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Around The Coin
Author: Stephen Sargeant and Mike Townsend
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Around The Coin is a podcast exploring finance, fintech, and the future of money. Hosted by industry experts, it features deep dives into payments, crypto, banking, and disruptive innovations shaping the global economy.
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Stephen Sargeant interviews Ran Goldi, SVP of Payments & Network at Fireblocks, revisiting his earlier prediction that stablecoins would become a dominant payments rail and discussing 2025 as a breakout year for stablecoins. Rand shares lessons from algorithmic trading and First Digital’s rapid 2017 growth, followed by a severe downturn that forced him to cut the team from 70 to 7, and how founder resilience and long-term belief shaped his decisions. He argues stablecoins will keep growin...
Host Stephen Sargeant interviews Jesse Knutson, Head of Operations at Bitfinex Securities, about his path from investment banking (Barclays, Macquarie) to early Blockstream work and the Blockstream Mining Note, which he describes as an early flagship tokenized security. They discuss Liquid and the Lightning Network, why stablecoins and taxation affected Bitcoin payments, and how Bitfinex Securities (launched 2021) has grown to about $250M in assets with tokenized bonds, microfinancing bonds, ...
Join host Stephen Sargeant as he interviews Kevin Lehtiniitty, CEO and founder of Borderless.xyz, about stablecoin infrastructure and global payment flows, including the Genius Act and why stablecoins are more practical for payments than Bitcoin. Kevin explains Borderless’s branding, his early work launching TrueUSD, and how trust features like qualified custodians and attestations mattered before clear regulation. He outlines three issuance models—building on existing tokens, consortium-issu...
Stephen Sargeant interviews Natalya Thakur, CEO and founder of Knova, about how traditional financial institutions are transitioning into digital assets. Thakur recounts her early exposure to blockchain at BlackRock, where she supported initial Bitcoin ETF work and later promoted digital-asset education for women. She explains Knova’s B2B infrastructure software, which runs on-prem or cloud-agnostic inside client environments to unify traditional and tokenized assets via patented “digital twi...
Stephen Sargeant interviews Alex Svanevik, CEO and co-founder of Nansen, on how the company evolved from NFT-era analytics into an AI-native, full-stack on-chain trading product that combines real-time intelligence, execution, and portfolio tracking in one self-custodial experience. Alex discusses his AI background, Nansen’s “New Way 2030” pillars, and how agentic workflows are changing engineering and other roles. They cover Nansen’s address-labeling at scale for smart-money tracking, the sh...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on a special edition of the Around The Coin Podcast as he sits down with top industry voices to unpack the biggest crypto trends of 2025 and what’s ahead for 2026. Featuring Mouloukou Sanoh, CEO and co-founder of Mansa, the conversation explores how stablecoin infrastructure is transforming global payments, enabling instant cross-border settlement, and driving adoption across emerging markets. Mouloukou shares insights on regulation, interoperability between fiat an...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on the Around The Coin podcast as he sits down with Edward Woodford, the CEO of Zerohash. This episode delves deep into the digital asset and stablecoin infrastructure landscape, exploring how Edward built Zero Hash from the ground up, the evolution of stablecoins, and their wide-ranging use cases from payroll to prediction markets. Edward shares his unique journey from MIT to leading a billion-dollar company, provides insights into the current state and future of s...
In this episode of Around The Coin podcast, host Stephen Sargeant is joined by Matt Malloy, CEO and co-founder of TruFin Labs, to explore the world of staking, liquid staking, and yield in the digital asset ecosystem. They dive into the differences between traditional and liquid staking, the evolution of blockchain technology and smart contracts, and the current state of the market. Matt also shares insights on regulatory trends in the US, the role of institutional investors, and the future o...
In this compelling episode of Around The Coin podcast, host Stephen Sargeant sits down with Rand Hindi, the CEO of Zama, a cutting-edge company pioneering Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) for Web3 infrastructure. Discover how Zama's revolutionary technology is enabling confidential transactions on public blockchains like Ethereum and Solana, providing unparalleled privacy without compromising on security or compliance. Rand, an early investor in over 100 companies, shares insights from his ...
Join Stephen Sargeant in this episode of the Around The Coin podcast as he sits down with Joe Robinson, CEO and co-founder of Hummingbird. Discover how Hummingbird is revolutionizing the way financial institutions combat financial crimes using AI and advanced analytics. Joe provides insights into emerging trends in financial crime, shares the challenges of being a CEO, and offers valuable book recommendations for anyone in the payment tech or crypto space. They also delve into Joe’s backgroun...
Join Stephen Sargeant, your host of the Around The Coin podcast, as he dives into crypto wallets used by major merchants worldwide with special guest Yolanda Liu, co-founder of Pay Protocol. Discover Yolanda's fascinating journey from AI and holographics to revolutionizing payment services in Web3. Learn how Pay Protocol offers decentralized, self-custodian wallet infrastructure, tackling key challenges like high gas fees and security risks. Yolanda also shares insights on the evolving landsc...
In this fascinating episode of the Around The Coin podcast, host Stephen Sargeant interviews Irina Chuchkina, the Chief Growth Officer at Wallet in Telegram. The discussion dives deep into the wallet infrastructure within Telegram, covering topics like stablecoins, tokenized assets, privacy, and regulation. Irina shares insights into the user adoption strategies, financial inclusion efforts, and the potential of Telegram becoming a super app. She also discusses her experiences working in vari...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on this insightful episode of the Around The Coin podcast as he chats with Jamie Elkaleh, CMO of Bitget Wallet. Discover the intricate world of crypto wallets, from technological advancements to global marketing strategies. Jamie delves into topics like TVL, investor protection, compliance, and the expanding role of Bitget Wallet in various jurisdictions. Learn about his unique journey from sports analytics to the Web3 space, and get an in-depth understanding of how...
Join host Stephen Sargeant as he sits down with Emilio Coello, a leading product manager at Aptos Labs, in this engaging episode of Around The Coin Podcast. From his extensive background in regulatory and policy work at Bitso to his current role handling payments and stablecoins at Aptos, Emilio provides deep insights into the blockchain industry. Discover what sets Aptos apart in the competitive L1 blockchain space, their focus on institutional-grade applications, and the future of crypto pa...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on the Around The Coin podcast as he interviews cryptocurrency pioneer Joël Valenzuela, a core member of the Dash DAO. Joel shares his journey from the early days of Bitcoin to living a crypto-only lifestyle, completely disengaged from traditional fiat banking. This episode dives into the challenges and evolving landscape of using crypto exclusively, Dash's unique position in the privacy coin market, and the future of the crypto industry. Joel also discusses the sig...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on this episode of the Around The Coin podcast as he sits down with Jess Houlgrave, the CEO of WalletConnect. Discover how WalletConnect is integrating hundreds of wallets and thousands of applications to build a seamless ecosystem that connects diverse elements of the crypto world. Jess shares her insights on the future of AI agent wallets, stablecoin payments, and how WalletConnect is similar to Visa in the digital space. From her early ventures into crypto, creat...
In this episode of the Around The Coin podcast, host Stephen Sargeant sits down with Itai Turbahn, co-founder and CEO of Dynamic, to discuss Dynamic's recent acquisition by Fireblocks. Itai dives deep into the details of different types of crypto wallets, comparing Fireblocks and Dynamic, and the intricacies of wallet infrastructure in the fintech and crypto industries. He explains the importance of wallets in various applications—from payroll remittances to cross-border payments, and how blo...
Join Stephen Sargeant live from Money 20/20 with Clarisse Hagège, the founder and CEO of Dfns, on the Around The Coin podcast. For the first time, the podcast is featured at Money 20/20, discussing key topics such as cybersecurity, custody, and MPC (multi-party computation). Clarisse shares her founder's journey, their partnership with IBM, and how Dfns is addressing the needs of traditional financial institutions as they adopt digital assets. Discover insights on the current state of cyberse...
Join host Stephen Sargeant on the Around The Coin podcast, as he interviews Victor Orlovski, General Partner at R136 Ventures. Victor shares his unconventional journey from being a CTO of a major European bank to founding R136 Ventures, a firm focused on early growth stage FinTech and B2B enterprise startups. In this episode, Victor discusses the challenges and strategies for scaling startups, the rapid adoption of stablecoins in developing countries, and the future of AI in various industrie...
In this episode of the Around The Coin podcast, host Stephen Sargeant interviews Vik Arun, CEO and co-founder of Superform, a company pioneering new levels of decentralization through their innovative app. Stephen and Vik discuss the current investment landscape, the potential impact of regulations, and the technicalities of deploying blockchain technology. Vik shares his journey from engineering to finance to crypto, revealing insights about Superform's mission to make DeFi accessible and se...























