Autism and Theology Podcast

The Autism and Theology Podcast is a space where we engage with the latest conversations in the field of autism and theology, share relevant resources, and promote ways in which both faith and non-faith communities can enable autistic people to flourish. Our episodes are released on the first Wednesday of every month. We have a variety of guests who are related in some way to the field of autism and theology. Some are academics, others are people with life stories to share, and some are both! We also release CATChat every third Wednesday of the month. These are shorter and more informal episodes where your hosts will share news and give you as listeners an opportunity to ask questions and share your stories.

Christmas, Faith, and Autism with Harriet Axbey

In this episode, Krysia speaks with Harriet Axbey about autism, Christmas, and faith!The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/9f3b5aae/transcript.txtHarriet’s mum’s date recipe:Take stones out of dates. Fill with goats cheese. Wrap in sweet cured bacon - put cocktail stick in to keep together. Then cook (gas mark 6) - 15 mins or soHarriet’s books:https://www.amazon.co.uk/University-Autistic-Everything-Survive-Thrive/dp/1803882549/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=191565641012&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-Zj7T7dBXoaQ0XGObs07fhPWqzE72F0z6jDWaZc5sKZJMYnVzpWSwE38hkiktSZLbEsxDNzkmQlpkpQ7hmsC7nfczKNSMh0MpuMcBJ2Mf8jmO6DMYN1PtIRAb1VeXeu9SNqZ6rf4B55K-0l7R4skboV8TcdMDwSQGLj-WK0SPySUZ4qHa629PiTus-lW8Y1O-T-87vFSgBBkBJzaq4bEJQ.78R9oyFBWXDadxAgQtbWn8Hq1NIz3DuSoqAv5XMMOpo&dib_tag=se&gad_source=1&hvadid=779272635499&hvdev=m&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=1006688&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=14309729485423399633--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14309729485423399633&hvtargid=kwd-2313390140572&hydadcr=21607_2291951_376363&keywords=university+the+autistic+guide&mcid=778a923ee7f4309fa00a65754ce840fa&qid=1762957169&sr=8-1https://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Brother-Tom-Has-Superpowers/dp/1914424255If you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.

12-03
26:49

CATChat 27: Reflecting on the Conference

In this episode, Krysia, Ian, and Amund reflect on the Autism and Theology Conference that took place at the begining of November.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/273054cb/transcript.txt If you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.

11-19
20:41

Autistic Experiences of Christianity with Jon from 'Christianity on the Spectrum'

In this episode, Ian talks with Jon Machnee from the Christianity on the Spectrum podcast about his insights into autistic experiences of Christianity from over 600 interviews and looking at thousands of social media posts from autistic people who are or were Christian or are Christian-curious.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/aab2606b/transcript.txtListen to Christianity on the Spectrum: https://www.youtube.com/@ChristianityOnTheSpectrum-k1y/videosIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.

11-05
32:33

CATChat 26: Autism, Research, and Public Engagement

In this CATChat episode, Ian and Krysia talk about autism, research, and public engagement. They discuss different ways that they share about their research publicly and in their communities.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/7e8b9193/transcript.txtArticle by Ian: https://sojo.net/articles/opinion/why-rfk-jr-doesnt-see-image-god-autistic-peopleChurch for Everyone webinar: https://youtu.be/-X4487NfAzY?si=lupGrCnravdxSP6WKrysia's videos: https://neurodivergentbook2025.my.canva.siteRegister for the online conference: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUNkw1Qko3OUVTRVZNOTJWVjlITDhSSFpCNy4uIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.

10-15
26:09

Neurodiversity and Creative Practice with Rachel Terlop

In this CATChat episode, Zoe speaks with Rachel Terlop about neurodiversity and creative practices.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/cf7d6555/transcript.txt Rachel's website: www.mrsterlop.comTurlop Technique Examples:docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_oMBidE3IkmiTxdDWwj1J0FIDpdPQYCDokz0cis4OlI/edit?slide=id.g379e8b70ef5_0_11#slide=id.g379e8b70ef5_0_11www.tiktok.com/@terloptopia/video/7554811469347474719   https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UZqCCfH-ezrXArC9CGryVCCFD7jX3_Bq/viewThe Artist's Way: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-artists-way/julia-cameron/9781788164290Sensory Life on the Spectrum: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Sensory-Life-on-the-Spectrum/Bex-Ollerton/9781524874766Chapter in book edited by Krysia: www.igi-global.com/chapter/terlop-technique/386697#:~:text=The%20Terlop%20Technique%20is%20a%20multisensory%2C%20stimming,affirming%20painting%20process%20that%20incorporates:&text=Repetitive%20movement%20–%20Engaging%20in%20rhythmic,that%20mirror%20natural%20stimming%20behaviors.If you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.

10-01
45:53

CATChat 25: 2 years of the Autism and Theology Podcast!

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe celebrate 2 years of the podcast, reflecting on the last year and looking ahead to what they have planned for this coming year.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/e2c18781/transcript.txtArticle by Krysia:Register for the online conference: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUNkw1Qko3OUVTRVZNOTJWVjlITDhSSFpCNy4uIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.Krysia's cooling neck tube: https://www.amazon.co.uk/COMFORCE-Cooling-Wearable-Outdoor-Workers/dp/B0DYC75TSQ

09-17
17:17

Perceptual Processing and Faith with Brain Irvine

In this episode, Krysia speaks with Brian Irvine from the Centre for Research in Autism and Education. They discuss perceptual processing and faith.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/5e25cac1/transcript.txtIf you have any questions or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.Find out more about Brain: crae.ioe.ac.uk/portfolio/brian-irvine/This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell

09-03
37:18

CATChat 24: Autism and Temperature Sensitivity

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe reflect on autism and temperature sensitivity, ending on a discussion around how churches can be aware of this and support congregation members.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/dfe08f50/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell.Krysia's cooling neck tube: https://www.amazon.co.uk/COMFORCE-Cooling-Wearable-Outdoor-Workers/dp/B0DYC75TSQ

08-20
17:00

Writing a Neurodivergent Fictional Character with Luke Aylen

In this episode, Ian speaks to Luke Aylen, a PhD candidate studying theology and children's book author. In the episode, they discuss his book The Forgotten Palace, focusing on his neurodivergent lead character.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4c1d67cc/transcript.txtIf you have any questions or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.Purchase the book here: https://spckpublishing.co.uk/the-forgotten-palaceThis podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russell

08-06
33:16

CATChat 23: Mental Health Series Reflections

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe reflect on out autism and mental heath series.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/bb20c233/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Ru

07-16
22:09

Autism, Diagnosis, and Mental Health with Grant Macaskill

In this episode of our mental health series, Zoe is joined by Grant Macaskill to discuss autism, pathways to diagnosis, and mental health. He specifically talks about funding cuts, barriers to diagnosis, and responses to concerns about overdiagnosis. The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/db240881/transcript.txtIf you have any questions or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.Grant Macaskill, Autism and Church: www.baylorpress.com/9781481311250/autism-and-the-church/Grant Macaskill, Long Covid lecture: https://youtu.be/BMZ9UzrhWDkThis podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly RussellMental Health HelplinesC.A.L.L: Website: https://www.callhelpline.org.uk/; Telephone: 0800 132 737; Text: Text help to 81066CALM: Website: https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/get-help/; Telephone number: 0800 58 58 58SHOUT: Website: https://giveusashout.org/ Text: Text ‘SHOUT’ to 85285Dyslexia Scotland Helpline: 0344 800 8484Brittish Dyslexia Association Helpline: 0333 405 4567US National Suicide Helpline: 988Prosper: https://www.prosperhealth.io/

07-02
51:40

CATChat 22: Autism and Tiredness

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe continue our mental health series with a discussion on autism and tiredness.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/cd1e5ef2/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.National Autistic Society: www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/mental-health/autistic-fatigue/autistic-adults This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Ru

06-18
21:34

Anxiety and the Autistic Experience with Maddy Schofield and Cody Crawshaw

In this epside of our mental health series, Zoe is joined by Maddy Schoield and Cody Crawshaw to discuss anxiety and the autistic experience.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/87b171c9/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.Maddy: @maddygracehope on Instagrammaddygracehope.substack.com/Cody: @codycrawshaw on BlueskyThis podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly RussellMental Health HelplinesC.A.L.L: Website: https://www.callhelpline.org.uk/; Telephone: 0800 132 737; Text: Text help to 81066CALM: Website: https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/get-help/; Telephone number: 0800 58 58 58SHOUT: Website: https://giveusashout.org/ Text: Text ‘SHOUT’ to 85285Dyslexia Scotland Helpline: 0344 800 8484Brittish Dyslexia Association Helpline: 0333 405 4567US National Suicide Helpline: 988Prosper: https://www.prosperhealth.io/

06-04
50:33

CATChat 21: Reflections on Autism and Masking

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe discuss our latest episode with Amy Pearson on Autism and Masking.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/67b95381/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on social media @autismtheology.Register for the webinar: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUMlNRRklWUTJaR1NFT1ZTU1VNNTdWTFBBWC4uEpisode with Steven Owens: Autism and Theology Podcast | Steven Owens: An online community for autistic ChristiansThis podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly RussellMental Health HelplinesC.A.L.L: Website: https://www.callhelpline.org.uk/; Telephone: 0800 132 737; Text: Text help to 81066CALM: Website: https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/get-help/; Telephone number: 0800 58 58 58SHOUT: Website: https://giveusashout.org/ Text: Text ‘SHOUT’ to 85285Dyslexia Scotland Helpline: 0344 800 8484Brittish Dyslexia Association Helpline: 0333 405 4567US National Suicide Helpline: 988Prosper: https://www.prosperhealth.io/

05-21
25:42

Autism and Masking with Amy Pearson

Krysia kicks off our Autism and Mental Health series with a conversation around autism and masking with Amy Pearson.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/c0bb0bac/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on X/bluesky @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catRegister for the webinar on the 12th June here: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUMlNRRklWUTJaR1NFT1ZTU1VNNTdWTFBBWC4uThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russel Works mentioned:Pearson, A., & Rose, K. (2023). Autistic Masking: Understanding Identity Management and the Role of Stigma. Pavillion Press: https://pavpub.com/health-and-social-care/health-autism/autistic-masking-understanding-identity-managementWharmby, P. (2024). Untypical: How the World Isn’t Built for Autistic People and What We Should All Do About it. Mudlark: https://www.waterstones.com/book/untypical/pete-wharmby/9780008529307Waldock, K. E. (2023). The Impossible Subject: Belonging as a Neurodivergent in Congregations. Journal of Disability & Religion. pp. 568-583: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23312521.2023.2249452The Impossible Subject. Autism and Theology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5lJcaw6odZ0YFn9PgvOv64?si=0wbGaoKzRa6MDHAHfdvxLwKieran Rose’s website: https://theautisticadvocate.com/Mental Health HelplinesC.A.L.L: Website: https://www.callhelpline.org.uk/; Telephone: 0800 132 737; Text: Text help to 81066CALM: Website: https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/get-help/; Telephone number: 0800 58 58 58SHOUT: Website: https://giveusashout.org/ Text: Text ‘SHOUT’ to 85285Dyslexia Scotland Helpline: 0344 800 8484Brittish Dyslexia Association Helpline: 0333 405 4567US National Suicide Helpline: 988Prosper: https://www.prosperhealth.io/

05-07
37:31

CATChat 20: Mental Health and Neurodiversity Series Introduction

In this CATChat episode, Ian, Krysia and Zoe introduce our upcoming 3 month series on Neurodiversity and Mental health. The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/ff2bac3a/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on twitter @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly RusselHelplines mentioned:C.A.L.L: Website: https://www.callhelpline.org.uk/; Telephone: 0800 132 737; Text: Text help to 81066CALM: Website: https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/get-help/; Telephone number: 0800 58 58 58SHOUT: Website: https://giveusashout.org/ Text: Text ‘SHOUT’ to 85285Dyslexia Scotland Helpline: 0344 800 8484Brittish Dyslexia Association Helpline: 0333 405 4567US National Suicide Helpline: 988Prosper: https://www.prosperhealth.io/

04-16
23:13

Intersectionality, Complex Identity, and Liberative Ethics with Rudolph Reyes

In this episode, Ian is joined by Rudolph Reyes to discuss intersectionality, complex identity, and liberative ethics. He shares his experience as someone who's a "multi neurodivergent Latino" and talks about the ways race and disability justice are connected.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4475035f/transcript.txtMiguel de la Torre: http://drmigueldelatorre.com/Alyssa Hillary [Zisk]: https://yesthattoo.blogspot.com/ https://www.assistiveware.com/blog/person/alyssa-hillary-zisk)  https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=O55BzwcAAAAJ&hl=en.If you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on twitter @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catRegister for the webinar on the 12th June here: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUMlNRRklWUTJaR1NFT1ZTU1VNNTdWTFBBWC4uThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russel 

04-02
39:02

CATChat 19: The Fruits of the Spirit and Neurodiversity

In this CATChat episode, Krysia and Zoe answer a listener question about neurodiversity and fruits of the spirit.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/fda76080/transcript.txtIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on twitter @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russel Articles mentioned:Grant Macaskill, Joy and Autism: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23312521.2020.1750535John Swinton, Autistic Love: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1558/prth.v5i3.259Autistic love and relationships webinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wbWPTwg7wMRegister for Religion, Disability and Neurodivergence Conference: https://www.britsoc.co.uk/events/key-bsa-events/religion-disability-and-neurodivergence-reflecting-on-the-socrel-response-day-2025/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI_-v5leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYiUdgEaA8JTEQjnjXRsee94dZO2COwOIZATN57r051RqtU8ku8a6ufnSw_aem_ABbNUpWQJ0Zx2Acp1xKruw

03-19
29:55

Interdisciplinary Research in Autism and Religion with Katy Unwin

In this episode, Krysia speaks with Katy Unwin about her interdisciplinary research on autism, worship, and the senses.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/a557fae9/transcript.txtVisit the website to learn more about the project: www.autismchurch.comIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on twitter @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russel 

03-05
31:23

CATChat 18: Autism, Neurodiversity and Lent

In this CATChat episode, Zoe, Krysia, and Ian discuss lent and neurodiversity.The transcript of the episode is available here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/08013989/transcript.txtRegister for the webinar on the 20th February here: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=rRkrjJxf1EmQdz7Dz8UrPzNFa7ljapNItVtbi6_NWAZUNDJaUE4zTTlMTlFDRTRWSVFZTzczSUM4Ni4uIf you have any questions, or just want to say hi, email us at cat@abdn.ac.uk or find us on twitter @autismtheology.This podcast is brought to you by The University of Aberdeen's Centre for Autism and Theology.Website: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/sdhp/catThe artwork for this podcast uses the Centre for Autism and Theology Logo, created by Holly Russel 

02-19
27:18

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