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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into the evolution of infrastructure investing with the leading scaled specialist firm in infrastructure.We sat down in Stonepeak’s Hudson Yards office with the firm’s Co-President Luke Taylor to discuss the inner workings of the infrastructure investing world and unpack the story of how Stonepeak’s rapid ascent has seen the firm climb to $76.3B in AUM in 14 short years.Luke brings a wealth of experience to the infrastructure investing world. He is Co-President of Stonepeak and a member of all of the firm’s investment committees. He’s been investing in infrastructure for over 20 years, joining Stonepeak from infrastructure investing pioneer Macquarie Capital.Luke and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion about infrastructure investing and why it’s becoming an increasingly important part of the private capital ecosystem. We covered:How Luke went from growing up on a sheep farm to investing in infrastructure in New York.What Macquarie taught him about how to approach infrastructure investing.Why he took the entrepreneurial leap to build Stonepeak and join Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder Mike Dorrell from the firm’s earliest days.Why infrastructure investing is more than toll roads, airports, and bridges.How there are elements of a private equity approach to investing in, building, and operating infrastructure assets.Where infrastructure fits in an investors’ portfolio.Why individual investors should consider exposure to infrastructure assets.Has infrastructure proved itself through an inflation cycle?Why scale matters in infrastructure investing.How Stonepeak identified investing in data centers early on and well before the data center boom began.What type of demeanor and mindset makes for a successful infrastructure investor.Thanks Luke for coming on the show to share your expertise, wisdom, and passion for infrastructure investing.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme01:55 Episode Overview: Infrastructure Investing02:04 Guest Introduction: Luke Taylor02:45 Luke Taylor's Background and Journey04:49 Early Days at Macquarie07:19 Transition to Stonepeak08:04 Building Stonepeak 10:13 Value Creation in Infrastructure11:59 Mindset of an Infrastructure Investor13:08 Balancing Long-Term and Agile Thinking15:42 Key Drivers of Value Creation16:10 Underwriting and Risk Management18:00 Operational Intensity and Asset Utilization21:51 Network Effects in Infrastructure23:19 Infrastructure as a Defensive Investment26:13 Portfolio Construction and Infrastructure26:39 Private Infrastructure and Yield Benefits27:29 Productizing Infrastructure Investments27:41 Equity, Credit, and Real Estate Strategies29:23 Thematic and Opportunistic Investing29:53 Data Centers and Early Investments30:06 Identifying Investment Opportunities30:14 Evolution of Data Centers30:58 Interconnection Hubs and Carrier Hotels31:32 AI Boom and Data Centers33:22 Investing in AI Through Infrastructure34:42 Underwriting AI Thematics35:04 Capital Needs in Data Centers35:32 Downside Protection in AI Investments36:49 Navigating Increased Capital in Infrastructure37:35 Durability of Cash Flow in Infrastructure38:40 Scaling Stonepeak's Infrastructure Investments39:18 Diversification in Infrastructure Investments41:47 Developing an Edge in Origination42:36 Structural Elements in Deal Sourcing42:57 Competition and Market Structure43:26 New Entrants in Infrastructure43:44 Building New Assets in Infrastructure43:54 Exits and Evergreen Funds46:27 Private Wealth and Infrastructure51:25 Challenges in Starting a Wealth Business51:51 Deal Flow and Product Construction53:50 Volatile Markets and Opportunities54:20 Interest Rate Risks in Infrastructure55:18 Favorite Infrastructure Opportunities57:01 Closing Thoughts and Full CircleEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into how operations and streamlining technology processes can be turned into a strategic advantage.We sat down with Arcesium’s MD and Head of Client and Partner Development David Nable to discuss how technology is impacting how funds manage their processes, operations, and data.David was an early employee at Arcesium, helping the firm scale and working with many of the industry’s largest asset managers across the lifecycle of an investment. David joined Arcesium after a career in fund services and fund administration that spanned senior roles at Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and BNP Paribas Securities Services.David and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:How David’s background in prime brokerage and fund admin helped him approach the technology problems for asset managers.How asset managers should approach where and how technology can be a strategic advantage.What does it mean to be a tech-forward asset manager?How does the growth of evergreen funds impact how firms manage their data and serve investors?What still needs to be built next to continue to improve private markets market infrastructure.Thanks David for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your expertise and wisdom on private markets technology and post-investment processes.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:52 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast02:04 Guest Introduction: David Nable03:46 David's Career Beginnings04:15 Parallels Between Running and Finance05:19 Observing Industry Trends06:45 Evolution of Private Markets08:45 Impact of Technology on Investment09:40 Challenges in Scaling Investments11:20 Data-Driven Investment Strategies12:50 Technological Advancements in Finance13:52 Importance of Foundational Data17:31 Data Silos and Harmonization18:14 Case Study: Investor Relations21:25 Data-First Approach Benefits21:51 Timing for System Architecture23:21 Inflection Points for Managers23:37 Logical Breakpoints in Strategy23:44 New Strategies and Geographies23:47 Adapting to New Asset Classes23:50 Distribution Channels and Partnerships23:56 Preparing for Future Growth24:00 Publicly Traded Private Markets24:14 Tackling Technological Challenges24:24 Philosophies on Illiquidity24:25 Conclusion and Future Outlook24:29 Investing in Scalable Distribution Channels25:12 Architecting Technology Systems for Business Growth25:44 Understanding Data in Different Business Models27:10 Strategic Role of Technology in Investment Firms29:35 The Paradox of Data in Decision Making30:49 Competitive Advantage Through Faster Information31:45 Impact of AI and Technology on Firm Sizes32:31 Challenges for Mid-Sized Firms33:13 Technology as an Enabler for Niche Specialists34:03 Advice for Mid-Sized Firms on Technology Implementation35:10 Focus on Big Technology Investments35:29 Point Solutions vs. Platforms in Private Markets38:52 Cost of Technology Solutions39:06 Integration Challenges with Multiple Systems40:59 Arcesium's Technology Platforms43:18 Simplifying Complex Investments46:13 Future of Software Innovation in Private Markets46:39 AI as a Game Changer in Private Markets47:34 Efficiency Gains Through AI48:05 Actionable Advice on Using AI48:15 Caution Against Vibe Coding48:58 Importance of Proper Technologists49:23 Timing of Technology Implementation49:29 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into what the future of fund administration could look like with a tech-forward approach and the application of AI.We sat down with Juniper Square CEO and Co-Founder Alex Robinson to discuss how and why they’ve built a digital first fund administrator for private markets, starting with real estate and since expanding into other asset classes.Fresh off of a $130M Series D fundraise led by Ribbit Capital, Juniper Square has expanded globally, into fund administration through its acquisition of Forstone, and has launched JunieAI to bring AI to fund administration.Alex and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:Why Alex started Juniper Square and how his two entrepreneurial endeavors has informed how he’s built the firm.The problem Alex set out to solve by building Juniper Square.After dealing with FedEx’s to make investments, how he set out to build an investor experience that was digital.How AI will impact fund admin.Why every GP should have an AI agent according to Alex.Why Juniper Square decided to move from a technology firm to add fund administration capabilities in house.Does AI benefit larger firms or smaller firms more?Thanks Alex for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your expertise and wisdom on fund administration and AI.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:03 Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management01:38 Welcoming Alex to the Podcast01:59 Alex's Journey to Founding Juniper Square02:10 Juniper Square's Mission and Services02:38 The Early Days and Challenges03:41 The Digital Transformation of Private Markets04:15 Focusing on the GP Experience04:30 Balancing GP and LP Needs04:54 The Naivete Advantage05:12 Overcoming Industry Challenges06:58 Real Estate: The Starting Point08:41 The Evolution of Juniper Square09:38 Technology Adoption in Private Markets17:21 The Importance of Customer Feedback18:09 The Vision for Market Efficiency20:10 Expanding Across Asset Classes21:09 The Role of Personal Relationships22:49 Becoming a Full-Stack Service Provider24:31 The Complexity of Fund Administration28:55 The Future with AI29:21 Challenges of Implementing AI30:31 The High Cost of Mistakes31:18 AI's Impact on Employee Productivity31:52 Challenges of Adopting AI in the Workplace32:20 Launching JunieAI32:59 Understanding AI Models33:44 Customizing AI for Reporting34:44 Mastering Data for AI35:13 AI in Software Development35:59 Leveraging AI at Juniper Square36:19 Ensuring Accuracy and Context in AI Models37:30 AI's Limitations in Financial Insights37:52 Future Improvements in AI Models38:36 Feeding AI the Right Context39:11 Connecting AI to Tools and Workflows40:19 Automating Fund Administration43:39 AI's Role in Competitive Advantage44:24 AI's Impact on Different Asset Classes46:16 Best Practices for GPS Using AI47:02 AI's Benefits for Large vs. Small Firms48:58 Integrating AI Across Business Functions51:39 Balancing AI with Human Relationships54:33 Future Vision for Private Markets55:02 AI Agents in GP Work56:07 Transforming GP-LP Matchmaking01:00:50 Investment Opportunities in AI and Real Estate Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.What happens when two podcasters walk into a room? They talk.Today’s podcast turns the tables on one of the industry’s leading podcasters and content creators to have him share his story and experience as an allocator and content creator. We sat down with Ted Seides, the Founder of industry-leading podcast Capital Allocators and former President and Co-CIO of Protégé Partners and an asset allocator at the Yale Endowment.Ted has had a tremendous career at the intersection of asset allocation and content, so it was fascinating to hear his perspectives on the state of the industry and how it’s evolving from someone who talks with many of the industry’s leading minds through his podcast, Capital Allocators.Ted and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:Stories and lessons learned from working with David Swensen at the Yale Endowment.What the wealth channel can learn from institutional investors.What Ted looked for in hedge funds and alternative asset managers when doing manager due diligence.Ted’s bet with Buffett on hedge funds and why he’s now doing a bet on PE versus public equities.How alternative asset managers are evolving and the pros and cons of evergreen structures.Why and how Ted started Capital Allocators and why content is so critical to learning asset management and understanding how firms operate.Capital Allocators is one of my favorite podcast listens and Ted always delivers with high-quality and thoughtful content so it was an honor to have him on the show.Thanks Ted for sharing your expertise and wisdom on asset allocation and content and for the service you provide to everyone in the industry through education and the creation of such high-quality content for us to consume.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square00:38 Juniper Square's AI Capabilities01:40 Guest Introduction: Ted Seides04:03 Lessons from Yale Endowment04:46 David Swensen's Investment Principles05:51 Evolution of the Endowment Model05:58 Wealth Channel vs. Institutional Investors08:09 Access to Top Managers11:16 Alpha in Private Markets12:32 Ted's Bet with Buffett13:10 Private Equity vs. Public Equities17:16 Private Equity Diversification18:45 Hedge Fund Industry Lessons20:07 Private Equity Fee Structures24:03 Talent Migration in Private Markets26:47 Evaluating Investment Culture27:15 Investment Philosophy and Strategy28:26 Ted's Approach to Manager Evaluation29:46 Impact of AI on Diligence Processes30:20 Defining Investment Edge30:33 Behavioral and Analytical Edge31:01 Informational and Technical Edge31:27 Evaluating Investment Managers31:37 Impactful Investment Decisions31:52 Mistakes and Learning32:53 The Hardest Time to Invest34:14 Behavioral Biases in Investing34:51 Decision-Making Processes36:28 The Role of AI in Investing38:07 Content and Investment Decisions39:25 Starting Capital Allocators41:00 Learning from Podcasting43:40 Building a Business from a Podcast45:26 The Value of Relationships in Investing47:06 Content Strategy for Managers49:44 Effective Content Modalities50:43 Direct Communication vs. Algorithms51:13 Brand vs. Direct Sales52:35 Insights from Podcast Conversations54:23 Favorite Private Market Investments56:05 AI and Investment Perspectives57:37 Partnering with AI Experts58:12 The Importance of People in Investing Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is about mining for investment success in enterprise software by going “an inch wide and a mile deep” with someone who is one of the industry’s most prolific private equity technology investors.We sat down with Nic Humphries in Hg’s London office. Nic is the Senior Partner and Executive Chairman of Hg and Head of the firm’s Saturn fund.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused on mission-critical enterprise software. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Nic is responsible for Hg’s strategy, management, and governance. On the investing side, Nic focuses on larger software investments that provide daily-use mission critical applications for accountants, tax / compliance professionals, and designers / engineers / scientists. He has brought his electrical engineering background to bear to go a “mile deep” into a category where Hg has become an unquestioned market leader.Nic balances being both a detail-oriented specialist with a vision for both the enterprise software industry and Hg as a firm. We had a fascinating discussion about enterprise software investing, how to create European software giants, applying AI to make companies more efficient, and much more.We covered:The origin story of Hg.How Hg grew into one of the industry’s leading software focused private equity firms.How an engineering mindset has helped Nic become a leading investor.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Why enterprise software investing can be considered a low volatility investment strategy and how Hg has delivered consistent returns to investors.How to effectively manage exits and DPI.Why Europe, why now?How AI could impact technology and services businesses.Thanks Nic for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about enterprise software and private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square01:40 Introducing Nic Humphries01:56 Hg's Investment Strategy04:03 Nic's Background and Career Journey04:46 Engineering Mindset in Investing05:14 Long-Term Business Thinking05:58 Hg's Focus on Accounting Software06:45 Growth Drivers in SMB Market09:05 Impact of AI on Enterprise Software09:34 Platform Shifts in Technology11:10 Adapting to AI in Business12:15 Mission Critical Software14:02 Challenges of AI Integration14:58 Embedding Products and Services17:13 Organic Growth vs. Acquisitions20:51 Geographical Expansion Strategies21:59 European vs. North American Markets23:30 Management Teams and Expansion24:32 Jurisdictional Challenges in Europe25:05 Hg's Investment Philosophy25:50 Mission Critical Software in Europe36:22 Hg's Consistent Investment Returns38:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts40:13 Understanding Recurring Revenues40:59 The Importance of Discipline in Investing41:48 Learning from Past Experiences43:30 Maintaining Excitement and Focus45:26 The Role of Realization Committees46:44 Continuous Improvement Culture47:42 The Importance of Cash Returns48:51 Exit Strategies and Realization Committees50:32 Re-underwriting Investments52:40 AI's Impact on Software Development54:17 The Rule of 40 and AI54:38 Investing in AI: Startups vs. Established Businesses55:59 Hg's Growth Strategy58:56 Specialization in B2B Back Office Software01:01:35 Fund Structure and Management01:03:27 Expanding into the Wealth Channel01:03:48 Hg Capital Trust and Fusion Fund01:05:27 Communicating with a Broader Audience01:06:39 The Importance of Brand in Wealth Management01:07:32 Connecting Private Markets to Everyday Life01:09:36 The Prevalence of Private Companies01:11:09 Aligning Interests with Investors01:12:19 Investment Decisions and Long-term Growth01:14:21 Future Growth Opportunities for Hg01:16:38 The Role of AI in Future Investments Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.DisclaimerThe views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any affiliated organization.Any references to past performance, including IRR or MOIC figures, are presented on a gross basis and do not reflect the deduction of fees, expenses, or carried interest. 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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s conversation brings us beachside, featuring a live podcast from Soho Beach House in Miami with EQT Partner, Head of Private Wealth Americas Peter Aliprantis.With the backdrop of the beach behind us and the wealth community in the audience, Peter and I discussed the nuances of the wealth channel and how Peter’s experience working with wealth is brought to bear as he brings EQT’s brand and capabilities to the Americas wealth channel.Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the private wealth solutions world, garnering over 25 years of experience in the space. Prior to joining EQT, Peter spent 12 years at TPG Angelo Gordon as a Managing Director, where he focused on new business development and intermediary distribution.Peter and I had a fascinating, lively, and thought-provoking conversation which then turned into an intellectually rich dinner discussion with the guests. Listen in — we hope you enjoy.You can also read a recent AGM Op-Ed by Peter here. Many of the themes that Peter discussed in our conversation, particularly around evergreen funds and why model portfolios are the next big innovation in private markets, were covered in his Op-Ed.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:04 Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management01:38 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream01:43 Live from Soho Beach House, Miami with EQT’s Peter Aliprantis02:43 Navigating Current Markets02:58 Volatility in Public Markets04:53 Global Investment Trends05:16 Investor Behavior and Global Markets05:32 Private Markets in Europe and Asia06:43 Investment Opportunities in Asia07:27 Private Markets Outperforming in Europe07:37 Wealth Channel Conversations08:18 EQT's Global Footprint08:57 Mega Trends in Global Investment09:29 Data Centers and Energy Needs11:17 Natural Gas and Carbon Capture11:57 Nuclear Energy and Modular Reactors12:43 Investment Scale and Origination13:06 Evergreen Structures in Private Markets16:28 Opco Structures Explained17:15 Evergreen Structures and Investor Access17:54 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Structures21:32 Model Portfolios in Wealth Channel22:29 Manager Selection and Performance23:34 Client Servicing and Education27:43 Early Days in Wealth Channel Allocation28:39 Benefits and Limitations of Evergreen Structures29:11 Quick Fire Questions29:26 Exciting Investment Strategies30:16 Risks in Private Markets31:12 Using Private Markets in Portfolios32:35 Next Big Innovation: Model Portfolios32:46 Intersection of Public and Private Markets33:22 Moving Beyond the 60/40 PortfolioEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast is with an elite performer on and off the field who has gone from protecting quarterbacks to protecting families’ wealth.We sit down with former NFL and USC star Winston Justice, whose entrepreneurial spirit that was stoked while he was still playing in the NFL has led to a successful and impactful career in wealth management. He was recently named CEO at SageSpring Private Wealth, a $7B independent wealth management firm, as they look to grow organically and inorganically and expand their offerings in private markets for their clients.A former NFL offensive lineman, Winston played for the Philadelphia Eagles, Indianapolis Colts, and Denver Broncos from 2006 to 2015. He also co-founded an early stage investment vehicle, MJC Capital, and Elixr, a gourmet café and coffee roastery, while he was playing. He also won 2010 Walter Payton Philadelphia Man of the Year Award for his community service.He transitioned into financial services and wealth management post-career, starting at Wells Fargo Securities, where he specialized in institutional and family office advisory. He then was a portfolio manager at PIA’s Alternative Investment Group, and then an investment Manager at AllianceBernstein.Winston and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:The parallels between sports and finance.How Winston navigated the transition from professional athlete to a finance professional.What stoked his entrepreneurial spirit.Why wealth management is so critical to people’s lives. Why culture fit is so important when integrating advisors into wealth management platforms through acquisition.How private markets can add to an advisor’s practice.Thanks Winston for coming on the show to share your story, wisdom, and expertise.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:04 Our Sponsor, Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management00:30 Empowering GPS with Juniper Square00:38 Juniper Square's AI Innovation00:51 Scaling Your Business with Juniper Square01:37 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast01:40 Introducing Winston Justice03:35 Winston's Background and Early Life03:49 College Years and Initial Business Ventures03:59 Realization and Transition to Finance04:10 Starting a VC Fund and Coffee Shops04:31 Transitioning from NFL to Finance05:04 Winston's Career at Wells Fargo and Beyond05:17 Immersing in Wealth Management07:01 The Sacredness of Financial Management07:50 Importance of Wealth Management08:04 Private Markets in Wealth Management08:19 Early Lessons in Wealth Management09:10 Transferring Values and Knowledge09:32 Managing Assets Beyond Numbers10:19 Combining Finance and Mission12:11 Mentoring Advisors at SageSpring12:43 Skill Sets for SageSpring Advisors12:51 Client Focus and Community Leadership14:01 Balancing Client Delivery and Business Growth14:56 Impact of Growing AUM16:10 Testing Advisors' Commitment16:55 Business Constructs in Wealth Management17:43 Division of Labor in Wealth Management18:52 SageSpring's Unique Approach19:53 Client Understanding of Fiduciary Role20:41 Trust in Financial Services21:17 Sophistication in Choosing Investment Partners21:57 Role of Relationship in Financial Services22:30 Evaluating Investment Opportunities23:44 Partnership with Dynasty Financial24:43 Customizing Investment Solutions26:44 Educating Wealth Managers on Private Markets27:00 Benefits of Alternatives in Portfolios30:48 Effective Storytelling in Investments32:13 Future of Wealth Management Industry33:08 Client and Advisor Service in Wealth Management34:55 Favorite Private Markets Investment37:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Future Proof, which holds one of the industry’s largest wealth conferences, invited me to hold a live podcast earlier this year with Blue Owl Co-President and Global Head of Real Assets Marc Zahr. Marc is a pioneer in the real estate space, building Blue Owl into a market leader in the triple net lease strategy, a commercial real estate investment strategy that is becoming increasingly popular for real estate investors, tenants (think large corporates like Amazon, Walgreens, Dollar General), and investors alike.Blue Owl’s Real Assets business has over $67.1B AUM, owning over 5,600 assets and partnering with over 800 tenants. Marc founded Oak Street, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl, in 2009 with $17M AUM. Listening to Marc talk about the evolution of his career, building Oak Street, and running Blue Owl’s Real Assets platform, it’s no surprise to see why Marc and the firm have had success. His “myopic focus … perfecting his craft,” as he discussed in our conversation, his clarity of vision, and his ability to so clearly articulate his investment strategy and market opportunity have led to tremendous success for Oak Street, and now, Blue Owl.Marc and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion that covered everything from the evolution of his firm, how and why he sold Oak Street to Blue Owl, the market opportunity in triple net lease real estate investing, why data center investing is a large market opportunity, how to build a high-performing investment culture, and much more.We discussed:The story of how Marc built Oak Street from a $17M real estate investment firm and grew it into Blue Owl’s $67B AUM Real Assets platform.Breaking down the triple net lease real estate investment strategy.Why the industry “isn’t even in the first inning” in the $20T addressable market in triple net lease real estate investing.Why data centers are a “once in a generation opportunity” due to capex supply / demand imbalance.How a bigger platform can help an asset manager scale its business.Why an evergreen structure can make sense and the story of how Blue Owl did so well with its triple net lease product on a private wealth platform that the private bank created their own product.The hardest part of educating the wealth channel on real estate and evergreen structures.Why private wealth is the biggest opportunity in the future. The advice Marc would give to someone trying to build the next great asset manager.Thanks Marc for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and thoughtful and nuanced perspectives on private markets and real estate. 

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.Martina Sanow is a Partner and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel. We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.We covered:Hg’s evolution as a firm.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.Why Europe, why now?Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor01:55 Welcome to the Podcast01:58 Introducing Martina Sanow04:36 Martina's Background and Experience05:10 Hg's Specialization in Software05:57 Building a Team and Culture06:54 Importance of Cognitive Diversity07:26 Building a Diverse Team09:28 Innovating in Wealth Business10:14 Hg's Strategic Mindset11:51 Hg's Entrepreneurial Journey12:00 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Culture13:10 Specialization in B2B Software14:47 Focus on DPI and Cash Back16:17 Criteria for A-Quality Businesses16:58 Investing in Mission Critical Software18:11 Visma Case Study19:23 Challenges and Opportunities in Europe33:13 Evergreen Structures: Impact on Investment Teams33:44 Balancing Capital Raising and Deal Flow34:13 Investment Strategies and Allocation34:54 Managing Subscriptions and Demand35:53 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand36:06 Privately Owned Firm Benefits36:37 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structures37:52 Long-Term Company Partnerships39:11 Liquidity Management Challenges39:55 Investor Strategies for Evergreen Funds41:40 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Funds42:48 Evolution of Institutional Mindset43:26 Retail vs. Wealth Investors44:01 Listed Trust and Wealth Business Insights45:54 Building the Wealth Business47:29 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital48:54 Innovation in Wealth Management49:28 Partnerships and Holistic Solutions50:58 Future of Wealth Management Products52:44 Brand Building and Education55:00 Software as a Core Investment56:19 Community and Founder Investments59:28 Value Creation and Network Benefits01:00:15 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions01:01:36 Concluding Thoughts and Favorite InvestmentsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s conversation dives into the current state of private markets through the lens of one of the leading GP stakes firms in the industry.We sat down with Partner and Global Co-Head of the Petershill Group at Goldman Sachs Robert Hamilton Kelly. Petershill takes minority equity stakes in established and newly-established alternative asset managers. Across its different investment vehicles, Petershill participates in the fee income from over 200 underlying funds from alternative asset management firms that are diversified across asset class, investment strategy, and investment lifecycle.Petershill’s Partner firms have well in excess of $340B in aggregate AUM and they’ve partnered with a number of the top firms and some of the industry's most recognizable names in the middle market and upper end of the market, including Clearlake, Francisco Partners, Permira, Accel-KKR, General Catalyst, Kayne Anderson Real Estate, Kennedy Lewis, and more.Rob and I had a fascinating conversation on GP stakes and the evolution of alternative asset management. We discussed:The what, why, and how of GP stakes.The benefits and drawbacks of GP stakes investing for GPs and LPs.What makes a great GP.The question of liquidity in GP stakes.Why Petershill has generally focused on middle-market alternative asset managers.How private markets will continue to evolve and the growing importance of the wealth channel in the evolution of asset management.Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and GP stakes. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme02:06 Guest Introduction: Robert Hamilton Kelly03:32 Rob's Boat Racing Experience03:45 Parallels Between Boat Racing and Private Markets04:57 Current State of Private Markets05:14 Impact of Policy Changes on Private Markets06:53 Growth of the Private Markets Industry07:09 Early Days of Petershill07:26 Goldman's Role in Alternative Asset Management09:26 Valuing GP Stakes and Alternative Asset Managers10:01 Insights on Alternative Asset Managers12:36 Valuing GP Stakes13:22 Data-Driven Investment Strategies15:34 Management Fees and Performance Fees16:28 Growth and Evolution of Firms23:16 Strategic Imperatives for Growth26:15 Managerial Skills and Industry Dynamics30:55 Commercialization in Platform Management31:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Capital Raising31:53 Industry Consolidation Predictions32:29 Growth and Consolidation in Private Markets33:31 The Role of Mid-Market Firms34:15 GP Stakes and Wealth Channel Access36:12 Goldman's Unique Platform and Services37:57 The Importance of Strategic Advice39:39 Common Challenges for GPs40:33 Evolving LP and GP Stakes Dynamics40:44 Why LPs Invest in GP Stakes42:00 Income Generation and Capital Growth42:49 Diversification in GP Stakes43:05 Private Markets Exposure44:01 Entry Points into Private Markets45:07 Long-Term Exposure and Portfolio Construction47:00 Investing in Private Credit48:10 Evaluating GP Stakes Investments49:38 Data and Performance in GP Stakes52:04 Growth Path of Private Markets52:23 Valuing Alternative Asset Managers55:41 Liquidity in GP Stakes57:09 Structural Changes in GP Stakes57:35 The Evolution of Private Markets58:11 Future of Venture and Growth Sectors58:56 Private Credit Products and Market Share59:29 Maturation of Private Markets59:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome to the 17th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to dive into the most pressing trends at the intersection of private markets and wealth management —and unpack how wealth management firms are utilizing private markets to build out or enhance their practice.In this episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, iCapital Managing Partner and Co-Head of iCapital Solutions, Steve Houston, and I are joined by Eric Harrison, Founding Partner of IEQ Capital.IEQ, managing close to $40B in AUM, has been an innovator from the start. Private markets — and a customized approach to investing in private markets — are a core part of the IEQ offering — and they’ve differentiated the firm as a result.Eric and Steve shared a number of thought-provoking perspectives on wealth management and how advisors and clients can approach allocating to private markets as part of a holistic asset allocation framework.Thanks Eric and Steve for a great episode … looking forward to the next Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:24 Experiences in Private Banking01:28 Independent Advisors and Private Markets01:46 IEQ Capital's Approach to Private Markets03:33 Scaling and Research in Alternative Investments05:48 Client Experience and Customization07:35 Technology and Tax Strategy10:46 Innovative Ideas in Private Markets13:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who is running the long race — in investing and in running.We sit down with prolific long distance runner, Blue Owl Capital’s Ivan Zinn, who has been a pioneer in alternative credit and asset-based finance.Ivan has had a long career in private credit. He started at DLJ before joining Leonard Green & Partners and Highbridge Capital. He then joined HBK before founding pioneering private credit firm Atalaya Capital Management, where he was also the CIO. Ivan and team grew Atalaya to over $10B in AUM from 2006 to 2024 before being acquired by Blue Owl Capital for $450M (and $800M with earnouts).As part of the transaction, Ivan became Managing Director at Blue Owl and is the Head of Alternative Credit, where the firm is now expanding its footprint due to Atalaya’s expertise. Ivan is as prolific outside of the office as he is in it — he is a long distance runner, running 100 mile races, and was a NCAA All-American tennis player, which comes as no surprise given the discipline, focus and expertise required to excel at the activities he’s done throughout his career in work and sport. He’s also a Board member of the USTA Foundation.Ivan and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private credit and the growth of asset-based finance. We discussed:How and why ABF has grown within the private credit ecosystem.ABF’s market structure and a “trip down main street.”The potential size of the ABF market.Why moving assets off bank balance sheets can help the financial system.Why private credit is a data rich asset.Where ABF fits in a portfolio.Why consumer credit is potentially misunderstood within private credit.Thanks Ivan for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on private credit and ABF. Good luck to anyone keeping up with you on a long run though!You can also see a recent Q&A with Ivan about private credit and ABF on AGM here.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus01:57 Introducing Ivan Zinn03:49 Parallels Between Running and Business05:32 Early Days of Private Credit06:52 Post-GFC Changes in Private Credit07:31 Evolution of Atalaya's Business Model08:21 Growth of Asset-Based Finance09:38 FinTech's Role in Private Credit11:09 Importance of Stable Capital Sources21:09 Concentration Risks in Private Credit22:27 Defining Asset-Based Finance (ABF)22:53 Different Flavors of ABF27:43 Investor Exposure and Risk in Private Credit29:46 Direct Lending vs. Public Credit36:02 Consumer Credit and Perceived Risks37:36 Debunking the Cyclical Perception of Credit Risk38:22 The Utility of Credit Cards During Financial Crises38:44 The Resilience of ABS and Diversified Portfolios39:07 The Role of Data Science in Credit Analysis39:32 Surviving the GFC: A Benchmark for Credit Pools39:53 Diversification in ABF and Private Credit40:48 Selective Approach to Consumer Credit41:36 The Importance of Manager Selection in Credit Investing42:11 Private Market Transactions and Large Announcements42:40 The Journey from Atalaya to Blue Owl43:25 Challenges in Institutional Fundraising and Capital Formation44:20 The Need for Diverse Capital Sources45:43 Integration and Cultural Fit with Blue Owl46:16 The Role of Data Science and Innovation in Credit50:22 The Wealth Channel and Private Credit50:50 Private Credit as a Fixed Income Replacement52:34 Transparency and Market Structure in Private Credit55:55 Educating Investors on Private Credit57:48 The Evolution and Adoption of ABF01:00:15 The Growth of Private Credit Market01:01:28 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Credit01:03:45 The Importance of Scale in Credit Investing01:04:28 Vertical Integration in Financing01:05:26 Relentless Forward Progress in Credit Investing01:06:31 Memorable Investments and Risk-Reward Balance Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with the CIO of an insurance company responsible for more than $300B in assets and a major focus on private markets.Lincoln Financial EVP and CIO Jayson Bronchetti and I sat down recently at Lincon Financial’s headquarters in Radnor, Pennsylvania to discuss the increasing involvement of insurance companies in private markets.Jayson, who is a member of Lincoln Financial’s Senior Management Committee and serves as the primary investment officer to Lincoln’s Board of Directors on all investment-related matters, is responsible for more than $300B in assets across the general account portfolio and the separate account mutual fund complex. He’s also chairman of the board of directors of the Lincoln Variable Insurance Product Trust family of over 100 mutual funds. He's also on the board of the Lincoln Financial Foundation.Fresh off recent partnerships with Bain Capital and Partners Group on private markets investment products and Bain Capital taking a stake in Lincoln’s business, Jayson and I had a fascinating conversation about how insurance companies can approach private markets and how they can build unique and differentiated partnerships with asset managers.We discussed:The evolving role of insurance companies as LPs in private markets.Why asset and liability matching is a critical framework to allocating to private markets.How the general account of an insurance company creates interesting opportunities for strategic relationships and partnerships with alternative asset managers.The benefit of having a business that works with financial advisors and individuals.The importance of educating wholesalers about private markets – and why insurance wholesalers might have an advantage in educating advisors and clients about private markets products and strategies.Thanks Jayson for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about private markets and insurance.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:40 Introduction to Jayson Bronchetti02:20 Sponsor Message: Ultimus Fund Solutions03:37 Welcome to the Podcast04:03 Jayson's Background in Private Markets04:57 Evolution of Insurance Companies in Private Markets06:37 Symbiotic Relationship Between GPs and Insurers08:40 Understanding Liquidity and Illiquidity11:19 Diligencing Private Markets Managers13:25 Balancing Scale and Performance14:09 Boots on the Ground: Sourcing Edge14:42 Evolution of Alternative Asset Managers14:53 Lincoln's Unique Position in the Market19:32 Strategic Partnerships with Bain and Partners Group20:03 The Value of Distribution Relationships22:14 The Democratization of Alternative Investments22:49 The Intersection of Private Markets, Wealth, and Insurance23:10 Approaching Private Markets with the General Account24:18 Launching Strategies with Bain and Partners Group24:50 Incubating New Strategies for Retail Consumers25:16 Building a Customized Investment Strategy25:45 Designing Purposeful Investment Funds26:00 Ensuring Accessibility and Proper Wrappers26:08 Liquidity and Product Matching26:15 Seeding Strategies with the General Account26:58 One Lincoln Approach27:12 Finding Opportunities in the Seams27:46 Balancing General Account and Distribution Needs28:07 Product Innovation in the Wealth Channel28:53 Healthy Tension in Product Design31:51 Importance of Asset Liability Management33:05 Educating the Distribution Team34:47 Training Modules for Wholesalers36:28 Boots on the Ground: The Power of Relationships37:45 Simplifying Complex Products40:44 Democratizing Alternative Investments41:10 Straddling Institutional and Individual Mindsets41:35 Integrating Private Markets into Retirement Products43:13 Future of Private Markets in Retirement Portfolios43:57 Product Innovation and Technology45:15 Private Markets in Insurance Products47:16 Focus on Private Credit49:38 Risks in Private Credit50:29 Excitement for the Future of Private Markets51:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Disclosure from Lincoln Financial Registration statements for each of the evergreen funds have been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available from the EDGAR database on the SEC's website (www.sec.gov). The information in the registration statements is not complete and may be changed. The securities of neither fund may be sold until its registration statement is effective. An investor should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of each fund carefully before investing. This and other information about each fund will be contained in the fund's final prospectus, which investors should read carefully when available from t...

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode digs into how the CIO of a growing multi-billion dollar wealth management firm thinks about customization and differentiation by building out private markets capabilities.We sat down with John McArthur, Senior Partner and CIO at $3.6B AUM Krilogy. Founded in 2009, Krilogy provides comprehensive financial planning and investment management services to HNW individuals, families, and business owners.Krilogy is charting a growth path — and to chart a growth path, John and his team are thinking about how they can thoughtfully grow their business.With John at the helm as CIO, they have been strategic with their approach to private markets and have increasingly focused on ways that they can create customized and differentiated solutions for their clients.John took 11 years of experience in wealth management and financial planning at A.G. Edwards & Sons and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney to Krilogy, where he joined his former University of Missouri college football teammate, Kent Skornia, to help quarterback Krilogy and their clients to financial success.John is thoughtful in his approach to private markets and how to provide solutions to their clients. We had a fascinating discussion about how wealth management is evolving and how private markets are critical to growing a wealth management practice. We discussed:How John and team have grown and scaled an independent wealth management firm.How John approaches private markets — and how that approach has evolved as they work with clients of greater size.How to balance customization and differentiation with scale.How can asset managers effectively educate and provide solutions to the wealth channel?What’s still missing from private markets solutions for the wealth channel?His views on product innovation, including evergreen funds.Advice John would give to wealth advisors looking to invest in private markets.Thanks John for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on wealth management and private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:54 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream02:06 Introducing John McArthur03:51 John's Journey into Wealth Management04:23 The Role of Sports in John's Career05:47 Lessons from Big Wealth Management Firms06:21 Krilogy's Growth and Strategy07:25 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management07:36 Private Markets and Customization08:04 Growth Strategies and Quality Control09:29 Client Service and Organic Growth11:26 Differentiating Wealth Management Offerings12:23 Importance of Private Markets13:14 Creating Customized Solutions14:53 Educating Advisors on Private Markets15:54 Volatility and Market Changes17:04 Private Markets in a New Economic Environment17:24 Building a Diverse Private Fund19:50 Client Understanding of Private Markets20:25 Educating Advisors and Clients22:15 Behavioral Bias in Investing23:42 Long-Term Investing Mindset24:08 Compounding and Diversification24:41 Challenges in Advisor Education25:46 Effective Education Strategies27:01 The Role of Storytelling in Education27:22 Future of Education in Wealth Management27:35 Sourcing and Access in Private Markets28:46 Networking and Building Trust29:26 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management30:34 Combining Big Brands and Niche Funds31:47 The Importance of Being in the Game32:13 Advice for Wealth Managers32:24 Evergreen Fund Structures33:16 Navigating the Evergreen Environment34:29 Portfolio Construction in Private Markets35:25 Operational Benefits of Evergreen Funds36:05 Model Portfolios in Wealth Management36:53 Favorite and Contrarian Investment Ideas38:49 Real Estate Market Opportunities39:09 Large vs. Niche Real Estate Managers39:52 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsDisclosure from KrilogyInvestments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Be sure to first consult with a qualified financial advisor and/or tax professional before implementing any strategy discussed herein.Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with a private equity pioneer who has seen the industry evolve in the forty plus years he’s spent in private markets.We sat down with Steve Klinsky, the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of New Mountain Capital, which he started in 1999, and has grown to over $55B AUM with an investment platform that spans strategies across Private Equity, Credit, and Net Lease Real Estate.Steve was the Co-Founder of the Leverage Buyout Group at Goldman Sachs from 1981-1984, where he helped execute over $3B of transactions for Goldman and its clients. He then joined Forstmann Little and Co. as an Associate Partner and General Partner, helping to oversee seven private equity and debt partnerships totaling over $10B in capital.He has since built New Mountain Capital into a leading alternative asset manager that has charted a growth path. Yet the firm has remained true to its roots and mindset of its “family business background,” which has informed how New Mountain has partnered with both GPs and LPs, and it's a DNA that is central to their recent rollout of a wealth solutions business.Steve and I had a fascinating discussion about the evolution of private markets and how to build a leading alternative asset manager that helps build businesses. We covered:How private markets have changed since Steve began in the industry.What it means to build “great businesses.”How the mindset of the “family business background” has helped inform investment strategy and deepening LP relationships.How Steve and New Mountain have navigated scaling the firm while focusing on generating returns for LPs.How New Mountain has approached launching new strategies.The why and how behind launching a wealth solutions business.Thanks Steve for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Message from our sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:23 Podcast Theme and Opening02:03 Guest Introduction: Steve Klinsky04:00 Steve's Early Career in Private Equity05:39 The Evolution of Private Equity06:55 Forstmann Little and Co. Experience07:36 Founding New Mountain Capital08:08 New Mountain's Investment Philosophy08:25 Family Business Influences08:56 New Mountain's Cultural Values09:13 Working with Entrepreneurs and Management Teams10:15 Scaling New Mountain Capital13:35 Investment Strategies and Talent14:45 Opportunities and Challenges in Private Equity15:03 Mid-Market Focus and Growth Opportunities16:10 Impact of Industry Growth on Mid-Market Firms16:50 Product Innovation in Private Markets18:40 Synergy Between Investment Strategies20:20 Growth and Future of New Mountain Capital21:10 Engaging the Wealth Channel21:40 Building the New Mountain Brand23:07 New Mountain's Edge and Performance24:20 Engaging the Wealth Channel25:50 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management27:17 Strategies for Wealth Channel Engagement27:39 Productization for the Wealth Channel28:05 Industry Evolution and Consolidation28:40 Wealth Channel vs Institutional Channel29:44 Institutional Side of Private Markets29:59 Historical Perspective on Institutional Changes30:47 Challenges and Investment Strategies for the Wealth Channel32:03 Investment Lessons34:48 Common Threads in Successful Investments35:53 Leveraging AI and Technology in Investments37:56 Value Creation in Services Businesses38:42 Effective Value Creation Levers39:38 Growth and Team Building at New Mountain41:04 Starting New Mountain in 199943:00 Navigating Market Turbulence44:57 Private Markets vs Public Markets45:53 Lessons from Private Markets for Public Investors47:47 Importance of Price in Investing49:24 Building a Strong Team50:05 Global Investment Strategies50:47 Future Investment Excitement51:58 Focus on Wealth Channel52:13 Growth in Secondaries and Continuation Vehicles52:42 Industry Evolution and Firm Growth53:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today we sit down with a technology and fund services veteran who has worked with many of the industry’s largest asset managers.Cesar Estrada is Private Markets Head at Arcesium, a global financial technology company delivering pre- and post-investment operations and enterprise data management solutions designed to systematize the most complex workflows.Arcesium was built from a platform developed and tested by investment and technology development firm, the D. E. Shaw Group, and launched as a joint venture with Blackstone Alternative Asset Management. J.P. Morgan, another large client, later made a strategic investment in the company, helping Arcesium further its mission: to power the entire investment lifecycle.Cesar is responsible for Arcesium’s data management and investment operations technology and services offered to private markets fund managers and investors. Previously, he served as Senior Managing Director and Alternatives Business Head for North America at State Street — a role in which he drove the growth agenda for a business with approximately $1 trillion in Assets Under Administration by leading new product launches, expansion into new client segments, strategic partnerships, and acquisitions. He served on the board of State Street Fund Services Inc. Prior to that, as a Managing Director at J.P. Morgan, Cesar led the Private Equity & Real Estate Funds Services business from launch to $350B AUA.Cesar and I had a fascinating conversation about the impact of technology and automation on private markets. We discussed:What private markets going mainstream means for pre- and post-investment operations.Why alternative asset managers need to have technology solutions to manage, track, and analyze data and workflows if they want to scale.The biggest challenges that alternative asset managers face as they handle the increase in data management, more funds, and more investors.What technology or workflow solutions are still missing.How much AI will impact technology workflows in private markets.Why ABF has become such an important part of the private credit ecosystem.Thanks Cesar for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience in private markets.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.You can also see a recent Q&A with Cesar on AGM here.If you want to learn how Arcesium is delivering the technological infrastructure required to manage the complexities of asset-based financing, you can download their white paper here and read thoughts on the asset-based finance space from Arcesium’s Private Markets Head and industry veteran Cesar Estrada.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast00:39 Guest Introduction: Cesar Estrada02:37 Cesar's Background02:57 Cesar's Career Path03:35 Evolution of Fund Services Industry04:49 Arcesium's Core Competencies05:06 Technology in Private Markets05:27 Arcesium's Joint Venture Origins06:12 Technology Architecture07:11 Client-Centric Ownership Model07:18 Building for the Biggest07:46 Solving Complex Problems08:44 Challenges and Solutions in Data Management10:28 Data Silos in Asset Management10:53 Roadblocks to Technology Adoption11:41 Operations and Technology Bottlenecks12:31 Strategic Imperatives for Growth14:20 Hiring and Strategy in Asset Management15:55 Point Solutions vs. End-to-End Solutions17:27 Role of the CTO18:21 Build vs. Buy Decision19:22 Investment Team's Understanding of Technology19:22 The Impact of AI and Future Innovations20:07 Technology's Leverage for Smaller Firms21:36 Consolidation in Private Markets22:22 Technology for Scaling Firms22:40 Flexibility in Private Markets23:05 Technology in Private Credit and ABF25:35 Volume Problem in ABF25:55 Data Ecosystem in ABF27:10 Wealth Channel and Evergreen Products28:04 Product Innovation in Private Markets28:45 Future of Private Markets30:05 Technology Selection Process30:51 User Experience in Technology31:40 Consumer Experience in Private Markets33:06 Hands-On Technology Evaluation33:42 Reducing Operational Headcount34:02 Gen AI in Asset Management35:33 Future Impact of Gen AI36:20 Marrying People and Technology37:01 Next Phase in Asset Management Technology39:16 Cesar's Personal Investment Views40:40 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant. 

Welcome to the 16th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to announce a ground-breaking partnership in private markets: a collaboration between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth, where models that include both public and private markets exposure through a unified managed account (UMA) are now available to advisors.I sat down with Jack Hannah, the President & COO of GeoWealth, and Michael Doniger, SVP, Partnerships at iCapital, to discuss the technology and market structure innovation of the UMA and how private markets can play a role in model portfolios.In this live, unscripted episode, Jack, Michael, and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered:An introduction to the partnership between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth.Incorporating private markets into UMAs.The private markets integration workflow.Customization and “sleeving” in UMAs.Thanks Jack and Michael for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:34 Evolution of UMAs in Private Markets01:03 Incorporating Alternatives into UMAs01:32 Private Markets Integration Workflow02:41 Challenges and Solutions in UMA Implementation03:32 Customization and Sleeving in UMAs04:32 Client-Centric Solutions and Advisor Needs05:21 Early Adoption of Private Market Solutions06:17 Building a Robust Model Marketplace08:37 Future of Model Portfolios and UMAs13:10 Post-Investment Processes and Technology14:17 Data Solutions and Performance Reporting15:06 Growth Projections for UMAs and Private Markets16:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts16:12 Closing Remarks and Thank You

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone responsible for growing the footprint of one of the largest private markets businesses in the industry.We sat down at Goldman Sachs’ 200 West office with Kyle Kniffen to discuss the evolution of the firm’s work with the wealth channel and how an intensified focus on private markets is helping to drive the firm’s strategic imperatives in asset and wealth management.Kyle is a Managing Director, Global Head of Alternatives, Third Party Wealth, at Goldman Sachs, which has over $500B of AUM in private markets. He’s responsible for the distribution of both Goldman Sachs private markets products and third party products to the wealth channel.Kyle and I had a fascinating conversation about the most pressing trends and questions in private markets. We discussed:How lessons learned from traditional asset management have helped Goldman with its private markets business.The benefits of a broad platform when it comes to helping the wealth channel navigate private markets.Why advisors should integrate private markets solutions.How to build a wealth channel business.How to think about evergreen funds versus closed end funds.The next innovation in productization.Why co-investments are becoming more popular with the wealth channel.Are evergreen funds here to stay?Thanks Kyle for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:42 Introduction to the Podcast and our Guest02:00 A message from our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions04:06 Kyle’s Background and Journey04:18 Wealth Channel Strategies and Insights05:06 Goldman's Heritage in Private Markets05:28 Client Demand for Thought Partnership06:13 Public Markets Perspective07:07 Consultative Sales Approach07:21 Lessons from Institutional Segment09:05 Quality of Investment Flow10:51 Serving the Third Party Wealth Channel12:53 Client Segmentation and Customization15:16 Global Reach and Relationship Building22:43 Product Innovation and Future Trends27:12 Balancing Client Needs in Alternative Investments27:47 Who Should Invest in Alternatives?28:36 Asset Liability and Liquidity in Investment Strategies29:28 Technology Innovations in Private Markets30:00 Exciting Progress in Alternative Strategies30:46 Transparency and Communication in Investments31:14 The Puzzle of Private Market Structures31:54 Post-Sale Transparency and Investor Experience33:27 Engaging Clients Through Brand and Marketing35:37 Customization in Wealth Management37:24 Educating Advisors on Private Markets37:47 Delivering Unique Insights and Education39:01 Goldman Sachs Investment University41:09 Lessons from ETFs and Mutual Funds41:54 The Importance of Performance and Education43:11 Tools for Advisors and Real-Life Applications44:06 Understanding Private Markets' Impact on Portfolios47:19 Excitement Around Private Equity Secondaries49:02 Advisors' Interests in Tax-Advantaged Strategies49:47 The Role of Liquidity in Private Markets50:35 The Importance of Scale in Private Markets51:38 Future of Private Equity Secondaries52:14 The Permanency of Secondary Markets52:52 Conclusion: The Benefits of a Global Platform Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with a wealth channel veteran who has an innate and developed view of working with wealth.We sat down in the studio with Adam Bobker. Adam joined Fortress Investment Group in 2022 to build out their wealth business as Managing Director, Global Co-Head of Private Wealth Solutions. He oversees strategy, distribution, marketing, product development, and client management activities across Fortress’ investment programs.Prior to joining Fortress, Adam was a MD and Head of the Private Wealth Advisory Group at BlackRock, where he spent 22 years. He led a team focusing on private wealth management and institutional consultant channels, as well as business development for BlackRock’s hedge fund, private equity, private credit, and real asset platforms.Adam and I had a fascinating conversation about how to build a wealth solutions business. We discussed:The entrepreneurial nature of building a business for the wealth channel.Lessons that can be learned from other industries.Why selling into the wealth channel is like being a doctor.Why understanding the DNA of an asset management firm matters when building a wealth solutions business.What Adam looks for in a successful distribution professional and when building a distribution team.How to create scalability and leverage with a distribution team.How to structure products for the wealth channel.How to get into model portfolios.Thanks Adam for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and wealth management.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:23 Podcast Theme Song02:01 Introduction to Today's Guest: Adam Bobker02:40 Building a Wealth Solutions Business03:40 The Importance of Client Relationships04:09 Understanding Client Needs05:10 Evolution of Wealth Management07:04 The Role of Education in Wealth Management07:14 Innovative Investment Structures08:22 Model Portfolios and Custom Solutions13:05 Strategic Partnerships in Wealth Management17:30 The Importance of Technology in Wealth Management18:18 Adam's Transition to Fortress18:36 Building a Wealth Business at Fortress19:00 Innovative Strategies at Fortress20:13 Focus Areas for Fortress Wealth Business21:22 Evergreen Structures in Wealth Management22:08 Advisor Psychology and Evergreen Structures23:57 Suitability of Strategies for Evergreen Funds25:14 Managing Evergreen Funds27:12 Opportunities in Real Estate Credit27:55 Investor Hesitation and Education28:03 Immediate Exposure with Semi-Liquid Funds28:33 Are Evergreen Structures Better for Investors?28:39 The Future of Investment Strategies28:57 Industry Flows and Semi-Liquid Funds29:20 Impact on Alternative Asset Management29:29 Consolidation and Strategy Expansion29:58 Focus on Whole Portfolio Delivery30:31 Building a Strong Team31:17 Consultative Sales Approach31:56 Effective Communication in Wealth Management32:58 Importance of Brand in Asset Management33:38 Client Experience and Technology Providers34:03 In-House vs. Third-Party Services36:34 Mainstreaming Private Markets37:24 Commitment to Wealth Channel39:11 Transforming Investment Strategies39:50 Art and Science of Portfolio Construction42:08 Transparency and Liquidity in Private Markets43:05 Product Innovation and Asset Liability Mismatch45:45 Evergreen vs. Closed-End Funds47:27 Evolution of Fund of Funds Business48:22 Wealth Platforms and Private Markets49:51 Convergence of Institutional and Wealth Management51:10 Future of Alternative Asset Management51:54 Fee Compression in the Industry53:07 Raising Allocation to Alternatives55:14 Innovative and Pioneering Strategies Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who is an expert on the RIA market and the wealth management business model.We talk with Karl Heckenberg, the President & Managing Partner of Constellation Wealth Capital, an investment firm that recently closed on a $1B debut fund dedicated to providing differentiated, long-term capital solutions to well-positioned independent wealth management firms in the $8T and growing wealth management sector.Karl’s deep experience in wealth management as both an investor, from his time as the CEO of Emigrant Partners and its affiliated company, Fiduciary Network, and time on the advisor side at Merrill Lynch, A.G. Edwards & Sons, Wells Fargo, and Charles Schwab, puts him in a position to understand the inner workings of wealth management businesses. He’s also sat on the boards of Sarasota Private Trust Company, New York Private Trust Company, and Cleveland Private Trust Company, and is currently on the board at Alternative Fund Advisors.CWC has made investments into some of the industry’s leading wealth management firms, including AlTi Global, Cresset Partners, AlphaCore, Lido, and others.Karl and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of the wealth management industry and why it’s become such an attractive investment opportunity. We discussed: The intricacies of business growth and serving clients.Why private markets are such a critical component to differentiating a wealth management firm.Why we’ll see a $1T independent wealth management business in the coming years.The parallels between the business evolution of alternative asset managers and wealth managers.Thanks Karl for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of wealth management and private markets.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:18 Podcast Opening Theme01:57 Introduction to Today's Guest: Karl Heckenberg03:57 Karl Heckenberg's Background and Career Journey06:10 Early Days of Wealth Management07:41 Post-GFC Evolution of RIAs08:59 Understanding the Independent Wealth Management Space10:15 Growth and Scale in Wealth Management12:17 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management15:02 Importance of Client Experience19:34 Investment Strategies in Wealth Management20:07 Ownership and Equity Distribution20:54 Minority vs. Control Investments23:08 M&A in Wealth Management23:23 High-Quality Firms and Client Experience23:59 Capital Needs and Growth24:55 Advisory Services and Value Addition25:32 Comparisons with GP Stakes27:39 Durability and Resilience of Wealth Management Firms29:08 Exit Strategies and Public Market Potential29:40 Valuations and Capital Providers31:46 Future of Public Market Exits34:24 Compounding Growth and Returns35:05 Distribution and Liquidity35:34 Investment Grade Assets and Equity Returns35:47 Answering Key Investment Questions36:38 Investor Concerns and Market Dynamics36:59 Investment Buckets and Flexibility37:25 Private Wealth vs Institutional Investors38:02 Network Effects and Synergies38:27 Hesitations and Value Add of Constellation39:13 Collaborative Best Practices39:43 LP Side and Fundraising Timing40:08 Understanding the Wealth Channel40:24 Retail Distribution and Success Strategies41:05 Product Structuring and Client Diversification41:19 Impact of Technology on Wealth Management42:26 Importance of Private Markets Knowledge43:44 Diversification and Institutional Approach44:52 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Markets46:20 Advisors' Education and Differentiation48:26 Balancing Customization and Scalability49:32 Operational Efficiency and Retail Products51:16 Listening to Wealth Channel Needs51:30 Yield-Oriented Products and Diversification53:28 Educational Resources and Client Engagement54:14 Growth of Wealth Channel and Private Equity55:50 Consolidation and Future of Wealth Space58:35 Succession Planning and Client Experience01:04:37 Future of Wealth Management and Private Markets01:06:05 Closing Thoughts and Future Predictions Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.