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Think art history is boring? Think again. It's weird, funny, mysterious, enthralling, and liberating. Join us as we cover the strangest stories in art. Is the Mona Lisa fake? Did Van Gogh actually kill himself? And why were the Impressionists so great? Subscribe to us here, and follow us at www.artcuriouspodcast.com for further information and fun extras. © 2023 Jennifer Dasal
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Hello, listeners! I’ve got a special surprise for you this week. I’ve been waiting to share this amazing conversation that I enjoyed recently with expat and author Joanna Moorhead about her fantastic new biography, Surreal Spaces: The Life and Art of Leonora Carrington.
The British-born artist and writer Leonora Carrington (1917–2011) is one of the vanguards in the history of women artists and the history of Surrealism. The interests of this visionary—feminism, ecology, the arcane and the mystical, the interconnectedness of everything—are now shared by many. Challenging the conventions of her time, Carrington abandoned family, society, and England to embrace new experiences and forge a unique artistic style in Europe and the Americas. In this evocative illustrated biography, writer and journalist Joanna Moorhead traces her cousin’s footsteps, exploring the artist’s life, loves, friendships, and work.
Leading readers on a personal journey across Britain, Ireland, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the United States, and Mexico, Surreal Spaces describes the places and experiences that would become etched in Carrington’s memory and be echoed, sometimes decades later, in her art and writing—whether her grandmother’s kitchen with its giant stove; a remote Cornish hideaway where she holidayed with Max Ernst, Lee Miller, and Man Ray; the Left Bank of Paris; an asylum in Santander, Spain; New York, where she lived among other European exiles; or Mexico City, her final sanctuary. “Houses are really bodies,” Carrington wrote in her novella The Hearing Trumpet. “We connect ourselves with walls, roofs and objects just as we hang on to our livers, skeletons, flesh and blood streams.”
Featuring photographs, drawings, and paintings of the spaces that so richly influenced Carrington’s work, Surreal Spaces is an intimate and vivid portrait of a fascinating artist.
About the author:
Joanna Moorhead is a British journalist and author whose critically acclaimed memoir, The Surreal Life of Leonora Carrington, chronicles her relationship with Carrington, her cousin. Moorhead writes for the Guardian, the Observer, the Times (London), and many other publications.
Please enjoy this bonus episode, featuring my discussion with Joanna. Be sure to grab your copy of Surreal Spaces from Bookshop.org, below. If you prefer Amazon, that link is below as well.
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Hello, listeners! I’ve got a special surprise for you this week. I’ve been waiting to share this amazing conversation that I enjoyed recently with expat and author Jeannie Marshall about her lovely book, All Things Move: Learning to Look in the Sistine Chapel.
What do we hope to get out of seeing a famous piece of art? Jeannie Marshall asked that question of herself when she started visiting the Sistine Chapel frescoes. She wanted to understand their meaning and context―but in the process, she also found what she didn’t know she was looking for.
All Things Move: Learning to Look in the Sistine Chapel tells the story of Marshall’s relationship with one of our most cherished artworks. Interwoven with the history of its making and the Rome of today, it’s an exploration of the past in the present, the street in the museum, and the way a work of art can both terrify and alchemize the soul. An impassioned defense of the role of art in a fractured age, All Things Move is a quietly sublime meditation on how our lives can be changed by art, if only we learn to look.
About the author:
Jeannie Marshall is a writer who has been living in Italy with her family since 2002. A nonfiction author, journalist, and former staff features writer at the National Post in Toronto, she contributes articles to Maclean's and the Walrus and has published literary nonfiction in The Common, the Literary Review of Canada, Brick, and elsewhere.
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This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: it’s our season finale, and my absolute favorite (tear-jerking!) story of the season: the epic love-and-lost story of Marina Abramović and Ulay.
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This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: we’ve re-recorded and updated our original Season 1 double-header on Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera. Check out their story here. Note that this is Part 2— you can access Part 1 here.
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This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: we’ve re-recorded and updated our original Season 1 double-header on Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera. Check out their story here. Part two is coming up in two weeks.
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Today: it’s one of the most collaborative, creative couples of the century— meet Hans (Jean) Arp and Sophie Taeuber-Arp.
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Hello, listeners! I’ve got a special surprise for you this week. I’ve been waiting to share this amazing conversation that I enjoyed earlier this spring with author Annie Cohen-Salal, all about her wonderful new book, Picasso the Foreigner (translated by Sam Taylor).
Before Picasso became Picasso—the iconic artist now celebrated as one of France’s leading figures—he was constantly surveilled by the French police. Amid political tensions in the spring of 1901, he was flagged as an anarchist by the security services—the first of many entries in an extensive case file. Though he soon emerged as the leader of the cubist avant-garde, and became increasingly wealthy as his reputation grew worldwide, Picasso’s art was largely excluded from public collections in France for the next four decades. The genius who conceived Guernica in 1937 as a visceral statement against fascism was even denied French citizenship three years later, on the eve of the Nazi occupation. In a country where the police and the conservative Académie des Beaux-Arts represented two major pillars of the establishment at the time, Picasso faced a triple stigma—as a foreigner, a political radical, and an avant-garde artist. The artist never became a citizen of France, yet he generously enriched and dynamized the country’s culture like few other figures in its history. This book, for the first time, explains how.
Please enjoy this bonus episode, featuring my discussion with Annie. Be sure to grab your copy of Picasso the Foreigner from Bookshop.org, below. If you prefer Amazon, that link is below as well.
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Today: let’s get to know artists Remedios Varo and her first husband, Gerardo Lizzaraga.
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Hello, listeners! I’ve got a special surprise for you this week. I absolutely loved this new book by author and journalist Michael Finkel, and I didn't want to wait any longer to share it with you. Finkel's latest book, The Art Thief: A True Story of Love, Crime, and a Dangerous Obsession, is about the world's most prolific art thief-- and believe me, his story is stranger than fiction.
If you’re anything like me, you love art-- and you also love a good and unbelievable true story about bad things happening to art, too. So you may have encountered the remarkable story of Stéphane Breitwieser, the world’s most prolific art thief, in Finkel’s 2019 article “The Secrets of the World’s Greatest Art Thief” (GQ). Breitwieser, along with his girlfriend who worked as his lookout, carried out more than two hundred heists over nearly eight years, stealing more than three hundred objects, until it all fell apart in spectacular fashion.
The book is out on June 27-- listen now for our in-depth conversation and preorder your copy now!
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This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: we’re homing in on the early years of Lee Miller, model and photographer, and her years spent with surrealist Man Ray.
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Today: we’re homing in on the love affairs of Robert Rauschenberg, moving from Cy Twombly and on to Jasper Johns—a series of relationships that lasted only briefly, but whose effects on modern art are still felt to this day.
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Today: we’re discussing the lives and loves of Pablo Picasso and Dora Maar.
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This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: we’re enjoying the story of one supremely confident couple, incredibly supportive of one another and individually talented, two makers who epitomized the explosion of creativity that was the Harlem Renaissance, and who helped shape American art. Meet Jacob Lawrence and Gwendolyn Knight.
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Today: we’re highlighting a powerful artist couple who taught at a landmark place at a singular moment in history—Anni and Josef Albers.
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Listeners, I heard you—a bunch of self-admitting hopeless romantics who wanted to hear more about people bound by attraction, fascination. By love. Though there are examples of romantic and sexual relationships between creators that are sprinkled throughout art history as we know it, it’s true that we have the most information about relationships from folks who lived in the last century—because we have greater access to documentation recording the lives of these people, and because, as the 20th century progressed, people—artists, perhaps especially—became more vocal about their relationships, less inhibited. Modern artists, artists especially from the first half of the 20th century, lived their art, and their relationships, out loud-- writing about them, talking about them, and sometimes even creating works of art about them.
This season, I’m rounding up stories about modern artists in love, in lust, in relationships— digging into these individuals, see how their liaisons, marriages, affairs, and connections played in or on their respective works of art, and how, if anything, they affected art history as we know it. I, for one, believe that it’s time for Modern Love.
Today: let’s enjoy learning about the surrealist life and loves of Max Ernst and Dorothea Tanning.
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Anyone familiar with Abstract Expressionism will tell you that this art movement was one where all the insiders or practitioners were more closely involved than many other art movements. Such close confines also made for some serious rivalries, too. But there were other artists who were more intimately involved with one another and their artistic process-- they were married, or were lovers. Such is the case with both Jackson Pollock and Willem de Kooning --both of whom married women who were incredible artists in their own right. Interestingly, and sadly, when these two spouses are mentioned, it’s very rare that we are treated to sincere commentary just about their works of art. More often than not, we are, instead, given explanations of how these women measure up to their (admittedly more famous) husbands, and are relegated either to a supporting role, or just plain seen as not good enough in comparison. Why is it that such talented women continue to have their posthumous careers and stories marked and shaped by their husbands?
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Hello and how are you, ArtCurious listeners! This is ArtCurious News this Week, our new short-form Friday roundup of my favorite art history updates and interesting news tidbits. Today is Friday, March 3, 2023.
This week’s stories:
New York Times: High-Profile Art Couple Offers Worst Job Ever
The Art Newspaper: The must-see exhibitions in 2023: from the biggest ever show of Vermeer paintings to a history of hip-hop
The Art Newspaper: The hunt for as many as nine elusive Vermeer paintings continues
The Art Newspaper: Revealed: Vermeer's patron was, in fact, a woman—and she bought half the artist’s entire oeuvre
ArtNews: New Moai Statue Found on Easter Island, Opening the Possibility of More to Be Discovered
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Hi there, listeners. It’s Friday, which means that it is time for ArtCurious News this Week, our short-form news roundup meant to bring you up to date on some of the latest goings-on in the realm of art history. I’m your host, Jennifer Dasal, and we’ve got some great stories for you today, Friday, February 3, 2023.
This week’s stories:
BBC: Mystery portrait likely to be Raphael masterpiece
The Guardian: Archaeologist hails possibly oldest mummy yet found in Egypt
The Daily Mail: Don't use the word 'MUMMY'... it's offensive to ancient Egyptians: Museums stop using age-old expression out of 'respect' for 3,000-year-old dead
ArtNews: Christie’s Ordered to Return Painting That Was Confiscated During World War II to Proust Heirs
The Art Newspaper: Musée d’Orsay acquires Caillebotte masterpiece thanks to €43m donation from LVMH
The Daily Mail: 'Don't take spell check for granite!' NYC officials are left red-faced by typo misspelling the name of artist Georgia O'Keeffe on plaque at Grand Central's newly unveiled $11B LIRR terminal
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For this season of ArtCurious, I’m doing something a little bit different. I’m treating you to renditions of eight of my favorite segments from Breaking Barriers: Women Artists of Renaissance Europe, my online course found exclusively at avid.fm. Every other week through January, I’ll share selections from Breaking Barriers, and encourage you that if you like it, you can purchase the whole course. Today: Another day, another nun! But Plautilla Nelli’s story is an interesting one, involving a great lost-and-found twist, and the opportunity to discuss how some artists can be “forgotten” and then rediscovered. From Breaking Barriers: Women of Renaissance Europe, please enjoy “Plautilla Nelli: Lost and Found.”
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Hi there, listeners. It’s Friday, which means that it is time for ArtCurious News this Week, our short-form news roundup meant to bring you up to date on some of the latest goings-on in the realm of art history. I’m your host, Jennifer Dasal, and we’ve got some great stories for you today, Friday, January 20th, 2023.
This week’s stories:
New York Times: After Lecturer Sues, Hamline University Walks Back Its ‘Islamophobic’ Comments
Chicago Sun-Times: Ex-Art Institute payroll manager stole more than $2 million from museum: indictment
New York Times: After 220 Years, the Fate of the Parthenon Marbles Rests in Secret Talks
The Guardian via YouTube: French mayor asks Madonna for loan of painting that once hung in city's museum
Le Figaro: Amiens : la maire supplie Madonna de lui prêter un de ses tableaux
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Awesome episode. I saw some crime scene pics and a few samples of Ray's art. There's an eerie similarity.
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