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Author: Ministry of Testing

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Into the MoTaverse is a podcast by Ministry of Testing, hosted by Rosie Sherry, exploring the people, insights, and systems shaping quality in modern software teams. Through thoughtful conversations and reflections, the podcast dives into quality engineering, software testing, leadership, technology trends and career growth. Whether you’re early in your career or shaping quality at scale, Into the MoTaverse is a space to think deeply about what quality really means and how it evolves.
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In this episode of Into the MoTaverse, Rosie Sherry catches up with long-time friend and community member Kim Knup to explore her journey from tester to internal DevRel Manager at Legal & General. Together they unpack platform engineering, communities of practice, quality as care, and what it really means to grow your career without losing your roots.Key Takeaways:Career growth isn’t always linear. Stepping “back” can open unexpected doors.Internal DevRel is about visibility, connection, and making work flow better across teams.Platform engineering should be treated like a product. With real customers and real use cases.Quality and community both start with care, for people, systems, and outcomes.In a changing job market, your network and relationships matter more than ever.
In this episode, Rosie Sherry sits down with Nataliia Burmei to talk candidly about navigating today’s tech job market, building confidence in leadership roles, and redefining what quality really means.Nataliia shares her recent experience of what brought on the the decision of making the brave move of leaving a role without a new one to go to.Together they explored refining CVs and building tangible technical proof, to learning how to “sell shamelessly” by leading with strengths. She reflects on the mental game of job hunting, especially how confidence fluctuates after rejection or redundancy, and why mindset can matter as much as skill.They explore:Why job descriptions are often the least helpful part of the processQuestions Nataliia asks hiring managers to uncover real challengesWhy companies should build strategy collaboratively instead of “selling” itThe difference between transactional testing and creative quality workHow community and giving back build deeper confidence than just consuming knowledge
This conversation between Rosie Sherry, founder of Ministry of Testing, and Chris Miles, Head of Platform Engineering at Legal & General, explores the evolving landscape of quality engineering. With over 25 years in the field, Chris shares how a "testing mindset" serves as a foundation for leadership and why the future of quality lies in communication, language, and the democratization of technical skills through AI.
What happens when you stop seeing software testing as a "quality gate" and start seeing it as a creative loop? In this episode of Into the MoTaverse, we sit down with Luke Lattimer-Rogers, a seasoned quality lead with over 14 years of experience across fashion, gaming, and even prison software.Luke challenges the traditional delineation between science and art, arguing that coding and QA are fundamentally creative acts of problem-solving.We dive deep into:The automation treadmill: Why focusing solely on automation can zap the creativity and exploratory joy out of a role.Quality voyeurism: How "sitting back" can actually lead to better insights.Quality through happiness: Why the best products start with happy creators and ethical HR policies, not just bug reports.AI as an "Electric Drill": Using AI as a tool to empower our "second brains" rather than replacing our human intuition.
In this episode of Into the MoTaverse, host Rosie Sherry is joined by Simon Tomes to pull back the curtain on the evolution of the Ministry of Testing, aka The MoTaverse.They dive into the idea of Community as a Service (CaaS) and how it becomes so much more powerful to offer many different opportunities for their people under the banner of CaaS. Community is everywhere, everything is intertwined, being able to build and offer events, learning, and opportunities under one banner passes the “Aaah Test”.
"I can't believe it hasn't even been a year!"What has felt like years of knowing Eamon, in reality it has been less than a year. This partly shows the power of the people, but also what is possible in community. We're launching our new podcast Into the MoTaverse, hosted by Rosie Sherry and our first guest had to be Eamon Droko.As we were chatting, and as I was scrolling through his MoT Profile I couldn't believe it was less than a year since he dived into and embraced MoT, and of course we embraced him back. From attending meetups, to finding a new role after a 2 year struggle, to doing 99 second talks and attending MoTaCon.It's been amazing to get to know Eamon and to continue to grow together. Come and listen to our conversation. We explore his journey, diversity and bias, job hunting, creativity (and Bug Rug!), and building confidence through community.
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