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Animal Spirits is a show about markets, life, and investing. Join Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, listening to and watching. Look for new episodes every Wednesday morning. See our disclosures here - https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Mike Laughlin from Janus Henderson Investors to discuss: how securitization works, investing in CLOs, the size of the securitized market, how fixed income investing has changed and much more.
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Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense
Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers.
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Please consider the charges, risks, expenses and investment objectives carefully before investing. For a prospectus or, if available, a summary prospectus containing this and other information, please call Janus Henderson at 800.525.3713 or download the file from janushenderson.com/reports. Read it carefully before you invest or send money.
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Janus Henderson® and any other trademarks used herein are trademarks of Janus Henderson Group plc or one of its subsidiaries. © Janus Henderson Group plc.
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On episode 463 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: Paul Tudor Jones on market valuations, how many people own stocks, mind-boggling numbers from the hyperscalers, a lost decade for bonds, why higher gas prices sting, some macro prediction rules, government debt levels, Jevon's Paradox, prediction market winners and losers and much more.
This episode is sponsored by Grayscale and Janus Henderson Investors.
To learn more, visit https://www.grayscale.com/
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Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense
Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor
Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation.
Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
Obviously nothing on this channel should be considered as personalized financial advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any securities. See our disclosures here:
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Janus Henderson Investors Disclosure: Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing involves risk, including the possible loss of principal and fluctuation of value. Janus Henderson® and any other trademarks used herein are trademarks of Janus Henderson Group plc or one of its subsidiaries. © Janus Henderson Group plc.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Alex Morris from F/m Investments for a live show recorded in Washington D.C. that covers inflation, the Fed, AI, tax alpha and much more.
Definitions of terms from the episode -
AG Index: Evaluates the performance of agricultural sectors across different regions.
Basis point: Is used to indicate changes in the interest rates of a financial instrument.
SALT Deduction: SALT stands for State and Local Taxes. The SALT deduction allows taxpayers to deduct these taxes from their deferral taxable income.
Alpha: Measures an investment’s performance relative to a benchmark index.
Tax Alpha: The difference between a portfolio’s after-tax return and the after-tax return of benchmark.
Coupon: A periodic interest payment made to bondholders
Russell 2000: Is a stock market index that measures the performance of 2,000 small cap companies in the U.S.
Options: Financial derivatives that give the holder the right, but not the obligation, to buy or sell an asset
BDCs: Stands for Business Development Company, a type of investment firm. BDCs primarily invest in small and mid-sized businesses
REITs: Stands for Real Estate Investment Trust, a company that owns, operates, or finances income-producing real estate
Par: Stated or face value of a financial instrument, primarily bonds and stocks
GFC: Stands for Global Financial Crisis, which refers to the severe worldwide economic crisis that occurred in 2007-2008
AGG: iShares Core U.S. Aggregate Bond ETF, which tracks the performance of the U.S. investment-grade bond market
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Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense
Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers.
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On episode 462 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: how AI will impact wealth management, a stock market boom for the ages, why the Fed never created a financial crisis, an ode to Tim Cook, the world's biggest ETF, ridiculous car payments, AI job market winners and losers, surveys are broken, the dreaded mid-life crisis and more.
This episode is sponsored by Betterment Advisor Solutions and ClearBridge.
Learn more about Betterment at https://www.betterment.com/advisors
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Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by State Street's Michael Arone to discuss: the origin story of SPY, what's driving ETF adoption, geopolitics vs. AI, potential economic risks and more.
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers.
State Street Disclosure:
Important Risk Information
Investing involves risk including the risk of loss of principal.
ETFs trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, fluctuate in
market value and may trade at prices above or below the ETFs net asset
value. Brokerage commissions and ETF expenses will reduce returns.
The views expressed in this material are the views of Michael Arone
through the period ended April 13, 2026 and are subject to change
based on market and other conditions. This document contains certain
statements that may be deemed forward-looking statements. Please note
that any such statements are not guarantees of any future performance
and actual results or developments may differ materially from those
projected.
Before investing, consider the funds’ investment objectives, risks,
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other information, call 1.866.787.2257 or visit www.ssga.com. Read it
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On episode 461 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: why the stock market feels like it makes no sense, stocks are the smart money, the speed of market moves, an epic bull market run, a new inflation regime, Hyperliquid, what Austin got right on housing, consumers are still spending, Michael's number one rule of investing and more.
This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+, Fidelity’s most powerful trading platform yet. Learn more at http://www.fidelity.com/TraderPlus
This episode is sponsored by Janus Henderson Investors. Learn more at https://www.janushenderson.com/
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Matt Kaufman from Calamos to discuss: how autocallable ETFs work, the structured products boom and a new way to target growth in your portfolio.
To learn more about amplified, long-term wealth accumulation visit: www.calamos.com/CAGE
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
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On episode 460 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: Tax Day, the benefits of writing, energy vs. tech, a confusing labor market, a rite of passage for younger generations, millennials vs. boomers, AI uncertainty, Bitcoin vs. software stocks, the downfall of Nike and more.
This episode is sponsored by Goldman Sachs and Janus Henderson Investors.
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by J.P. Morgan's Hamilton Reiner to discuss: creating income via options and how covered call strategies work.
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https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/adv/disclosures/talkyourbookpodcastapril2026/
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
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The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers.
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On episode 459 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: he psychology of stock market losses, the Mag 7 impact on returns this year, value is beating growth, the upper middle class is growing, why rich people don't feel rich, the impact of higher gas prices, houses in America are getting older, Airbnb's economic impact and more.
This episode is sponsored by WisdomTree and ClearBridge Investments.
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Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson have two guests. First up is Bill Mann from Motley Fool Asset Management to talk about the momentum factor. Next is Kevin Lynyak from Morgan Stanley to discuss preferred securities.
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here:
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On episode 458 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: recession fears, the stock market is bad at recession predictions, why this is an orderly sell-off, earnings are still rising, stocks rarely finish the year down, there are so many rich people, wealth inequality vs. socialism, house money pits, private credit redemptions and more.
This episode is sponsored by Teucrium and Janus Henderson Investors.
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Invesco's Stephanie Larosiliere to discuss: how to diversify your bonds, AI's impact on the economy, hedging higher inflation and more.
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On episode 457 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: how markets are controlling the war, the cost of higher energy prices, why the stock market isn't falling more, why the Fed shouldn't raise rates, the Forrest Gump market, why gold is down 20%, the not-so-K-shaped economy, AI is making us work more, accidental landlords, how to create a good business and more.
This episode is sponsored by Invesco and Janus Henderson Investors.
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Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management.
The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. Any mention of a particular security and related performance data is not a recommendation to buy or sell that security. The information provided on this website (including any information that may be accessed through this website) is not directed at any investor or category of investors and is provided solely as general information.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Krista Lynch from Grayscale to discuss: crypto legislation, stablecoins, ETFs, in-kind creations and more.
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On episode 456 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: why oil prices aren't higher, complacency in the markets, energy stocks, oil as the new meme stock, geopolitical events vs. the stock market, why AI isn't a bubble, bitcoin isn't dead yet, housing affordability is improving, private credit redemptions, the case for PE stocks, who orders DoorDash, there is no retirement crisis and more.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Erkko Etula, CEO and Chief Investment Officer of Brooklyn Investment Group, to discuss tax advantaged long/short SMAs.
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On episode 455 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are live from Future Proof Citywide in Miami talking with Michael Kitces and Phil Huber about the wealth management business in the age of AI, the private credit crisis of confidence and a very special Animal Spirits roast.
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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Franklin Templeton's Chris Galipeau to discuss: a broadening out of stock market leadership, what's working, what's not working, how AI is impacting markets and much more.
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On episode 454 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss the geopolitical impact on markets, inflationary risk, when risk goes off, concentration risk, AI vs. white collar workers, the optimistic case for AI, falling and rising bond yields, inheriting a house from your parents, the private credit crisis of confidence, the loneliness epidemic and more.
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The rationale here is flawed and short-sighted. not having a mortgage is definitely a decision and mathematically it may be defensible not to pay it off but from a risk perspective there is a strong argument to be made for the opportunities it opens up in terms of aggressive investing. I paid mine off, use the mega back door Roth for 6 years to max out all available investing with no debt, million $ paid off home, retired at 52, now with more than a million dollars in a Roth IRA and no debt
blah blah blah more future proof.... more future proof.... No one listening went to your super special conference, MOVE ON! @bencarlson
the fact that Ben hasn't seen Casablanca means he is disqualified from making all other movie reviews
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your take on paying off the mortgage is childish
Holy shit that drill is annoying.
We know, that Batnick knows, that he interrupts, but it's getting to the point of being annoying. Why even have a guest or even have Ben there? Batnick should just do his own podcast that way he can just go about whatever he wants to talk about and can interrupt himself.
how much more evidence do you need that Batnick is an idiot: "... to the hills." instead of "to the hilt" "... take it with a grain of sand" instead of "take it with a grain of salt" 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
no no no, a five dollar shake in 94 was super expensive!
If you need an example that Batnick is an idiot, this is the episode.
wow
When is the next ep with BlockFi?
lm1p , was z a , z c
I'm 21 and saving for retirement, I feel personally attacked
Great, thanks!!!