In this heart-opening conversation, choir leader and podcast host Lisa Littlebird sits down with actor and Vedic meditation teacher Jeff Kober to ask how we move from polarization toward lasting harmony. Referencing the Gene Keys (especially Key 17 on opinions → farsightedness → omniscience, and Key 51 on trust) as a compass, they explore the fear-driven “survival self,” tribalism, and the ego’s twin traps of smallness and grandiosity. Jeff shares how daily meditation practice has helped him dis-identify from fear, and he shares a story from the stage about leaping into the unknown and discovering real-time trust. Together they reframe spiritual practice as process over product, anchored in service and community—where a shared purpose creates a field that lifts everyone. The episode closes with “When We Sing” by Olivia Fern—an invitation to feel, receive, and join the chorus.https://jeff-kober.com https://asongforallofus.orgWholehearted Chorus Concerts:San Diego, CATuesday, October 14, 7:30-9pmat the Joan Kroc Center in San DiegoWednesday, October 22nd, 7:30-9pmat the Golden State Theater in Monterey, CA
In this episode, Lisa speaks with Richard Rudd, the author of The Gene Keys, about the intersection between spiritual contemplation and music. This beautiful and optimistic conversation centers how the The Gene Keys can be used to expand our exploration of how we might move from polarized division to harmony. In the process, they cover a range of terrain, including their late, mutual friend Don Rosenthal and virtues of empathy, refinement, and even marriage on a path of devotion. Podcast: https://asongforallofus.orgThe Gene Keys: https://home.genekeys.com/Gene Keys referenced in this episode: 13, 25, 29, 50The song shared in this episode is Starsong + Get Together, by Lisa Littlebird and Chet Powers: https://thebirdsings.com/starsong-get-together
In this episode, Lisa talks with Sorah Nutting, one of the singer-songwriters in the group MaMuse. We talk about how the songs grow us up, the wisdom of humor, revealing our shadows as a liberatory practice, our lives as a microcosm of the whole, and how the complex search for lineage can help us come closer to home.For more information about this podcast: https://asongforallofus.orgFor more information about Mamuse: https://mamuse.orgFor more information about Wholehearted Chorus and get tickets to our upcoming concerts with MaMuse: https://wholeheartedchorus.org
In this short intro episode, Lisa explains the intention of this series and some of the recurring concepts and themes that will weave through the upcoming conversations.The upcoming concerts with The Wholehearted Chorus & MaMuse are: October 14 - San Diego, CA *RESERVE TICKETS*October 22nd - Monterey, CA *RESERVE TICKETS*