in the groove

Chris and Carly continue their conversation on habits and scaffolding through sustainable changes. Their discussion further explores the perspective of habits, cues and triggers for habit building, and finding flexibility between the bare minimum and the ideal. They also dive into the plastic nature of our brains and the “secret third option” that can open up ways we engage with the life we want to live. Have thoughts or questions you'd love to hear Chris and Carly chat about? Email us at podcast@groovespace.co Where to find us: Instagram and TikTok @thegnarliestcarly and @inthegroovepod YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@InTheGroovePodcast Substack @thegnarliestcarly Carly’s cool art https://www.carlywh.com/ Chapters (00:02:07) - Carly’s Perspective on Structuring Habits(00:13:03) - Habits You Want to Break(00:16:11) - Cues and Triggers(00:26:31) - The Malleability of a Habit - Thresholds from Bare Minimum to Ideal(00:29:35) - Neuroplasticity and Shame(00:36:49) - The Secret Third Option(00:42:43) - Take a Guess(00:47:52) - Hot Air Balloon(00:50:22) - Reward

Carly and Chris chat about habits as supportive rhythms we build over time, not strict routines we have to get perfectly right. They explore how self-talk, friction, and perfectionism can shape the way we grow, and why aiming for excellence with compassion often leads to something richer. It’s a thoughtful conversation to sit with if you’ve been navigating habits in your own life. Timestamps: 02:55 Defining a habit 07:20 Where does a habit exist within the growth zones 14:20 How habits serve Chris  16:50 How habits serve Carly 19:25 The language of habits 26:58 “Don’t think of a red barn” 28:17 Common points of friction  36:39 Friction’s purpose in building a habit 39:00 The steps of identifying and building habits 48:45 How to handle unsupportive voices Where to find us: Instagram and TikTok @thegnarliestcarly and @inthegroovepod YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@InTheGroovePodcast Substack @thegnarliestcarly Carly’s cool art https://www.carlywh.com/ Chapters (00:02:55) - Defining a habit(00:07:20) - Where does a habit exist within the growth zones(00:14:20) - How habits serve Chris(00:16:50) - How habits serve Carly(00:19:25) - The language of habits(00:26:58) - “Don’t think of a red barn”(00:28:17) - Common points of friction(00:36:39) - Friction’s purpose in building a habit(00:39:00) - The steps of identifying and building habits(00:48:45) - How to handle unsupportive voices

In this episode of ‘in the groove,’ Chris and Carly dig into the zones of growth; a concept popularized by adventure education pioneer Karl Rohnke. They chat about the comfort, growth, and panic zones to think about what each zone can teach us about how we learn, feel, and make choices. The conversation explores learning through play, the brain’s natural desire to learn, how outside judgment and fear can creep in, and the importance of noticing and accepting fear without letting it be the driver. New episodes drop every Thursday, so stick around. Until next time, take it easy. Timestamps:  02:00 Intro of the Three Zones of Growth and Adventure Education 08:53 Entering the Growth Zone and Getting Comfortable 14:18 Entering the Panic Zone and the Role of Judgment 22:27 What Links Us to the Zones & Outside Influences 24:12 When in the Panic Zone: Hitting Pause and Checking In 27:19 Growing Up with the Zones 33:20 Knowing When We’ve Spent Too Much Time in the Comfort Zone 42:57 The Span of the Growth Zone 45:41 Doing Something Relaxed and Doing Something Afraid 51:43 The Invitations of the Growth Zones Where to find us: Instagram and TikTok @thegnarliestcarly YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@InTheGroovePodcast Substack @thegnarliestcarly Carly’s cool art https://www.carlywh.com/ Resources & References:  Your Guide to the Comfort Zone: How Stepping Out Unlocks Your Potential Chapters (00:02:00) - Intro of the Three Zones of Growth and Adventure Education(00:08:53) - Entering the Growth Zone and Getting Comfortable(00:14:18) - Entering the Panic Zone and the Role of Judgment(00:22:27) - What Links Us to the Zones & Outside Influences(00:24:12) - When in the Panic Zone: Hitting Pause and Checking In(00:27:19) - Growing Up with the Zones(00:33:20) - Knowing When We’ve Spent Too Much Time in the Comfort Zone(00:42:57) - The Span of the Growth Zone(00:45:41) - Doing Something Relaxed and Doing Something Afraid(00:51:43) - The Invitations of the Growth Zones

Hey and welcome to the very first episode of In the Groove, a podcast where we create space and let meaningful conversations unfold. We explore the human experiences that connect us all to deepen our understanding of ourselves, our connection to the world, and the ways we engage with the aliveness within us. We’re glad you’re here. In this intro episode, you’ll meet Chris, an educator, life coach, and deep listener, and Carly, an artist, designer, and creative. To each other, they are  mom and daughter! Together, C&C talk about what’s been inspiring them lately, the kinds of structures that create space in our lives, and what it looks like to show up with creativity and curiosity. New episodes drop every Thursday, so stick around. Until next time, take it easy. Timestamps:  00:53 Intro/Chris and Carly’s relationship 03:38 Who Chris and Carly are 18:00 Exploring form and space  20:30 The process of our actions and failing forward  25:40 What has Chris been paying attention to? 34:00 What has Carly been paying attention to? 40:15 Internal structures Where to find us: Instagram and TikTok @thegnarliestcarly Substack @thegnarliestcarly Carly’s cool art https://www.carlywh.com Watch us on Youtube Resources & References:  Your Guide to the Comfort Zone: How Stepping Out Unlocks Your Potential Eckhart Tolle Chapters (00:00:53) - Intro/Chris and Carly’s relationship(00:03:38) - Who Chris and Carly are(00:18:00) - Exploring form and space (00:20:30) - The process of our actions and failing forward(00:25:40) - What has Chris been paying attention to?(00:34:00) - What has Carly been paying attention to?(00:40:15) - Internal structures