Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast

What if we’re chasing the wrong problem? As it turns out, it’s not so much about getting agents ready – it’s about getting ourselves ready to benefit from them. In this episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Alex Herrity, Legal Operations Leader at adidas, to explore the strategies and frameworks that unlock transformation and capability for legal teams in the long run. What You'll Learn:How to articulate what you actually want an AI agent to do before building or buying one Why simplifying processes before automating them is non-negotiable The difference between what legal leaders think happens vs. what actually happens operationally How to use AI as an intelligence tool to audit your own legal operations Why CLMs aren't going away and how they’re evolving How to shift from replacing lawyers to leveling up their work About the GuestAlex Herrity is a Legal Operations Leader at adidas with a unique background spanning both in-house counsel and legal technology innovation. Transitioning from commercial law into legal ops around 2017, he has become a thought leader on preparing legal departments for AI adoption. Co-hosting the podcast “Law://WhatsNext” alongside Tom Rice, Alex brings practical, grounded perspectives on legal technology implementation. Episode ResourcesAlex Herrity on LinkedIn: Alex Herrity Workday Contract Management: Website Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

How can legal leaders transition from the "Department of No" to the "Department of Growth"? In this milestone episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Workday’s Chief Legal Officer, Rich Sauer, to reflect on a year of explosive AI growth and project the trends for 2026. From his 20-year tenure at Microsoft to leading legal at Workday, Rich provides a masterclass on balancing innovation with responsibility. What You'll Learn:The Three Pillars of Modern Legal: How Workday organizes its legal team around driving growth, protecting the brand, and earning stakeholder trust. Agentic AI & The "Front Door": Why AI agents are becoming the new interface for legal departments to manage high-volume routine inquiries. The End of the Contract Silo: How moving contract data into systems like Salesforce transforms "file cabinet" documents into active business drivers. Navigating the Regulatory Patchwork: Why the EU AI Act, NIST Framework, and ISO 42001 are valuable guideposts for global AI adoption. AI and the Human-in-the-Loop: Why soft skills like trust, empathy, and persuasive communication are more valuable now than ever before. The Legal Business Model Tipping Point: Rich's take on the future of the billable hour and how AI is transforming the dynamic between in-house teams and outside counsel. About the GuestRich Sauer is the Chief Legal Officer & Head of Corporate Affairs at Workday. With a career spanning twenty years at Microsoft and previous experience at Sullivan & Cromwell, Rich is a leading voice on the intersection of technology, global policy, and corporate governance. At Workday, he oversees the responsible AI team and is a primary advocate for risk-based frameworks that unlock business innovation while protecting stakeholder trust. Episode ResourcesRich Sauer on LinkedIn: Rich Sauer Workday Official Website: Workday.com Workday AI & Innovation: Workday AI Evisort (Part of Workday): Evisort Website Regulatory Frameworks Mentioned: EU AI Act: Official Information NIST AI Risk Management Framework: NIST.gov ISO/IEC 42001 (AI Management System): ISO Standards Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

How can AI shape AND be shaped by the law? In this episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe welcome Kimberley Odums, Senior Counsel of Intellectual Property and AI at IEEE and founder of Lawyers Learn AI, to explore the intersection of legal innovation and artificial intelligence through a futuristic lens. What You'll Learn:How to position yourself as a Legal AI expert on your team by staying informed on critical AI developments Why the New York Times v. OpenAI case matters beyond just the case of publishing Why the $1.5 billion Anthropic settlement is an important precedent How to build confidence in AI tools through closed-environment systems leveraging Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) Why pro se litigants are winning cases using AI platforms for $20/month and the impact of this on access to justice The critical distinction between human authorship and AI generation in copyright law About the GuestKimberley Odums is Senior Counsel of Intellectual Property and Artificial Intelligence at the IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) and founder of the newsletter community Lawyers Learn AI. With a background spanning big law, nonprofit work and solo practice in trademark and brand protection, Kimberley has become a leading voice in the intersection of legal policy and AI development. Her work bridging the legal and tech communities makes her a leading voice in the rapidly evolving landscape of AI regulation and implementation. Episode ResourcesKimberley Odums on LinkedIn IEEE Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Are we going to see a new CXO in the boardroom - the Chief Contracting Officer? In this episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Mark Ross, Principal at Deloitte Legal Business Services, to explore the evolution of legal technology, from early e-discovery to agentic AI. What You'll Learn:How the evolution of eDiscovery created a blueprint for legal technology adoption and transformation Why generative and agentic AI represent a paradigm shift in legal services The three-bucket framework for measuring ROI in legal tech implementation How to successfully implement Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) by starting with a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) approach Why contract visibility should precede workflow automation for optimal results Why to expect the emergence of a Chief Contracting Officer role and why multidisciplinary skills will define the future legal department Why legal teams must balance risk management with business enablement to remain strategically relevant Why traditional legal business models remain resilient even in the face of technological disruption About the GuestMark Ross is Principal and Market Leader at Deloitte Legal Business Services, where he spearheads innovative approaches to legal department transformation. With over two decades of experience spanning from practicing law in the UK to pioneering legal outsourcing operations, Ross has been at the forefront of legal industry evolution. As a self-described "recovering attorney," he has played a pivotal role in shaping how global organizations leverage technology and alternative delivery models to optimize legal operations. His perspective on the intersection of legal operations, technology, and business strategy has helped legal professionals and business leaders navigate the rapidly evolving legal technology landscape. Episode ResourcesMark Ross on LinkedIn Deloitte Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Join hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe as they speak with Brooks Hall, Legal Operations Manager at Human Interest, about driving AI adoption in legal departments. From gradual implementation to weekly “AI jam sessions,” Brooks reveals strategies for building trust, improving workflows, and fostering innovation. Discover how to integrate AI responsibly while maintaining oversight and efficiency. What You'll Learn:- How to successfully implement AI tools in legal departments by starting with simple use cases and expanding gradually- Why hosting weekly "AI jam sessions" can accelerate adoption and create excitement around new solutions- Strategies for evaluating AI tools in a rapidly changing tech landscape- How to leverage existing tools before investing in new solutions, maximizing ROI on current technologies- How to bridge the gap between legal operations and HR through shared solutions- The approach to managing AI access controls and governance while expanding capabilities- Why creating bite-sized, AI-powered training videos can improve legal department efficiency- How to stay current with AI developments through diverse learning channels like podcasts, social media, and community forums About the GuestBrooks Hall is the Legal Operations Manager, Systems and Technology at Human Interest, where she drives innovation in legal workflows by implementing cutting-edge systems and AI solutions. Since joining in 2022, she has supported the company’s mission to democratize retirement savings by making 401(k) plans more affordable, accessible, and intuitive for small and medium businesses. Prior to Human Interest, Brooks built deep expertise in intellectual property and legal operations serving as Senior Paralegal at Dexcom and Gilead Sciences, where she supported global IP strategies in healthcare and biotech. She began her career as a patent assistant at Bozicevic, Field & Francis LLP, laying the foundation for her legal operations journey. Brooks is passionate about leveraging technology to simplify legal processes and empower teams. Episode ResourcesBrooks Hall on LinkedIn Human Interest Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast, brought to you by Evisort. In this episode, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe speak with Kristine Suero, Senior Paralegal and Director of Business Development at Schechter Benefits Law Group, about the evolving role of paralegals in an increasingly AI-driven legal industry, ethical considerations, and opportunities for growth in the profession. What You'll Learn:- How paralegals can embrace AI as an assistive tool while maintaining focus on essential human skills and client relationships- Why ethical and responsible use of AI in legal workflows requires clear policies and human oversight- The framework for "future-proofing" the paralegal profession through continuous learning and technology adoption- How paralegals can create hybrid roles by combining traditional legal skills with business development and legal operations- The importance of maintaining client confidentiality and security when implementing AI tools in legal workflows- Why proper training and internal policies are crucial for responsible AI adoption in law firms- The role of paralegals as early adopters and influencers in bringing new technologies to legal teams- How to architect your own career path by identifying opportunities to add value through technology and innovation Episode ResourcesKristine Custodio Suero on LinkedIn Schechter Benefits Law Group Website Articles & Publications:Future Proofing the Paralegal Profession: Navigating AI, Ethics, and Emerging Workflows in the Legal Industry What She-Hulk Gets Right About Paralegals Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Workday’s deployment of Evisort AI to manage 100,000 contracts yielded such strong results, they bought the company. Now, as “Customer Zero” for contract AI innovation, Workday is helping shape the future of legal technology. In this "special edition” of “Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast,” host Hal Marcus sits down with Greg Bennett and Kristi Johnson of Workday Global Legal Services to glean hard-won lessons from their multi-year experience deploying contract AI to better support M&A analysis, revenue operations, and more. We also discuss their aspirations for the future of in-house legal services with an increasingly AI-powered workforce. What You’ll Learn: Why having a program manager is important for a successful AI adoption. Why synchronizing contract data with CRM systems fosters operational efficiency. The importance of balancing AI and human expertise in contract analysis. How to amplify contract intelligence beyond the legal team. How to leverage custom AI models to extract valuable insights from legacy contracts. Co-host Memme Onwudiwe will be back with Hal in our next episode! Episode ResourcesGreg Bennett LinkedIn Kristi Johnson LinkedIn Workday Website Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Contracts are more than just legal documents; they’re stories of trust, risk, and negotiation. But how do you master the real-world skills that law school rarely teaches? Welcome to “Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast.” In this episode, Hal and Memme sit down with Laura Frederick, founder of How to Contract, to explore what it takes to draft, negotiate, and manage contracts in today’s tech-driven legal world. With over 25 years of experience and a fast-growing global platform, Laura brings a human, strategic lens to commercial contracting. From viral cartoons and daily LinkedIn posts to billion-dollar deals, Laura shares how clarity, empathy, and creativity can change the way legal professionals approach their craft and how AI can support (but never replace) that nuance. What You’ll Learn: Why contracts are less about clauses and more about people What most lawyers miss when negotiating operational terms How Laura built a training movement with humor, cartoons, and daily content The role AI plays in speeding up the small stuff so humans can focus on big decisions How standard contract templates are reshaping negotiations and when to ignore them Why junior lawyers need more than playbooks; they need context, confidence, and coaching Episode ResourcesLaura Frederick LinkedIn How to Contract Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

The future of legal services is fundamentally changing, and AI is the reason for it. So, if one is to thrive in this new world, everything must change. In the latest episode of "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," hosts Memme Onwudiwe and Hal Marcus welcome Bjarne Tellmann, CEO of FjordStream Advisors and an experienced General Counsel and legal consultant, to explore the transformative impact of AI on the legal profession. What You’ll Learn: How AI advancement is exponentially transforming legal service delivery and business models Why the traditional billable hour model faces disruption as AI capabilities expand The essential skills modern General Counsel need - technology literacy and business acumen How law schools must evolve to incorporate practical skills, technology training, and business education Why cultural intelligence is crucial for legal leaders managing global teams The opportunities for young lawyers to reshape legal services through technology and entrepreneurship How legal departments must balance the "partner-guardian" tension while embracing technological change This episode proves that winning the game of adapting is not just about how fast you do it, but about how well you do it. Episode ResourcesBjarne Tellmann on LinkedIn FjordStream Advisors Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

AI brings fear along with opportunity. When uncertainty reigns, how can you surpass the fear and come out stronger on the other side? Welcome to “Meeting of Minds - The Legal AI Podcast.” In this episode, Hal and Memme sit with Oyango Snell, Executive Director of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC), to discuss his journey through the ins and outs of the legal profession and the crucial roles of legal operations and community in an increasingly AI-centric future. What You’ll Learn: How you can evolve from regular day-to-day operations to being a strategic part of the organization. How LinkedIn and professional networking are a great tool for career opportunities in legal operations. Why organizations should invest in legal operations to drive efficiency. How to execute leadership by building a diverse and inclusive team based on competencies. The need to build legal operation education initiatives like CLOC Academy. How to leverage AI in the work space rather than fear its evolution. Episode ResourcesOyango Snell LinkedIn CLOC Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

What does the intersection of HR, Legal, and AI look like? In this episode of "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort, a Workday company, it takes the shape of an eye-opening conversation with LaTanya Langley - Chief Legal Officer and Chief People Officer at Edgewell Personal Care. What You’ll Learn: How to tap into the unique synergies of the HR-Legal intersection The importance of adapting to and incorporating AI into legal education Navigating the ethical implications of AI in legal and HR functions The skill sets you need to thrive in the coming legal world Why professional risks and unconventional opportunities can lead to career growth and innovation For fresh perspectives on optimizing technology and AI use in legal, building a future-ready workforce, and leading with empathy, all you need to do is listen in. Episode ResourcesLaTanya Langley on LinkedIn Edgewell Personal Care Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this episode, Memme and Hal engage with Nancy Milinkovich, Senior Legal Operations Manager at Tricentis, exploring her unique journey from the world of tech to that of legal. Nancy shines a light on how her beginnings at the telecommunications company, Nortel Network, built a strong foundation in the realm of cutting-edge technology, exposing her to the importance of embracing and adopting disruptive tech and AI solutions, no matter the industry, as well as highlighting how skills can transfer across seemingly unrelated fields. The “Queen of Hopping Careers” further talks about how she made her way into legal, defying the traditional through self-learning, and how her understanding of people has taken her to the top; an understanding she values above all else. Through the course of the conversation, she also helps unpack the ins and outs of AI application in the world of legal today - the right tools to choose, how teams can and should embrace the “gray” of AI, using conversation-based programs in new ways and how different stakeholders in legal practices require different levels of technology adoption to make the entire ecosystem function smoothly! For eye-opening insights on the AI-Legal intersection today, and how to make the most of the moment, tune into this episode now! Get involved and tune in to this insightful episode now. Episode ResourcesNancy Milinkovich on LinkedIn Tricentis Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this episode, Memme and Hal engage with Brittany Leonard, Executive VP for the Association of Corporate Counsel for Central Florida and a respected voice in the in-house legal community. Brittany shares her journey from city government to becoming one of Florida's youngest general counsel, emphasizing how her business-first mindset transformed her approach to legal leadership. She discusses the importance of proactive problem-solving, building cross-departmental relationships, and embracing technology to drive business outcomes. Known as the "GC of LinkedIn" for her influential social media presence, Brittany offers practical insights on breaking down silos between legal and business teams, leveraging AI and technology, and finding fulfillment in legal careers. Her perspective on the evolving role of general counsel and the future of legal operations provides valuable guidance for legal professionals navigating today's changing landscape. If you're interested in learning how modern general counsel can drive business success while building meaningful relationships across organizations, this episode offers invaluable insights for legal professionals at all career stages. Get involved and tune in to this insightful episode now. Episode ResourcesBrittany Leonard LinkedIn Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

In this episode of Meeting of the Minds, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe wind down as they reflect on a year of insightful conversations with great leaders in legal technology - Jen McCarron, Mike Haven, Scott Westfahl, Connie Brenton, Carol Hopperton, Harold Wu, Emily LaCroix and Debbie Reynolds. Join in as they take another listen to evergreen insights from each thought leader, including: The evolution of legal operations featuring insights from Jen McCarron. The importance of data privacy regulations featuring insights from Connie Brenton. The transformative impact of AI on the legal profession featuring insights from Mike Haven. The role of empathy and Business Acumen in law featuring Scott Westfahl. The importance of data governance and the risk associated with AI featuring Emily LaCroix. The link between procurement and legal terms featuring Harold Wu. The need for data cleansing for effective AI use as shared by Debbie Reynolds Let’s take a walk down memory lane as the year comes to an end, shall we? Guests BioJen McCarron is the president of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) and a seasoned leader in legal operations, having previously led legal operations at Netflix. With a focus on the evolving landscape of legal operations, she emphasizes the importance of storytelling and data management in driving business outcomes. Jen’s leadership at CLOC underscores her commitment to advancing the profession and fostering innovation. Mike Haven is a prominent legal operations leader and the former Global Head Legal Operations at Intel, recently transitioning into a similar role at Meta. As a past president of CLOC, Mike has been instrumental in shaping the legal operations field, particularly through his work on the Sense Collective. Scott Westfahl serves as a Professor of Practice and the Faculty Director of Executive Education at Harvard Law School. His experience lies on the intersection of legal education and technology. Scott advocates for the development of human skills which are essential for lawyers to thrive alongside advancing technologies. Connie Brenton is a trailblazer in the legal operations field, known for her leadership roles at major corporations, including NetApp, and as a co-founder of LegalOps.com. Connie’s extensive experience and community-building efforts within the legal operations space have been pivotal in fostering innovation. Carol Hopperton is a seasoned legal operations professional with a diverse career that includes leading legal operations at Vonage and navigating the complexities of the legal landscape through various roles. Her insights into the practical aspects of legal operations, particularly in maintaining and optimizing implemented technologies, highlight the importance of continuous improvement in legal service delivery. Harold Wu is the Chief Procurement Officer at T.Rowe Price, where he has successfully saved the company millions annually through strategic procurement practices. His insights into the changing dynamics of procurement, particularly the balance between cost savings and operational efficiency provide a fresh perspective on the interconnectedness of legal and procurement functions. Emily LaCroix is the Global Data Protection Officer at Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance, where she focuses on the intersection of data privacy and legal operations. With a background that blends traditional legal roles with a focus on product and data governance, Emily offers a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities presented by AI. Debbie Reynolds, known as the Data Diva is a consultant and advisor specializing in data privacy and governance. With extensive experience working with major law firms. Debbie’s insights into the complexities of data privacy laws and the importance of data cleansing are invaluable to organizations navigating the regulatory landscape. Her expertise in connecting data privacy strategies with practical implementation makes a sought-after voice in discussions about the implications of AI and data management in the legal field. Episode HighlightsThe Power of Storytelling in Legal Operations (06:25) Jen McCarron emphasizes the role of storytelling in crafting data in legal operations and how that improves the communication of value, making it easier to collaborate and achieve the goals in an organization.Embracing Human Skills in a Tech-Driven World (12:48) Scott Westfahl shares why the ability to merge legal and soft skills is the evolution of work. His perspective on legal education reminds us that those who are able to blend technical skills with strong interpersonal abilities will be better positioned to succeed.The Evolving Role of Procurement in the Legal Industry (20:32) Harold Wu teaches that the legal industry must adapt to a new reality that allows for a closely knit collaboration with procurement in order to ultimately drive better business outcomes.Balancing AI Enthusiasm with Governance (24:12) Emily LaCroix’s insights balances the need for ensuring that the adoption of AI is properly explored while also safeguarding organizations from substantial risks.The Importance of Data Cleansing for AI Success (27:56) Debbie Reynolds emphasizes the need for data cleansing and warns against the danger of using unstructured data. She advises that the data fed into the AI systems must be quality and structured data to avoid ineffectiveness and potential AI pitfalls.A New Chapter for Evisort (30:35) The hosts reveal that Evisort has been acquired by Workday and that this acquisition aligns with the long-term vision of enhancing the value of contracts and legal documents across organizations. They express excitement as this development sets the stage for innovative advancements and shows the importance of integrating legal data with broader business functions. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this episode, Memme and Hal chat with “The Data Diva” Debbie Reynolds, founder of Debbie Reynolds Consulting. This conversation explores the critical intersection of data privacy, AI, and emerging technologies. Debbie shares her approach to advising major corporations like PayPal, Coca-Cola, and Uber on data privacy strategy. She emphasizes the importance of having strong data governance before implementing AI solutions, warning that "garbage in" leads to "junkyard out." Using a creative barbecue analogy, Debbie explains how companies can navigate the complex patchwork of privacy regulations across jurisdictions. She offers practical insights on crafting effective data strategies and managing third-party relationships through contracts. The conversation highlights how ChatGPT and similar tools have democratized AI, creating new privacy challenges that organizations must address. While many are excited about AI's operational potential, Debbie advocates for careful implementation and strong governance frameworks. If you're interested in understanding how to balance innovation with data protection in the AI era, this episode offers valuable insights for legal professionals, privacy experts, and business leaders. Get involved and tune in to this fascinating episode now. Episode ResourcesDebbie Reynolds on LinkedIn Debbie Reynolds Consulting Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this episode, Memme and Hal engage with Emily LaCroix, Global Data Protection Officer at Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance. Recorded on-site at Harvard Law School during the Executive Innovation Summit, this conversation delves into Emily's unique career trajectory, including her transition from Chief Product Counsel to her current role. Emily discusses the evolving landscape of data protection, emphasizing the importance of practical application in a complex regulatory environment. Though many of her colleagues are excited about the operational improvements, to remain ethical and compliant, perhaps uptake needs to slow down, and the introduction of strong governance needs to speed up! She goes on to share innumerable insights on managing contracts as a core component of the insurance business and highlights her experiences in building compliance frameworks that integrate with business strategy. If you're interested in exploring how AI tools are enhancing contract analysis, data governance, and risk management in the insurance sector, this episode is a must-listen. Episode ResourcesEmily Lacroix on LinkedIn Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we delve into the dynamic world of legal AI, exploring the critical intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Memme and Hal as they converse with industry leaders, legal experts, and innovators to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and breakthroughs in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions. In this episode, we're thrilled to welcome Harold Wu, Chief Procurement Officer at T. Rowe Price. Harold brings a wealth of experience in scaling operations and integrating technology to optimize business outcomes. Join us as we discuss Harold’s journey through the evolving landscape of procurement operations and the strategic role AI plays in enhancing efficiency and transparency within organizations. Throughout the conversation, Harold shares his experiences on the frontlines of operational transformation, offering insights into the complexities of global operations in a rapidly changing digital world. He emphasizes the importance of leveraging AI to streamline processes, reduce risk, and improve decision-making across business units. Harold also delves into the challenges of maintaining compliance and operational consistency while scaling a global organization, highlighting the vital role of technology in achieving these goals. With a career spanning various high-impact roles in technology and media companies, Harold has been at the forefront of integrating AI and legal technology to drive business success. His leadership in transforming operational frameworks and his strategic approach to implementing AI in contract management are reshaping how modern organizations approach legal operations. If you're interested in how AI can revolutionize legal operations, enhance compliance, and drive business efficiency, this episode is a must-listen. Harold Wu’s expertise and forward-thinking perspective offer valuable insights for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of global business in the digital age. Episode Highlights0:00 - Intro 2:25 - Introduction to Harold Wu and T. Rowe Price 4:13 - Procurement Contracts: Legal vs. Commercial Perspectives 5:41 - The Necessity of Artful Legal Language 11:26 - The Art of Contract Negotiation: Bridging Legal and Business Needs 12:11 - Creating a Single Source of Truth: The Role of AI in Contract Management 18:01 - Navigating Regulatory Changes: The Power of Procurement-Legal Collaboration 21:25 - The Role of Commercial Terms in Cost Reduction 22:55 - Building a Knowledge Base for Contract Management 25:34 - Evaluating AI Tools for Contract Management 27:39 - Changes in Procurement Focus: Friction and Velocity 29:31 - Advice for Legal Leaders on Collaboration with Procurement Episode ResourcesHarold Wu Bio on T. Rowe Price Website T. Rowe Price Website Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we explore the transformative world of legal AI, focusing on the innovative intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Hal and Memme, as they engage with industry leaders, legal experts, and tech visionaries to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions. Our special guest today is Carol Hopperton, Legal Chief of Staff at Vonage. Join us as we explore the benefits of technology in the legal field and Carol’s personal experiences with implementing it. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the needs of different teams and customizing technology solutions to improve efficiency. Carol also provides insights on managing acquisitions and mergers successfully. If you're interested in learning how technology can enhance legal operations and drive business outcomes, this podcast is a must-listen. With a distinguished career that spans prominent technology companies in both the US and UK, Carol has been instrumental in driving business and operational efficiencies through the strategic use of legal technology solutions. Her efforts in establishing a global Legal Operations function at Vonage and her transformative work as VP of Legal Affairs at New Voice Media, leading up to its successful sale to Vonage, underscore her innovative approach to modernizing traditional legal teams. Carol's expertise in aligning commercial and legal support with business goals through automation, process improvement, and team restructuring has set new standards for legal departments aiming for scalability and responsiveness. Her insights into the future of legal tech, particularly in contract management and operational optimization, make her a leading voice in the field. Episode Highlights02:44 - Carol’s Journey 10:24 - Driving Adoption in Legal Organizations 15:22 - Extracting Valuable Data for Key Players 18:57 - Self-Service Workflow Tools 20:57 - The Benefits of Exposure to Multiple Specialist Areas 24:39 - Engaging with Non-Legal Teams 27:01 - Managing Acquisitions 33:22 - Future of Commercial Contracting 37:20 - Mindset Shifts with the Era of ChatGPT 41:27 - Advice for Young Legal Operations Managers Episode ResourcesCarol Hopperton on LinkedIn Vonage Website Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we explore the transformative world of legal AI, focusing on the innovative intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Hal and Memme, as they engage with industry leaders, legal experts, and tech visionaries to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions. Our special guest today is Connie Brenton, Founder and CEO of LegalOps.com. Join us as we discuss the impact of artificial intelligence on the legal profession. Connie emphasizes the importance of running legal like a business while collaborating with IT departments and staying up-to-date with AI technologies. She shares insights on automating tedious work, elevating the role of legal operations, and leveraging AI for a competitive advantage. Connie has been named one of Business Insider's Top 10 Notable Power Players Innovating the Legal Industry. She is the CEO and Founder of LegalOps.com, a community uniting the entire legal ecosystem to drive competitive advantages. As one of the first Legal Operations professionals in the industry, Connie founded and was CEO of CLOC (Corporate Legal Operations Consortium), where she defined legal operations as we currently understand it. LegalOps.com is a culmination of her 20+ years of expertise and innovation in the industry, building community and driving leadership. Connie started her Legal Operations career at Sun Microsystems and then launched the Legal Operations functions at Oracle and NetApp, where she served as Vice President of Law, Technology, and Operations. Chapters00:00 - Intro 02:30 - Introduction to Legal Operations 04:43 - Legal Operations as a business strategy 07:12 - The Evolution of Legal Operations 15:25 - Collaboration between Legal Operations and IT 18:54 - Skill Sets of a Legal Operations Leader 26:02 - How AI Impacts Day to Day Working in Legal Operations 31:03 - The Future of Legal Operations is Data, Data, Data Episode ResourcesConnie Brenton on LinkedIn LegalOps.com Website Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Evisort Website Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we explore the transformative world of legal AI, focusing on the innovative intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Hal and Memme, as they engage with industry leaders, legal experts, and tech visionaries to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions. Our special guest today is Scott Westfahl, the Professor of Practice and Faculty Director of Executive Education at Harvard Law School. Join us as we discuss the impact of generative AI on the legal profession, the need for lawyers to develop essential skills like empathy and curiosity, and how AI can free up time for more meaningful tasks. Scott also offers insights into the challenges and opportunities of adopting AI in law firms, and how the legal profession might evolve and embrace innovation. After practicing law for ten years, Scott led professional development at McKinsey & Company's Washington, D.C. office for six years, then served as Director of Professional Development at Goodwin Procter LLP, and led the building of a professional development team and program. In 2013, Scott joined the Harvard Law School faculty, where he currently leads the HLS Executive Education Program, teaches in the school's J.D. program and collaborates on case writing and research. Scott has won three national awards for designing iStaff, a web-based associate assignment database that links work assignments to professional development goals, and was named one of five "Innovators of the Year" by Law Firm, Inc. magazine in 2008. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Chapters00:00 - Intro 01:33 - Scott Westfahl’s Role at Harvard Law School 05:42 - Why Law is the Least Self-Reflective of Professions 11:10 - Changes to the Billable Hour Model 15:10 - The Impact of Generative AI on the Legal Profession 23:50 - Improving Mental Health in the Legal Profession 26:25 - Is Legal Ready for Generative AI? 35:19 - Legal Profession vs. Legal Industry Episode ResourcesScott Westfahl on LinkedIn Harvard Law School Website Hal Marcus on LinkedIn Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn Evisort Website Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so