Banking on Fraudology

Banking on Fraudology is the sister podcast to the original Fraudology show — but with a laser focus on fraud challenges facing banks and credit unions. Hosted by Certified Financial Crimes Specialist Hailey Windham, each episode blends sharp analysis, real-world stories, and honest conversations. If you work in fraud, risk, compliance, or operations at a financial institution — especially where resources are limited but the stakes are high — this is your podcast.

Human Trafficking and the Fraud Fighter’s Responsibility: A Conversation with Freddy Massimi

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. In this compelling episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Widham is joined by Freddy Massimi, a certified Financial Crimes investigator and leader at Truist Bank, to explore the intersection of human trafficking and financial crime.Together, they examine how financial institutions can detect and disrupt trafficking networks, drawing from recent high-profile cases and the latest FinCEN advisory updates. The conversation highlights key red flags, such as repeated hotel bookings, shared contact information across accounts, and sudden cryptocurrency transactions that fraud and AML teams should monitor.This episode is a call to action for fraud analysts, compliance professionals, and financial crime investigators, emphasizing the importance of cross-team collaboration in combating one of today’s most urgent criminal threats.Freddy Massimi https://www.moneylaundering.com/https://theknoble.com/https://followmoneyfightslavery.org/https://darkwatch.io/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erinnordbywest_leadwithempathy-activity-7377731958514139136-t-2l?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAADL1v0gBbhR2XJWVMMFSh_-v6GWlWWiI-kIhttps://www-wrdw-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.wrdw.com/2025/09/25/child-sex-trafficking-survivors-get-5m-settlement-ga-hotel/?outputType=ampAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

10-01
38:55

Small FIs & the New NACHA Fraud Monitoring Rules (Phase 1)

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. The latest episode of Banking on Fraudology tackles a critical issue facing financial institutions: new ACH fraud monitoring requirements. Host Hailey Windham expertly guides listeners through NACHA's upcoming rule changes, offering a comprehensive breakdown tailored for small banks and credit unions. Windham delves into the nuances of the two-phase implementation, explaining how institutions can prepare for the March 2026 deadline without breaking the bank. She clarifies key concepts like "false pretenses" and the shift away from "commercially reasonable detection systems" to risk-based processes. The episode provides a wealth of practical advice, from conducting risk assessments and setting transaction baselines to developing effective response procedures. Windham also shares invaluable insights on vendor selection, warning listeners about common sales pitches to be wary of and offering smart questions to ask potential partners. Throughout the episode, she emphasizes the importance of tailoring monitoring approaches to an institution's specific role and risk profile. Listeners will come away with a clear action plan for compliance, including tips on policy writing and annual review processes. This episode is a must-listen for any fraud fighter looking to stay ahead of regulatory changes and strengthen their ACH fraud defenses. Tune in now to arm yourself with the knowledge and strategies you need to protect your institution and customers in the evolving landscape of ACH fraud.https://www.nacha.org/rules/risk-management-topics-fraud-monitoring-phase-1About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

09-24
22:03

From Awards to AI Attacks: Fraudology Meets in Austin

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.Fraudology and Banking on Fraudology are back together, this time recording in person from Austin, Texas!We celebrate Karisse’s recent Women in Payments Award, reflect on the power of in person connections, and then dive straight into the headlines. We spotlight how AI is reshaping fraud, from autonomous “agentic AI” attacks to fraudsters hijacking X’s Grok AI to spread malicious links.It’s part celebration, part reunion, and a deep look at what the future of fraud in the AI era means for all of us.Karisse HendrickFraudology podcast About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

09-17
33:59

Announcing Safeguard: A New Era of Fraud, Identity, and Compliance Events Begins

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. In this groundbreaking episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham introduces an exciting new event that promises to revolutionize how the fraud, identity, and compliance industry approaches AI. Mitul Parmar, co-founder and CEO of Safeguard, joins to announce the launch of the first AI Deep Dive Retreat, taking place May 3-6, 2026 at the prestigious Broadmoor resort in Colorado Springs.This exclusive gathering aims to put fraud, identity, and compliance professionals at the center of the AI conversation, addressing the growing need for a focused community to navigate the rapid advancements in AI technology. Mitul explains how Safeguard fills a crucial gap in the industry, offering an intimate setting for practitioners to deeply explore AI's implications on their roles, teams, and the financial services sector at large.Mitul ParmarWebsite to Learn More & Apply: www.safeguardevent.comLinkedIn: “@Safeguard Events” (www.linkedin.com/company/safeguardevents)About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

09-10
25:55

Pause as a Service: Turning Fight, Flight, Freeze into Protection with Jen Lamont

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.Host Hailey Windham and guest Jen Lamont tackle the crucial topic of creating pauses to prevent fraud in financial transactions. The conversation centers around the concept of "pause as a service," exploring how momentary interruptions can be the key to protecting members from falling victim to scams. Jen shares her expertise on training frontline staff to recognize signs of fight, flight, or freeze responses in potential victims and guides listeners through effective strategies to help members move into a state of clarity. The episode covers a wide range of practical tools, from scripting and policy implementation to physical space utilization and emotional support for both staff and members. Hayley and Jen also discuss the importance of follow-up care for scam victims, sharing valuable resources and insights on reducing shame and empowering members to protect themselves in the future. The conversation culminates in a lightning round of essential tips, including must-have scripts for tellers, key metrics for proving the value of pause strategies to leadership, and powerful messages for victims. This episode is an invaluable resource for anyone in the financial sector looking to enhance their fraud prevention tactics and create a culture of protection within their institution. Tune in to gain actionable insights that could make the difference between a member falling victim to a scam or walking away protected.Jen L., CBSAP, CFE https://theknoble.com/https://www.iafci.org/About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

09-03
57:39

Passion, People, and Prevention: My Fraud-Fighting Chat with Stephanie Macrafic

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. In this illuminating episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with fraud prevention expert Stephanie Macrafic, to explore the fascinating intersection of human behavior and scam prevention. Fresh off her acclaimed presentation at the ACFE Global Fraud Conference, Stephanie shares invaluable insights on using behavioral science to disrupt scammer influence and protect potential victims.The conversation dives deep into Stephanie's journey in fraud prevention, from her early days as a bank teller to becoming a sought-after industry speaker. She reveals how her background in psychology informs her innovative approach to combating fraud, focusing on understanding the emotional and cognitive factors that make people vulnerable to scams. Stephanie and Hayley discuss practical strategies fraud fighters can implement immediately, such as creating moments of pause for potential victims and honing active listening skills to build trust and gather crucial information.Listeners will gain a new perspective on the human element of fraud prevention, learning how to spot behavioral tells that may indicate someone is being coached by a scammer and why industry collaboration across sectors is vital for staying ahead of evolving criminal tactics. Whether you're a seasoned fraud professional or new to the field, this episode offers actionable advice for strengthening your organization's defenses against scams. Don't miss this opportunity to level up your fraud-fighting skills - tune in now and join the fight against financial crime!Host Bio - Hailey Windhamhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-macrafic/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephanie-macrafic_acfe2025-gratitude-fraudfighters-ac[…]m=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAADL1v0gBbhR2XJWVMMFSh_-v6GWlWWiI-kI

08-27
41:08

Inside the Ring: PJ Rohall on Fraud Fight Club’s Biggest Hits & What’s Next

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. In this electrifying episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with PJ Rohall, co-founder of About Fraud & Fraud Fight Club , to unpack the knockout success of their recent "Round Two" conference. PJ gives listeners an insider's look at what it takes to organize a fraud-fighting event that breaks the mold of typical industry gatherings. From curating diverse speaker lineups to crafting an atmosphere that feels more like a high-energy boxing match than a stuffy conference, PJ reveals the strategy behind Fraud Fight Club's unique approach.Listeners will gain valuable insights into the challenges of building authentic community in the fraud prevention space, balancing serious professional content with a fun, engaging atmosphere, and empowering voices that might not typically take center stage at industry events. PJ shares candid reflections on unexpected emotional moments, logistical hurdles overcome, and lessons learned that will shape "Round Three."The conversation also dives into broader themes around burnout in fraud-fighting careers, the need for more public awareness around scams, and PJ's vision for enlisting celebrity voices as "scamfluencers" to amplify fraud prevention messages. Whether you're a fraud-fighting veteran or new to the field, this episode offers an inspiring look at how passion, creativity and community can breathe new life into the battle against financial crime. Don't miss PJ's call for speaker and music suggestions for the next Fraud Fight Club - this is your chance to help shape the future of fraud prevention gatherings!PJ ROHALL About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://www.fraudfightclub.com/https://www.about-fraud.com/

08-20
58:59

From $70K Heists to Fake IDs: Fraud Fighter Takeaways You Can Use Today

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network. In this eye-opening episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham dives deep into five recent fraud cases that every financial institution needs to know about. From a $70,000 account drain to a multi-branch fraud attempt, each story serves as a masterclass in what to do - and what not to do - when it comes to protecting customers and institutions from increasingly sophisticated scams.Windham breaks down a troubling case where a 74-year-old man had to go public just to get reimbursed after malware-enabled hackers drained his account. She explains why relying too heavily on device matching for authentication can backfire, and offers practical advice for layering security measures. The episode also covers FinCEN's recent industry-wide meeting on digital asset fraud, highlighting the critical need for collaboration between banks, regulators, and law enforcement to stay ahead of global fraud networks.Listeners will gain invaluable insights into improving fraud prevention processes, from handling fake ID attempts and implementing "pause point" forms for risky transactions, to enhancing cross-branch communication. Windham's engaging storytelling and actionable takeaways make this a must-listen for anyone in banking, fintech, or fraud prevention. Whether you're a seasoned fraud fighter or new to the field, you'll come away with strategies you can implement immediately to strengthen your institution's defenses. Don't miss this chance to stay ahead of the latest fraud trends - tune in now and join the fight against financial crime.About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/ https://dailyhodl.com/2025/08/10/bank-of-america-refuses-to-reimburse-customer-after-hackers-hit-account-drain-70000-report/https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/readout-fincen-convenes-public-private-partnership-promote-innovation-andhttps://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/police-investigate-fraud-colorado-banks-88k-debt-boulder-account/

08-13
23:19

Part 2 - Ask Us Anything: Fraud-Fighter Telethon w/ Frank Mckenna

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham and fraud expert Frank McKenna dive deep into the world of financial crime prevention. The duo tackles a wide range of questions from fraud fighters across the industry, offering invaluable insights and practical advice. From discussing the challenges of cross-industry collaboration to exploring the latest trends in synthetic identity fraud, Hailey and Frank leave no stone unturned.One of the episode's highlights is their candid conversation about creating a fraud-savvy culture within financial institutions. They emphasize the importance of recognizing and rewarding employees who contribute to fraud prevention efforts, sharing creative ideas like Hailey's "Scooby Doo" themed awards. The hosts also address the rising threat of internal fraud, stressing the need for robust monitoring systems and a balance between trust and control.For those starting their careers in fraud prevention, Hailey and Frank offer encouraging words, urging newcomers to inject their personality into their work and trust their instincts. They also discuss the impact of AI and deepfakes on the fraud landscape, and provide strategies for smaller institutions to compete with big banks in fraud detection. Whether you're a seasoned fraud fighter or just entering the field, this episode is packed with actionable insights to enhance your fraud prevention efforts.Frank McKennahttps://frankonfraud.com/About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

08-06
56:01

From Karaoke to Comments: Your Chance to Shape Fraud Policy

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this eye-opening episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham dives into a critical development in the financial fraud prevention landscape. Fresh off a cruise where she performed her fraud-prevention parody of Meghan Trainor's "No," Hailey shifts gears to discuss a major opportunity for fraud professionals to shape future policy. The CFPB, NCUA, FDIC, OCC, and the Fed have issued a joint request for information, seeking input from industry experts on how to address rising threats in digital payments fraud.Hailey breaks down the key areas regulators are focusing on, including effective fraud prevention tools, barriers to data sharing, industry collaboration, consumer education, and regulatory gaps. She emphasizes the importance of credit unions and regional banks participating in this conversation, as their unique perspectives and challenges need representation. The host provides actionable advice for listeners, encouraging them to read the summary, discuss it with their teams, and submit comments before the September 18 deadline.This episode serves as a rallying cry for fraud fighters to seize this rare opportunity to influence regulatory policy directly. Hailey's passion for the subject shines through as she urges listeners to elevate each other's voices and show up "smart and aligned." Don't miss this chance to make your experience count in shaping the future of fraud prevention. Listen now and prepare to make your voice heard in this crucial industry conversation.https://americascus.widen.net/view/pdf/e03c71f0-112b-4e61-a57b-b6f8bffb6911/Interagency[…]&_hsmi=368732194&utm_content=368732194&utm_source=hs_emailAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

07-30
12:22

$1.2 million related to fraud with Erin O'Loughlin & Brian Svoboda-Kindle

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with Erin O'Loughlin and Brian Svoboda-Kindle from the Association of Certified Financial Crime Specialists (ACFCS) to discuss the critical importance of ongoing education and collaboration in the fight against financial crime. As the financial landscape rapidly evolves, fraud and compliance professionals must stay ahead of emerging threats. The guests highlight how ACFCS is breaking down silos between fraud, AML, cybersecurity and compliance to create a community of experts learning from each other. They dive into the comprehensive benefits of ACFCS membership, including access to cutting-edge training, webinars, virtual events, and networking opportunities. The conversation explores the value of the Certified Financial Crime Specialist (CFCS) credential in providing a broad understanding of financial crime risks beyond just AML or fraud. Listeners will gain insights into how this certification can enhance their skills and career prospects. The episode also previews the upcoming FinCrime Virtual Week in August, promising a wealth of expert sessions on topics ranging from cryptocurrency risks to human trafficking. Whether you're new to financial crime prevention or a seasoned professional, this episode offers valuable guidance on leveling up your expertise and making a bigger impact. Erin O'Loughlin Brian Svoboda-KindleAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

07-23
59:34

Part 1 - Ask Us Anything: Fraud-Fighter Telethon w/ Justin Davis and Frank Mckenna

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this special Telethon episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham is joined by fraud-fighting heavyweights Frank McKenna and Justin Davis for a lively Q&A session tackling the biggest questions in fraud prevention. The episode kicks off with a surprise appearance by Karisse Hendrick, setting the tone for an informative yet entertaining discussion.Guests call in with hard-hitting questions, including how to detect synthetic identities without advanced technology, what industry pressure is being applied to P2P payment apps, and what keeps these fraud experts up at night. Frank McKenna shares his deep concerns about human trafficking in Cambodia tied to fraud operations, while Justin Davis highlights the growing threat of first-party fraud. The experts also provide practical advice on presenting fraud data effectively to stakeholders and executives.Throughout the episode, the hosts blend humor with serious insights, even fielding some prank calls along the way. Listeners will gain valuable knowledge on emerging fraud trends, detection techniques, and communication strategies. Whether you're a seasoned fraud fighter or new to the field, this episode offers something for everyone.https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-davis-cfe/https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankmckenna/About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

07-16
38:36

Defending Financial Freedom with Kenny Aycock

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this special 4th of July episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with Kenny Aycock, a trusted risk professional and manager of risk management at All South Federal Credit Union. With over two decades of experience on federal task forces investigating violent crime and gang activity, Kenny brings a unique perspective to the world of financial fraud prevention.The conversation explores Kenny's journey from law enforcement to credit union risk management, highlighting how his investigative skills translate to protecting members' financial freedom. Kenny shares insights on the biggest fraud threats facing credit unions today, including impersonation scams, online account takeovers, and elder financial abuse. He emphasizes the importance of collaboration within the industry and with law enforcement to stay ahead of evolving fraud tactics.Listeners will gain valuable advice on defending against scams, educating the community, and leading fraud-fighting teams. Kenny's passion for protecting people shines through as he discusses using cutting-edge technology alongside old-school investigative techniques. Whether you're a fraud professional or simply interested in safeguarding your finances, this episode offers an inspiring look at the critical work being done behind the scenes to preserve financial freedom. Kenny AycockAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

07-09
35:04

From Cannabis Banking to Cyber Risk: Inside CU Risk Ops with Bryan Watkinson

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this illuminating episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with Bryan Watkinson, a risk management expert from Affinity Federal Credit Union. Bryan shares his wealth of experience in operational risk, fraud prevention, and the emerging field of cannabis banking. The conversation kicks off with a look at Bryan's popular "Fraud Friday" social media posts, which break down complex fraud threats in an accessible way. Bryan reveals how these posts have become a rallying cry for other departments to embrace risk education.The discussion then dives into the challenges of managing multiple risk verticals in a mid-sized credit union. Bryan offers invaluable insights on prioritizing threats, from cybersecurity concerns stemming from global conflicts to the day-to-day battles against check fraud and account takeovers. He emphasizes the importance of staying vigilant without overreacting, sharing strategies for keeping teams at a steady "level 4 or 5" of alertness. One of the episode's highlights is Bryan's candid take on cannabis banking, detailing how Affinity navigated this complex new terrain.Listeners will come away with practical advice on making risk relatable across an organization, fostering transparency, and building a strong risk culture. Bryan's approach of "showing up" to branches with donuts and real conversations exemplifies his philosophy of hands-on leadership. Whether you're a seasoned risk professional or new to the field, this episode offers a masterclass in balancing vigilance with approachability. Don't miss Bryan's parting words on the power of networking and continuous learning in the fight against fraud. Tune in to gain insights that will elevate your risk management game and protect your institution.Bryan WatkinsonAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

07-02
40:34

Banking on Fraudology E56 - WTF, Seriously — Why the U.S. is Falling Behind in the Fight Against Fraud - with Matt O’Neill

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this eye-opening episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with Matt O'Neill, a 25-year veteran of the US Secret Service and former managing director of their global cyber investigative operations. O'Neill shares his sobering perspective on how the United States is falling behind in fraud prevention compared to other nations. Drawing from his extensive experience leading high-stakes global takedowns and coordinating multinational operations, O'Neill highlights the urgent need for modernization in information sharing and collaboration between law enforcement and financial institutions.The discussion delves into the limitations of current systems like 314A and 314B, which were groundbreaking when introduced but have failed to keep pace with evolving criminal tactics. O'Neill argues for leveraging modern technology to enable real-time information sharing and close critical gaps that criminals exploit. He also emphasizes the need for cross-industry collaboration, pointing out how social media platforms and telecommunications companies inadvertently enable fraud at massive scales.Perhaps most alarmingly, O'Neill reveals how other countries are innovating faster and treating fraud with greater urgency than the US. He advocates for the creation of a national anti-scam center and increased funding for training state and local law enforcement. The episode concludes with a powerful call to action for listeners to demand better from policymakers and industry leaders. Don't miss this opportunity to hear from one of the most respected voices in the field – listen now and join the fight for a safer financial future.Matt O'NeillMatt's Linkedin PostAbout Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

06-25
54:43

The High Cost of Low Trust: Transparency, Scams, and Survivor Truths

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this episode of Banking on Fraudology, Hailey Windham takes listeners inside the world of pig butchering scams and Operation Shamrock's efforts to combat them. Windham shares insights from her recent presentation at the ACFE Twin Cities Fraud Summit, where she and Erin West highlighted the growing threat of transnational organized crime syndicates. The episode focuses on Operation Shamrock's groundbreaking Survivor Series initiative, which brings victims' stories directly to financial institutions to identify vulnerabilities and prevent future scams.Windham recounts a particularly impactful case study of a young woman who lost $160,000 in just 10 days to a sophisticated pig butchering scheme. The scam began on a dating app and quickly escalated, with the scammer using psychological manipulation tactics to build trust and isolate the victim from her bank. Key takeaways include how scammers coach victims to lie during transaction reviews, exploit distrust in financial institutions, and structure wire transfers to avoid detection. The episode also highlights the importance of educating entire families, as the victim's mother was inadvertently pulled into supporting the scam.This episode serves as a wake-up call for banks and credit unions, emphasizing the need for greater transparency with customers about banking operations and fraud prevention measures. Windham passionately argues that financial institutions must proactively address common misconceptions about banking practices before scammers can exploit them. Listeners are challenged to consider how they can build trust and educate customers to resist manipulation attempts. Don't miss this crucial episode - tune in and join the fight against pig butchering scams.Operation ShamrockJoin now!About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

06-18
13:27

From Fraud Fighter to Force Multiplier: How Jessica Cartrette is Breaking Down Barriers

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this illuminating episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham sits down with Jessica Cartrette, Fraud Manager at Rev Federal Credit Union, to explore the power of collaboration in fighting financial fraud. Jessica shares her journey from retail pharmacy to becoming a fraud-fighting force, emphasizing how her frontline experience as a teller shaped her approach to fraud prevention. The conversation dives deep into Rev's groundbreaking "Knockout Fraud" event, which sparked a movement of cross-institutional cooperation in South Carolina.Jessica reveals the strategies she used to break down silos within her organization, from engaging marketing teams to partnering with IT and cybersecurity departments. She stresses the importance of educating all departments about fraud risks and empowering frontline staff through targeted training. The episode highlights innovative initiatives like the South Carolina Fraud Ambassador Roundtable and Rev's "Shielding Seniors" program, showcasing how local efforts can have far-reaching impacts.Listeners will gain practical insights on building fraud committees, improving interdepartmental communication, and leveraging partnerships to stay ahead of evolving threats. Jessica's passion for community education and her commitment to collaboration over competition shine through, offering inspiration for fraud fighters at all levels. Whether you're a seasoned professional or new to the field, this episode provides actionable strategies to enhance your fraud prevention efforts. Tune in to discover how working together can create a more resilient financial ecosystem and learn why Jessica believes that in the fight against fraud, we're truly all in this together.Jessica on LinkedInhttps://www.revfcu.com/adulting/https://www.revfcu.com/knockout-fraud/About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

06-04
55:41

From Passion to Purpose — and the Peril of Insider Fraud

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this powerful episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham takes listeners on a journey through the world of fraud prevention. She begins by sharing exciting news about the launch of her consulting firm, CU Fight Fraud LLC, dedicated to serving credit unions and community banks in their fight against fraud. Windham explains her passion for supporting these often overlooked institutions and highlights the importance of tailored fraud strategies.The episode then takes a darker turn as Windham discusses a shocking case of internal fraud at Altana Federal Credit Union. She breaks down how the credit union's operations manager, entrusted with fraud prevention, exploited her position to embezzle over $65,000. This case serves as a stark reminder of the importance of internal controls and oversight in financial institutions.Hailey offers valuable insights and actionable steps for preventing internal fraud, including regular access reviews, random audits, peer review processes, and fostering a culture of transparency and accountability. She emphasizes the need for collaboration between fraud teams and internal audit departments. The episode concludes with a powerful call to action for fraud fighters, urging them to remain vigilant, ask tough questions, and work together to build stronger defenses against both external and internal threats.Tune in to Banking on Fraudology for an eye-opening discussion on the importance of internal fraud prevention and the passion that drives the fight against financial crime.https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/former-altana-federal-credit-union-employee-sentenced-more-1-year-prison-embezzlement-0https://www.cufightfraud.com/------------------------------------About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

05-21
14:16

Anatomy of a Modern Scam: Lessons from a Personal Story (Pt.2 with Andrew Austin)

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this powerful episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham continues her conversation with fraud expert Andrew Austin about a devastating crypto scam that targeted his 81-year-old father. Andrew provides a detailed breakdown of how the scam unfolded, exposing critical failures across multiple systems and organizations that allowed it to succeed. From compromised computers sold on online marketplaces to inadequate fraud detection at banks and crypto ATMs, Andrew highlights the cascade of breakdowns that left his father vulnerable.The discussion dives deep into the technology and human elements that enable these scams, including remote access software, social engineering tactics, and a lack of awareness among frontline workers. Andrew shares his frustrating experiences trying to report the crime and work with law enforcement, revealing major gaps in how financial crimes are handled. He emphasizes the need for better training, more empathy for victims, and increased collaboration across the fraud-fighting community.Throughout the episode, Andrew offers valuable insights on how financial institutions, crypto companies, and law enforcement can improve their fraud prevention and response. He advocates for more robust device intelligence, behavioral biometrics, and transaction monitoring, as well as policy changes to protect elderly customers. The conversation concludes with a call for fraud fighters to spread awareness whenever possible and take a more empathetic, victim-centered approach. For anyone working in fraud prevention or interested in protecting themselves and loved ones from scams, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to gain critical knowledge that could help stop the next fraud before it happens.------------------------------------About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

05-14
34:37

Trust, Technology, and Tragedy: Anatomy of a Modern Scam

Banking on Fraudology is part of the Fraudology Podcast Network.In this powerful episode of Banking on Fraudology, host Hailey Windham celebrates the podcast's one-year anniversary with special guest Andrew Austin, a seasoned fraud fighter and Head of Fraud Prevention at Sardine. The conversation takes a deep dive into the complex world of financial scams, account takeovers, and the cascading failures that often lead to successful fraud attempts. Andrew shares his extensive experience across various sectors, from military service to roles in banking, fintech, and crypto, offering invaluable insights into the evolving landscape of fraud prevention.The discussion highlights the critical importance of device intelligence and behavioral biometrics in modern fraud detection. Andrew emphasizes how knowing your customer goes far beyond traditional KYC measures, stressing the need for a dynamic view of risk that considers ongoing customer behavior. The episode also tackles the challenges of data silos within organizations and the necessity of cross-departmental collaboration in effective fraud prevention.Perhaps the most impactful segment of the episode is Andrew's deeply personal story of how his own father fell victim to a sophisticated crypto scam. This heart-wrenching account provides listeners with a stark reminder of the human cost of fraud, illustrating how even those close to fraud fighters can be vulnerable. The episode concludes with a powerful message about the lasting psychological impact of scams on victims and their families. Don't miss this eye-opening conversation that blends professional expertise with personal experience – tune in now to gain crucial insights into the fight against financial fraud.About Hailey Windham:As a 2023 CU Rockstar Recipient, Hailey Windham, CFCS (Certified Financial Crimes Specialist) demonstrated unbounding passion for educating her community, organization and credit union membership on scams in the market and best practices to avoid them. She has implemented several programs within her previous organizations that aim at holistically learning about how to prevent and detect fraud targeted at membership and employees. Windham’s initiatives to build strong relationships and partnerships throughout the credit union community and industry experts have led to countless success stories. Her applied knowledge of payments system programs combined with her experience in fraud investigations offers practical concepts that are transferable, no matter the organization’s size. Connect with Hailey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hailey-windham/

05-07
42:49

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