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Welcome to CXM Academy Podcasts, where we explore customer experience from every angle. Home to Table 7, our global journey into CX across cultures, and Table Stakes, deep-dive masterclasses with world-class CX experts.
Whether you want conversational storytelling or expert insights, you'll find practical insights served fresh
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The conversation delves into the intersection of behavioral science, customer experience, and human decision-making. Paul Craven, an expert in investment decision-making and behavioral finance, shares insights on the human behavioral side of investment and the impact of unconscious decision-making. The discussion also explores the application of behavioral science in real money decisions and the role of persuasion techniques in influencing customer behavior. The conversation delves into the importance of emotional intelligence and human connection in customer service and organizational culture. It explores the impact of feedback surveys, the role of emotional intelligence in customer interactions, and the future of AI in customer service. The speakers emphasize the significance of genuine human connection and the limitations of AI in replicating it.TakeawaysBehavioral science plays a crucial role in understanding human decision-making.The warmth of customer service is influenced by individual interactions and the permission level within organizations. Emotional intelligence is crucial in customer service and organizational cultureGenuine human connection is irreplaceable by AIChapters00:00 Understanding Human Decision-Making02:11 The Elephant and the Rider Metaphor03:34 Applying Behavioral Science to Real Money Decisions05:40 Principles of Persuasion and Customer Influence18:23 The Gap Between Brand Messaging and Customer Perception30:21 The Role of Warmth in Customer Service36:57 The Impact of Emotional Intelligence in Customer Interactions40:03 The Pitfalls of Over-Reliance on Feedback Surveys43:27 The Role of Emotional Intelligence in Organizational Culture54:13 The Future of AI in Customer Service01:14:21 The Significance of Genuine Human Connection
In this episode, the host explores the unique experiences and cultural aspects of the Netherlands, focusing on positioning, marketing strategies, and the impact of technology on brand positioning. The conversation delves into the Dutch culture of directness, the concept of the marketing waiting room, and the challenges and opportunities presented by AI in brand positioning. The conversation covers the intersection of marketing, technology, and human touch, the influence of cultural identity on customer experience, the impact of a sales mindset on customer-centric strategies, the shift from a product-focused approach to a customer-centric mindset, the importance of sustainable growth strategies, the strengths and areas for improvement in Dutch customer experience, and the Dutch approach to overcoming obstacles and challenges.TakeawaysDutch culture values directness, which influences marketing and customer experience strategies.The marketing waiting room concept challenges the traditional approach to marketing and emphasizes the importance of positioning in the buyer's mind. The value of creativity and human judgment in marketingThe importance of understanding and balancing cultural influences in customer experienceChapters00:00 The Netherlands: A Unique Experience06:37 The Marketing Waiting Room and the 95-5 Rule13:06 The Impact of Technology on Brand Positioning20:54 The Future of Brand Positioning and AI28:03 Sales Mindset and Customer Experience37:09 Long-Term Growth and Sustainable Strategies42:48 Dutch Strengths and Areas for Improvement in Customer Experience50:04 The Dutch Approach to Overcoming Obstacles
Table 7 · S2 · E01 — The Art of the AndsGermany · with hosts Michel Stevens & Bram De VosMichel and Bram packed a car in Belgium and drove eight hours into Germany to test a stereotype. Efficient. Organized. A little serious. They came back with the season's thesis instead: the best customer experiences aren't built by choosing between precision and warmth. They're built by holding on to both. Three interviews, two cities, ski jumping, river surfing, and one finger-wrestling champion.Chapters00:00 — Why we drove eight hours to Germany01:24 — Belgium to Munich. Eight hours, Michel's taste in music, coffee.02:16 — Cologne. Meeting Dr Graham Hill (former plant geneticist)03:00 — Marks & Spencer interviewed 3,000 Germans. Hired virtually none.06:30 — The 5% rule, and why CRM isn't about customers14:45 — Rethinking the stereotype on the way south16:30 — Munich. Meeting Christian Peter, author of It Depends on the Ands28:00 — AI in CX: more noise or more signal?35:42 — The Eisbachwelle: a permanent surf wave in a city with no ocean39:00 — Helmut Blocher: sixteen years, same conference, on purpose43:03 — Frances Chapireau: surveys, closeness, and German trust47:57 — South to the Alps. The Olympia Schanze.51:00 — Thomas Post: competitive finger wrestler since age threeGuests, in order of appearanceGraham Hill — CX consultant, Cologne. PhD in plant genetics, three decades consulting some of the largest enterprises in Europe. Toyota-Lean lineage, jobs-to-be-done practitioner, sceptic of journey-mapping orthodoxy.LinkedInChristian Peter — Munich-based author and former German banker. Author of It Depends on the Ands (the case for combining opposites in customer focus: data and human, automation and empathy, today and tomorrow).LinkedIn · BookHelmut Blocher — Organizer of the German CRM Forum, sixteen years and counting. Has deliberately refused to scale the event past a few hundred. Specialist in CRM, innovation, and transformation.LinkedIn · ConferenceFrances Chapireau — Keynote speaker at the German CRM Forum. British-born, Germany-based VoC specialist. Champion of customer-advisory boards over survey monoculture.LinkedInThomas Post — Reigning German champion in Fingerhakln (finger wrestling), Mittenwald. Third-generation competitor. Started at age three.HostsMichel Stevens — Course Director, CXM Academy. CX practitioner, writer, and traveller.LinkedInBram De Vos — Co-host. The man who said yes to driving eight hours for a podcast.LinkedInThis episode was produced by CXM Academy, the school for people who want to actually do customer experience, not just talk about it. Use code TABLE7 for 15% off your first program. Limited time offer.
The conversation explores the purpose of content marketing, emphasizing its role in reducing friction, increasing confidence, and deepening customer relationships.Content serves to reduce friction, increase confidence, or deepen the customer relationship
The conversation explores the distinction between AI fluency and intelligence, highlighting the impact of fluency on human perception. It also delves into the concept of trust in AI language models and the influence of clear and convincing explanations.TakeawaysAI fluency influences human perceptionTrust in AI language models is influenced by the clarity and confidence of explanations








