In this special replay episode, Katharine and Seth depart from their typical podcast topics — and enjoy the fun and magic of the holidays. Katharine shares her top five Christmas movies and Seth creates themed cocktails for each! In the heaviness of sorting through flood insurance, buying new things, moving (again), and driving 10 hours to celebrate Christmas, Katharine and Seth decided it was more important this week to just do something super silly and ridiculous. We hope you put this podcast on in the background while you do some holiday baking or while wrapping your gifts! Enjoy! Kat’s Top 5 Christmas Movies & Seth’s Cocktail Pairings: 5. Last Christmas (2019) - This quirky and unexpected Christmas romcom centers around Kate, a wannabe West End performer and full time Christmas store worker, who falls for a mysterious man who ends up playing a pivotal role in her life - but not in a way you expect Set in London with all of the whimsy and beauty of this city at Christmas and a phenomenal cast. Also music by George Michael. What’s not to love? COCKTAIL SUGGESTION: Winter Pimms Ingredients: 50ml Pimm's No. 3 (brandy-based) 200ml warm apple juice Slices of orange and apple Cinnamon stick (for garnish) How to Make: Mix all the ingredients in a saucepan and warm gently over medium heat. Strain and serve. MOCKTAIL OPTION: Warm apple cider with candied orange, a cinnamon stick, and apple, cloves if you’re fancy. 4. Elf (2003) - This hilarious movie starring Will Ferrell and James Caan is a modern Christmas classic which tells the story of an orphan adopted by Santa who grows up to be Buddy the Elf, a human living in an Elf world. When Buddy returns to NYC to meet his biological dad, hijinks ensue and of course there’s a love story too. COCKTAIL SUGGESTION: Candy Cane Martini Ingredients: 1 oz vanilla vodka 1 oz peppermint schnapps 1 oz white crème de cacao 1 oz half-and-half or cream Crushed candy canes (crushed, rim of glass) Mini candy cane (for garnish) How to Make: Prepare the Glass: Rim a martini glass with crushed candy canes by wetting the rim with a little cream and then dipping it into the crushed candy canes. Mix the Ingredients: In a cocktail shaker, combine the vanilla vodka, peppermint schnapps, white crème de cacao, and half-and-half. Fill with ice and shake well until chilled. Strain and Serve: Strain the mixture into the prepared martini glass. Garnish: Add a mini candy cane to the glass for decoration. MOCKTAIL OPTION: Peppermint Hot Chocolate or Peppermint Chocolate Milk 3. Home Alone (1990) - I’m not writing a description for Home Alone. if you have not seen it, you do not really like Christmas - ya filthy animal! COCKTAIL SUGGESTION: Gingerbread Martini Ingredients: 1 oz vodka 1 oz Irish cream liqueur 1 oz gingerbread syrup (store-bought or homemade) 1 oz half-and-half or cream Graham cracker crumbs (for rimming the glass) Ground cinnamon (for garnish) Optional: Whipped cream for topping (if you’re gross) How to Make: Prepare the Glass: Rim a martini glass with gingerbread syrup and then dip it into graham cracker crumbs to coat the rim. Mix the Ingredients: In a cocktail shaker, combine vodka, Irish cream liqueur, gingerbread syrup, and half-and-half. Fill the shaker with ice and shake well until chilled. Strain and Serve: Strain the mixture into the prepared martini glass. Garnish: Sprinkle a little ground cinnamon on top and add whipped cream if desired. MOCKTAIL OPTION: Decaf Gingerbread Latte or Warm Gingerbread Milk 2. Miracle on 34th Street (1947) - This Christmas classic takes place during the magical weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas in NYC. A single-mother and staunch Santa-denier accidentally hires the real Santa Claus to work at Macy’s, subjecting her daughter to the true magic and delight of Christmas. While Kris Kringle spends his time trying to persuade the little girl that he is real, he subsequently convinces her mother, and the whole world too. Also it’s a love story. COCKTAIL SUGGESTION: Christmaspolitan / Classy Christmas Ingredients: 2 oz vodka ¼ oz elderflower liqueur ¼ oz dry vermouth 1 oz spiced cranberry sauce ½ oz lime juice Absinthe spritz (for garnish) Fresh rosemary sprig (for garnish) How to Make: Prepare the Glass: Lightly spritz a chilled coupe glass with absinthe and set aside. Mix the Ingredients: In a cocktail shaker, combine vodka, elderflower liqueur, dry vermouth, spiced cranberry sauce, and lime juice. Fill the shaker with ice and shake well until chilled. Strain and Serve: Fine strain the mixture into the prepared coupe glass. Garnish: Add a fresh rosemary sprig for an aromatic touch. MOCKTAIL OPTION: Elderflower soda with a splash of cranberry juice. Add a fun garnish! 1. It’s A Wonderful Life (1946) - This beloved Christmas movie is loosely based on Dickens’ A Christmas Carol and tells the story of George Bailey, a man who has sacrificed his dreams in order to help others and whose thoughts of suicide on Christmas Eve bring about his guardian angel, Clarence. Clarence shows George all the lives he touched and what the world would be like if he had not existed. Sounds dark, but honestly so good. COCKTAIL SUGGESTION: Christmas Champagne Cocktail Ingredients: 4 oz Champagne (dry or brut) 1 sugar cube 2 dashes Angostura bitters Lemon twist (for garnish) How to Make: 1. Prepare the Glass: Place a sugar cube at the bottom of a champagne flute. 2. Add Bitters: Douse the sugar cube with 2 dashes of Angostura bitters. 3. Pour Champagne: Slowly pour in the Champagne, allowing it to mix gently with the sugar and bitters. 4. Garnish: Add a twist of lemon peel for an aromatic touch. MOCKTAIL OPTION: Sparkling Apple Cider with a sugar cube, Angostura bitters (if desired), and a lemon twist garnish. If you enjoyed this episode and would like other episodes like this, let us know. And please, if you make any of these cocktails/mocktails while watching their corresponding movie, please send us a pic! Email us at hello@arainbowinthestorm.com! A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
It’s our first solocast of Season 2 and Katharine sits down to talk about gratitude and loss. She shares her thoughts on how these two concepts are inextricably linked and gives examples from her own life. She also talks about the upcoming holiday craziness and how sometimes (against our better judgment) we end up doing things we said we’d “NEVER” do — and how that’s not always a bad thing. She also reads a poem by one of her favorite poets, Mary Oliver. This is a short and sweet episode and we hope you enjoy this one as a kickoff to your holiday season. If you enjoyed this episode, can we ask you a favor and please subscribe, share, and review it. Thank you so much for listening! A few useful links: “In Blackwater Woods” by Mary Oliver “Calling all Angels” by Jane Siberry Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth don't have a new episode out today, but they pop on the pod to say "Happy Thanksgiving" AND "Happy 1 Year Anniversary to A Rainbow in the Storm!" On this day of thanks, they are SO GRATEFUL for their listeners, the meaning this show has brought them, and to the people they've met along the way. Here's to many more episodes! Now go enjoy some turkey!
Katharine and Seth are thrilled to have intuitive astrologer Virginia Rosenberg on the podcast today. Virginia shares her real, embodied experience of astrology and how we can all use it to navigate the many challenges that life presents. Virginia stumbled upon astrology very early in her life after a childhood of wisdom seeking through many different modalities. And a healing crisis led her to leaning into the ways astrology can help us sail the rough waters. She also does a deep dive into the astrology of 2026 and what she feels is heading our way. Virginia is generously sharing a discount code for her 2026 Cosmic calendar and Year Ahead Bundle - so check those out below! If you enjoyed this episode, can we ask you a favor and please subscribe, share, and review it. Thank you so much for listening! Cosmic Calendar and Year Ahead Bundle: Use the Code PODCAST for $20 off! Free preview of the Cosmic Calendar All of Virginia’s Offerings for 2026 For those interested in a 1:1 reading with an intuitive astrologer Virginia’s Bio: Virginia Rosenberg is an intuitive astrologer based in Western North Carolina. Her mystical-yet-rooted writings have made her a household name. She wields astrology as a healing art, a navigation system, and a spiritual form of time travel. Virginia is the founder Sky Scholar, an immersive astrology school where students weave together through their shared love of wisdom-keeping and way-finding. Her annual Cosmic Calendar and Forecast reach an international audience devoted to living in harmony with the greater whole. More at VirginiaRosenberg.com. A few more useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth sit down today with Abundance Coach, former conscious CPA, and singer songwriter Hugo Hanson. Hugo is a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. After a trying childhood and a near death car accident, Hugo set out on a path of self-discovery which led him to meditation, self-inquiry, and eventually to creating a life he absolutely loves. He now coaches people on how to create more abundance in their life, whether it be financial, relationships, or health. Hugo is a true pleasure to speak with and the living embodiment of joy and abundance! We believe you will love hearing from him as well. And be sure to check out more of his music - we used one of his songs in the opening of this episode - on Spotify! If you enjoyed this episode, can we ask you a favor and please subscribe, share, and review it. Thank you so much for listening! Hugo’s Website: Hugo Coaching Hugo’s Course: Be In Abundance Hugo’s Music: Spotify Hugo’s Bio: Hugo Coaching is the manifestation of Hugo Hanson’s dream to uplift others and be a guidepost on the journey to self-awareness and to help others attract the abundance they are worthy of. Hugo was raised outside Philadelphia in the 50s and 60s and since age 17, when he had a near death car accident he has been continually seeking, finding and journeying through life. While practicing as a conscious CPA for over 40 years, Hugo found his current career of coaching abundance. Everyone is searching and asking for abundance in health, finances or relationships. The asking is done through the story we tell by our thoughts, beliefs and words. When we awaken and start listening to our own story, we become empowered and though Hugo coaching, become the deliberate creator of our life experience and can manifest the life we want. He is also a singer songwriter and tell his major life stories through his songs. Hugo is a happy family man with a wonderful wife, 6 offspring and 12 grandchildren. His current coaching influences come from the teachings of Abraham (www.abraham-hicks.com) and Dr. Joe Dispenza (www.drjoedispenza.com). A few more useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth are thrilled to welcome Adam Schwartz aka The Giving Realtor to the podcast today! Adam was rocked to the core after being faced with what he calls his “trifecta of tragedy.” Following these events, he used the losses as an opportunity to reassess the next chapter of his life and create more meaning, specifically in his career. This is how The Giving Realtor was born! Adam is now pursing his dream of real estate while making a difference. The Giving Realtor donates 10% of his net profits to the charity of that client’s choice. How cool is that?! Adam also shares his tips and tools for navigating challenging times and gives us a living example of resilience. This is an inspiring and fun episode and we think you’re going to love it! If you enjoyed this episode, can we ask you a favor and please subscribe, share, and review it. Thank you so much for listening! Adam’s website: The Giving Realtor The Giving Realtor’s Instagram, Facebook. and TikTok Adam’s Bio: Adam was born in NY and lived in Oklahoma from the ages of 5 to 13. He moved to Florida in 1985 and has been here ever since. He went to the University of Florida and was a Financial Advisor from the time he graduated until 2020. His inspiration for changing professions was his personal trifecta of tragedy. And he now gets to make an impact every day with his work. The Giving Realtor is a business model that he built in order to help people with their real estate needs, and to change lives every day. He donates 10% of his earning on each transaction to the nonprofit of my clients’ choice, and he donates in their name so that they get recognition and acknowledgement from the organizations that they choose. He has 2 boys, ages 9 and 19, and not only does he adore them, but he knows that the way he lives his life makes them very proud and hopefully they aspire to change the world each and every day as well. A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Hurrah a holiday special! Katharine and Seth are joined today by their friend Reneé Moss, a fellow mama bear and Waldorf-trained educator to discuss things that go bump in the night. Reneé shares a brief history of Halloween from the Celtic ritual of Samhain to today’s less sacred candy-scare-fest. All three share their childhood memories of Halloween and how the 80’s and 90’s just felt simpler (is it just us?!). They also discuss their concerns with where the holiday has gone over the past two decades and the ways in which the holiday feels less kid-friendly. They talk about challenging parenting moments from endless candy to trying to protect their children from the scary, the sexy, and the deranged. We hope you enjoyed this episode and please let us know your thoughts on Halloween! If you liked this episode, can we ask you a favor and please subscribe, share, and review it. Thank you so much for listening! A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth sit down this week with David Dockswell, a seasoned physical therapist based in South Florida. Katharine serendipitously met David and his wife Randie on a hike near Black Mountain and they shared a wonderful conversation that led to this podcast. David shares his wisdom as a multi-decade physical therapist who has worked with people from all walks of life. He has learned so much about what makes people tick, what motivates them, and how to help not only his patients, but their families. After listening to this, you may just have a newfound gratitude for the little things you might have taken for granted in your physical life - like walking! He has so much to share and is such a wonderful person to talk to - we hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it! And if you did, please consider subscribing or leaving us a written review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Thanks so much and see you all next Thursday! David Dockswell’s Bio: David Dockswell is 53 years old and has been married for 25 years. His wife Randie is a dental hygienist along with being an avid hiker. They have 3 sons ages 23, 20, and 17. Their youngest, Ethan, is a senior in high school and still lives with them. Their oldest, Matthew, graduated college and is out living and working on his own. Their middle son Zach is in the coast guard and lives near Cape Canaveral where he works. David has been a physical therapist since 2000, and has worked in home health PT since 2002. He bought into his business in 2003 and they have grown it from about 100 patients when he started to close to almost 500 patients now on service at all times. David has a bachelors degrees in psychology from the university of Michigan, and a Masters degree in physical therapy from Nova Southeastern University. He work with almost every diagnosis imaginable for adults, but most of his patients have Medicare and are over the age of 65. The oldest patient he has ever worked with so far was 107. A few useful links: Precision Rehab - David’s Company Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
This week Seth and Katharine talk about the ways in which we as parents unconsciously gaslight our kids and undermine their emotional experiences. They talk about tools and techniques for feeling and healing their own adult wounds in order to show up and parent more whole-heartedly and respectfully. But don’t worry - they start off way lighter and first talk about the most important concerns of the 1980’s which were apparently the ozone layer, protecting text books by covering them with paper bags, and Aspartame. They also go on for way too long about which file folders should be which colors for various school subjects. Tangents abound today! They go on to share intimately about some recent experiences with their eight-year old son Bradshaw and navigating his emotions without shaming his personal experience. They also talk about the importance of giving children the opportunity to navigate through difficulties in order to build their own sense of resiliency and strength. Let us know what you think about this episode and if you’d like more like this one! And as always, we hope you truly enjoyed this episode and please if you do, consider subscribing or leaving us a written review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Thanks so much and see you all next Thursday! A few useful links: Peter Crone’s Work Lisa Frank Trapper Keepers (IYKYK) Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
This week Seth and Katharine welcome the iconic John Sullivan - CPA, tax attorney, town planner and developer, real estate lover, and the bravest entrepreneur we know. John shares with us the first 100-120 of Winthrop, the walkable town he and his wife have been creating and building for over 25 years. With every odd seemingly against them, John tells the story of how they overcame each and every obstacle that was thrown their way and by the grace of God were able to navigate this seemingly unsolvable maze. From having money to having no money, heart-attacks, sudden deaths, and literally no path to follow, John shares his story and the insights he’s learned about life and business. We hope you truly enjoy this episode and please if you do, consider subscribing or leaving us a written review on Apple Podcasts. Thanks so much and see you all next Thursday! John Sullivan’s very unofficial bio: Originally from Brockton, Massachusetts, and the youngest of seven, John was dragged to St. Petersburg, Florida when his parents retired and couldn't wait for him to finish his high school years. Luckily he ended up in the same high school as Kay Beckett, who would become Kay Sullivan - a woman who for various and unknown reasons continues to be married to him 45 years and counting. John started his first business at 15 by renting sound equipment that he didn't own out to local musicians in an enterprise that turned out to be quite successful. His second business as a concert promoter did not turn out so well, but that's a story for another day. John is a CPA and tax lawyer by trade but when he and his wife moved to the Greater Brandon area in Florida they saw the problems of suburban sprawl. In an attempt to help, he and his wife accidentally but maybe on purpose stumbled into town planning and building and thus the Traditional Neighborhood Development known as Winthrop was born. He has been working on this nightmare...I mean dream since 2000. He and his wife now live there as well. They have three children, one of whom insists that he be on her super cool podcast. A few useful links: Winthrop’s Website Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Welcome to this bonus episode of A Rainbow in the Storm. We will continue our regularly scheduled program this Thursday with a new interview coming your way; however we wanted to take a moment to acknowledge the one year anniversary since hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolina, changing the lives of tens of thousands of people. We believe it’s important to pause and acknowledge our own feelings and processing of the past year and to reflect on our bigger community and the changes that have happened here. We also wanted to have Bradshaw on the podcast to remind us that kids are resilient and are so much more focused in the present — and have a lot to teach us. As it is also our wedding anniversary of course we have a lot to celebrate and be grateful for, but we didn’t want to let this important milestone pass without giving respect to those who lost their lives and to honor those who dedicated so much time and effort to help save many and helped us move through the devastation that ensued during and after hurricane Helene. Thank you to all who listen and please remember that we are all so lucky to be alive and to have each other. We’ll see you next Thursday! Also be sure to check out Hayley Everett’s music on her Instagram page. Her beautiful song, “What Remains is Love” is featured in the opening of this episode. A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings Hayley’s Music
Katharine and Seth are back for Season 2 of A Rainbow in the Storm and are thrilled to be sharing their epic meet-cute which took place in August 2012. After a series of heartbreaks for both Seth and Katharine, they found each other in the most unexpected and delightful way and well let’s just say they’ve been together ever since. If you are single, looking for love, and want proof that true love is out there, we hope this story is the perfect reminder. And we hope regardless of your relationship status, you find joy, fun, and lightheartedness in Seth and Katharine’s rom-com style accidental 8-day blind date in paradise. Cheers to Love! And if you’re interested in Katharine’s list of 11 things she needs in a romantic partnership (as mentioned in this episode), listen all the way until the end…like past the closing credits! If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thank you as always for listening and for your support! A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth are joined this week by their friend and local Integrative Manual Therapy practitioner, Carol Smith. Carol’s expertise goes far beyond her hands-on healing modalities and it is really her deep wisdom and profound love that shine through this episode. What is trauma and do we have to live with it our whole lives? Do we create our own suffering or is the name of the human game being faced with adversity no matter your mind set? And are we strong enough to overcome whatever we face? Carol shares her experience of working with thousands of clients over decades and the true nature of human resiliency. It is an inspiring and touching conversation that brought Katharine and Seth to tears. We hope you not only hear, but feel the deep resonance of Carol’s words and it helps you to remember just how powerful you are. About Carol Smith: Carol’s life and healing practice are deeply grounded in the understanding that Love is the most powerful medicine we can use to transform, heal and integrate every level of our human experience—physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. As we open ourselves to knowing we are Love, we can release the need to search, try, or figure out how to love ourselves. We discover we are love, a unique expression of our own Divine and we move directly into the flow of healing; we become attuned to the flow of life. Carol’s work is a hands on healing practice of deep listening to each person’s being and being led by their internal wisdom. She is passionate about empowering her clients to befriend their bodies as Divine gateways for welcoming more health, wholeness and connection as Love frees us all. If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thank you as always for listening and for your support! A few useful links: Carol Smith’s website: YourInnerSantuary.com Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth return after a brief, impromptu hiatus to talk about the messy middle after any tragic event. While so much is better after the immediate effects of Hurricane Helene, there are still many questions, murky paths, and unknowns. Katharine and Seth discuss what’s next for their former home and how they’re surrendering yet again in the process. They also talk about their recent garage sale and the unexpected healing that came from that - and how the community in Western North Carolina is doing. Thank you as always for listening and for your support! If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thanks so much! A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth are back after a rejuvenating spring break and they’re thrilled to have Deborah Sabalusky on the podcast this week! Deborah faced a dark night of the soul when her relationship of almost 15 years fell apart in front of her eyes. The dream home, family, and life she had imagined was stripped from her and it left her contemplating who she really was, what she truly wanted, where to go from here, and how to raise a young daughter in the midst of it all. To add insult to injury her beloved cat of 18 years died, and then she was injured in a car accident. All of this led to Deborah taking her life back and charting a new course for herself. We hope you enjoy hearing Deborah’s story and are inspired by her journey from devastation to reclamation. A little bit about Deborah: Deborah Sabalusky shares about the gift of self-discovery she's experienced while simultaneously healing through the grief of losing a beloved pet, divorce while raising a young child, and processing the pains and dreams of childhood through motherhood. Mind/body practices like meditation, breath work and yoga helped her reconnect with her authentic child-like self, to find true love within herself, with life, and in relationship with a partner she met by following her calling. Deborah launched SOLful Living to offer guided meditations after receiving a calling to lead meditations. Deborah hopes that by sharing her story and unique approach to meditation with continuous grounding cues, other women will find comfort in reconnecting with their body and soul, discover safety and security within, and lead a vibrant, fulfilling life. If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thanks so much! A few more useful links: Deborah’s website: Coming soon! Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth sit down to interview their very own son, Bradshaw and ask him what it was like to lose his home and many of his belongings during Hurricane Helene. They ask him questions that they had never asked him in the six months following the storm and learn how children see things so differently than we adults. We hope you find it uplifting and hopeful and it makes you feel good about our future generation of humans. If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thanks so much! A few more useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine sits down solo and shares some thoughts that have been on her heart and mind over the last few weeks. She talks about the emotional journey of walking through grief and how memories can unexpectedly take you back and how challenging emotions can feel fresh again. Sparked by a great conversation with a friend, Katharine contemplates what happens when she feels sorry for someone and how it feels to be on the receiving end of it. She also talks about the unexpected gifts of walking through a tragedy with children. Katharine shares a book that’s been resonating with her and may be helpful to others. She closes out this episode with a poem and as always gratitude for our listeners. If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thanks so much! Writings referenced in today’s episode: The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins A Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl Katharine’s poem, “There’s Nothing to Do” A few more useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Seth sits down for his first solo-cast this week! It's six months to the day since Hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolina and Seth shares where they’re at with their home reconstruction, the emotional journey, and how he feels about the storm today. It’s a brief episode but we didn’t want to let this milestone go by without checking in. As always, thank you all for listening and we hope you enjoy this episode! If you liked this episode or any others, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe, or share this podcast with a friend. Thanks so much! A few useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings
Katharine and Seth are thrilled to share the powerful interview they had with Kay Sullivan, Katharine’s mom. Kay went through her own dark night of the soul beginning in 2006 when she was diagnosed with Lupus, a chronic “incurable” autoimmune disease. Kay’s mindset upon her diagnosis and what she chose to do with this information may surprise you. It certainly inspired us! Kay’s unrelenting belief that the body can heal itself from anything as long as it’s given the proper conditions may change the way you view your own body and health. We hope you find inspiration, joy, and gratitude for your body in this week’s episode. And thank you as always for listening, and if you enjoyed this episode or any past episodes, please share it with a friend and leave us a positive review on Apple Podcast. We appreciate the support so much! More about Kay Sullivan: Kay is a native Floridian. She’s been married to her husband, John, for nearly 45 years. They have 3 children (Katharine, Sarah, and Sergey) and one grandson, Bradshaw. In her early years Kay worked as a medical social worker in St. Petersburg. She spent some years as a stay at home mom and later, in an effort to combat suburban sprawl in their area, she and John began building a pedestrian friendly new town. When she fell chronically ill and faced a dark night of the soul, she had to rearrange and reconsider her life and life choices in order to regain her health. Kay believes that whatever the circumstances, healing is always possible. Check out the town John & Kay are building: Winthrop A few other useful links: Jenna Kutcher’s The Podcast Lab Course Katharine’s Writings