when loyalty to a team becomes a bad decision, including when it’s time to leave and when a player may have walked away too soon. 00:00 Intro 01:18 What It Really Means to Be “The Guy” 06:30 Vince Carter’s Welcome-to-the-Role Moment 08:30 The Moment T-Mac Became “The Guy” 10:35 T-Mac on Carrying Orlando Through a Losing Streak 16:41 When Vince Was Playing His Best Basketball 19:10 Leadership on T-Mac’s Rockets Teams 23:22 Can the Star Still Be One of the Guys? 27:13 Surviving the 82-Game Grind 31:47 The Mental and Physical Wear of an NBA Season 36:49 Xfinity Court Connections 42:09 Bouncing Back From a Difficult Season 49:13 How Social Media Has Changed Today’s Players 52:39 The Pressure of Being a Franchise Face 58:28 Who Has Next as a Franchise Player? 01:03:20 When Does Franchise Loyalty Go Too Far? 01:08:07 Wrap Up Follow Cousins on Social Media:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vinceandtmac/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vinceandtmac X: https://x.com/VinceAndTmac Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinceAndTMac/ Much love to our sponsors: Xfinity: Xfinity Shield is your defensive line at home and online with built-in WiFi protection features. Detect motion with your Xfinity Gateway, no cameras needed. Plus, your devices are protected from threats and risky sites the moment they connect. Get it now at xfinity.com/shield. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/deals/offers?cmp=BAC:NA:ACQ:BAUP:PRO:GEN:HIS:COM:DIG:wifishield:2377

Minnesota Lynx star Olivia Miles joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to discuss life in the WNBA, her standout rookie season, and the mindset behind her immediate impact. Olivia reflects on hearing her name called on draft night, joining the four-time champion Lynx, and finding herself in MVP conversations as a rookie. She explains how she developed her unique pace and creativity, what she’s learned from teammates Napheesa Collier and Courtney Williams, and the biggest lessons of her first season. Olivia also talks about becoming an All-Star starter, the rise of the WNBA, and staying grounded as her recognition grows. Olivia looks back on playing at Notre Dame under Niele Ivey, overcoming a knee injury that sidelined her for a season, and the players who inspired her growing up, including Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Stephen Curry, Luka Dončić and Sue Bird. She also discusses representing Team USA at the 2025 FIBA Women’s AmeriCup, her three-year deal with Unrivaled, and preparing for her first WNBA playoffs as Vince and T-Mac share postseason advice. Plus, Olivia opens up about life away from basketball, playing as herself in NBA 2K, and the best investments she’s made in herself. She shares why her signature goggles have inspired young fans and what it means to see people wearing her jersey. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Olivia Miles Joins Cousins 01:45 Adjusting To Life In The WNBA 02:45 Olivia’s Basketball Inspirations Growing Up 04:54 Developing Her Unique Pace & Style Of Play 07:00 Biggest Lessons From Her Rookie Season 12:17 Becoming A WNBA All-Star As A Rookie 15:09 The Rise Of The WNBA & Its Young Stars 18:19 Staying Grounded Through Early Success 20:15 Playing For Niele Ivey At Notre Dame 22:54 Overcoming A Season-Ending Knee Injury 26:25 Xfinity Court Connections 35:50 Signing A Three-Year Deal With Unrivaled 37:13 Representing Team USA & Playing In FIBA 39:56 Preparing For Her First WNBA Playoffs 46:15 Choosing Basketball Over Soccer 49:50 The Best Investments She’s Made In Herself 50:43 Who Olivia Miles Is Away From Basketball 53:32 Inspiring Young Fans With Her Signature Goggles 56:28 Olivia’s Music Taste 57:24 Wrap Up Follow Cousins on Social Media:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vinceandtmac/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vinceandtmac X: https://x.com/VinceAndTmac Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinceAndTMac/ Much love to our sponsors: Xfinity: Xfinity Shield is your defensive line at home and online with built-in WiFi protection features. Detect motion with your Xfinity Gateway, no cameras needed. Plus, your devices are protected from threats and risky sites the moment they connect. Get it now at xfinity.com/shield. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/deals/offers?cmp=BAC:NA:ACQ:BAUP:PRO:GEN:HIS:COM:DIG:wifishield:2377