ABT Time

All things ABT, start to finish. Host Dr. Randy Olson a decade ago formulated the ABT Narrative Template built around the three words And, But, Therefore. It is now the centerpiece of his books, “Houston, We Have A Narrative,” “Narrative is Everything,” and “The Narrative Gym.” In this weekly hour long post he will discuss observations, applications and implications of this powerful tool that is at the core of his narrative training program and effective communication of all forms.

ABT Time Episode 62 - ABT Teammate Park Howell discusses his new A.I. StoryCycle Genie

Park Howell, the host of the podcast, “The Business of Story," joins Randy, Matthew, and Charles Delahunt of GH Labs to present his new A.I.-driven StoryCycle Genie.  It’s a powerful resource that will analyze your website and tell you how the public perceives your brand.  It’s still in beta testing, but he applies it to our website abtnarrative.com and gives us the rundown on how we’re coming off. Park Howell https://x.com/ParkHowell https://businessofstory.com Randy Olson https://x.com/ABTagenda Randy's Blog: https://abtagenda.substack.com/ Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://abtnarrative.com/  

04-14
51:10

ABT Time Episode 61 - Book Versus Movie: Michael Backes, long time collaborator of Michael Crichton, discusses various incarnations of “Jurassic Park."

Did you know there was an entire first version of the novel, “Jurassic Park,” written and thrown away? Michael Backes is a long-time buddy who collaborated with Michael Crichton on a number of projects, including writing the screenplays for two of his novels. In this episode he is quizzed by ABT Team members Mike Strauss and his daughter Liz Strauss who recently re-read the book and had lots of questions. Randy Olson https://bsky.app/profile/abtagenda.bsky.social https://x.com/ABTagenda Randy's Blog: https://abtagenda.substack.com/ Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtnarrative.com

03-26
01:08:54

ABT Time Episode 60 - AN ABT KINDRED SPIRIT: "Concising" with Laura Shields and her Red Thread Project from Brussels

We got lots of nice people who send us nice emails about how they have been using the ABT Framework in communication. Laura Shields from Brussels, with her Red Thread project is a great example. In her case, she sent such a cool email we begged her to join us on the podcast for a little chat which led into strange and elusive concepts like "concising." Randy Olson https://x.com/ABTagenda Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/ Laura Shields https://www.redthreadeu.com/blog/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurashieldsmediatrainer/  

01-15
55:24

ABT Time Episode 59 - Our Top 5 ABT Events of 2024

You would think after 15 years of developing the ABT and 10 years of conducting Narrative Training with the last 5 years filled with the intensive ABT course we would be worn down, BUT to the contrary, it’s more fun and interesting than ever, THEREFORE join Randy Olson and Matthew David in reviewing a great year of ABT activities culminating with the Top 5 ABT Events of 2024.   HAPPY HOLIDAYS Everyone! Randy Olson https://x.com/ABTagenda Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

12-24
01:00:07

ABT Time Episode 58 - The Panel Discussion

PART 3 OF THE 3 PART SERIES:  Randy Olson, PhD, author of 11 books on communication hosts the discussion of the two case studies joined by Australians Rod Lamberts, PhD, Deputy Director of the Australian National Centre for the Public Awareness of Science (CPAS), Jayde Lovell, Director of ReAgency Science Marketing and Discovery Channel Host, plus Park Howell, host of the podcast, “The Business of Story." Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/ Park Howell https://twitter.com/ParkHowell https://businessofstory.com Rod Lamberts https://twitter.com/rodl http://wholesomeshow.com/ Jayde Lovell https://x.com/JaydeLovell https://www.youtube.com/ScIQ

05-22
54:55

ABT Time Episode 57 - The Australia Story

PART 2 OF THE 3 PART SERIES:  In 2023 the country of Australia voted on THE INDIGENOUS VOICE REFERENDUM, a ballot initiative asking to approve an alteration to the Australian Constitution that would recognise Indigenous Australians in the document through prescribing a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.  Proponents of the initiative spent $67 million (AUS), more than double their opponents.  It lost in all 5 states and one of the two territories.  In this episode we talk with long time activist for aboriginal rights Molly Toyne who was present for the campaign and vote. Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

05-22
39:57

ABT Time Episode 56 - The North Dakota Story

PART 1 OF THE 3 PART SERIES: In 2014 the state of North Dakota voted on MEASURE 5, a ballot initiative asking to channel 5% of the state’s oil and gas revenues into wildlife conservation activities. Proponents of the initiative spent $4 million which was more than double their opponents. It lost, 20:80. In this episode we talk with North Dakota aquatic ecologist Rick Nelson, PhD, who was present for the campaign and vote. Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​  Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

05-22
40:45

ABT Time Episode 55 - Our New DAY BT Training Program with our new ABT Quantifier, Hailey Woodworth

By last year the time had come for a shift in our ABT training program.  We ran Story Circles for 5 years until the pandemic forced us to shift from in-person to online training.  Then last year we began getting the signals that people were growing tired of sitting in front of computer screens.  THEREFORE … we came up with a new form of training, The DAY BT Program. In this episode, our first of the year (been a very busy year) we update you on all things ABT, give a detailed description of the DAY BT (which we’re now running with World Bank, National Park Service, Global Health Labs, and others), then bring on recent college graduate Hailey Woodworth who is now working as our “Quantifier,” applying the new simple PCI metrics we’ve developed for analyzing the structure of ABTs for an entire group to assess their progress and guide their further work on the ABT. Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

04-09
44:38

ABT Time Episode 54 - It’s about ACTION: Interview with John Roome, World Bank, about his ABT site visit videos

John Roome is a World Bank director who took part in ousr ABT training program last year both at the retreat in Nepal in September then the full ABT Framework course in the fall. As he tells about in this interview, he heard the details on the ABT, asked some tough questions to “kick the tires,” then immediately set to work using it to craft 90 videos that summarize the World Bank work in various Asian countries which you can view here: http://abtframework.com/the-john-roome-world-bank-abts/ Randy Olson  https://twitter.com/ABTagenda ​Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

11-28
01:03:15

ABT Time Episode 53 - Time for a little ABT Psychodrama! (bring in the lawyers)

A tremendous discussion with defense lawyer and ABT Narrative Gym book coauthor Doug Passon plus his trial lawyering collaborator Patrick Barone, Esq. about their use of “Psychodrama” in preparation for defending their clients.  It’s a great discussion of how they are both using the ABT and Dobzhansky, as well as Doug’s ABT analysis of the iconic Miranda Rights pointing out the (quite possibly intentional) lack of narrative strength in the statement. Randy Olsonhttps://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/ Doug Passon https://www.dougpassonlaw.com/ https://twitter.com/dougpassonlaw Set For Sentencing Podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/set-for-sentencing/id1622272089 Patrick Barone https://www.baronedefensefirm.com https://www.michiganpsychodramacenter.com/

11-21
53:58

ABT Time Episode 52 - Who Knew: Introducing the 6th Version of the Narrative Gym Book: MEDICINE

Join Navid Ghaffari, M.D. (recent graduate of Harvard Medical School) and me as we tell about our great collaboration on the 7th chapter of the new book, along with the raves of long time ABT team member Julie Claussen.   Turns out Navid already knew the ABT structure long ago, he just didn’t know that he knew — like lots of medical professionals.  Who knew! Navid GhaffariLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/navidrghaffari/ Julie Claussen Twitter: https://twitter.com/julielovesfish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iheartfish/ Randy OlsonTwitter: https://twitter.com/ABTagenda Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/  

11-01
47:09

ABT Time Episode 51 - Meet the New Structuralists: Ayla Fox and Devo Brown

We’ve added a new position to the Working Circles element of the ABT Framework course. They’re called Structuralists. Their role is to sit on the periphery of each Working Circle, muted most of the time, listening to make sure the group follows the basic structure for how to run the half hour session. When things jump the track, they jump in. Our first two Structuralists are bulldozer driver (literally) Ayla Fox and carpenter (literally) Devo Brown. In this episode we let you hear a slice of our Monday morning weekly meeting. Devo Brown  http://www.devoabrown.com/ Ayla Fox https://www.instagram.com/ayfx/ Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

05-18
47:47

ABT Time Episode 50 - Legacy of Conquest: 5 Questions for Historian Patty Limerick as her Landmark Book turns 45, asked by my brother, Eric Olson.

In 1987 Patty Limerick changed “the narrative” of the American West with her landmark book, “Legacy of Conquest,” which painted a different portrait of the frontier from the traditional romantic notions of cowboys riding the range.  My brother Eric was so deeply moved by the book that I suggested he conduct this interview, structured around 5 questions that he supplements with quotes from the book.  It’s a great discussion that explores such ABT-related topics as revisionism, stereotypes, and the basic question of accuracy versus a good story. Patty Limerick Blog:  https://www.centerwest.org/about/patty/blog-not-my-first-rodeo Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda ​Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

04-27
54:56

ABT Time Episode 49 - Can the ABT help with the upcoming Wild Fire Season? A discussion with Christy Brigham, National Park Service, and Alison Mims, U.S. Forest Service

Christy Brigham of the National Park Service was a guest on one of our first episodes (our special about wildfire in the US West and Australia) and Alison Mims is a veteran of both Story Circles and the ABT Framework Course (which Christy also took).  We talk about the upcoming wild fire season and the challenges of Incident Communications.  Can the ABT help? Christy Brighamhttps://www.csun.edu/science-mathematics/biology/christy-brigham Alison Mimshttps://wfmrda.nwcg.gov/about-us/meet-wfm-rda-staff Randy Olsonhttps://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/  

04-05
47:54

ABT Time Episode 48 - Marine biologist/ocean engineer Dr. Mark Patterson of Northeastern University (and Randy Olson’s officemate 40 years ago) shares ABT insights and crazy stories of ocean exploration

Once upon a time Randy Olson and Mark Patterson were officemates at Harvard and spent countless hours trying to make sense of how scientists communicate.  It’s a lotta years later.  One became a superstar ocean engineer, biomechanics expert, and coral reef ecologist, the other ran off to Hollywood.  In this discussion they reminisce about the past, relish in the present, and wonder about the future. Mark Pattersonhttps://cos.northeastern.edu/people/mark-patterson/ https://twitter.com/Aquanaut1957 Randy Olsonhttps://twitter.com/ABTagenda​0 Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

03-27
58:51

ABT Time Episode 47 - AN ABT SYNTHESIS: Park Howell uses his 400th episode of his “Business of Story” podcast to summarize the ABT Framework to date

Advertising executive and podcaster Park Howell has been part of our ABT group for a decade.  He is currently one of the four guest lecturers in the ABT Framework course for over two years.  For the 400th episode of his “Business of Story” podcast he went back through every episode where he discussed the ABT and pulled together an excellent synthesis of where we are .  It’s really well edited and brings in about 15 different voices along the way.  Huge thanks to Park for doing this. Park Howell https://twitter.com/ParkHowell https://businessofstory.com Randy Olsonhttps://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

03-20
01:10:14

ABT Time Episode 46 - An ABT Early Adopter for Undergrads: Emory University Geologist Dr. Tony Martin tells about his use of the ABT in his environmental science course for the past few years.

Dr. Tony Martin began tweeting enthusiastically in 2018 about his use of the ABT with undergraduates. He had read the “Houston” book and set to work having students apply the ABT Framework throughout the semester.  His work with them becomes another ABT Hotspot for us to study how it works at the undergraduate level. Tony Martin https://twitter.com/ichnologist https://www.amazon.com/stores/Anthony-J.-Martin/author/B00JVW0KMG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_J._Martin Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

03-01
52:43

ABT Time Episode 45 - Brave New ABT World for 2023! Matthew and I discuss.

My assistant-turned-colleague Matthew David and I discuss the break neck speed that 2023 has started out with for the ABT and us. From the World Bank in Asia to Pfizer globally we are now engaged in ABT training round the clock and all over the place. Which means this hour discussion between just Matt and me is perhaps our best episode ever. Happy 2023 everyone! Two podcasts where Randy Olson uses the Matt Template for his overall presentation: 1) CLIMATE COMMUNICATION https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/exercising-narrative-intuition-with-randy-olson/id1652949439?i=1000590644492 2) COVID COMMUNICATION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppanit98aM\ Matthew David http://www.matthewmdavid.com/ https://twitter.com/mattmdavid Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda ​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

01-17
01:08:54

ABT Time Episode 44 - The Ultimate Arsch-Bombe: Our 5th and Newest version of The Narrative Gym (this time for science grad students and postdocs)

Drs. Marlis Douglas, Keisha Bahr, and Randy Olson (the co-authors of our new book) discuss the origins of the new term BUT BOMB, the Matt Template (Heaven, Hell, Action), bored moms, and of course how the ABT Framework can save your life.  PS - "Arsch-Bombe” is the German term for a “cannonball” where you jump in the water ass-first.  Which is the perfect bit of imagery for having a powerful statement of contradiction at the heart of your narrative.   The Narrative Gym for Science Graduate Students and Postdocs: Using the ABT Framework for Proposals, Papers, Presentations, and Life in General: https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Science-Graduate-Students-Postdocs-ebook/dp/B0BBLBR69T/ Marlis Douglas https://www.marlisrdouglas.org/ Keisha Bahr http://www.bahrlab.com/ https://twitter.com/KeishaBahr Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

10-27
40:15

ABT Time Episode 43 - Dr. Juli Berwald: A Brave Scientist Talks About Her Love of Spinelessness

Juli Berwald is the author of, “Spineless,” a wonderful, captivating exploration of the gelatinous world of jellyfish presented with the backdrop of her journey from biological oceanographer to educational content creator to author. Juli Berwald https://www.juliberwald.com/ https://twitter.com/juliberwald "Spineless": https://www.amazon.com/Spineless-Science-Jellyfish-Growing-Backbone/dp/0735211280/ Randy Olson https://twitter.com/ABTagenda​ Randy's Blog: http://scienceneedsstory.com Learn more about the ABT Framework Course: http://www.abtframework.com/

08-30
01:03:30

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