The Quantum Economy Podcast

Time feels obvious to us. It flows from the past to the present and into the future. But in modern physics, time is anything but simple.In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with theoretical physicist Dr. Sravan Kumar about one of the deepest mysteries in physics: the nature of time, black holes, and whether information can truly disappear from the universe.Dr. Kumar’s recent work revisits Einstein–Rosen bridges – structures often associated with wormholes – and proposes a new interpretation of how spacetime, quantum mechanics, and gravity might be connected. The conversation explores questions such as whether the universe could contain two arrows of time, how the black hole information paradox might be resolved, and what these ideas could mean for the future of physics.Dr. Sravan Kumar is a theoretical physicist whose research focuses on quantum gravity, black holes, and the early universe. His work explores how quantum mechanics and gravity may ultimately be unified to better understand the fundamental structure of reality. The discussion became a fascinating exploration at the intersection of physics, philosophy, and the deeper questions about the universe.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction01:54 Exploring the Nature of Time06:49 Cultural Influences on Scientific Inquiry11:51 The Journey into Quantum Gravity16:29 Einstein-Rosen Bridges and Information Paradox21:45 Two Arrows of Time and Information Preservation26:37 The Emergence of Time and the Big Bang31:13 Quantum Computing and Time Symmetry46:10 Understanding Control in Quantum Systems49:13 Simulating Quantum Gravity and Cosmic Phenomena51:55 The Simulation Hypothesis and Its Implications54:58 Exploring Information First Ontology57:58 The Future of Quantum Computing and Society01:02:09 Entanglement and Its Role in Space-Time01:04:56 Consciousness and Quantum Mechanics01:10:55 The Challenge of AI Hallucinations01:18:59 Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration for ProgressAbout Sravan Kumarhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/k-sravan-kumar-a0b45b72/A new understanding of Einstein–Rosen bridges: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6382/ae3044  Other relevant detailed papers https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/1/29 https://academic.oup.com/ptep/article/2024/12/123E01/7911842 https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/7/1056 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1475-7516/2024/06/001 Schrodinger's expanding Universes paper first pointed about Universe with two arrows of time: https://www.cambridge.org/gb/universitypress/subjects/physics/cosmology-relativity-and-gravitation/expanding-universe?format=PB&isbn=9780521172172  About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economyhttps://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Pavel Hrmo, CEO and co-founder of ZuriQ — a Swiss quantum computing startup spun out of ETH Zürich.ZuriQ is taking a radically different approach to one of quantum computing’s biggest challenges: scalability. Instead of relying on traditional one-dimensional ion chains, Dr. Hrmo and his team are developing a reconfigurable two-dimensional ion array using Penning trap architecture — a breakthrough that could unlock a new path toward large-scale, practical quantum systems.Together, Anders and Pavel explore whether trapped-ion systems could become the foundation of scalable quantum computing, how ZuriQ’s architecture differs from players like IonQ and Quantinuum, and how Europe positions itself in the global quantum race.They also dive into deeper questions:When will quantum computing create real economic impact?How will AI and quantum computing converge?Will AI accelerate quantum breakthroughs — or will quantum redefine AI?Are there fundamental limits to computation and energy?And are we approaching a “post-theory” era where machines outperform human understanding?From error correction and qubit scaling to AGI, creativity, and the philosophy of technology, this episode explores the intersection of physics, artificial intelligence, and the future of human agency in a world increasingly shaped by advanced computation.A conversation about quantum systems and the limits of human understanding.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction01:51 Quantum Computing Innovations04:59 ZuriQ’s Unique Approach to Scaling Qubits07:30 Challenges and Opportunities in Quantum Computing10:44 Comparing Quantum Technologies: Trapped Ions vs. Others13:36 The Role of Engineering and Physics in Quantum Development16:41 Economic Implications of Quantum Computing19:38 The Future of Quantum Ecosystems22:31 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI25:54 The Nature of Creativity in AI and Quantum28:38 Philosophical Implications of AI and Quantum Computing34:04 The Intersection of AI and Human Creativity36:34 The Limitations of AI in Understanding41:03 Quantum Computing and Its Implications43:58 The Role of Human Judgment in an AI-Driven World48:07 The Future of Quantum Computing and Its Challenges56:44 Ethical Considerations in AI and Quantum Technology58:47 The Future of ZuriQ and European Tech LandscapeAbout Pavel Hrmohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pavel-hrmo/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economy: https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

What does it really take to make quantum computers work at scale? Anders Indset hosts Steve Brierley, founder & CEO of Riverlane, to unpack fault-tolerant quantum computing's potential to revolutionize chemistry, materials science, and climate tech.Discover why qubits are so fragile, how 25 years of error rate improvements still fall short, and the trillion-operation leap needed for real-world impact. Steve reveals Riverlane's real-time error correction stack—accelerating hardware roadmaps by 3-5 years across superconducting, trapped ions, neutral atoms, silicon spins, and NV centers.Key insights:Crossing the QEC threshold: From 1,000 to billions of error-free operationsQuantum + AI/HPC: Hybrid workflows for next-gen supercomputingFirst applications: Quantum chemistry, materials design, efficient catalystsQuantum computers as "programmable models of nature" for new physics discoveriesThey also tackle big questions: Are quantum machines or nature's simulators? Can quantum-AI uncover new elements or physical laws? Is consciousness computable?00:00 Introduction01:37 The Fragility of Qubits and Error Correction04:40 Engineering Challenges in Quantum Computing07:40 Exploring Different Qubit Modalities11:48 Commercial Pathways for Quantum Computing13:58 The Role of Quantum Computing in Chemistry18:40 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI21:33 Quantum Mechanics: A Model of Nature24:39 Exploring New Physics with Quantum Computers34:34 Exploring Quantum Simulations and Reality37:36 The Future of Quantum Computing and AI Convergence42:07 The Implications of AI and Quantum Technologies49:24 The Nature of Consciousness and Human Uniqueness56:20 The Future of Quantum Error Correction and Industry ImpactAbout Steve Brierleyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-brierley-72127a142/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economyhttps://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttps://x.com/AndersIndset

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Enrique Solano (CEO of Kipu Quantum) about the future of quantum computing, quantum AI, and artificial intelligence — and why waiting for a universal, fault-tolerant quantum computer may be the biggest mistake in the industry.Solano challenges the dominant narrative around quantum technology. Universal quantum computers are not imminent, logical qubits are not yet scalable, and noisy quantum hardware is not useless — it’s an opportunity.At the center of the conversation is his concept of quantum intelligence: hybrid classical-quantum systems that combine quantum computing and AI to unlock reasoning beyond both human cognition and classical supercomputers.A sharp and contrarian discussion about quantum advantage, quantum-enhanced machine learning, AI hallucinations, and whether intelligence truly requires consciousness.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction01:48 Unconventional Thinking04:30 The Role of Creativity in the Age of AI07:34 Challenges in Quantum Computing10:40 The Reality of Quantum Hardware13:38 Exploring Quantum Applications and Limitations16:53 The Future of Quantum Computing and Its Impact19:39 Innovations at Kipu Quantum22:43 Commercial Implications of Quantum Technologies38:38 Advancements in Quantum Computing and AI41:03 The Future of Quantum Intelligence47:06 Philosophical Perspectives on Reality and Consciousness53:39 The Nature of Human Intelligence vs. AI59:04 The Vision for Artificial Human Intelligence01:07:54 Promising Developments for Humanity's FutureAbout Enrique Solanohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-solano-812631154/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economy: https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Carlos Moreira, founder and CEO of WISeKey and SEALSQ, one of the world’s leading voices on digital trust, cybersecurity, quantum security, and sovereign technology. Recorded around the World Economic Forum in Davos, the conversation explores why trust has become critical infrastructure in the quantum age.Moreira reflects on his three-decade journey from early work with the United Nations and the origins of the web in Geneva to building a global trust ecosystem spanning digital identity, post-quantum cryptography, semiconductors, satellites, and quantum computing. He explains why trust in the quantum era cannot be treated as a feature layered on top of technology, but must be embedded at the architectural level — comparable to energy grids or financial systems.Together, they discuss quantum security, the coming “Q-Day”, the geopolitical implications of technology sovereignty, and why Europe must learn to scale global technology champions. The conversation also examines how quantum computing will reshape encryption, finance, AI, and digital identity, and what this means for governments, companies, and society.Moreira shares his long-term vision for a human-centric digital future, where technology strengthens resilience, autonomy, and consent rather than control.A focused, wide-ranging, and deeply personal conversation with one of the architects shaping the foundations of trust in the Fourth Industrial Revolution.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction01:32 The Importance of Trust in Technology04:42 Sovereignty and Decentralization in Technology07:15 The Evolution of Digital Trust10:22 Building a Trust Infrastructure13:37 The Role of Quantum Computing16:30 The Urgency of Post-Quantum Security19:22 The Future of Identity and Consent22:20 Cultural Shifts in Identity and Trust34:32 The Evolution of Digital Identity37:45 Empowering Individuals in the Digital Age42:35 AI as a Tool for Enhanced Decision-Making50:50 The Intersection of Humanity and Technology57:19 The Future of Human Enhancement and Technology01:02:37 Innovations on the Horizon: WISeKey and SEALSQAbout Carlos Moreirahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/carloscreusmoreira/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economy: https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

Anders Indset sits down with Steve Suarez – Founder & CEO of HorizonX, global quantum strategist, and former Global Head of Innovation at HSBC.Steve explains how he fell in love with quantum technologies, why he created the Quantum Index, and what the data reveals about the industries and countries leading the global quantum race.Together, Anders and Steve explore the future of quantum computing, the risks of hype, and why executive education is crucial for navigating the next wave of technological change. They also discuss the growing competition between Europe, the U.S., and the Middle East, and why the Gulf region is rapidly becoming a major deep-tech hub.They reflect on the wider impact of emerging technologies, from new materials to personalized medicine, and why the coming decade may reshape how we think about innovation, value creation, and the role of humans in a rapidly accelerating world.Here’s the breakdown of the episode:00:00 Introduction01:50 Foundations of the Quantum Era11:42 Education, Measurement & the Reality of Quantum Progress20:02 The Quantum Index in Action31:45 Global Quantum Dynamics & Competitive Landscapes39:45 Quantum Technology’s Impact on Society & Work49:05 Consciousness, Technology & the Future of RealityAbout Steve Suarezhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesuarez/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643⁠https://andersindset.com/⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andersindset⁠⁠http://x.com/andersindset

A Manufacturing Story with Prineha NarangHow is quantum science becoming something we can build?In this episode, Anders Indset talks with Prineha Narang, Professor at UCLA and Visiting Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. She is a pioneering scientist, engineer, and entrepreneur shaping the future of quantum technologies.Together, they explore how quantum science moves from the lab into real-world impact – transforming manufacturing, expanding the frontiers of computation, and reshaping our idea of progress. From quantum materials and AI integration to the rise of a quantum economy that creates new industries, jobs, and influences how we live and transform as a society, this conversation explores the making of a new scientific and industrial age.More about Prineha Naranghttps://www.linkedin.com/in/prineha/https://naranglab.ucla.edu/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOK – The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643⁠Web: https://andersindset.com/⁠⁠Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset⁠⁠X: http://x.com/andersindset

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Professor Marius Grundmann—co-founder & co-CEO of SaxonQ, world-leading semiconductor physicist (h-index ~95), and author of the standard textbook The Physics of Semiconductors. Grundmann and SaxonQ are pioneering nitrogen-vacancy (NV) centres in diamond to build mobile, room-temperature quantum computers—a bold challenge to today’s cryogenic approaches.Anders and Marius dive straight into the hard questions: Why have NV centres been pigeonholed into sensing and communication, and what’s changed to make computing not only possible, but scalable? From materials science to machine architecture, this is a rare, deeply technical conversation that also grapples with the societal stakes of quantum.Together, they explore:From Defect to Qubit – How NV⁻ centres in diamond use electron and nuclear spins, and why room-temperature operation matters.The Breakthrough: Reproducibly fabricating coupled NV pairs at nanometre precision—the crucial first step to scaling entangled qubits.Materials Mastery – Diamond quality, nitrogen + sulfur implantation to boost NV yield and purity, and avoiding defect noise.Error Protection & Fidelity – Why NV platforms start with exceptionally high fidelities, and how clustering electron–nuclear spins supports fault tolerance.Scaling Roadmap – From 2→4→8 NVs, adding ~10 nearby nuclei per NV (~80 qubits per core), then multi-core diamond chips to rapidly reach 10,000+ fully entangled qubits.Compute vs. Cryo – The room-temperature advantage vs. superconducting and trapped-ion systems; fewer wires, less overhead, more portability.Software Path – “Code-to-chip” execution via Qiskit/Cirq/OpenQASM, stable calibration, and leveraging native gates/topologies.Near-Term ROI – Quantum-enhanced AI/ML (QCNNs, attention), optimization with lower energy costs, and materials simulation for real industrial impact.Progress & Risk – Funding, talent, and why standard semiconductor tools are “almost good enough” to build what comes next.Philosophy & Mind – Consciousness, quantum in biology, and how science and philosophy can (and must) co-evolve.This is a precise, no-hype exploration of a contrarian thesis: diamonds aren’t just for sensing—diamonds can compute. If Grundmann is right, NV-centre quantum could become the dark horse that reshapes the field.Whether you’re a technologist, strategist, investor, or philosopher at heart, this conversation will challenge assumptions and expand your map of what’s possible at the intersection of quantum physics, AI, and human agency.Links & ResourcesAbout Marius Grundmannhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/marius-grundmann-7a088962/ https://www.saxonq.com/en/ About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.com – podcast@thequantumeconomy.comListen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiast. Subscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with John Levy, CEO and co-founder of SEEQC – a pioneer in superconducting quantum chip design. Their conversation explores the frontiers of computing, capitalism, and consciousness in a world shaped by quantum technology.Together, they explore:The scalability of superconducting quantum chipsWhy the quantum ecosystem is not a winner-take-all market The critical role of quantum error correctionThe emergence of "quantum natives" and what this means for human evolutionWhether you're a deep-tech entrepreneur, quantum enthusiast, or future thinker – this is a must-hear dialogue on the architecture of tomorrow’s economy.Links & ResourcesAbout John Levy: https://seeqc.com/about/leadership/john-levyBooks mentioned:Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology by Chris Miller: https://www.amazon.com/Chip-War-Worlds-Critical-Technology/dp/1668012057 Rise of the Machines: A Cybernetic History by Thomas Rid: https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Machines-Cybernetic-Thomas-Rid/dp/0393354954The Rigor of Angels: Borges, Heisenberg, Kant, and the Ultimate Nature of Reality by William Egginton: https://www.amazon.com/Rigor-Angels-Heisenberg-Ultimate-Reality/dp/0593316304The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: podcast@thequantumeconomy.com About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https:///www.singularityparadox.com Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please: Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiastSubscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy.

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with John Martinis, Nobel Prize–winning physicist (Nobel Prize in Physics, 2025) and one of the key architects of modern quantum computing, recorded at the World Economic Forum in DavosMartinis reflects on his journey from early superconducting qubit experiments to the landmark quantum supremacy breakthrough at Google, and explains why building a scalable quantum computer is ultimately a systems-engineering challenge where manufacturability matters as much as physics. He shares his perspective on how quantum computing will complement classical computing and AI, why meaningful economic impact will take time, and why progress is likely to be slower—but ultimately deeper—than today’s hype suggests. A focused and personal conversation with one of the scientists who helped turn quantum computing from theory into reality.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction00:59 Quantum Supremacy03:57 Engineer vs. Physicist07:17 The Feynman Moment11:16 Scaling Quantum Computing20:42 From Academia to Industry28:53 Economics of Quantum36:52 Where the Real Synergies Lie39:36 Consciousness, Language & the Limits of Computation55:22 Why Progress Still MattersAbout John Martinishttps://www.linkedin.com/in/john-martinis-5856911a6/ https://www.physics.ucsb.edu/people/john-martinisAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOK:The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Loïc Henriet, CEO of Pasqal, about quantum computing as it moves from theory into reality.They discuss how quantum technology is leaving the lab, why neutral-atom processors are emerging as a scalable path, and how quantum will complement classical computing and AI rather than replace them. The conversation includes a clear 2026 outlook, explores Europe’s role in technological sovereignty, and opens a philosophical discussion on emergence, responsibility, and what quantum technology could mean for human agency in a world shaped by supercomputing.A focused conversation on quantum advantage, leadership, and what it truly means for breakthrough science to become real.Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction02:11 From Curiosity to Capability08:01 Between Promise and Reality13:18 From Lab to Market18:25 Quantum as a Strategic Asset25:02 Quantum Meets AI35:35 Measuring Progress43:06 Technology, Responsibility and Society47:31 A Reflective View on Quantum’s FutureAbout Loïc Henriethttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lo%C3%AFc-henriet-974b2a53/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosopher and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.⁠https://andersindset.com/⁠⁠https://tomorrowmensch.com/⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/andersindset⁠⁠http://x.com/andersindset⁠NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Andrew Cheung, Founder and CEO of 01 Quantum, about Q-Day, quantum computing, and the security risks already emerging today. They discuss why data can be stolen now and decrypted later, why the transition to quantum-safe security is more complex than most expect, and why execution speed matters more than technological hype.A conversation about trust, leadership, and security in a post-quantum world.Here’s the breakdown of the episode:00:00 Introduction01:52 Quantum Reality Check09:26 Understanding the Quantum Risk23:01 The Quantum Security Dilemma32:44 The Global Quantum Race37:09 Making Quantum Security Real44:13 What Comes NextAbout Andrew Cheunghttps://www.linkedin.com/in/acheungquantum/?originalSubdomain=caAnders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.NEW BOOK – The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261About Anders Indsethttps://andersindset.com/https://tomorrowmensch.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Johan Strömqvist – Founder & CEO of Single Technologies and a pioneer of 3-D DNA sequencing.Johan shares how his background in physics, photonics, and biotechnology led to the development of the world’s fastest 3-D imaging system and a radically new way to read the code of life.Together, Anders and Johan explore how biology is becoming programmable and why 3-D sequencing could transform what’s possible in life sciences. They discuss how AI and future quantum technologies may accelerate breakthroughs in genomics, synthetic biology, and regenerative medicine — from organs-on-demand to new ways of understanding the human brain.They also reflect on global competition in deep tech, Sweden’s role as an innovation hub, and the ethical implications of a world where life itself becomes writable code.Here’s the breakdown of the episode:00:00 Introduction01:55 From Engineering to Biotech06:51 The Rise of 3D Sequencing12:19 Making Life Visible19:45 The Economics of Sequencing & Understanding Cells27:29 Life Sciences Meets AI37:51 Building Deep Tech53:41 Ethics & the Future of Life EngineeringAbout Johan Strömqvisthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-str%C3%B6mqvist-5702492b/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643https://andersindset.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Liz Parrish – CEO of BioViva, pioneering advocate for gene therapies, and likely the world’s most gene-modified person.Drawing from her personal journey – from her son’s type 1 diabetes diagnosis to her own decision to undergo multiple gene therapies – Liz shares how she became one of the most influential voices in longevity and regenerative medicine.Together, they explore why aging may become optional, how regulation is slowing down life-saving innovation, and how gene therapy could progress from a frontier technology to a universal tool for human health.These are the topics Liz and Anders are talking about:00:00 Introduction01:49 The Journey into Gene Therapy13:14 Innovation Through Breaking Boundaries21:41 The Biology of Tomorrow36:24 Where Technology Meets Life46:16 The Coming Human Future01:01:37 Consciousness, Experience, and the Human ConditionAbout Liz Parrishhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lizlparrish/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643https://andersindset.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Alex Challans, CEO and co-founder of Resonance, the company behind The Quantum Insider — the leading global platform for intelligence and media in quantum technology.Alex reflects on the early days of building The Quantum Insider and how Resonance has grown into a major deep-tech intelligence powerhouse. He shares why the quantum industry has moved from niche academic circles into a rapidly expanding global ecosystem powered by scientists, founders, investors, and governments.Together, they explore the rise of the quantum economy, the convergence of quantum, AI, and space technologies, and how capital, timing, and technological breakthroughs are reshaping industries far beyond computing. Alex also gives a behind-the-scenes look at Our Quantum Future, Resonance’s new documentary highlighting where the next decade of quantum innovation may take us.These are the topics Alex and Anders are talking about:(00:00) Introduction(01:48)  Entering the Quantum Era(10:45)  Navigating the Emerging Quantum Landscape(19:28)  Timing, Adoption & the Role of Government(29:49)  The Rise of the Quantum Economy(40:41)  Quantum–AI Interaction and Financial Infrastructures(54:25)  Shifting Market Dynamics and Our Quantum FutureAbout Alex Challanshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchallans/About Our Quantum Futurehttps://ourquantumfuture.com/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643https://andersindset.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Ben Bloom, co-founder and CEO of Atom Computing – one of the pioneers of neutral-atom quantum computers. From optical control and logical qubits to the next industrial revolution in materials science, Bloom shares how his team is scaling systems from thousands to tens of thousands of qubits and why this moment might mark the beginning of a new computational era.These are the topics Ben and Anders are talking about:(00:00) Introduction  (01:59) The Quantum Capital Debate  (04:13) Neutral Atoms in Quantum Computing  (06:00) Engineering Challenges and Scaling  (09:57) The Role of Classical Control  (11:40) Exotic Approaches and Future of Quantum  (15:25) The Journey of a Founder  (21:57) The Future of Quantum and AI Collaboration  (27:31) Societal Implications of Quantum Computing  (32:35) Scepticism and Optimism in AGI Development  (38:48) Industrial Use Cases and Implications  (42:13) Government's Role in Quantum Computing and Regulation  (45:02) Quantum vs. AI  (50:58) The Future of Manufacturing and Material Revolution  (54:10) Philosophical Implication on Quantum Mechanics  (58:06) Atom’s FutureMore about Ben Bloomhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-bloom-8871598/https://atom-computing.com/About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643https://andersindset.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

How are we building the quantum future responsibly?Anders Indset speaks with Nick Farina, co-founder and CEO of EeroQ, a company taking one of the most unconventional paths in the race for scalable quantum systems: trapped electrons on liquid helium.They explore how quantum progress unfolds – not in one defining moment, but through interlinked advances that amplify each other. From the physics of floating electrons to the philosophy of progress, this episode dives deep into how we can balance ambition and awareness as science, markets, and ethics converge to shape our shared future.More about Nick Farinahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/nickfarina/https://eeroq.comhttps://x.com/nick_farinaAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643https://andersindset.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/https://www.instagram.com/andersindsethttp://x.com/andersindset

What if reality itself is made of information?In this mind-expanding episode, Anders Indset speaks with Vlatko Vedral, Professor of Quantum Information Science at Oxford University — one of the world’s leading thinkers on quantum physics, information, and consciousness.Together, they explore how quantum mechanics, information, and mind may be part of one continuous reality — and why this understanding could transform not only science — but our very idea of what it means to be human.In This Episode• Why quantum mechanics may be the universal theory of everything• The five “portals” redefining our view of time, gravity, life, and consciousness• Schrödinger’s real vision behind the “many worlds” concept• How quantum information could explain life, thought, and reality itselfA profound and accessible dialogue where science meets philosophy — and where the future of understanding begins.About Vlatko VedralLinkedInvlatkovedral.comPortals to a New Reality: Five Pathways to the Future of Physics https://www.amazon.com/dp/1541604784About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series exploring quantum theory, quantum tech, AI, and the evolution of intelligence — and how these forces redefine economy, value creation, and the future of human systems.Learn more: thequantumeconomy.comContact: podcast@thequantumeconomy.comYouTube PlaylistSpotifyApple PodcastsAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643andersindset.comLinkedInInstagramXSupport & ShareIf this conversation expanded your perspective on quantum physics, quantum tech, and the future of economy, please: Like, comment, and share it with a fellow quantum enthusiastSubscribe for future conversations with the thinkers and practitioners shaping the quantum economy.#QuantumPhysics #Consciousness #InformationTheory #AndersIndset #VlatkoVedral #QuantumEconomyPodcast

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset is joined by Chris Ballance — co-founder and CEO of Oxford Ionics, a pioneer in trapped-ion quantum computing and now part of IonQ.Chris is a physicist turned entrepreneur whose journey from Oxford’s quantum labs to leading one of the world’s most advanced quantum hardware teams reflects a rare blend of scientific precision and pragmatic vision.Their conversation explores the intersection of quantum physics, technology, business, and philosophy — from the limits of error correction to the coming fusion of AI, consciousness, and computation.At the heart of the dialogue is Chris’s conviction: that progress depends on better engineering, not blind faith in algorithms — and that humanity’s greatest strength lies in its capacity to adapt and create meaning through science and technology.Together, they discuss:Why error correction isn’t magic — and why quantum computing starts with better qubitsHow trapped-ion systems could outperform other quantum architectures in scalability and economicsThe art of turning deep tech into business — and why unit economics decide who winsHow energy, computation, and intelligence are converging toward a new economic paradigmThe blurred line between AI, consciousness, and human agency — and what it means to “stay human”Why optimism is still the most radical stance in technologyFor anyone curious about how quantum computing, AI, and human ingenuity intersect — this episode offers both insight and inspiration for the future we’re already building.About Chris Ballancehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-ballance/?originalSubdomain=ukhttps://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Computing-Babies-Baby-University/dp/1492671185A series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at  thequantumeconomy.comContact: podcast@thequantumeconomy.comYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Links & ResourcesOfficial Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindsetX: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please: Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiast.Subscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy.

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Matthew Kinsella — CEO of Infleqtion, one of the world’s leading quantum technology companies pioneering neutral-atom platforms across computing, sensing, and networking.Before stepping in as CEO, Matthew spent nearly two decades as a deep-tech investor with Maverick Capital and was Infleqtion’s first institutional investor in 2018. Now, he’s guiding the company through its next major inflection point — scaling quantum technologies, going public, and shaping the global race toward quantum advantage.Anders and Matthew’s conversation bridges business, science, and philosophy — exploring how quantum computing is transforming markets, national security, and our understanding of reality itself.Together, they explore:From Investor to Operator – Why Matthew left venture capital to lead Infleqtion and how neutral-atom technology became a flexible, multi-market platformQuantum Advantage and Logical Qubits – How the shift from if to when is redefining valuations, timelines, and investor psychology in quantum computingBeyond Computing – Real commercial use cases in quantum sensing, precision timing, and Rydberg antennas that could transform defense, logistics, and communicationsThe Quantum Race – Why quantum technology has become a matter of national strategy and how GPS-denied environments reveal the urgency for quantum timing and navigationInnovation and Capital – Balancing bottom-up entrepreneurship with government support in an age of trillion-dollar tech monopoliesFaith, Logos, and Consciousness – A reflective ending that bridges Stoicism, spirituality, and quantum theory — asking what it really means to be human in a quantum worldThis is a conversation about the infleqtion point between capital, consciousness, and technology — where exponential innovation meets existential reflection.Whether you’re a founder, investor, or philosopher of progress, this episode will expand your thinking on how quantum technologies are reshaping not just economies, but the future of human agency itself.🎧 Listen to The Quantum Economy Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube — brought to you by The Quantum Insider.Links & ResourcesAbout Matthew Kinsellahttps://linkedin.com/in/matthew-kinsella https://infleqtion.com/ About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: podcast@thequantumeconomy.comListen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindsetIf you enjoyed this episode, please:Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiastSubscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy