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The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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In 2015, Laura Coates traded courtroom drama for newsroom deadlines, leaving her job as a Justice Department prosecutor to dive into a journalism career. She was a new mom with no media experience or contacts, but knew she’d regret it if she never tried. Fast forward to today. Laura is CNN’s Chief Legal Analyst, a Sirius XM host, and a trusted voice on today’s most pressing legal stories. Despite her success, it didn’t come without sacrifice. Listen as Laura gets real about the hard conversations she had with her husband – and herself – about prioritizing her professional ambitions over financial security.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Laura shares:
How she charmed her husband when they first met, despite having a waxed off eyebrow
Why she found it difficult to financially depend on her husband while figuring out her career
How she got her foot in the door in media with no connections, and why getting the second foot in is more important
Why she never shuts down her kids’ curiosity around current events
How she’s dealt with big personalities in the courtroom, and on television
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1Laura Modi’s organic baby formula company, Bobbie, thrived during a formula shortage that saw nearly 50% of the nation’s formula supply vanish. As desperate moms searched for alternatives, many turned to Bobbie, leading to massive growth—until the demand threatened the supply. Laura faced a critical decision: continue accepting new customers or pause growth so OG Bobbie babies were taken care of. Laura tells the story of how her bold choice paid off and how Bobbie has future-proofed itself through smart business decisions.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Laura shares:
How growing up in rural Western Ireland taught her hospitality
Why it took having a second child to push her to start Bobbie
How she navigated Bobbie through a product recall just two weeks after it launched
Bobbie’s recent 15% price cut, and how the company was able to do it
Why implementing paid family leave federally would help alleviate moms’ mental health issues
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When Han Wen got a job at L’Oréal as an entry-level marketing associate, she didn’t even know what marketing was. The interviewers didn’t care. They spent the bulk of the interview talking about her bold outfit, which she got off the sales rack at J.Crew just an hour before. Fast forward to 2022, and Han became the CMO of L’Oréal USA at just 39-years-old. Talk about a full circle moment. Han shares how she made impressions throughout her corporate career, and how she’s gotten really good at listening – even when it might be hard to hear.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Han shares:
Why her work stint in France was nothing like “Emily in Paris”
The best lesson she learned about being a people manager
What she focused on instead of chasing after titles during her career
How having kids destroyed any illusion of control, and how it carries into her work
Why L’Oréal encourages some rule-bending to make great products
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Neha Ruch chose to take an indefinite pause from work after having her second child. She immediately faced raised eyebrows and unsolicited advice. She didn’t bat an eye at her choice. But the reactions got her thinking: why are we riding on outdated stereotypes about moms choosing to exit the workforce to take care of their family for a chapter of their lives? Enter: Mother Untitled, the leading platform dedicated to ambitious women choosing to lean into family life – without shame. Today, Neha shares tips from her new book The Power Pause to help listeners pull it off like pro.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Neha shares:
The importance of her gap year in India and what it did for her self-trust
Why she couldn’t find the peace and purpose at work that she got from motherhood
How stay-at-home-motherhood has been wrongfully labeled as a “luxury”
The percentage of women who stop working because of high childcare costs
Financial levers couples can pull to make room in the budget for a future pause
Neha’s Instagram: @motheruntitled
Neha’s book: The Power Pause: How to Plan a Career Break After Kids – and Come Back Stronger Than Ever
Carly and Danielle’s Instagram: @carlyanddanielle
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Alice Milligan left home at 19 to escape a dysfunctional family life. Her peers went to college right out of high school. Meanwhile, Alice spent ten years getting her college degree while working full-time to support herself. She had no choice but to be resilient, independent, and patient. Decades later, and faced with choosing between a dream job or staying near her husband awaiting a liver transplant, Alice shares how the patience she cultivated as a young woman guided her choice.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Alice shares:
Her deep cut bagel order (cinnamon raisin fans, rejoice)
The strong women in her life who helped her navigate leaving home
Why working in HR in her early career served her well throughout her career
How she rationalized her choice of remaining close to her family or taking on her dream job
How Morgan Stanley prioritizes women feeling financially empowered – and how the company’s new marketing initiatives reflect that
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She’s an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment. Connie Chung is the trailblazing veteran broadcaster who worked her way up from being a copy-girl at a local news station to anchoring one of the most popular nightly newscasts, CBS Evening News. To get there, she had to make it through the “boys club” of the 70s newsroom. Think: Mad Men, but news. She says it could’ve been worse. But she made it work by being just as confident as they were.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Connie shares:
The impact of growing up around four strong-willed sisters
How she defied the racist and sexist stereotypes men had of her
Her biggest regret of her career and how she reconciles it now
Why getting fired from CBS Evening News proved to be serendipitous
A cameo from her husband, Maury Povich. Yes, that Maury
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Welcome back to a new season of 9 to 5ish. We’re kicking things off with Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis, two best friends and co-hosts of the show “Honest Renovations” on The Roku Channel. There are plenty of home renovation shows out there. But theirs highlights the importance of mom having their own space to recharge. As moms of three kids each, they learned that the hard way.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Jessica and Lizzy share:
Their friendship origin story and why Lizzy lied to Jessica about her age for years
How they took the jump from being friends to becoming co-hosts of a show
Why surface-level friendships don’t last in business partnerships
The burnout of filling others’ cups before their own, and how they fixed it
Tips on dealing with the highs and lows of the holiday season
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Early in her career, Sharon Price-John literally put pen to paper and wrote what she dubbed her “price values.” AKA: the qualities that guided her in work and life. She reasoned that if she had time to write a grocery list, she could take a second to define what was important to her. Although her price values have inevitably evolved as she got older, Sharon shares that defining her values made the path to achieving her goals a lot clearer.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Sharon shares:
The brownie points she scored from her kids being a toy company exec
Why she follows the age-old advice “love what you do”
What influenced the changes to her “price values” list
How she managed to bring Build-A-Bear its three most profitable years ever after COVID
The difficulties of succeeding a founder-led business, and how she overcame them
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Through her twenties and thirties, comedian Jenny Slate couldn’t find peace. By all accounts, she was succeeding. She earned a spot on Saturday Night Live, and became recognizable through her on-screen appearances next to actors like Amy Poehler and Nick Kroll. But she still felt stuck in a cycle of self-criticism and a pressure to always be on. Then she became a mom and it all clicked. Listen as Jenny shares why becoming a mom made her feel less desperate to get jobs, please others, and “perform her tricks”.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Jenny shares:
Why living in Massachusetts instead of Los Angeles is helpful for her creative work
What traits her parents were most concerned about in her upbringing
How leaving Saturday Night Live led her to a major learning about success
Why perfection isn’t worth aiming at, and how she unlearned doing that
How the unconditional love she feels for her kid helped heal her own inner child
A skimm of her new memoir, “Life Form”
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Erin Andrews has become one of the most recognizable sideline reporters in the sports industry. She started out at ESPN in her early twenties, and eventually moved to Fox NFL where she continues to give fans updates on their favorite players and coaches. While Erin’s worked in the biz for nearly two decades, she says she knows there’s a “shelf life” to her job. But the only way she’ll stop is if they drag her off the sidelines – and Erin says, it ain’t gonna be pretty.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Erin shares:
The news junkie side of her, and how it’s ruined family vacations
How she’s proactively addressing the “shelf life” of her on-camera career
The trauma she endured after being stalked, and how it informs her boundaries today
How she’s built genuine relationships with her colleagues and the people she covers
Why work became such a safe haven for her after going through her cervical cancer diagnosis and IVF treatments
PS: Check out Erin Andrews podcast, Calm Down.
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Before she decided to run for mayor, Kate Gallego was newly divorced with a young child. Her support system drastically changed after her mom was diagnosed with cancer. Her only income was through her job on the city council, and she questioned whether Phoenix could stomach a young, unmarried woman as mayor. She won the race and has led the city for five years now. As mayor, Mayor Gallego implemented one of the most generous paid family leave policies for government employees and established an office to respond to Phoenix’s rising heat. Another part of her legacy so far? Redefining what’s possible for young working moms who don’t have perfect personal lives.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Mayor Gallego shares:
How climate defined her childhood and early professional career
Why people should run for office even if their personal life isn’t perfect
The women in government who guided her through her own public service career
How she implemented a 12-week paid family leave policy for public employees, plus a surprising fact on who uses it the most
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Eventbrite CEO Julia Hartz said “I do” to Kevin Hartz twice: once when they got married, and again when she decided to become a co-founder with him. Julia says she doesn’t even remember the latter moment. All she knows is she trusted Kevin’s entrepreneurial instincts and it paid off. But when Kevin needed to step down as CEO and have Julia step in, she describes the transition as going from “Candyland” to “Tron”.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Julia shares:
What her internships on “Friends” and “Jackass” taught her
The unofficial exit strategy she and Kevin agreed on in case they didn’t work out romantically
Why it was bittersweet stepping up as CEO while Kevin navigated health struggles health struggled
How Eventbrite’s IPO was the most diverse in NYSE history
Why she takes it personally when female executive leadership exit the business after going public
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On the literal first day Rachel Zoe decided to be a freelance stylist, Tommy Hilfiger called her up to style a 2-week campaign with the biggest celebs and supermodels. She had 0 faith in herself, but he trusted she could do it. Rachel spent her career mainly behind the camera until her clients – who were the it-girls of our time – started pulling her in front of the paps with them. That turned into a Bravo TV show about her life, “The Rachel Zoe Project” and several fashion-focused brands centered around her styling. The best part? She never planned any of it.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Rachel shares:
The subconscious impact of growing up near New York City
Her biggest fashion pet peeve in the workplace
How she managed her limelight career as an introvert
Why she decided to allow Bravo to film her life, despite swearing it off initially
Whether or not she’d be able to launch her styling career in the age of social media
How not having a plan for her whole career ended up working out
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Claudette Zepeda grew up as a border kid between San Diego and Tijuana. On top of that, she spent summers in Guadalajara, watching her aunt run a bustling restaurant. She didn’t know it then, but those summers created the foundations for Mexican cuisine and hospitality in her mind. Then, she became a mom at 18-years-old. Claudette was a kid raising her own kid. She needed to pay the bills, sure. But what Claudette wanted more was to figure out how to build intergenerational wealth – and how to inspire young single moms to believe they could do it too.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Claudette shares:
Why she never allowed herself to dream beyond getting off food stamps and paying her bills on time
How she stumbled into being a celebrity chef thanks to “right place, right time”
Why it’s detrimental to not talk about failures publicly
A recent on-air mess up she can’t stop thinking about, and what it taught her
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Mary Barra grew up in the suburbs of Detroit, aka: the heart of the auto industry. Her father worked at General Motors for 40 years, and Mary became a second generation GM’er. She worked her way up the company, studying at the General Motors Institute (yes, it was a thing) to eventually becoming the CEO in 2014. Mary claimed GOAT status in the auto industry for steering the company through several crises – and for being a mentor to other women in the biz.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Mary shares:
Who would make the cut on her cross-country road trip roster
Why she’s never blinked twice at the rarity of being a woman in the auto industry
The most difficult crisis she had to navigate a CEO
Advice to her daughter and other women on when it’s time to leave a job
Why she views herself as a caretaker to General Motors and what that responsibility means
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Jamie Kern Lima sold her company, IT Cosmetics, for $1.2 billion to L’Oréal. The sale made Jamie the first female CEO of a L’Oréal brand and safe to say, she made a pretty penny. She'd made it. At least that’s what everyone thought. In reality, Jamie says she couldn't find the self-worth to make her feel like she deserved any of it.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Jamie shares:
Why befriending Oprah deepened her understanding of being “enough”
How she distinguishes between self-confidence and self-worth
Her struggles with work addiction and how it affected her relationship with her family
The story of learning to quiet self-doubt and learning to trust herself with her new book, Worthy: How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life
PS: 9 to 5ish is going on summer vacation. We'll be back in your feed in September.
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Today, we’ve got a bonus episode of “9 to 5ish” for you with a guest whose name has been in the news a lot lately. Our guest is Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, the co-chair of Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign, and author of the New York Times bestseller “True Gretch: What I’ve Learned About Life, Leadership, and Everything in Between.” As a popular governor of a swing state, Governor Whitmer’s name has been floated in convos about who might be on the Democratic ticket since Biden ended his re-election campaign.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Governor Whitmer shares:
Whether you’ll see a Harris-Whitmer ticket in 2024
What politicians can do to stop political violence
How democrats should think about reaching conservative and independent voters
What most people are surprised to learn about her after reading her book
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When Seema Bansal Chadha was in her early twenties, she was in a very new, long distance relationship with a guy named Sunny. In classic LDR-status, he sent her flowers for Valentine's Day. It was supposed to be a romantic gesture, but the flowers arrived wilted. NBD though. The flop would lead Seema to move to New York to be with Sunny…and to co-found Venus et Fleur with him too.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Seema shares:
Why her father’s lighting and plumbing store informed her own entrepreneurship
How she rationalized starting a biz with her boyfriend of less than a year
The moment Venus et Fleur blew up (shout out to the Kardashians)
How the hustle of the early days compares to the hustle now
Why protecting your existing customers sometimes outweighs trying to attract new ones
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In 2018, Mandana Dayani watched as the family-separation policy played out at the southern border. It was deeply unsettling. Her family fled as refugees from Iran to the US as an authoritarian regime took over. She asked herself: how could a country that saved my life do this? Mandana quickly learned that civic engagement was the only way things could meaningfully change. Enter: I am a voter., Mandana's org that's on a mission to rebrand voter identity to get young people to the polls.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Mandana shares:
The culture shock of being a refugee in the US
How she went from being a lawyer to a brand strategist to the co-founder of a political org
The advice she got from Mom's Demand Action founder, Shannon Watts (spoiler alert: women get sh*t done)
How trust in existing brands and celebrities jumpstarted I am a voter.
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Most nepo babies deny the privileges afforded to them by their parents. Allison Statter isn’t one of them. She’s never been shy about having entertainment industry titans for parents, or about being Kim Kardashian’s lifelong BFF. But after working at her dad’s management company for 17 years, people started whispering about her legitimacy. To prove she could make it on her own, Allison kissed job security goodbye and launched her own entertainment marketing agency, Blended Strategy Group. Talk about a full 180.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Allison shares:
A fact about Kim K that most people don’t know
How her parent’s working relationship stayed strong despite separating multiple times
How a temporary 2-week stint at her dad’s company turned in 17-year long career
Why the stakes are so much higher working in a family business
How she’s learned more launching a company than she has her entire career
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Amazing interview! Congratulations for bringing Dr. Jansen on your show. A real feather in your caps.
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I am a huge fan of the Skimm, but I would love to hear more from accomplished women in science and engineering. STEM is not just for men, and highlighting the amazing women who make strides in these industries will help others see that STEM careers are more attainable than they seem.
I love this podcast but the volume is really low so I cannot listen to it when I am commuting
Love this podcast channel! I’m definitely a Skimm fan. These bites of knowledge are a great compliment to the email newsletter!
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