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Have you ever found yourself walking through a door you never expected—but somehow knew God opened for you? On this week’s episode, Camille Fronk Olson shares her own personal experience with the subheading of her new book, “But If Not”—this is her story of “Finding God in Unmet Expectations and Unwanted Detours.” 1:45- Our Stories in Hindsight 7:36- Why Now? 10:31- Prosperity Gospel Fallacy 20:03- Leaving to God the Management of Blessings 26:07- Physical Bodies 34:16- Mandatory Vs. Voluntary Obedience 39:08- Because of Jesus Christ 42:15- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “If going down that detour that He has sent us down leads us to trust more in Him, it is a glorious life.” Links: But If Not- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/PR00001364.html Elder Vargas’s general conference talk- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/04/34vargas?lang=eng  

Morgan Scalley is recognized as one of the top defensive coordinators in college football, known for preparing his players to be ready for whatever comes their way on the field. But for Coach Scalley, the most meaningful preparation happens off the field. In this week’s episode, he shares how living the gospel of Jesus Christ has taught him to face life with faith and why the joy found in the Savior’s Atonement far surpasses any victory on the scoreboard. 2:26- Football Vs. Spreading the Gospel 5:26- Moment of Loudness 7:23- Elder Neal A. Maxwell 11:00- Family 12:00- Seeking Christ Not Perfection 15:03- Learning From a Very Public Mistake 25:54- Keeping Covenants in Focus 30:40- Leaders 34:32- U-Turn 39:26- Raising Teenagers 43:18- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “If the only skill sets we teach are how to become a better football player, we’re failing these young men.”

From “The Miracle” to “Because,” Shawna Edwards has written songs that help children, youth, and adults feel the doctrine of Christ. But behind her music is a story of perseverance, opposition, and following inspiration. In this episode, Shawna shares lessons learned about faith, family, and creativity—and why she believes it’s never too late to make a difference. 2:25- Unheralded Work 6:09- Songs 11-Year-Old Boys Want to Sing 11:36- A Supportive Spouse 13:35- It’s Not Too Late 17:08- He Has Spread the Music 22:50- What Makes a Great Song? 24:58- The Doctrine With a Melody 27:32- Opposition 32:48- Inspiration or Imposter Syndrome? 35:48- Miracles and “The Miracle” 43:27- A New Generation of Hymns 45:20- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “Satan would love every good thing you set out to do to not happen.”

What if you paused every week to evaluate your life—not in terms of achievements, but in terms of relationships, discipleship, and faithfulness? For Gary Crittenden, that’s been a Sunday tradition for decades. Inspired by Stephen R. Covey’s “First Things First,” Gary developed a habit to help him keep his priorities straight and on this week’s episodes he shares the ways this practice has helped him in his efforts to become a better disciple of Jesus Christ, a better husband, father, and son. 1:46- A Weekly Reflection 7:58- Keeping an Appointment With Yourself 11:31- Thinkers and Doers 13:33- Using Professional Skills to Serve the Lord 21:27- Keep Walking 25:23- “There Is Nobody Better” 30:02- Why Prioritize Physical Health? 34:48- Honoring Aging Parents 38:21- Networking Vs. Real Relationships 43:09- The Courage to Say No 46:53- What Do We Want Most? 49:33- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “As much as we can do, we do and we try to make ourselves as good as we can but even after all of that, it is only by the grace of our Savior Jesus Christ that we actually can receive true perfection in this life…” Links- Utah Business article by Tad Walch- https://www.utahbusiness.com/profiles/2024/12/13/gary-crittenden-wall-street-problem-solver/ President Jeffrey R. Holland “Good Things To Come”- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nczw6xHJ0I The Many Lessons of Multiple Sclerosis by Catherine Crittenden- https://ldswomenproject.com/interview/the-many-lessons-of-multiple-sclerosis/

When Emily Peterson’s husband passed away after a short but heart wrenching battle with brain cancer, she was left with grief, children to raise, and a business to run. But through it all, she felt the steady presence of her Heavenly Father—and of her husband, guiding her from beyond the veil. In this week’s episode, Emily opens up about love that endures, grief that refines, and a journey that is anything but solitary. 4:24- Nathan and Emily 5:42- Losing a Baby 8:36- The Beginning of the Blankets 11:05- Working Together as a Couple 13:40- Two Ancestors 15:47- Devastating Diagnosis 20:37- But If Not 27:14- Guiding Kids Through Grief 33:36- Saranoni Cares 38:21- Making Nathan A Part of Everything 43:05- Today 45:21- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “If we come out of this with greater faith in Jesus Christ and closer as a family, it will be worth it in the end.” -Nathan Peterson Links:  The Saranoni Story- https://saranoni.com/pages/about-us?srsltid=AfmBOorAcQ1LVhOw6_NL8PqKaVcFB88WTfD6kVgaxUD1BVl8WpdPpOIk Sister Wendy Watson Nelson- “My Soul Delighteth” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_HUTTx7q4

Chad Hymas was just 27 years old when a ranching accident placed him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Over 24 years later, Hymas has proved all naysayers wrong. He has experienced many things people told him at the time of the accident would never be possible. He has traveled the world sharing his story and on this week’s episode, he shares the role his faith in Christ has had in the entire journey.  “God loves our faith more than anything else.” 2:12- God Sends Us Warnings 10:02- Cut the Tie 15:53- The Faith To Not Be Healed 21:00- Taking Covenants Seriously 27:30- Abundance Vs. Scarcity 31:51- Become As a Child 39:07- Without Having To Be Healed  43:45- What Does It Mean To You To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?  Links:  Chad’s website- https://www.chadhymas.com Chad’s book- https://a.co/d/iajQDTI  

Elle Rowley is a woman on a mission to change the perception of motherhood. For someone who believes motherhood gave her the confidence to do more and be more in life, she wants to help others begin to view motherhood as transformative instead of something to be endured. On this week’s episode, we talk with Elle about why she believes motherhood is a hero’s journey—one absolutely worth taking.   “[Motherhood] tests every part of you but on the other side of that is transformation. It is finding yourself, it is knowing yourself. That archetype is a Christ archetype. It is service. It is losing yourself and finding it.”   3:12- Potential Unlocked 7:15- Softness, Humility and Open-Heartedness 13:35- Combatting Feelings of Inadequacy 16:12- Maiden, Mother, and Matriarch 21:37- Experiencing Our Own Paths 24:37- Nothing Too Precious 28:16- Losing Your Life 32:38- “Bring the Baby” 39:58- Honoring Our Elders 44:08- Grandma Moses 49:49- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

President Keoni Kauwe and his wife, Monica, left behind the life they’d built in Utah when they were asked five years ago to serve as President and First Lady of BYU-Hawaii. Since then, they’ve fallen in love all over again with the island President Kauwe grew up on and on this week’s episode he shares what he’s learned about connecting with college students and what best prepares them for success when they leave home. 3:00- Relating to College Students 8:48- A 16-year-old College Freshman 12:52- The Wisdom in God’s Timeline 18:10- Exercising Priesthood Power as a Married Couple 22:08- The Unique Nature of BYU-Hawaii 24:07- The Polynesian Cultural Center 28:16- Grateful, Humble and Determined 31:00- Sacrifice 34:30- Culture Night 41:20- Willing To Walk Away 47:00- Preparing Kids to Leave Home 54:05- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “When you do what He asks, the blessings are far beyond anything you could possibly imagine and far beyond than you’ve given up.” Links: President Kauwe’s BYU-Hawaii devotionals- https://president.byuh.edu/john-s-k-kauwe-iii Morgan’s BYU-Hawaii Devotional- Trusting God With the Rest of Your Story- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm-jX12Uwfk BYU Jerusalem story- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2005/10/the-light-in-their-eyes?lang=eng

Over the last few years, in addition to teaching young single adults a temple prep class she calls “Temple Plus,” Melinda Brown has traveled from her home in Utah to Durham, North Carolina to pursue a degree from Duke Divinity School. In the process, she has found her love and appreciation for the temple deepen. On this week’s episode, she shares why she believes the gifts God intends to endow us with within His holy house are intended to bless our lives in the present.  She now recognizes that eternity is now. 2:50- Divinity School 11:25- Liturgy and Temple Worship 16:15- The Giver and the Receiver 22:51- Teaching Children About the Temple 31:21- Seeking a Positive Temple Experience 38:19- Temple Garments 43:25- Practice 48:09- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “Every day is a new starting point and we just get to keep trying. It’s all practice.” Links:  An Endowment of Love- https://bit.ly/3S2OqVu Eve and Adam- https://bit.ly/4kahyGe Instagram Live with Mindy Brown- https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ch0wfgLpIGl/?igsh=cXl1MWozdmo4aTNv Previous All In episode with Mindy Brown- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in/id1439975046?i=1000467433196 YouTube mini-class on the Temple with Mindy- https://youtu.be/dw1CkaFJp_w Other recent interviews with Mindy about “An Endowment of Love”-  Out of the Best Books: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-best-books/id1779601020?i=1000704289819 Magnify- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-fresh-perspective-on-our-temple-experience/id1643211858?i=1000702502616

The world undoubtedly moves at a faster pace today than it did during any previous period of Church history but historian Rachel Cope is a believer that, in all generations, God often aids our conversion by inviting us (and sometimes forcing us) to slow down. On this week’s episode she shares her own experience as well as examples from Church History that illustrate the fact that the process of conversion is not a race but rather something that requires work and often takes time. 2:18- Publicly Sharing a Private Struggle 7:40- An Interest in Ordinary People 9:57- Focus on Healing the Whole 17:29- The Miracles of Modern-Day Living 23:12- Lucy and Emma 29:56- Polygamy 40:48- Slow Work 49:37- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “Humans turn things into a race, God doesn’t. God wants us to take whatever time we need and if it takes five years, that’s great—if it takes 50 years, that’s great. He’s not worried about the deadlines, He just wants us to be on the journey.”

When questions of faith shake the foundation of one partner’s belief, what happens to the marriage built on shared spiritual foundation? On this week’s episode, David and Catie Borland share the story of a season of searching that spanned years and how a marriage rooted in open communication, faith and love helped them cleave to one another through it all—and ultimately resulted in stronger faith than ever before. 1:41- Foundations 3:26- An Unintended Destination 4:57- An Open Line of Communication 7:32- An All-Consuming Search For Truth 12:25- The Modern-Day Wrestle 19:54- ‘Where Would Satan Start?’ 28:20- All a Spouse Can Do 37:54- Leaning Into the Parts You Love 45:10- Falling in Love 54:00- Encouragement For Others 58:40- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “This isn’t an emergency. Drop your shoulders, exhale. Keep God in this first and foremost. Cut out the distractions…and find out what God thinks and what God wants you to know.”

Actor Paul Wuthrich has played a variety of roles, many of them real people from Church history, some well-known and others with virtually unrecognizable names but from each of these roles, he’s learned about what it means to live on a consecrated life. On this week’s episode, he shares what he has learned through a part-time career in acting about submission and humbly seeking the will of God. 1:42- Portraying a Prophet in a Full Circle 8:49- A Career Shaped by Faith 12:25- Standing In The Savior’s Shoes 17:38- Handling Rejection 20:54- Memorizing Technique 24:58- Real People Vs. Fictional Characters 30:32- Learning Through a Role 37:04- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “How many people are there out there just quietly sacrificing, doing the Lord’s work with no attention, no accolade but there’s just doing it because God wants them to do it and they know it’s the right thing to do? And I thought, ‘That’s the kind of person I want to be.’” Links: Raising the Bar movie- https://raisingthebarmovie.com Witnesses Initiative- https://witnessesfilm.com

At just 15 years old, Cassidy Stay endured the unimaginable—the tragic loss of her entire family in a horrific act of violence. Left for dead, she survived by pretending to be lifeless, and with remarkable courage, alerted police to the killer’s next target, potentially saving many more lives. Now, a decade later, Cassidy reflects on her journey through grief, healing, and unshakable faith. In this week’s episode, she shares how the gospel of Jesus Christ has sustained her, the peace she’s found in His promises, and the hope of being reunited with her loved ones again. 2:34- Remembering a Family 7:05- A Choice to Be Happy 9:06- The Day That Changed Everything 31:55- Victim Impact Statement 37:36- Dumbledore’s Letter 40:26- A Future Reunion 45:00- Giving Burdens to Christ 53:09- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “I have something to look forward to and, for me, if I don’t have that, what am I doing? If I’m not working for that, what am I working towards? I am so excited to see my family again.” Links: Cassidy Stay’s Victim Impact Statement- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3NcXqwoLWw Cassidy Stay and attorneys address media- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnE3eQSST5E&pp=ygUMY2Fzc2lkeSBzdGF5

Monte Deere and his brother Michael were born just 14 months apart—the kind of brothers who shared a bedroom—and a paper route—even when they didn’t have to. So, when Michael took his own life while Monte and his wife were serving as mission leaders in the Spain Malaga Mission, Monte found himself grieving in a foreign country far away from his family. Since returning home, Monte has dealt with health challenges that have disrupted his own quality of life—even causing him to be released from a church calling he loved. On this week’s episode, Monte shares how he has been a recipient of the balm that only the Savior can provide. “I think being all in for Him is creating a little space for Him, listening to Him say, ‘Come, let me pick you up. Let me brush you off. Let me apply a little salve, a little balm. And let me give you some bread and some spiritual water. Let me clean you from the inside out and then you can be back being all in on the things that you choose but give me room, give me space. Let me love you. Let me do for you what you can’t do for yourself, what only I can do.’” 1:43- A Father’s Example of Hard Work 5:01- Watching an Adult Sibling Struggle 12:29- A Family Called to Serve 17:54- Devastating News 21:51- Salve From the Spirit 24:48- Unexpected Health Challenges 35:34- A Wake Up Call 37:56- Lifting the Hands Which Hang Down 41:42- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ Links: Elder Renlund on suicide -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAYgY8SPtEWH5oAfQlfGFyKk77nf-S-tH President Ballard on suicide -https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1987/10/suicide-some-things-we-know-and-some-we-do-not?lang=eng

Sarah Sun Kanell began attending a Salt Lake City residential ward as a high schooler. In that ward, she experienced what she describes as true belonging. This was only the beginning of Sarah’s conversion to the gospel of Jesus Christ but the people she met exemplified the person and disciple of Jesus Christ she wanted to be. On this week’s episode, Sarah shares what she has learned about the contribution we all have the ability to make to the Church of Jesus Christ. Time stamps: 3:25- Honoring Sacrifice of Others 9:27- High Expectations and Gentle Parenting? 17:20- An Unconventional Living Situation 19:31- Gathered In 30:17- Barbara and Gaining a Testimony 33:13- Chosen 40:05- Unhistoric Acts 46:34- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “If I’m willing to choose Him then I think He can turn me into something better than what I can even imagine right now, and what better thing is there to be than His?” Made For This book link- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P6073753.html BYU Hawaii talk- https://speeches.byuh.edu/trusting-god-with-the-rest-of-your-story Lean in with Lizzy episode- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lean-in-with-lizzy/id1768159695?i=1000688795426 Kate Holbrook podcast- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in/id1439975046?i=1000526603170 Samuel Brown “Where The Soul Hungers” book- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/5252752.html?srsltid=AfmBOoq-XWAk7RyClW3i034cMC7VcJTfOZJEzzPca4uhGJrdjKMt_eWZ Unhistoric Acts painting- https://www.thecompassgallery.com/product-page/unhistoric-acts-barton    

Prior to her son’s birth in 2020, Caitlin Bekker didn’t have experience with congenital heart disease. Five years later, being a “heart mom” has become a core part of her identity. On this week’s episode, Caitlin shares how watching her little boy go through multiple open heart surgeries has refined her and have taught her to trust in the Lord, live in gratitude in the present, and she hopes they will ultimately help her become the person and disciple of Jesus Christ she would like to be. 1:45- Receiving and Processing a Diagnosis 7:27- Health Literacy 10:26- Finding a Community 12:09- Living in the Present 14:27- Why? 19:14- Mom Guilt 22:40- Bringing Matthew Home 25:05- Comforting Those Who Stand In Need of Comfort 34:08- Hard Is Hard 38:08- Perspective 40:49- Update 43:00- Living in the Present Pt. 2 45:27- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “Life’s going to pass by no matter what so you might as well let the hard situations help you to become more of what you want to be.” Episodes References:  President Jeffrey R. Holland said, “With apologies to Elder Neal A. Maxwell for daring to modify and enlarge something he once said, I too suggest that “one’s life … cannot be both faith-filled and stress-free.” It simply will not work “to glide naively through life,” saying as we sip another glass of lemonade, “Lord, give me all thy choicest virtues, but be certain not to give me grief, nor sorrow, nor pain, nor opposition. Please do not let anyone dislike me or betray me, and above all, do not ever let me feel forsaken by Thee or those I love. In fact, Lord, be careful to keep me from all the experiences that made Thee divine. And then, when the rough sledding by everyone else is over, please let me come and dwell with Thee, where I can boast about how similar our strengths and our characters are as I float along on my cloud of comfortable Christianity.” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/10/57holland?lang=eng Morgan’s Interview with Kate Bowler- https://www.deseret.com/2018/5/18/20645268/q-a-duke-divinity-school-s-kate-bowler-explains-how-cancer-has-helped-her-appreciate-life-god-s-love/

Taysom Hill has been called a “Swiss Army knife” because of his ability to play many positions on the football field. And, while he has taken each of these positions seriously, when injuries have kept him from being able to suit up, Hill knows that his identity does not begin and end with playing football. On this week’s episode, Hill shares with us insight into his life as a football player but also as a son, a husband, a father, a brother, and a disciple of Jesus Christ. 2:27- Nature Vs. Nurture? 9:06- What Makes a Great Coach? 14:37- “Taysom Gets Rocked” 18:57- Approaching the Topic of a Mission in Recruiting 24:10- Meant To Be At BYU 27:26- The Weight of the Job 30:16- #7 34:57- Season-ending Injuries 37:59- Drew Brees 42:23- A Disciple and Dad in the NFL 48:59- Infertility 54:56- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “There’s no part of me that ever questions God’s goodness.” Source information: Another great podcast with Taysom Hill- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_41cOQATE Taysom on Leading Saints- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Wpdpuuvdg

In August 2024, Meg Walter, the writer of a humorous Deseret News column, unexpectedly lost her 62-year-old father to a heart attack. Suddenly, her columns, although still funny at times, took on a more somber tone. The humorous journalist was forced to work through something that faces each of us at some point: Grief. On this week’s episode, she shares how that grief helped her settle into her faith. 2:06- Observation and Humor 4:48- Latter-day Saint Culture 7:41- Being Open About Faith 12:50- The Loss of a Father 18:19- What Makes a Life Well-Lived? 23:10- Receiving Service 28:12- Two Things Can Be True 32:08- The Beauty of “The Ward” 38:21- The Value of Faith 42:24- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “I need that hope that my faith offers me. I am getting much more comfortable with what I don’t know and what I hope. And I’m leaning more into what I hope.” Links: Meg’s columns about her dad’s passing: https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/08/22/losing-a-parent-grief/ https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/10/12/running-through-grief-st-george-marathon/ https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/11/27/grieving-loss-love-holidays/ https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/12/28/grief-lessons-learned/ Morgan’s all-time favorite article that makes her laugh every time: https://www.deseret.com/2023/3/8/23627893/new-trader-joes-draper-utah-person-you-want-to-be/

For five years now, Katie Wade-Neser has been sharing suggestions and ideas for helping parents teach Come, Follow Me to even the tiniest children. She does not feel the idea for the Instagram account or even many of the ideas she has shared have come from her, but instead from a loving Heavenly Father who loves His children. She is simply grateful to have been a part of it! 3:39- A Generational Passion 6:57- The Origin Story 14:09- What Makes Children Special 19:30- Teaching to the Strengths of Children 27:58- Overcoming Barriers and Establishing Expectations 34:27- A Vessel 38:20- Beauty in the Mess 41:14- Giving Grace 46:04- Questions As a Mother 49:17- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “Little kids deserve to be taught the things of God.”

Jenny Oaks Baker began playing the violin before elementary school and she has not stopped since. Her violin has taken her all around the world and given her opportunities she’d never dreamed of. But there have also been opportunities she has sought that have never come to fruition and other opportunities she didn’t even know to seek that have made her life much richer than it would have been otherwise. On this week’s episode, Jenny shares her witness that sometimes the Lord’s plans are much better than the plans we have for ourselves.  2:59- The Role of Parents 10:10- Music Education 11:41- Trusting the Lord 16:40- Choices as a Young Mom 27:36- Hard Work and Dreams 30:30- Performances Behind the Scenes 37:32- Identity and Talents 41:55- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? "It's hard to not know the future. I still want what I want and want to know what's going to happen. But the Lord provides"  Links: Jenny’s Christmas Tour Dates and Ticket Information: https://www.jennyoaksbaker.com/upcoming-events Jenny’s album, “The Redeemer”: https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P6002668.html