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Author: Matika Wilbur & Adrienne Keene

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Welcome! All My Relations is a podcast hosted by Matika Wilbur (Swinomish and Tulalip) and Adrienne Keene (Cherokee Nation) to explore our relationships— relationships to land, to our creatural relatives, and to one another.  Each episode invites guests to delve into a different topic facing Native American peoples today. We keep it real, play some games, laugh a lot, and even cry sometimes. We invite you to join us!
20 Episodes
Join Matika and Adrienne In conversation with Jami Powell (Osage), Jaclyn Roessel (Diné) and Kristin Dorsey (Chickasaw), for the third and final episode of Indigenous Artist to Artist, Part 3: Who Decides? as we discuss the importance of indigenous people presenting, curating, and exhibiting themselves.As always, thank you to Ciara Sana for her amazing episode art, and Teo Elisio, for doing all the things. Thank you Max Levin for the music!!! Special thanks to Kristin Bolan and Will Paisley for supporting All My Relations. Support our Patreon! the show ( the show (
We welcome you into this intimate laughy conversation with three awesome full time artists--Photographer Ryan Redorn (Osage), painter Yatika Star Fields (Cherokee, Creek and Osage) and traditional tattoo artist Holly Nordlum (Inupiaq) for this second episode of Indigenous Artist to Artist as we discuss the importance of indigenous people holding space in the art world, the difference between help and inherent power, while we dare to imagine an otherwise— how beautiful might our world be if Native people were at the helm?Please follow and support the artists!Ryan Redcorn (@redcorn): Nordlum (@hollywouldif_shecould): www.naniqdesign.comYatika Fields (@yatikafields): always, thank you to Ciara Sana for her amazing episode art, and Teo Elisio, for doing all the things SPecial Kristin Bolan for your assistance.Also, welcome Will Paisley to the All My Relations team. Thanks for coordinating these cats. Support our Patreon! the show ( the show (
Mid-August every year is usually when Matika and Adrienne head out to New Mexico to get #SantaFancy, visit artist friends, and partake in all of the joy of Santa Fe Indian Market--the largest Native art market in the US. Like everything, Art Market was canceled in person this year, leaving us worried about and missing our artsy relatives. So we decided to launch a mini-series on Native art and artists!The goal of this series of episodes is two fold. In a world of cultural appropriation and “Native inspired” junk showing up on Instagram ads and in stores, we wanted you to get to know actual Indigenous artists. Folks who have been in the game for a long time, navigating the complicated and careful lines of culture, tradition, innovation, and art. We want you to hear their voices and their stories, know their work and their passion, and learn why its so important to support Native artists directly. Secondly, the pandemic has hit us all in a lot of different and difficult ways. But when the Native art world is so dependent on in person relationships, this time has meant that things have had to dramatically shift and change in a very short period of time. Many of our artist friends rely on art markets and shows for the majority of their income each year, and all of those have been cancelled. We wanted to bring these two pieces together, and introduce you to some of our artist friends, as well as check in and hear how their work and lives are moving forward in this new and challenging time. On this first episode, meet three awesome full time artists--Jewelers and metal smiths Pat Pruitt (Laguna Pueblo and Apache) and Waddie Crazyhorse (Cochiti Pueblo), and painter J. Nicole Hatfield (Comanche).Follow and support the artists!Pat Pruitt:, Crazyhorse:, Nicole Hatfield:,’s Catapult story on Kristen Dorsey: Fe Indian Market/SWAIA virtual market: Are The Seed Market (Native run market, postponed for 2020): always, thank you to Ciara Sana for her amazing episode art, and Teo Elisio, for doing all the things.Support our Patreon! the show (
Join us for a discussion with community organizer, citizen scientist, activist, water protector, entrepreneur, writer, gardener, and all around incredible Diné woman, Kim Smith. We talk with Kim about her work, aiming to understand how violence on the land is violence on our bodies, and that the inverse can also be true—healing the land is healing ourselves. Kim tells us about her 1200+ mile journey with Nihígaal Bee Lina (Journey For Existence) which walked to all of the sacred mountains of her people. She also discusses her work healing land in her home town of St. Michaels, Arizona and her long-term citizen science project to collect data from Navajo people about the impact of extractive energy plants in their homelands, and so much more. Kim is a beautiful example of what happens when you take matters into your own hands—taking things step by step, learning from other Indigenous communities, and implementing projects in a community-grounded way that takes into account all our human and non-human relations. We are so honored she drove across the southwest to talk with us, and know you’ll love her stories as well.  ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⁣+⁣This work is supported by The Wisteria Fund and our incredible Patreon subscribers. ⁣⠀⠀⠀⠀⁣⁣+⁣⁣Special Thanks to Max Levin, and Kyle for our new music, Ciara Sana for her amazing episode art, and Teo Elisio, for doing all the things.Support the show (
Whole Family Wellness

Whole Family Wellness


Join us for a discussion with Well For Culture founders Thosh Collins (WhaZhaZi, Haudenosaunee and O’otham) and Chelsea Luger (Anishinaabe & Lakota) as we discuss Whole Family Wellness. We cover an indigenous approach to prenatal, baby, postpartum, fatherhood, and a whole family approach to wellness. They study and implement lifestyle teachings of indigenous ancestors, while incorporating new information to contribute to ancient and ongoing chains of knowledge. Indigenous culture has always been dynamic, and wellness is an inherent aspect. Their good words help us to feel grounded amidst this time of pandemic, and we hope you will find comfort in their teachings as well.Well For Culture is is a grassroots initiative which aims to reclaim and revitalize Indigenous health and wellness, they say on their website, “Well For Culture promotes holistically well lifestyles. We believe in mind-body optimization through The Seven Circles Of Wellness. Much like a ceremony, a song, a story, or an activist movement, Well For Culture Is at once a space, a place, a group of people and an evolving idea.”+This work is supported by the National Geographic Society’s Emergency Fund for Journalists. The Wisteria Fund, and our incredible Patreon subscribers. +Special Thanks to Max Levin and Teo Shantz for our music, Ciara Sana for episode art, and Teo Elisio for doing all the things. +We want to hear from you! Please follow us on Instagram!Support the show (
Growing New Beginnings

Growing New Beginnings


Today we launch Season 2 of All My Relations: “Growing New Beginnings”! This episode was recorded around the new year when the world was functioning without Covid-19, and we were emerging from our off-season hibernation, reveling in new life, and trying to figure out a healthy and wellness-focused way forward. Then, things changed, and we sat on the episode for a bit. We decided to bring the conversation up to speed with the current moment and talk about how we’re riding out the pandemic in our homes, mourning losses and feeling scared, but also continuing to grow. In Season 2, we are dedicating several episodes to wellness.  We have amazing conversations on Whole Family Wellness with Thosh Collins and Chelsea Luger of Well For Culture, Healing the Land and Ourselves with Kim Smith, Building Indigenous Futures through Higher Education with Bryan Brayboy and Amanda Tachine, and a multi-part series on the movement to protect Mauna Kea in Hawai’i featuring a whole crew of scholars, activists, students, and community members. We continue to explore what it means to be a good relative to our families, the land, and one another, and especially during this time, how to take care of ourselves and our communities. We may sprinkle in some bonus content too, reacting to what is happening as the world continues to change around us. We are so excited to share all of this with you! +This work was supported by the National Geographic Society’s Emergency Fund for Journalists, The Wisteria Fund, and our incredible Patreon subscribers. +Special Thanks to Max Levin and Kyle Sherrer for our new music, Ciara Sana for her beautiful episode art, and Teo Elisio for his editing, mixing, tech support, moral support, and vision. + We also found out All My Relations was an “honoree” for the 2020 Webby's! We’re recognized in the “Diversity and Inclusion” category alongside some fantastic podcasts! So thank you for your continued support. We send big hugs. Support the show (
This bonus episode explores the impacts of Covid-19 in tribal communities. Even though tribal nations are most at risk, Indigenous voices have been widely left out of mainstream news coverage. Nationally, health experts and tribal leaders are sounding the alarm that Native Americans are particularly vulnerable to the spread of Covid-19. During this time of crisis, it is critically important to hear from national leadership. Listen in to hear conversation between Matika and New Mexico’s First District US Congresswoman, Deb Haaland (Laguna Pueblo); Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan (White Earth Band of Ojibwe); President of The National Congress of The American Indian, Fawn Sharp (Quinalt); Director of Urban Indian Health Institute, Abigail Echo-Hawk (Pawnee); President & CEO of Black Hills Center for American Indian Health, Dr. Jeff Henderson (Cheyenne River Sioux);  Indigenous Environment Network Organizer, Dallas Goldtooth (Mdewakanton Dakota and Dine); Nutritionist Valerie Segrest (Muckleshoot); Ethnobotanist Linda Black Elk (Catawba); and Medical Doctors Dr. Edi Chu and Dr. David Price.  Each speaks to crisis from their own perspective and offers insight. +++This work was supported by the National Geographic Society’s Emergency Fund for Journalists. Learn more:  @InsideNatGeo+++Special thanks to the team of people that put this episode together:Sound Engineer, Editing and Scoring: Teo ShantzProducer and Host: Matika WilburOriginal Episode Art: Ciara SanaMusic Composition: Alex Chadsey, Teo Shantz and Greg KramerProduction Assistance: Kristin Bolan+++Sending love to all our relatives at this time. We'd love to hear from you. Email us at, follow us on Instagram, or contribute to our patreon. Support the show (
Hundreds of years ago when colonizers instituted the idea of “blood quantum” as a means of reducing the Native population, our Native ancestors probably did not envision a modern Indigenous world of Tinder, multi-billion dollar tribal enterprises and per cap payments, or a world where who we love might determine if our children are considered Indigenous at all. Last episode we talked about Blood Quantum through history, law, science, and policy. In this episode, we’ll approach the topic on a more personal level--how does it affect our love lives? Join Matika and Adrienne as they talk with our production team members Brooke and Nita about how we’ve navigated finding partners, racist federal/tribal policy, and how we’ve had no choice but to consider how blood quantum affects our children, our families, and our nations.This is an emotional episode, we talk about a lot of really hard and personal things things--from enrollment and belonging, to cancer and to sexual assault. So we want to give you a heads up that this might be an episode you need to be emotionally ready for, and might want to give yourself the space to smudge or decompress after. But it’s also us--so we promise to maintain the chuckle.We’re also at the end of Season One! We’d especially like to thank Brooke and Nita for weighing in on this episode, and for all of their hard work on Season One. This couldn’t and wouldn’t be possible without the help of our good friend Teo Shantz, who does all the production, engineering, and editing for this project. Also Ciara Sana, who creates the most beautiful episode art for us. We also want to thank the amazing Katherine Paul aka Black Belt Eagle Scout for the music on this episode, and we especially want to thank you. Thank you for listening. We love you! We’ll be back soon.Support the show (
The foundational narrative we teach our children about Columbus is rooted in myth and falsity. Instead of teaching our real Native American history, or our real humanity, we’ve settled for American mythology. When we celebrate Columbus, we are blindly supporting indigenous erasure and perpetuating the romantic, dire, insatiable story of extinction. It’s the story that dilutes Native American genocide, and celebrates notions of pioneering, settlement, and manifest destiny. These myths reject indigenous intelligence, indigenous land, indigenous humanity, and dare we say, indigenous futures. So instead, today is a day to Celebrate Indigenous Peoples, and it is an important part of our movement— it centers our stories and therefore our resiliency:“Every Native American is a survivor, an anomaly, a surprise on earth. We were all slated for extinction before the march of progress. But surprise, we are progress. “    — Louise Erdrich, from First Person, First PeoplesIn the spirit of celebration, we invite you to listen to Adrienne and Matika discuss the complexity of this issue on our podcast All My Relations; and we encourage you to share it with your friends. If you live in one of 7 states or 130+ cities that has worked to #AbolishColumbusDay, then we applaud you. If you are still in the struggle to rewrite the narrative, we stand with you. ###Special thanks to Teo Shantz for editing and production. Shoutout to Ciara Sana for this beautiful artwork. Support the show (
Ep #10: Beyond Blood Quantum

Ep #10: Beyond Blood Quantum


Blood quantum. The percentage of Native “blood” one possesses, the fraction listed on Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood, and a fraught concept that has its defenders and dissenters in our communities. Despite its colonial origins, many tribes still use blood quantum as a requirement for tribal enrollment, and these fictional fractions carry huge weight in the lives of Indigenous Peoples. In this episode we hope to parse out some of these complications around the topic of blood quantum—legally and interpersonally, as well as the ways these metaphors of blood have moved into genetic science. Many of our Native nations are at a crisis point when it comes to thinking about enrollment, and notions of blood and belonging are at the center of that. Knowing all of this, where do we go from here? Join Matika and Adrienne as they discuss blood, enrollment, law, genetics and belonging with Charlotte Logan (Akwesasne Mohawk) a genetic researcher debunking blood quantum theory, Gabe Galanda (Round Valley Indian Tribes of California, descending from the Nomlaki and Concow Tribes), a prolific Seattle attorney fighting disenrollment cases, Tommy Miller (Colville), attorney and author of law review article “Beyond Blood Quantum: The legal and political implications of expanding tribal enrollment”, and Professor David Wilkins (Lumbee), legal scholar and co-author of “Dismembered: Native Disenrollement and the Battle for Human Rights”.Guest Bios:Charlotte Logan is Akwesasne Mohawk and a molecular biologist working in upstate new york.  Charlotte has a Masters in Molecular and Cellular Biology from Brandeis University and has spent a decade specializing in the field of small RNA and mRNA Processing. She recently made a life altering choice by stepping away from her career and enrolling in the Onondaga Language  Program, where she spent two years studying the Onandoga language. Then returned to biochemistry and molecular biology as a senior research support specialist, and now is a graduate student in linguistics.Gabe Galanda belongs to the Round Valley Indian Tribes of California, descending from the Nomlaki and Concow Tribes. As a partner at Galanda Broadman, Gabe is an attorney whose legal practice represents tribal governments, businesses and citizens often working on complex, multi-party litigation and crisis management. Gabe is a prolific writer on  tribal litigation and sovereignty and Indian civil rights issues, having been published over 100 times in national periodicals like The National Law Journal, and Business Law Today. Tommy Miller is a Citizen of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation and his Seattle law practice focuses on litigation, Indian Law, government contracts and procurement, which touch on a wide variety of issues including treaty rights.  He received his JD and bachelor’s degrees from Harvard University.  In 2014, he published in the American Indian Law Journal: “Beyond Blood Quantum: The Legal and Political Implications of Expanding Tribal Enrollment.” David E. Wilkins is a citizen of the Lumbee Nation of North Carolina and a Professor at the University of Richmond. He earned his Ph.D. in political science from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Professor Wilkins research and teaching interests include Indigenous politics and governance, federal Indian policy and law, comparative politics, and diplomacy and constitutional development. He is the author or editor of a number of books, including "Dismembered: Native Disenrollment and the Battle for Basic Human Rights.”Special thanks for the incredible episode art by Ciara Sana ( and editing and sound production by Teo ShantzSupport the show (
On this episode we tackle a huge topic: the importance and power of our Indigenous languages, and the work that's being done to revitalize and promote Native languages. It was too much to fit in with just one guest, so we collected stories from throughout Indian Country, talking to Thelma Whiskers from Southern Ute, Harry Oosahwee from Cherokee Nation, Henrietta Mann from Cheyenne Nation, Amber Heywood and Archie Cantrell from Puyallup, and Tia Averett Pocknett and Sola Santos from Mashpee Wampanoag. Every one of our nations and communities has suffered language loss due to colonial policies, but despite the statistics and very real threats to our languages, there are also so many incredible stories of hope and resurgence. We hope you'll feel inspired to use your language today and every day, even in small ways. Your ancestors will hear you. UN Declaration of 2019 as "International Year of Indigenous Languages": you to  Siobhan (Vonnie) Brown, Sola Santos, Adeline & Wesley Greendeer, Eliana Ruzzo, and Jenn Weston from Mukayuhsak Weekuw and all of the other incredible folks we talked to whose voices didn't make it into the episode, you're amazing.This episode we’re super thrilled to have music by Sicangu Lakota rapper and composer Frank Waln! We’re also as always grateful for all of the team that worked on this episode, editor Teo Shantz, PA Juanita Christine, Production by Brooke Swaney, and episode art by Ciara Sana. We’re also in the process of trying to find funding for season two. If you have any resources, grants, or funding that you think we should look into, please let us know! Remember to like, comment, share, and subscribe on iTunes!  We’re on instagram @amrpodcast, and our website is GvGeyu! Love you! Support the show (
Ep #8: Native Fashion

Ep #8: Native Fashion


All My Relations talks story with two of our favorite fashionable friends: artist extraordinaire Jamie Okuma (Lisueño and Shoshone Bannock) and scholar/fashion entrepreneur Dr. Jessica Metcalfe (Turtle Mountain Chippewa). Listen in as we venture into their journeys through the Native fashion world and what it means to them to represent for their communities through fashion and design. Jessica often says, “Our ancestors were stylish,” so what are the ways we can represent our identities through what we choose to wear? Beyond Buckskin Boutique: shop.beyondbuckskin.comJamie Okuma: Jokuma.comSupport the show (
Bonus Episode: Sacred is Sacred! +In light of recent tragedy at Notre Dame, Adrienne and Matika discuss the indigenous response from our communities from a social justice perspective, while also considering our humanity. +This is our first “bonus episode”! We thought that it might be powerful to interject indigenous perspective into the national dialogue. What do you think? Support the show (
In this episode, All My Relations explores the topic of cultural appropriation—it’s become such a buzzword, but what is it, really? Adrienne and Matika care deeply about Native representation, and talk constantly about this subject. Here, you'll have the opportunity to listen into that conversation, as we reveal our feelings about the infamous white savior photographer Edward S. Curtis, Halloween, answer listener questions, and more.  Appropriators beware. Resources: Adrienne’s blog: (300+ posts to help with the appropriation convos)“Why Tonto Matters”:’s Edward Curtis post: us a voicemail of how you say “All My Relations” in your language! the show (
Ep #6: Indigiqueer

Ep #6: Indigiqueer


We join forces with two amazing Indigenous writers and scholars who are making waves in the literary scene with their poetry, prose, and fiction. They weave words and worlds to help us see and understand queer indigenous identities and bodies, the ways that settler colonialism has disrupted and distorted our relationships, and the power of asserting voice in spaces not meant for us. We discuss their writing practice, academia, living in racialized bodies. We close  with Joshua and Billy reciting some of their work for us. Enjoy! If you love this, please subscribe, share, and consider  our Patreon. +++++++++++Joshua Whitehead is Ojibwe & Cree from the Peguis First Nation, located in Treaty 1 territory, and is Two Spirit IndigiQueer. You can find him at the University of Calgary in Treaty 7 territory, obtaining his PhD in English. Joshua is a poet and a writer, but most importantly, Joshua is a storyteller. The power of his storytelling launched him into the forefront of the literary scene.  His poetry collection, “Full Metal Indigequeer”  is indeed, as he says, “a viral song, is a round dance, is a jingle dress, is medicine.”  His debut novel, Johnny Appleseed, braids together human experience into a tight understanding of Indigeneity and queerness. +++++++++++Billy-Ray Belcourt is from the Driftpile Cree Nation and is a PhD student in the Department of English & Film Studies at the University of Alberta. As a Rhodes Scholar, Billy-Ray went to the Colonizers land to obtain his Master’s in Women’s Studies which highlighted “the role of Indigenous Women in Social Resistance Movements .” His work has been widely published and acclaimed in magazines across Canada. His debut poetry book, This Wound is A World, splits the self wide open and merges into space and place and Indian Time. His forthcoming work, NDN Coping Mechanisms, Notes from the field, is synesthesia made into polyphonic poetry, prose and digital art.Support the show (
Ep #5: Decolonizing Sex

Ep #5: Decolonizing Sex


Join us for a second discussion with Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate Dr. Kim Tallbear on All My Relations. We'll explore Kim's “life project” of critical polyamory, her journey through feminism, her processes of writing in, with, and for community, and Kim treats us with some of her poetry, the “Critical polyamorist 100s”.AMR so far has explored our relationships between community, land, food, and kin. Now we have a chance to dive into what it means to be in good relation with other humans (on a sexual and non sexual level), while maintaining and balancing our responsibilities to our other relations, and questioning a hierarchy that places human relations first. Kim is never “single,” she is always in committed relationships with human and non-human relations.Follow us!Kim's Twitter.Matika's Twitter and Instagram.Adrienne's Twitter and Instagram.If you'd like to send us a voicemail visit to be featured on our upcoming episodes!Support the show (
Can a DNA test make me Native American? As direct-to-consumer ancestry DNA tests gain popularity and narratives of “discovering” or “proving” Native American ancestry through DNA swirl through the media—what does that mean for Indigenous nations? On this episode we talk with the amazing, badass, super cool Dr. Kim Tallbear (Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate), who literally wrote the book on Native American DNA. We talk about the concept of “Native DNA,” the problems of ancestry DNA tests, challenges in these areas for Native communities moving forward, Elizabeth Warren, the politics of research in Indigenous communities, and offer potential alternatives for thinking about kinship as a marker of Native belonging rather than false promises of DNA.Kim Tallbear Bio:Dr. Kimberly Tallbear - is Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate and also descended from the Cheyenne Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma. She’s an Associate Professor in the faculty of Native Studies at the University of Alberta where she holds a Canadian Research Chair in Indigenous Peoples, Technoscience, and Environment. .In 2013 She literally wrote the book on Native American DNA, entitled: “Native American DNA: Tribal belonging and the false promise of genetic science”. Her Indigenous Science, Technology, and Society work recently turned to also address decolonial and Indigenous sexualities, specifically on decolonizing the centering of monogamy that she characterizes as emblematic of "settler sexualities." This builds on work she has been doing in a blog written under an alter ego, "The Critical Polyamorist." Through this work she founded a University of Alberta arts-based research lab and co-produces the sexy storytelling show, Tipi Confessions, sparked by the popular Austin, Texas show, Bedpost Confessions. She also is active on twitter, is a role model to many of us as an indigenous researcher, public scholar, and feminist scholar.Links and resources:Kim’s book, “Native American DNA: Tribal Belonging and the False Promise of Genetic Science”:’s Twitter:'s weekly Indigenous media podcast, Media Indigena: Summer internship for INdigenous peoples in Genomics (SING) Workshop: you need more context and understanding on the whole Elizabeth Warren thing, Adrienne and her fellow Cherokee colleagues Joseph Pierce and Rebecca Nagle made The Elizabeth Warren Syllabus: the show (
Are you truly sovereign if you can’t feed yourselves? Today we delve into a topic we can all relate to! We all got to eat! But how are we eating, or better, WHAT are we eating?  And how has colonization disrupted our relationship with our traditional foods? That is why today’s discussion on food sovereignty is so important because we all know that colonialism destroyed our food systems, sometimes on purpose and sometimes as a byproduct of other colonial policies— But separating Native peoples from the way we traditionally ate and harvested was a very effective tool of colonization.Fortunately, we are living in a time of reconnection and revitalization— and our there are many people throughout turtle island who are doing this good food sovereignty work. Listen in, as we bring in our amazing guest Valerie Segrest to discuss the  definition of food sovereignty; learn how breastfeeding supports the food sovereignty movement; and how all of us, even if it is just in tiny ways, can become food sovereignty activists. Valerie Segrest is a Native nutrition educator who specializes in local and traditional foods. As a member of the Muckleshoot Indian Tribe, she serves her community as coordinator of the Muckleshoot Food Sovereignty Projectand also works as Traditional Foods and Medicines Program Manager.In 2010, Valerie co-authored “Feeding the People, Feeding the Spirit: Revitalizing Northwest Coastal Indian Food Culture.” Valerie received a Bachelor of Science in Nutrition from Bastyr University, and a Masters Degree in Environment and Community from Antioch University. She is also a fellow for the Institute of Agriculture and Trade Policy. Valerie aims to inspire and enlighten others about the importance of a nutrient-dense diet through a culturally appropriate, common sense approach to eating.Related Resources Twitter thread of indigenous foods you can buy! Camas Decolonizing Diet project: http://decolonizingdietproject.blogspot.comThe Pueblo Food Experience: Billy Frank: Support the show (
In 2018 there are still over 2000 schools and professional sports teams with Native mascots, despite decades of activism and academic research demonstrating the harms of these images. Today Matika and Adrienne are in conversation with Amanda Blackhorse, Navajo social worker and mother, who was the lead plaintiff in the supreme court case against the Washington Redsk*ns, and Stephanie Fryberg, who is the top psychological researcher on these issues and has demonstrated through lab experiments and surveys how harmful these mascots are to Native youth and how they reinforce negative stereotypes.Guest BiosDr. Stephanie Fryberg is a member of the Tulalip Tribes, and an expert on the psychological and educational affects of social representations of race, class, and culture. She got her PhD in Psychology at Stanford University, where she is a member of the Multicultural Hall of Fame. Just last month, she was appointed as a Gerberding University Professor at the University of Washington, recognizing her exceptional research, contributions, and accomplishments in the field of American Indian Studies and Psychology. Dr. Fryberg’s research on stereotypes, race, class and psychological development led her to testify in front of the U.S. Senate Committee on Indian Affairs on the impact of racist stereotypes on Indigenous people. My favorite title of a recent paper would be hands down: “We’re honoring you dude: Myths, Mascots and American Indians.” She is also one of the hardest workers I have ever known, and one of my most influential thought leaders.Amanda Blackhorse is from Big Mountain on the Navajo reservation, and is a Dine’ a social worker, activist, and mother. She was the lead plaintiff in Blackhorse vs. Pro Football Inc, a 2012 case which sought to revoke trademark protection of the term Washington R*dsk*ns. She attended haskell and received her Bachelor’s degree in social work at the University of Kansas and her Master’s degree at Washington University in St. Louis. While her training and work history includes focuses on substance abuse treatment, health care, and adult mental health in the Native communities, she has fiercely fought against the use of Native American imagery and stereotypes as sports team mascots. After filing her case against Pro Football Inc., Amanda founded Arizona to Rally Against Native American Mascots, and later launched the website Both entities are dedicated to spreading education, organizing protests, and working towards the elimination of sports mascots based on Native American imagery. She is a badass warrior woman, and this week was standing on top of a car in Arizona protesting Native Halloween costumes.ResourcesStephanie FrybergArticle: Monuments that Romanticize ConquistadorsNPR Article: Experiencing Discrimination in AmericaTalking about invisibility & representation around the beginning: Panel Lecture: BlackhorseContact: RulinSupport the show (
Matika and Adrienne discuss their “origin” stories as Indigenous women, bloggers, and storytellers— revealing the intimacies of their friendship, the inception and goals of the All My Relations Podcast, and their relationships to feminism.Support the show (
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Good to hear more indigenous voices and stories

Aug 29th


Linda!! Love her. 🌿

Jun 5th

Lemiley Hurley

I put this out there i really love how you guys talk. I'm interested in the things your recording and posting I'm in high school I was introduced to this podcast in my Navajo language class, myself and other students loved the "can our ancestors hear us" one. That was the first we heard of we were so into it I download this app just to listen and learn. just hearing the podcasts while I'm drawing and sitting down while doing homework it's like a new book to read about. this help me push up the importance to my culture that I knew my voice in my art had to be seen and heard, I'm work on this new project of my, in my art that's for the (Bears ears national monument) I not sure what to call it but the " faded rainbow" has been on my mind. just know that I love this podcast and others to.

Oct 28th
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Christina Carden

Mahalo. Mahalo nui (Thank you. Thank you so much) for sharing your mana’o (thoughts, ideas, experiences, beliefs) in regard to language revitalization. Thank you for including Kānaka ‘Ōiwi (Native Hawaiians). As a kanaka ‘ōiwi, speaking our mother tongue in Goshute Nation here in Utah is a tremendous experience, mingling our breath with theirs. Again, mahalo!

Jul 21st
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Rose Klein

A well crafted and beautifully thoughtful podcast! Highly recommend!

Mar 25th

Morrigan Corbeau

This is an amazing podcast with such necessary conversations and perspectives! Amplify these voices and this podcast!!

Mar 21st

Cat Elliott

I've just discovered your podcast thanks to Grace Bonney at Design Sponge and it's been life changing and fascinating. Thank you, can't wait for next week.

Mar 15th
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