Risky Business Stories

In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a historical dive into hacking in the 1980s. Through the words of those that were there, they discuss life on the ARPANET, the 414s hacking group, the Morris Worm, the vibe inside the NSA and a parallel hunt for German hackers happening at a similar time to Cliff Stoll’s famous Cuckoo’s Egg story. This podcast features the memories of: Jon Callas, former principal software engineer at Digital Equipment Corporation Mark Rasch, Morris Worm prosecutor Timothy Winslow, former 414 hacker Greg Chartrand, author of Cracking the Cuckoos Egg and Tony Sager, former NSA How the World Got Owned is produced in partnership with SentinelOne.