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This Week on Another Brother: In episode #208, The October Special 3, we finally get a creepy conclusion to the tale! Alex tells his side of the story of the infamous night in Rock Canyon and the full story of what the three brothers found is explored. Hang onto your jack-o-lanterns! It's gonna be a spooky ride! Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #207, The October Special 2, the spooks continue! Can your expectations for reality directly impact your perceived reality? Quantum mechanics might say 'yes', but don't trust us, we're not physicists. However, there's an app that tries to tap into quantum principles to do that very thing. Warning: some of the experiences users have had have been disturbing- we wouldn't be talking about it in October otherwise. Listen to find out what this app is. Then Josh shares his perspective in part 2 of the 3 part special. If Jacob's story piqued your interest, you'll be sure to love additional perspectives. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #206, The October Special 1, the brothers kick off their first special series! October is their favorite month after all. It's spooky season. They share the scariest moments they've experienced. Spoiler, there might be a ghost sighting. Then Jacob kicks off part 1 of the 3 part special. Stick around to find out what it's all about. The next two episodes will build off this, with the third part revealing all! Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #205, The Dangerous Downhill Date, the brothers discuss sports - they seem like a reliable source. Don't worry, they're joined by their father for the first time! He's a big sports fan. Join the discussion of skill vs athleticism (they might mix the two terms a few times), and let us know what you think. Then stick around for Alex telling us about the worst date he's been on. We promise it's not going to be anything like you'd expect. But before that, check out our first installment of Uncle in the Wild! Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #204, The Female-Filled Frontier, the brothers discuss outdoor adventures even more. This time they focused on the time around their college years, including time together. Paintballing, sledding, hiking, exploring - jump into what solidified their "brotherlyhoodness" (coined by Jacob) as they now know it! From brothers to best friends (again, good words by Jacob). Then Alex hits us with some lesser known stories from history! A miners' militia, fist woman filling in for her ill husband, and a woman who revolutionized medical care in the frontier and left a still living legacy. These stories are worth the listen! Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #203, The Cross Country Clatter, the brothers revisit night games! Rather than just reminiscing, this time they dive into the rules and how to play. Now you can play along at home too! You're especially in luck, Alex brings to you his very own brainchild of a night game. They also give some alt rules to one of their classics. And Speaking of night games, Jacob shares a story of some mischief making that went down in the night. His was the last cross country group from their high school to do an overnight trip for several years... Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #202, The Banal Boring Barracks, the brothers keep talking about masculinity, sheesh do men ever shut up. Josh leads out with hot takes on masculinity, though not his own... just listen and find out. Don't worry, they're so ridiculous they're funny. If you don't know yet, the brothers clearly think it's okay for men to cry. Somewhat ironically juxtaposed, Josh shares some more military deployment stories! You're hearing them for the first time right along with the other brothers! But wait, it's not over! Josh gives Alex a birthday surprise from one of the brothers' most beloved podcasters. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #201, The Gladiator Gym Guide, the brothers return for their greatly delayed premier of season 2! Are you that surprised that they overshot their return date by this much? Anyway, Jacob came prepared with a hot take... warm take... room temp take? You decide! Warning, it's about masculinity. Who doesn't want to hear three brothers talk about their take on masculinity? Fortunately, Alex lightens the mood! We won't spoil it, but you saw the episode title... GLADIATOR. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

We told you we were coming back! Okay okay... it might be a little later than we told you. Check out our video version of this trailer HERE. Be on the look out for our eventual socials. Get ready for season 2 of camaraderie, geeky fascination, and heartfelt moments. Unravel the mysteries of the universe – from probing the latest alien encounters to unraveling the legends of elusive cryptids. Share in gaming escapades, discover never-before told personal stories, and help determine once and for all who the BEST superhero is. With us, you’re not just a listener, you’re Another Brother. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #026, The Creepy Canyonlands Chronicle, the brothers keep riding the spooky October train, this time to video game station. You aren't really surprised they they they have memorable scary video games are you? Which one sounds the scariest to you? Then Alex treats us with some more spooky tales that come right out of Utah. Did your ears hear right? Is this the last episode of the season??? It is, but stay tuned as some updates will come through during the brothers' break and maybe even some social media content. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): See what the developers of Eternal Darkness did to try to play on the actual player's sanity.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #023, The Jarring Japanese Jerk, the brothers continue talking about creativity, but from a slightly different perspective. What does it feel like to real nail something creative? What draws them to creative outlets? It could have something to do with stress relief or happiness. But you'll have to listen to find out! Plus Jared shares his scariest encounter while he lived in Japan for two years. It's completely uncharacteristic and not what you'd expect! Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): Click here to watch one of Jacob's short YouTube videos that he's fond of. And here are some party invites that Alex nailed. And this is the city in which Jared's jarring Japanese encounter happened!

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #022, The Killer Kay's Cross, two of the brothers and Jared talk about creative outlets. What gets in the way? What inspires? How have their relationships with creative outlets changed through ageing? See where they agree and disagree. Alex then tells us of a creepy tale that happened only a few miles from where the brothers currently live. Which of the two variants do you think is more believable? Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): Here's a local news story about Kay's Cross. Albert Pencovic is kind of crazy. Check out his story! Ghost Adventures really did go to Kay's Cross. Believe it!

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #021, The Siberian Stories Selections, the brothers (and sister) talk about games. They're from a gaming family. But what kind of games you ask? Listen to find out, and see if any of these games sound familiar or are ones you play with your family. You might get a little peek into the Stewart gaming mindset. It could get competitive. Then Jacob shares a few stories of some of his first memorable experiences in Siberia. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): Check out the Wikipedia page about Novosibirsk. Jacob lived here for about 10 months. Jacob was stopped around the police somewhere around here. This square has had a lot of construction, so some of these buildings weren't there at that time.

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #018, The Harbored Haunted House, the brothers talk final meals! Why are the wondering about final meals? Is a zombie apocalypse about to happen? Are they going to jail. We'll never know, but as usual the answers reveal a lot about them and show their differences. It's also a fitting discussion to have before the tail that Jacob tells. What would the hero of this tail have chosen as her final meal? Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): See, German pancakes are of American origin! But it could be a little more complicated. And while we're at it, French toast comes from ancient Rome. Read through the article to see where the name comes  from. Here's a short article about the Yaquina Bay Lighthouse with some pictures of it! Read Lischen Miller's work for yourself!

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #017, The Remarkable Revolutionary Rebel, the Brothers set upon a quest that will take them through rules, background information, context, dungeons, and dragons immemorial! Aided by their trusty elder brother, they learn fascinating things like, can my TTRPG character do whatever it wants? What if it wants to be evil like Lizzie? But FIRST, Jacob has his own orb-sighting experience. Finally, Josh takes us through a wave top telling of the story of Hugh Mercer, done in pseudo-Memento-like fashion. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.   Transcript: The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API: [00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother [00:00:37] Another Brother Theme Song [00:00:00] Stewnerds Segment Jacob: Okay, I'm gonna get started real quick. This is just a quick tangent before we get into the actual Stewnerds for today. Alex: Sorry, I'm gonna have to cut you off right here even. Jacob: That's fine. Alex: For people that are still confused, we call the first segment of this show, Stewnerds, as a play on Stewart. Lizzie: Jared literally asked about this today. Josh: Oh really? Lizzie: Yeah Alex: Stewnerds because we just nerd out about whatever we feel like in the first segment. Go on Jacob. Jacob: I think you get it brothers. Okay so this just happened To Heather and me 2 nights ago. I don't know if you guys even know we were down in Bryce Canyon With Heather's whole family. We left the our Airbnb at like 1030 to go to The rim of the canyon to go stargazing. So, we had just got out of the truck, we're walking towards the rim, and we saw an orb. Lizzie: No, you didn't! Alex: What?? Jacob: It had to have been. Lizzie: No. Jacob: Now, of course, Jake saw it too, and he's like, oh, look at someone's laser pointer or something like that. It was a single focused ball of light. Alex: Where? Josh: What color? Jacob: Down in the canyon. Alex: Okay. Yeah, what color? Jacob: It was bright white. Alex: That's not a laser. Jacob: No, it's not a laser. Alex: I don't know of any lasers that do white. There are no RGB lasers that are just a white beam. Jacob: And there's no beam to it it was just a single point of light. Single source. Just very spherical. Josh: Was it moving around like a fairy? Jacob: It just zoomed by. Like And it was quick. Alex: So it couldn't be like a trail runner with a headlight on. Jacob: No, no, no, no. This was suspended- Lizzie: Out in the middle- Jacob: in the air, in the middle of, Josh: What? Jacob: Up above the canyon. So probably like, Josh: Was it dark out? Could it have been something that- Jacob: It was pitch black. Alex: They were going star gazing, so. Josh: Oh, yeah. Jacob: This is 1 of those certified dark skies Areas, you know, the country only has so many, Bryce Canyon's one of them. Lizzie: Good to know. Josh: Could it have been a quad copter? With lights on. Jacob: So, I mean if it if it had if they had removed or disabled their red and green lights to show you orientation And if they put a spotlight on it or sort of a point light, Josh: so it was okay So describe the light. Jacob: didn't make a sound. I mean like. So it was a- It was a sphere of light. Josh: so like no blurring around the edges of this sphere. Or, you know, is it a crisp, crisp delineation between the light. Alex: Yeah, why do you call it a sphere? What about it makes you say it was a sphere? Lizzie: Because it was a ball of light. Jacob: Yeah, literally just a ball of light. Alex: Well yeah but you look at a... Jacob: I mean, it was so fast, right? Like, yeah, at the least, there was motion. There would have been perceived motion blur. But it just, it zoomed by. Josh: A straight path, no deviation? Jacob: Yeah. Josh: Crazy. Alex: If it was curved, it was subtly, and it just looked like a straight line. Jacob: Yeah. Lizzie: How How far, you said like out in the middle of the canyon. Jacob: Yeah, so it wasn't actually in the middle, it was maybe like 100 feet from us. Alex: Oh, that's pretty close actually. Jacob: Oh, it was, I'll say 50 to 100 feet. It was quite close. Lizzie: That's very close. Jacob: Yeah Lizzie: How big was it, was it little then? Jacob: I mean You know, maybe basketball size from that Far of a distance away Josh: that tracks with them the blue orbs On the ranch they suggest the blue orbs that they see are kind of like volleyball the basketball size. Jacob: Yeah that's right they do. Alex: But those are blue Josh: meanwhile the red orbs are smaller they're more like grapefoot- great- sorry, grape foot Lizzie: What? Josh: That's what said. Alex: Don't bring cryptids into this now. Josh: The crypt... Yeah, grapefruit, softball size for the red orbs. Jacob: For the distance it was I think it would have been larger than that. So again, it felt like an orb sighting. I'm such a skeptic. I can't really 100% claim it was an orb. I don't know. I don't know what it would have been logically. And you can ask Heather about it offline. You can get her take on it too. Lizzie: Oh, Heather is going to diss it. Jacob: No, Heather's with me. She doesn't know what the heck that would have been. Josh: You said you don't know what else it would be logically. What's so illogical about orbs these days? Alex: If it was a hundred to 50 feet away and it was a drone, you would have heard a drone. Jacob: Yes, Yeah, and there was no sound. Lizzie: And those aren't crazy fast. Alex: They can be. Jacob: They can be very fast. Alex: Racing drones are ridiculous. Lizzie: That's a thing? Jacob: Oh yeah. Alex: Yeah, welcome to the 2020s, geez Louise! Jacob: Okay, anyway, that took longer than I meant. It just wasn't big enough to be its own segment. So and it was so fresh, I had to tell you guys about that. Alex: Okay. Josh: Recorded, event recorded. Wait, timestamp. Alex: yeah, we'll see if We actually do keep this recorder. Okay, so we were planning to talk about Dungeons and Dragons this week. This is like the pinnacle of nerdiness, I think. I've always thought of it that way. So I wanted to start off with defining what Dungeons & Dragons is. Not like something that would go in a dictionary necessarily, but most people don't know what Dungeons & Dragons is. I want to do this because I'm the 1 that's played the most I think. Jacob: Absolutely. Josh: Definitely. Lizzie: Yeah. Jacob: Easily. Alex: I have the most D&D playing friends probably. So if you guys have any questions along the way or comments please do interject. But Dungeons & Dragons is a set of rules that allows you to play a tabletop role-playing game. There are other sets of rules that allow you to play, but all of the games that allow you to do this kind of gameplay are collectively known as tabletop role-playing games or TTRPGs. So Dungeons and Dragons is not a fantasy setting it is just a group of rules. But you could also say that it is a specific group of settings where you can play because within the Dungeons & Dragons brand you have the Forgotten Realms which is the setting that everyone thinks of when they think about dungeons and dragons. Jacob: And most people, that's the realm they play in, right? Alex: I don't know for sure, but I would I would believe so. Jacob: Probably the most material that they build around it as well. Alex: Yeah, right. It's a high fantasy. Jacob: Stranger Things? Is this the realm that they were playing? Alex: Yeah, yeah it sure seems like it. Yeah, for sure. It's a high fantasy setting, lots of dragons, lots of dungeons, lots of magic. That's what makes it a high fantasy setting is that it's there's a lot of magic. Magic's all over the place But there's also- What is that 1 called? Gray something Josh: Grey Skull. Alex: No, that's what I start thinking about. Jacob: He-Man Josh: Grey Moore Alex: Don't try to help. Josh: Oh. Alex: There's another setting that's a low fantasy setting that is Dungeons & Dragons where there's not a lot of magic so magic items or magic weapons not very common in that setting some people love it Lizzie: So guns? Alex: no no guns, Lizzie: swords? Alex: yeah it's still fantasy Lizzie: oh low fantasy, my bad Alex: It would be a little bit more like... Josh: Game of Thrones. Jacob: Lord of the Rings. Lizzie: Isn't there magic? Alex: Could be. I've never watched Game of Thrones. Josh: Oh, no, there probably is a lot of magic. Lizzie: We obviously don't know game of thrones. Alex: Yeah, there's some magic, I just don't know how much. There's plenty of dragons. Josh: The dragons. Alex: I mean, I'm sure there's still, well, I'm not sure actually, because I've never played in that setting. But I think you might think of it a little bit more like the Souls games, Dark Souls set of video games, where it's more about like this grim medieval setting with not a lot of magic. Josh: Oh, what's that new game that I tried playing? Lizzie: Elden Ring. Josh: Elden Ring. Alex: Oh, there's a lot of magic in that one. Josh: Oh, I never got far enough to experience magic. Lizzie: Yeah, that one's not the same as the- Alex: Magic is the most powerful way to play the game, is what I understand. Josh: Yeah, my bad. Alex: Okay, There's other settings that are really cool like there's a futuristic 1 I think actually I'm thinking of a Pathfinder setting which is a different set of rules. Josh: Different TTRPG? Alex: Yes a different TTRPG. Pathfinders was a spin-off from Dungeons & Dragons. Jacob: Oh, okay, I thought it was part of D&D so that's good to know. Alex: Right, no. It was based on, I think... I don't want to say because if we have any real nerds listening they will chew me up. Josh: I was gonna say, I thought I remember seeing a set of YouTube videos on Pathfinder and it

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #016, The Irresistible Italian Indulgence, the Brothers (and Sister) go way back in memory to identify the video games that had the most indelible impression on them. But first, a plan is afoot to make genetic copies of Stephen Christian in order to populate the future with never ending versions of Anberlin! You can thank the Brothers later, world. And finally, Alex introduces us to his beautiful mind, and his very cultured past-time delight.  Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness.   Transcript: The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API: [00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother [00:00:46] Another Brother Theme Song [00:01:05] Stewnerds Segment Josh: Well, this is a first. We are fully graced with all students. Jacob: It's all 4 of us. Josh: We haven't had all 4 on a segment before. Jacob: Congratulations. Alex: Yeah. Aside from that unpublished episode. Jacob: Not even once we like start monetizing and you pay for Patreon. Alex: Maybe if we get a million likes on this episode. Josh: Oh my gosh. Jacob: But with that, I'm dramatically going to interject. So just last night, Heather and I got back from San Diego. We went to a concert where Anberlin performed. And so I'm going to present before the brothers, the first Another Brother Relic. Josh: Oh, my gosh... That's fitting. Lizzie: Is that his? Jacob: Stephen Christian threw this bottle into the crowd. Josh: And hit you in the face? Jacob: and I got it. Lizzie: What? How? Why? Alex: we have his DNA! Lizzie: We can make another one! Josh: We can make more! Jacob: To be honest, I didn't see if he actually drank from it or not. It was 1 of those things he flung the water on the crowd. Alex: Oh darn it. Jacob: And then he ended up chucking the bottle too. Lizzie: Well his fingerprints? Jacob: Yeah, yeah, for sure. His fingerprints would definitely be on this. Alex: I don't think there's any DNA in a fingerprint. Josh: There's gotta be saliva in that bad boy. Jacob: So we were like maybe 30 feet from the stage. I made Heather get up there pretty close with me. Alex: Were you not in the middle of the mosh? Jacob: No 1 was moshing. No 1 knew Anberlin. Josh: Who was at this thing? Alex: Sad. Jacob: They were there for Yellow Card. It was Yellow Card's tour. Josh: Yellow Card is so overplayed. Jacob: So I was like, Alex: wait, wait, wait, Yellow Card was the headliner? Jacob: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Alex: I've never... I don't know Yellow Card. Jacob: They're big though. Alex: I know they are, but. Josh: Ocean Avenue. Lizzie: Yeah. Jacob: It was their 20th year anniversary of Ocean Avenue, which was a huge album. Josh: That's sad. I imagine Anberlin just didn't want to do a full, full on tour. They didn't really want to get back together. They just wanted to play for a little bit. Jacob: No, they're, come on, they just released that whole EP. Anyway, Alex: maybe, maybe, maybe. Jacob: I think they're getting back at it. Lizzie: But you're the only 1 cheering. Jacob: I was pretty much, no, no, everyone was, was getting into it-ish, but I was like, 1 of the only people around singing. So, but I made her get up close, of course. On the last song, Feel Good Drag, of course. Josh: Classic. Jacob: At the end, you see him drawing the crowd in, collecting them right in front of him. And like, I knew, like I had to make a move. So I hit it! I got right up there with everyone and he jumps into the crowd. Alex: Know way, He did? Jacob: He did. Alex: I've never seen him do that. Jacob: And I had to stop myself before I like full on fanboyed and pushed my way all the way in to touch him. Like, I was so close. Lizzie: Hold on, you should have... I would have. Jacob: This is a picture. Alex: And then taken something out of his pockets. Josh: Some more DNA! Jacob: Anyway, this was the real... This water bottle. That was the real- Josh: Gong Xi Fa Cai Jacob: Yep. Gong Xi Fa Cai. Alex: That's how you say cool in Chinese? Josh: Yeah. Alex: Oh my gosh. Lizzie: It just really rolls off the tongue. Josh: Everything does in that language. Jelly. Never been to an Anberlin concert. Definitely never went out of state to see them. Alex: Thrice. Josh: What? Jacob: I thought it was only twice. Alex: Thrice, I've been to an Anberlin- Josh: All in Salt Lake? Alex: Yes, always been Salt Lake. Josh: Dang. Jacob: Okay, the outdoor venue was awesome. Alex: The free concert was pretty sweet, yeah. Jacob: Oh. You went to a... Oh. Alex: Oh What? Jacob: I meant San Diego. Alex: Oh sorry Jacob: San Diego's was an outdoor venue. Alex: Yeah, right. Yeah, it was. Jacob: Did they play downtown Salt Lake? Alex: Gallivan Plaza in downtown Salt Lake for free. Jacob: Was it the Twilight series? Alex: On Facebook, the day of- No. No, because Twilight series happens in the park. Jacob: Right, that's why it's, okay. Alex: It was in the winter, which kind of sucked. But on Facebook, they were just like, Salt Lake! we're coming to Salt Lake City today! be there at Gallavan Plaza by 6! or something like that. It was again hosted by X96, which sucks. Anberlin, if somehow you guys are listening to this- Josh: They're not..... Alex: ditch those losers. Their mixers are terrible. Their audio guys are crap. I could mix it better than that. Well, that was a gauntlet. Oops! Jacob: Shots fired Josh: If we get a million likes, we might email them that. Alex: I actually don't know that I could. I don't think I could mix it that well. I've never done anything that loud. Josh: Have you ever mixed in the open? Alex: I've mixed plenty of live music, but nothing rock, nothing anywhere near that loud. Jacob: Yeah. Alex: And I'm sure the volume has some unique challenges that come with it. Josh: Nah, those guys just suck. Alex: Nevertheless, it's just not good mixing. I've got a friend, Mark. Mark could mix it way better. And now for something completely different. Well, I'm not sure we were completely on the same page about what we were talking about tonight. I hope so. Jacob: I think so. Josh: Yeah. Alex: Okay. My thought was, like, super early video game memories that were like ones that cemented us as gamers. Josh: Yeah. Alex: Yeah, those early memories that are like, oh, this game is amazing. I need to be a gamer forever Josh: yeah I have two. Alex: Oh. Jacob: Wow. Josh: so I guess I'll start Jacob: yeah do it. Josh: it's kind of a big amalgamation but I'll say 1 Jacob was there for sure so he'll know. okay so Xbox Halo LAN parties Alex: of course of course of course Josh: But specifically, together against Jacob's friends. And 1 of Jacob's friends in particular, Jason, who we've talked about, his character's name was Mr. Parshal. Our high school principal. Alex: Oh. Jacob: Oh that's right. So, every year that I went to McNary, I had a new principal each single year. Lizzie: McNary's awful. Jacob: Not anymore Josh: So, Mr. Parshal was the, well, he must have been the third principal. He sucked. Oh, no, the name was Mr. Parshal Sucks, I think. But anyway... So whenever you killed Mr. Parshal you were like, yeah! But Every time, and Jason was a good sniper. He was really good at that game. Every time he killed you, you got so angry. And it's just because of that name, really. Just, and... Alex: You think you got angry? How much older was I than him I got so mad! because I remember LAN parties where he was playing too. Josh: yeah yeah he was good Alex: at the church 4 TVs 4 different rooms extra long cables. Everyone had their own room, but you could still hear down the hall when, "No! We lost!" Josh: "Mr. Parshal!" I loved it. That... So good. Yeah. Something about... Anyway, that was it. I was like, if this is video games, then this is life. And that turned out not to be true. That's like my number 1, I think. LAN parties. Alex: Okay, if we've got time for number twos, ew, we'll go back around, but someone else. Me? Okay. My mine is way earlier than that. When I broke my leg, 8 years old. I woke up in the hospital on Christmas morning, because I broke my leg on Christmas Eve. And it was weird. I was disoriented. But you know, there were presents I unwrapped, I think I remember unwrapping a model of a submarine, like a plastic 150 piece model or something like that, that I assume I put together later. I don't remember because I guess video games was what I was all about after this. But I also remember this tiny little Radio Shack Christmas tree that was a PCB. Josh: Yeah, that sounds really familiar. Alex: PCB is like a computer board. Josh: Yeah, printed circuit board. Alex: Motherboard, circuit board, whatever. And it had giant fatty red LEDs all over it. And a switch. So like a lot of PCBs are green. So the tree was green because it was just a bare PCB with these lights all over it. It had a switch. You just turn it on. I don't know where it came from. Josh: I totally remember that though. Jacob: I have no clue. Lizzie: I wasn't alive. Jacob: Right. Naturally. Alex: But eventually, they wheeled in a Toys R Us cart that had a CRT on it and a Super Nintendo. And they kind of had paneling all over it so that it kind of sort of looked like an arcade machine. And it was clear that this was from Toys R Us, so that you wanted to go to Toys R Us later, I guess. But it had Star Fox in it. And I just laid in bed with an IV in my wrist because they couldn't get me anywhere else for some reason. I had bad veins apparently, but I didn't care. I didn't care how much it burned with that IV in my wrist. I played that Super Nintendo game. I don't know how long. Memories are not great from that period of time, but I think that might have been where I learned to like deal with trauma. Lizzie: Yay!! Alex: Like

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #015, The Calamitous Coastal Caper, after much waiting and anticipation the Brothers introduce their Sister! And, she's a sister after Josh's own heart. We're not saying it's because of aliens, but... by now you should know it's because of aliens. Are they real and billions of dollars are being spent studying them without Congressional oversight? Or, are aliens not real and billions of dollars are being spent on golden toilet seats without Congressional oversight? You be the judge. But if you need help, you can always call Jared. He is in fact the Hero Bonnie Tyler has been looking for. Visit our website for merch and other brother goodness. Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): "Today, we are not just debating the existence of UAPs, we are deliberating on the principles that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability." See the full session of the 26 July 2023 Congressional hearing on UAPs. Read the UAP Task Force's unclassified preliminary assessment published 25 June 2021. Octopus DNA? What does that have to do with aliens? Well, according to Scientific American, in a-totally-not-taken-out-of-context quote, octopus are "...alien[s]...". So, there ya have it. The article that started it all... again... Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. Yep, them again. Watch the NatGeo show UFOs: Investigating the Unknown now, on Disney+ Transcript: The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API: [00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother [00:00:39] Another Brother Theme Song [00:00:58] Stewnerds Segment Alex: So what are we talking about today? Josh: I'm not going to say it's aliens. But it's aliens. Alex: And we've got a guest who was on an unpublished episode first, but now is gonna be on this published episode. Josh: Yay. Alex: Our sister Liz. Josh: Cue the clap track. Alex: Yay. Josh: Yes, Liz was a part of our first failed recording. Lizzie: It's cause I was there. Josh: No, and we finally convinced her to come back and To help help with a topic that is always near and dear to my heart. I know what you're thinking no It's not that I have no idea what you're thinking actually, but it's aliens. Yeah, so Liz what cool thing just happened? Lizzie: I don't actually know what it's called. It was a Congress hearing about aliens. Josh: Yeah, it was. Let me find, I can't remember which subcommittee it was. Something about, for some reason, oh, it was the compliance and oversight, oh, the oversight committee and accountability. Alex: About aliens? Literally about aliens or about UAP? Lizzie: UAP Josh: So the committee is the House or Senate committee on oversight and accountability. Alex: But the hearing is on? Josh: UAP. Alex: UAPs. Josh: As rolled under the subcommittee on national security Alex: and is it UAP or UAPs for plural? Lizzie: UAPi Alex: because you don't put an S at the end of phenomenons though it should be UAP singular and plural, right? Josh: Yeah. It's all encompassing. Alex: I said that wrong Josh: just like the phenomena itself. For some background This is for anyone who listens that has not seen this or heard of this. The UAP hearings were first held on July 26, 2023. So as of this recording, that was a couple days ago. And they were attended by David Grusch, who's a former military intel officer who became a whistleblower and told House lawmakers that Congress is being kept in the dark about unidentified anomalous phenomena. That's your UAP right there. David Grusch alleged at the hearing that executive branch agencies have withheld information about the mysterious objects for years. Grusch served as a representative on 2 Pentagon task forces investigating UAP until earlier this year. So he was on the UAP task force, which our friend Travis from that TV show of notoriety Alex: Skinwalker Ranch Josh: Skinwalker Ranch. was also on that test force, right? Lizzie: Is he our friend now? Josh: Oh yeah, Travis and us go way back. Yeah, I mean if you just say it Lizzie: enough? Josh: enough, it becomes true. So 1 of the most jaw-dropping things that David told Congress was he informed them of a multi-decade long UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that the US government has been executing. He said he was denied access to those programs when he requested access and he accused the military of misappropriating funds to shield these operations from congressional oversight. He later said he had interviewed officials who had direct knowledge of aircraft with non-human origins. We don't call it extraterrestrial anymore or alien. I guess the new Vogue term is non-human intelligence. Alex: It's more PC. Josh: And so-called biologics were recovered from some craft, which I don't know if that's a real word? But- Alex: no actually that sounds more governmental military, you know speak Josh: yeah Lizzie: basically they have aliens though. Josh: Yeah, you'd think that's kind of what it sounds like Alex: so I guess it is about aliens in the end. Lizzie: Yeah. Though they say non-humans. Josh: Right well I think he said non-human biologics. Lizzie: Yeah. Alex: Right Josh: the Congress lady Congresswoman Luna she first said I think you know her staffers probably prepared her But I think she asked him and she found you know extraterrestrial biologics right? and then he reiterated the phrase biologics. It's Kind of strange, but that made me think you know like they didn't say bodies right, but then all these like little news entities start saying like alien body bodies of pilots or whatever. I don't remember him saying pilots I remember him saying biologics. Lizzie: No in fact somebody specifically asked so you have like them that later think even asked You have the pilots then basically? and he's like like I said earlier we have biologics and that was all he said Josh: Oh yeah, and I can't talk about it in the open Lizzie: and yeah, he said a lot Yeah, Josh: so in my mind Okay, right because there's like to stop me if I'm going Beyond the scope of what we wanted to talk about. Alex: All right, Josh: but there's kind of like 2 UFO/UAP fanbases right there's like- Alex: nuts and bolts Josh: nuts and bolts. The aliens drive the things or control them. And there's the UFO as alien. Alex: Right. Josh: Like the craft itself is a- Alex: It's not a craft. Josh: Right. Alex: It's a life form. Josh: It is the alien. Alex: Like in the movie NOPE. Spoiler alert. Josh: Oh no. Oh spoiler. Which that transformation looks a lot like the squids and octopus videos that I've seen on YouTube lately. Alex: Might have taken inspiration. Josh: Horrifying transformations. Not to mention octopus DNA. It's out of this world. But if I say too much, Shana's gonna come on as a Ghost just to fact check me on everything. So we'll leave it out. But yeah, he said biologics. So that's the question. Biology has to have some sort of like organic what we call like organic tissue or something like that. bacteria? Alex: could be that if there were pilots they incinerated themselves but we found their food Josh: Ohhhhh Alex: that's That wasn't really serious, but technically it would fit. Josh: They're like, oh no, "we're going down!" "Jimmy, pull the embolism device!" Alex: Or they have like a cyanide pill in a tooth and they just chomp down on it And it's actually an enzyme that melts them Josh: interesting. So I was thinking more along the lines of like non earth-based like bacteria Lizzie: amoebo Alex: Like maybe these craft were built in a clean room. Sterile environment. Josh: Yeah. Maybe they are remotely operated, drone-like craft, but yeah, through whatever processes of leaving and coming and going, collected some non-Earth bacteria. So just choice of words, yeah, very government, very like designed to be specific, but also vague. It's Beautiful. Alex: Well, it sounds to me just from 1 of the things that you've said that he said. It sounds like some things are at a level of classification, and, like, he knows. He understands what the levels of classification are, and he's following it, whereas beforehand, before he came out with all of this stuff, it was not being properly reported on. Like, there were things that were of a level of classification where Congress should have been made known, been made aware, it wasn't being done. But He's not gonna just hand over everything. He's not a lunatic. He's still following the correct guidelines. Josh: protocol. Lizzie: Yeah. I think that was a big part of this whole thing happening is that all these Congress men and women where like, okay, we don't know anything about this. We've tried asking to get this information. We're not allowed. Why are we not allowed? Why is this being hidden? What's going on? And yeah, these guys are all, the 1 in specific, I can't remember which 1, was very cautious, because he seemed to be the 1 that knew I guess the most and they asked so many things and the majority of what he said during that 2 hours or whatever was "I can't say that We can talk about it later in a non-public", but yeah, so. Josh: Yeah, the whole thing seems very strategic. So basically this committee needed to get these 3 guys in front, in a public open setting to get their testimonies on public record, first and foremost, and I think, and then follow it up with a SCIF-based, high classification level discussion where all the nitty-gritty details come out that the Congress members are authorized to hear. And in part, I think a lot is to do kind of, so the same reason why they got, so you're talking about David Grusch, that was Grusch. Lizzie: Yeah Josh: The reason they went with The Drive for the initial story to break the story was because the New York Times and these other news organi

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #014, The Implausible Ice cream incident, the brothers share what their favorite cartoons were growing up. Get ready for a menagerie of 80's and 90's awesomeness! But before that, of course Dragon Ball Z was discussed first! Find out what other cartoons painted their childhoods and formed who they are. And don't worry, the links below include all of the awesome original intros. Jacob then shares one of his most impressive feats ever. Yes, it involves ice cream. Check out the pictures below! Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): Dragon Ball Z AWESOMENESS! The original, good Dexter's Laboratory Rockin Swat Kats! Josh's surprising entry, Darkwing Duck. Check it out on Disney+ Biker Mice from Mars also rock Unbeknownst to us, right around the same time we recorded, Ryan Reynolds announced he's rebooting Bike Mice from Mars! Street Sharks confirms that kids shows used to rock a lot more TaleSpin is also on Disney+ The epic Thundercats. It's pretty dope animation. And who could forget Voltron! Defender of the universe We promised pictures of the pig's trough. It's big. Bigger than you're thinking. Check out its sheer size. This is right around the time where Jacob started shaking... But there's always a celebration! Transcript: The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API: [00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother [00:00:24] Another Brother Theme Song [00:00:42] Stewnerds Segment Josh: How did we start these normally? Alex: 1 of us just says, okay, cartoons! Jacob: Yeah, that's pretty much how it goes Josh: great well there it was Jacob: we're in. Dragon Ball Z! I said it! I did it first. Josh: no. all right, nope. pick a new 1. Jacob: Dexter's Lab! Alex: You wanted to do a countdown? I've got- I can't- I can't do that. I don't have 1 thing. Jacob: oh you don't? Alex: no, no way. Jacob: Okay. that's what- this is way easier than like picking a favorite song for me. Josh: So we wanted to take a trip down memory lane and remember our favorite cartoons from childhood. Alex: Or other TV shows. Josh: And or other TV shows. Jacob: Right. Josh: Dragon Ball Z! Jacob: Oh come on! I said that! Alex: yeah, I mean, yeah. It's a big 1 for us, you know? Josh: You know, and Again, I think I told you guys earlier- Alex: It was a soap opera for teenage boys. Josh: Hey. That's an offensive way of describing that, but it is correct. Jacob: It's pretty accurate. Josh: I got season 1 of Dragon Ball Z Kai. Jacob: Yeah. Josh: So good. Jacob: I've noticed that. Josh: And I'm so... Oh, yeah. Jacob: In your prime. Alex: What makes it Kai, exactly? Josh: Kai. Alex: Oh so that's without all of the filler? Josh: So the Chinese is gai 改, which is like "modified", "changed". And I guess Japanese is kai. So yeah, it means Yeah without filler Alex: without the filler episodes Josh: apparently according to Lizzie it goes back more closely to the- Jacob: You mean nothing but action? Josh: No, no, no. Jacob: What are the filler episodes? Josh: So, there's- It originally was a manga, a 漫画. Alex: A manga, yeah. Josh: And a lot of the TV show went Game of Thrones style and started deviating from the manga and started creating its own storyline. So there's a bunch of like little story arcs and things that happen that aren't in the manga and so DBZ Kai cut out anything that wasn't true to the manga and also kind of reduced a bunch of the recapping. Alex: So it's just manga canon. Josh: Manga canon made for streaming. Jacob: What saga is it? Alex: Z. All of it. Jacob: Okay, all of Z. Alex: From the beginning to the end. I mean, he got the first season. Jacob: So the first season is Frieza. Josh: No. Raditz. Alex: No, it's Vegeta. Vegeta. Jacob: Dragon Ball Z? Alex: And Raditz, yeah. Raditz. Josh: Raditz shows up. Jacob: Oh, I thought that was all the same season. Okay. Alex: Is it? Oh my gosh. Josh: There's no way. There's only like 30 something episodes in the season. Jacob: That's a lot! Josh: But there's like 12 episodes of Frieza just going, "oh, how could you?" So yeah, good show. I'm annoyed that my kids don't appreciate it Alex: yeah I can't even understand the attitude Jacob: I'm I'm certain Henry will Henry I know you're listening right now. Once I allow him to watch it, once he's old enough, he'll love it. I already know. Josh: I still love it. Jacob: It's so good. Josh: I know. It gave me so much fire. I think I was, the height of that show, once we started watching it as kids is when I discovered dad's weight bench in the garage and the weird sand-filled weight plates, you know like I wanted to be buff like Goku and so- Jacob: that's what did it Josh: -that's what started me like lifting in the garage. I failed but uh... Jacob: I daydream that I'm a Z fighter still. Alex: well that's goes to show how important this show was Jacob: It's so good! that's my top cartoon Josh: yeah I'd say top formative cartoon for me. Alex: I wish I could watch Dragon Ball Super. I don't think it's on Crunchyroll. Because that's the sequel series to Dragon Ball Z. Josh: Those guys just started getting too nuts like we're dudes and we're gonna fuse and different person Alex: well that was still in Z Jacob: Goku turns into a little, he's a kid- Josh: What??? Alex: No, that's GT. Jacob: Oh, that's GT? Alex: Now that was cut it's not canon anymore. Jacob: Super is where he goes like monkey Super Saiyan, he's same size but all furry? Alex: I think Jacob: so yeah see that's still- Alex: and eventually God Super Saiyan God and he starts fighting gods. It's called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Jacob: See that's so bad. Josh: Cause Japanese. Alex: It's Japanese, yeah. Jacob: After Dragon Ball, after the Z series, I don't care too much. Alex: But he's blue instead of gold! Josh: Oh, that's interesting. Isn't that a more of a Hindu thing? Alex: I don't know. Cause- Josh: like the Krishna god's blue Alex: are like Egyptian. He starts with an Egyptian god. Josh: Oh, interesting. Well, Yeah. That's a great show. Jacob: Oh Yeah. Alex: Yeah. Yeah. The hairless cat like. Jacob: Yes. Okay. Alex: Have you guys ever seen interviews of the voice actors for Vegeta and Goku? Jacob: No. Josh: The Japanese original? Alex: No, no, no, no. No, English. Sorry, the English dub guys. Josh: Oh, no. Jacob: Was this you or Lizzie telling us about this recently? Alex: They are freaking hilarious. They are awesome. Jacob: They're like Pip and Mary. Alex: Yeah. If they don't have a podcast of their own, they need 1 because they seem like they were, they became pretty good friends being in the recording room together- Josh: Being Saiyan brothers. Alex: -screaming. But 1 of them looks like Richard Ayoade. Even with the way he does his hair with that crazy hearted afro. Yeah, they're hilarious. You gotta look it up. Josh: Yeah, that sounds good. Alex: They're awesome, guys. Josh: That sounds fun. Lizzie was telling me the Japanese voice, voices are horrible. Alex: Goku is a woman Josh: Oh, an actual woman? Alex: Yeah, it's an actual woman. Jacob: Oh that's why he sounds like that. Alex: That makes me sound terrible but, it's just weird. Josh: Well, you expect a male voice when you're watching a male character. Jacob: Especially watching the English version. Alex: Well it's Goku! Goku for crying out loud! Josh: Yeah. That's an interesting... we'll have to ask Jared about that. Jacob: Maybe having a more feminine voice makes him feel more... I mean, he's like... He typifies honesty and... Josh: Naivety. Naivety. Alex: That too, for sure. Jacob: I mean, lots of good traits and characteristics. That's Goku. So I think maybe tapping into more feminine voice draws that out. Alex: I think what happened was she did Goku as a kid. Jacob: Oh, in Dragon Ball. Alex: Which is normal even in our cartoons. Jacob: Bart Simpson. Alex: That ladies do younger boys. Josh: Like the Rugrats. Alex: And then they just kept her on. Yeah, right. And then they kept her on. Jacob: Familiar voice. That you grew up with. Alex: I think is what I've heard. Yeah. And there's a video game that's even on the Switch, though I don't imagine the performance is particularly good on the Switch. I think it's called Dragon Ball Kakarot. I mean, there's a crap load of Dragon Ball games. Jacob: Is this the free- the open world one? Alex: Yeah. And you go through the Z saga the whole thing in that game RPG style Where like it's really it's it's open world story heavy, but you know you get little side quests that weren't necessarily in the show to grind your strength and stuff and- Josh: I thought I played it on game pass it was just a just like a Mortal Kombat fighter Jacob: must have been a different one Alex: that would have been a different game. Jacob: they do have a bunch of those too Alex: there's a ton of different Dragon Ball series of games that are all about fighting only. I can't even count how many series of games they have but Dragon Ball Kakarot is specifically the story of the Z-Saga. Josh: I like how this segment was gonna be favorite shows and it's actually just the Dragon Ball Z segment. Jacob: I was just gonna say, well this segment turned into Dragon Ball Z. Alex: Well there's a demo on the Switch if you wanna try it out. And actually, the performance wasn't so bad. But the boss fight, fighting Raditz, I couldn't do it. It was too hard. But that's cause I couldn't grind levels in the demo. Jacob: Right it was just a demo. Level up enough. Josh: I just remember being so heartbroken at Gohan, how Gohan turned out. Jacob: Yeah, that's true. Josh: And I'm like, dude. Jacob: What name moniker did he end up going by? Alex: Saiya Man. Josh: Saiya Man. Alex: But again, that's in

This Week on Another Brother: In episode #013, The Shocking Subterranean Surprise, Jared replaces Josh. You know how the old saying goes, "when the kids don't sleep, the dads don't get to record their podcast." The rest of the brothers recount what summers used to be like in simpler times. To sum it up, video games, bikes, and slurpees. Of course there were other shenanigans too and visits to the pool. Then Alex tells us about a surprising discovery while going through underground tunnels at work! Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***): 7-Eleven and Dairy Queen, just a stone's throw... *ahem* a bolder's throw(?) away from each other in Keizer, Oregon. Fantasy Star Online The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time... I mean, does this even need episode linking? Kingdom Hearts Beautifully rainy and windy Rockaway Beach, Oregon. Tillamook Cheese Factory. If you look closely enough (or just visit!) you may see a wooden ship stranded somewhere... Cannon Beach, Oregon Seaside, Oregon Willark Park, as linked to and explained in past episodes, is now called Bob Newton Park. As discussed in Episode 11's show notes, this is Willamette Mission State Park. "Mission Bottom" as the area was historically known as before becoming an Oregon state park, was a spot on the fringe of French Prairie on the Willamette River, just North of present-day Keizer, OR. For a history of the Methodist Mission to the Willamette River Valley (not Catholic mission), read this! The intersection of Wheatland and Raven, Raven Drive being the scary steep side street that severely lacked visibility with oncoming traffic. The Missionary Training Center (MTC) in Provo, Utah Transcript: The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API: [00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother [00:00:29] Another Brother Theme Song [00:00:46] Stewnerds Segment Alex: Well, Josh is sick. No, he's not sick. Jacob: No. Alex: Josh is detained. Jacob: Children. Alex: So we've got our other brother here today again, Jared. Yay. Jacob: Woo! Yeah, yeah. Woo! Jared: Thank you, large crowd. Thank you. Alex: So we wanted to do this last time, and then I think I stole the show and decided unilaterally at the last minute that we were gonna talk about Zelda. But all of us, including Jared, grew up in Oregon. So we're gonna talk this time about, like, you know, the things you did as a kid growing up in the summer in Oregon. Who wants to go first? This is kind of blind, none of us have really thought this through what we're gonna say this time. So this could be interesting. Jacob: So for us, it was all about 7-Eleven and Dairy Queen. In Keizer, they were right next to each other. Like you couldn't just throw a rock, you could throw like a boulder and hit the other one. They were that close. So we would typically, depending on the summer, we would, some summers it would be like scooters, Some summers it would be bikes, but you know we'd always get on our things and ride down together. You'd have someone who would come from Gubser neighborhood and then I'd link up onto 14th Avenue, not 14th, on Lock Haven and others would link up somewhere else and we'd all just kind of converge at some point and then we'd get to first 7-Eleven and we'd buy, you know, well I would get a donut because donuts and a Slurpee, you know, sometimes we'd get the weird rolled taquito meat things on the hot rollers. Maybe a slice of pizza. But again, Slurpee's always the Slurpee. Alex: I think those were more, nevermind, not important. Jacob: Slurpees were so cheap. And then we'd go over to DQ and we'd sit outside on DQ's tables. Alex: Oh. Ohhh. Jacob: Because by that time the sun would be far enough where they'd be in the shade from the building. And if it was really hot and we wanted to go inside, one of us would buy like an order of french fries And we'd go inside and eat all of our 7-Eleven stuff because one person bought french fries Jared: Did they ever get mad at you for having 7-Eleven stuff in there? Jacob: Not if we bought the french fries So that's what that's gonna. They did until yeah, that was right. Jared: Okay. Jacob: They did so that's what we started- Alex: Did you have to find out the hard way? Jacob: Yeah, we definitely got kicked out. And then sometimes it ended up being, sometimes we would actually buy a Sunday there even. But for the most part it was all about the 7-Eleven food. That to me this is like the thing of summer. That was it for me. There's obviously more but that's the thing that will always stand out. Riding down to DQ and 7-Eleven And everyone else pretty much had a membership to the local pool. So a lot of times, which was, which ironically, we were the ones who lived closest to the pool. I think it was just two streets down from us. Alex: Down a very dangerous hill. Jacob: The best hill. So yeah, we would spend a lot of time at the pool too. A lot of time video gaming. Alex: Like, what games? Jacob: That's a good question. Jared: What games screams summer? Jacob: Well this is an interesting one. The first one that came to my mind was Fantasy Star Online. Yeah, we all had it on GameCube. Alex: Was that multiplayer? Jacob: Yeah. Four player split screen. Had it on GameCube. It was a Dreamcast port, I think. Yeah, there were a couple summers where That was the big game for us. And then things change once you all got licenses and cars. And it just, not that it wasn't fun and good still, but I guess the childhood innocence is kind of gone once you're up to that age. It's not- different kind of memories I think for me. Alex: I don't know if that that's necessarily the case for me. Jacob: You liked the freedom? Alex: I guess I stayed a kid for a longer time. Jacob: Not that we started getting into different things, just, I don't know, something about those early years of like the preteen years, 12, 13 of, you can only get around on your bike and your scooter. To me, that was like the epitome of summer joy, for some reason. Alex: Well, I didn't get my license until I was 17. So that gave me an extra year of not having a car that maybe had an effect on that. Jacob: Oh, another thing. At that age, none of us had like cell phones. Alex: Right. Yeah. Jacob: Once I was in high school all my friends had cell phones so I feel like that also kind of changed things where they were all texting calling each other and I didn't have a cell phone. But when you were all that young and none of you had cell phones you know it's just kind of this long thing of phone tag until everyone's gotten called and you're all synced up on your plans and then you head out at a specific time and meet up. It was just different times than it is now. Alex: Yeah, my friends did not have cell phones, even as seniors in high school. Jacob: So maybe that's more the bigger differentiation there is, I wasn't the only one out of the loop. I knew everyone was as out of the loop as I was, and you all just kind of went out on faith that you were all gonna show up at 11 o'clock, you know? Alex: Right. Jacob: Whereas when I was older, I'd hop in the car and like I was no longer in contact, but everyone else was still in contact between them. Alex: Yuck. Jacob: Yeah. Alex: So they could change plans. Jacob: I mean, they never would, but. Jared: "Tell Jacob we're going at 10!" Alex: Okay. Jared. Jared: I feel the same as Jacob in that. I think of summer differently depending on the age range. Early summer, I'll skip past Arizona because summer in Arizona was boring. You just had to stay inside all day because- Jacob: Too hot! Jared: it was always at least a hundred. Jacob: When did you live in Arizona? Jared: From 5 to 8. So those summers were just being inside with the AC cranked up, trying to not go outside. Jacob: Did you guys not have a pool? Jared: No, we were the only house on our street without a pool. I've confirmed this on Google Earth, But then someone put in a pool recently. So now it is no longer, but at the time it was. Alex: So you continue to creep on these people in this house. Jared: Occasionally I get the Arizona need to creep. No, but in Oregon when I actually could go outside Summer was still a lot of water stuff. You know, so We had gotten so accustomed to go into a neighbor's house to go to their pool in Arizona that when we moved to Oregon we felt the need to go to a pool, but we didn't want to go to the public one because we were so used to just being able to go to a neighbor's house to do it. So our mom got one of those big blue inflatable pools. Alex: Like an above-ground pool? Jared: Yeah. Alex: Oh nice. Jared: That take forever to fill and pump up. Yeah. If you kick them too hard all the water sloshes out. We got one of those and so there was a lot of that, especially when I was younger, there was a lot of slip and slide stuff. Jacob: Oh yes. Jared: Especially in Arizona, which was not fun once you fell out of the Slipping Slide because then it was on to like sand or rocks. Jacob: Yeah because you didn't have grass yards there. Alex: Like pumous. Jacob: Ouch. Jared: We did have a grass yard but the grass is almost burnt so not exactly a soft landing compared to Oregon. Then as I got older like 10 or 12 it was definitely more summer's the time to get through all the games. So a lot of Ocarina of Time, a lot of Kingdom Hearts, pretty much switching back and forth on those two and always playing the Manu, getting up to a certain point and then giving up and then going to the other one. And then next summer it'd be the same thing. So it actually took me quite a while to beat either of those games. I've started them each probably 20 times. I've beaten them only a handful. That's how I used to play games though as a kid. I would just play until I got to a point where I either got bored or I hit a wall And I was like I'm doing this for fun. I'm not gonna push past this w