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A podcast about life, theology, friendships, current events, and the journey of authentic discipleship with two pastors who also happen to be lifelong friends, former college roommates, bandmates, and groomsmen in each other's weddings.
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The New Testament is full of commands for Christians to gather together regularly for encouragement, discipleship and community. Not only that, we’re told as Christians 59 separate times to honor, care, love and serve one another within the context of the Church. According to the Bible, being involved in a local church and pouring our lives out for other believers in service and love is really a big deal.
But in our context, we seem to be missing something. The average American churchgoer only attends church 1.6 times per month, or roughly two out of every five weekends. Only about 21% of regular churchgoers consistently tithe to the work of their local church, and only about 34% of them regularly serve or volunteer. Sticking with just one church seems to be a challenge for us as well, as nearly 2 in 5 churchgoers report regularly attending multiple churches, while never committing to any of them. Not only that, criticizing churches and church leaders has become a favorite pastime and trending topic on most social media platforms. Churches get critiqued in online spaces a lot like restaurants, shops, or theaters and almost anything that doesn’t meet a person’s particular preference gets noticed and called out.
Could it that we’re seeing church as a product to consume instead of a family to belong to? How might we notice that mindset in ourselves and change the way we think and interact with the local church?
As of October 8th, 2025, the U.S. government is shut down. Lawmakers in Washington are deadlocked over federal spending — House Republicans pushing for deeper cuts and stronger border security, while Democrats are pushing back, warning that essential services and federal paychecks could be delayed if an agreement isn’t reached soon. It’s another reminder of how divided and fragile things can feel politically in our country.
Meanwhile, in the Middle East, this week marks two years since the October 7th attacks- when Hamas terrorists murdered around 1,200 people in Israel and took over 250 hostages. Since then, Israel’s war in Gaza has devastated the region- with tens of thousands killed, millions displaced, and deep global tension about how peace can ever return to that part of the world.
So in this episode, we’re talking about the instability of our times — in politics, in war, in culture — and how Jesus’ words in Mark 13 remind us that none of this takes God by surprise. Nations will rise and fall, wars will come and go, but His kingdom remains unshaken.
On Wednesday, September 10, right as we were recording and releasing our last episode, political activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the campus of Utah Valley University. This was a shocking, horrifying tragedy that absolutely rocked our nation. For Gabe and I personally as pastors, this was a really big deal. The same rights that gave Charlie the freedom to share his beliefs openly on college campuses are the same ones that give Gabe and I the freedom to open the Bible every weekend and to openly share our views about what we believe it means for our congregations. To have that kind of freedom threatened in such a violent way reminds us just how fragile it is.
In the hours and days that followed, the noise was deafening: headlines everywhere, political leaders weighing in, social media flooded with grief, outrage, and, disturbingly, even celebration. The sheer volume of conversation showed just how deeply divided and volatile the climate in our country has become.
So today we’re stepping into one of the most urgent conversations in America right now: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the future of free speech, and the rise of political violence. What does this moment reveal about our nation—and what does it mean for us as followers of Christ? How do we hold fast to truth, defend freedom, and live as peacemakers in a culture increasingly marked by anger and division?
More and more people today say, “I’m spiritual, but not religious.” But what does that actually mean, and why is it so common in our generation?
 
In this episode, we explore why one in three Americans now identify as SBNR, six defining aspects of this mindset and why they matter, and why practices like crystals, energy healing, and horoscopes have become so attractive. We’ll also look at the surprising ways this trend could be good for the Church and the major challenges it presents.
 
If spirituality has become a curated experience, what happens when God doesn’t fit our custom order?
Catholics call her the Queen of Heaven. The Orthodox call her Theotokos, the God-bearer. Both traditions pray to her, sing hymns to her, and ask for her intercession.
But here’s the question: Is Mary truly meant to be our mediator—or have centuries of devotion blurred the line between honoring the mother of Jesus and worshiping her?
Where did these beliefs come from, when did they start, and how do they stack up against Scripture?
On our next episode, we’re asking: does Marian devotion deepen faith in Christ—or distract from Him?
For over 400 years, the King James Version of the Bible has shaped the English-speaking world—one could argue that it’s been the single most influential and important book in the English-speaking world. But for some Christians today, it’s more than just a trusted translation—it’s the only legitimate translation.
The King James Only movement insists that all other English translations are flawed, dangerous, or even deceptive. But where did this idea come from? Why do some believers cling so tightly to this one version?
And what does the actual history—of manuscripts, translations, and church tradition—really say? In this episode, we’ll explore the roots of the KJV-only position, the arguments that fuel it, and why a faithful reading of Scripture doesn’t have to mean speaking 17th-century English.
For years, the narrative has been the same: Christianity is dying in the West. Churches are empty. Faith is fading. Some even predicted that Christianity would be extinct in the UK by 2067. At the same time, people have looked at the younger generations—especially Gen Z—and dismissed them as spiritually disengaged, screen-addicted, and uninterested in anything deeper than memes and dopamine.
But the latest data tells a very different story. Something’s happening. Across the UK and the US, young people—especially young men—are showing up in churches, praying, exploring faith, reading the Bible, and defying the expectations everyone had for them.
On today's episode, we’re unpacking the quiet revival that no one saw coming—and why it just might reshape the future of the church.
Artificial intelligence, in a broad sense, is any task performed by a program or a machine that, if a human carried out the same activity, we would say the human had to apply intelligence to accomplish the task. Things like planning, learning, reasoning, problem solving, knowledge representation, perception, motion, and manipulation and even, to a lesser extent, social intelligence and creativity can now all be performed, to a certain extent at least, by artificial intelligence systems.
But if we’re able to develop a technology that empowers machines to do anything a human can do, does this mean that the day is coming when humans will become expendable and replaceable?
Will the lines between humanity and machine become blurred in the years to come with the development of more advanced artificial intelligence?
Should Christians use AI at all? If so, how? What are the ethics of AI in our day and age?
And how far will we go in the next ten years?
On June 12, 2025, Israel launched a series of aerial strikes (codenamed Operation Rising Lion) into Iran, targeting nuclear facilities, Revolutionary Guard command centers, missile production sites, and officials — including nuclear scientists and senior IRGC leaders — citing an imminent nuclear threat. While Israel says the goal is to dismantle Iran’s nuclear program and degrade its missile capabilities, Prime Minister Netanyahu has also hinted at destabilizing President Khamenei’s regime and possibly provoking a broader regime change. 
 
Iran has responded with missile barrages toward Israel, and the conflict has displaced many civilians in Tehran amid fears of escalation . Israel’s broader strategy appears to combine military strikes, intelligence-driven sabotage, and political messaging aimed at weakening Iran’s nuclear and military posture — and potentially its government.
 
And then there’s, the involvement of the United States…
 
The U.S. has been involved diplomatically, urging de-escalation and expressing support for Israel's right to defend itself while also seeking to revive the nuclear deal with Iran, aiming to limit Iran's nuclear capabilities through negotiations. However, differing approaches and concerns from various political factions within the U.S. have complicated these efforts, with debates ongoing about the best course of action moving forward.
 
So how is this all going to shake out? Will it be over in a matter of days? Weeks? Years? Or will this further escalate into World War III?
 
Also, why are some Christians saying that the recent events are of prophetic significance, citing passages from Jeremiah 49?  
The Bible never directly mentions tobacco or caffeine. There's no verse that says, "Thou shalt not smoke" or "Thou shalt not be addicted to caffeine." Instead, we're left to discern principles from Scripture that guide us in making wise choices about our health and habits.
What does it means to honor God with our bodies and not be mastered by anything? What’s the difference between sinful actions and unwise decisions? And how does moderation and consideration for others play into our daily choices?
Let’s unpack these biblical principles and consider how they apply to our modern lifestyles.
It’s fair to say we’re in the midst of what some might call a “cannabis craze.” With legalization spreading rapidly across the U.S. and other countries, cannabis (or marijuana) and other THC derivatives are becoming more mainstream—not just for medical use, but recreationally, and even in wellness products like oils, gummies, and skincare.
 
In the U.S., cannabis/marijuana use among adults has nearly doubled in the past 20 years. Over the same course of time, daily use of cannabis has grown more than fivefold and support for legalization rose from 34% to 70%. The legal cannabis industry has exploded in size, employment, and tax revenue. Although many view cannabis as a practical savior because it’s seen as a natural, multi-use remedy that addresses chronic pain, anxiety, insomnia, and other conditions without the addictive risks of opioids or the harsh side effects of some pharmaceuticals, the rise of regular cannabis use has raised significant concerns. Concerns that are often swept under the rug and not talked about.
 
Even though the mantra, “cannabis is non-addictive” has been repeated often, the DSM-5, a reference book on mental health and brain-related conditions and disorders, has something listed called, “cannabis use disorder”. This condition has been growing rapidly, especially among young adults. Even as cannabis use and the support for its legalization are on the rise, at the same time there are growing concerns surrounding potential cognitive, mental health, and motivational impairments. Additionally, some data even suggests links between heavy use and higher rates of traffic accidents, workplace impairment, and emergency room visits.
 
And that’s the dilemma for us as Christians—just because cannabis is becoming legal in more places, should we use it? Can it be used responsibly or in moderation, especially for medical reasons? Scripture calls us to stay sober, care for our bodies and minds, and avoid things that could harm us or others—even if the law says they’re allowed. So how does that work when it comes to marijuana and cannabis?
 
Should we puff…or pass?
In today’s culture, intoxication and the reliance on substances like alcohol, marijuana, and other substances have become increasingly normalized, often portrayed as means of self-medicating, escape, coping, or recreation. For Christians, this presents a real challenge—how do we navigate a world where these substances are so accessible and even celebrated?
In the first installment of a three-part series, we’ll be exploring this topic and how it relates to alcohol and what the Bible has to say about it.
The Bible mentions drinking alcohol almost 300 times. It repeatedly warns against drunkenness, lack of self-control, and the spiritual dangers of dependence on anything other than God (Ephesians 5:18, Proverbs 20:1). Christians must ask: Am I using this to escape something God wants me to face? Is this substance mastering me in any way (1 Corinthians 6:12)? Does it hinder my witness, my clarity, or my ability to love others well? These aren’t just moral questions, but deeply spiritual ones that call us to reflect on what rules our hearts and minds.
So…who’s up for a little candid discussion about a mildly controversial topic?
Why don’t churches sing the Psalms anymore? Are they too clunky? Too ancient? Or are churches being directly disobedient to the explicit commands of Scripture to do so?
And while we’re asking bold questions... let’s talk about the brand-new Trump tariffs of 2025—what exactly does this mean for the economy, and how will it affect trade across the globe?
And finally... Pope Francis has died. What legacy does he leave behind, and where does the Catholic Church go from here? And also, should you be so inclined as to place a bet on who the next pope will be, what are the betting odds?
Is there a direct, unbroken line from the apostles to today's church leaders?
In this episode, we’re diving deep into the doctrine of Apostolic Succession—what it is, where it came from, and why it matters. We’ll explore how the Catholic and Orthodox traditions view this unbroken chain of spiritual authority, what role the pope and bishops play, and how this idea developed throughout church history.
But we’ll also ask: Why don’t Protestants hold to this view? Is it biblical? Is it essential?
Whether you're Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant—or just curious—hopefully this conversation will challenge you to think critically and historically about church leadership, unity, and authority.
What’s up Beards and Bible listeners. A while back, we did a series of episode in which we explored the topic of deconstruction and how it has become a trending in some of the younger generations. Since then, I’ve had several really amazing conversations with folks from all over the place about the topic. Some of whom have friends or family members who are in the process of deconstructing, some who were deconstructing but have since returned to their faith, and others who are currently deconstructing or have maybe even de-converted. I’ve learned a ton and have benefitted a lot from listening to people’s faith journeys and sharing with them my thoughts on the person of Jesus and why I believe we must hold firm to the key doctrines of the Christian faith.
Recently, I got a chance to sit down with a friend of mine from college who has had a very interesting faith journey, to say the least. I got a chance to share with him my thoughts on the Christian faith and hear where he’s at, and hopefully our conversation was helpful and life-giving to him. I hope and pray that this conversation is beneficial and helpful to you. Here’s my conversation with my friend Forrest.
It seems like everywhere you turn today-whether it's business, sports, self-improvement, or social media-there’s a resurgence of an ancient philosophy: Stoicism. From bestselling books like The Obstacle Is the Way to CEOs and Navy SEALs quoting Marcus Aurelius, this 2,000-year-old way of thinking is making a major comeback.
But what exactly is Stoicism? At its core, it teaches that we should control what we can, accept what we can't, and cultivate an unshakable inner peace. Sounds practical, right? But here’s the question: How does this align-or clash-with Christianity?
In this episode, we’re diving into:
Why Stoicism is experiencing a massive revival in modern culture.
The powerful Stoic concept of the Dichotomy of Control-and how it compares to trusting in God.
The idea of Anti-Fragility-growing stronger through hardship-and whether that lines up with a biblical view of suffering.
And ultimately… Can Christians learn something from Stoicism, or is it a competing worldview?
In today’s episode, we take a deep dive into one of the most mysterious figures in the Bible: Melchizedek. Mentioned only briefly in Genesis 14, Psalm 110, and Hebrews 7, Melchizedek is described as both a king and a priest, with no recorded genealogy. Who was he, and why does the book of Hebrews compare him to Jesus?
We'll explore key biblical passages that reference Melchizedek, breaking down their significance and tracing his role from Abraham’s encounter in Genesis to the theological implications found in Hebrews. We’ll also summarize the major interpretations of Melchizedek’s identity: was he a historical high priest, a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ (Christophany), or a symbolic figure pointing to Jesus as our eternal High Priest?
The world is changing, and so is the church. What challenges are we facing in 2025? What opportunities lie ahead? From the shifting faith landscape of Gen Z to the decline of evangelism, church closures, and the mental health crisis among pastors, we’re diving into the biggest disruptive trends shaping the future of the church.
 
How should we respond? What does it mean to stay faithful in a rapidly changing culture? In this episode, we’ll break down an article by Carey Nieuwhof on 5 Disruptive Church Trends That Will Rule 2025 and explore what it means to lead, serve, and share the gospel in this new era.
 
A topic that’s at the heart of the Christian life but is often misunderstood is the idea of forgiveness.
 
Jesus teaches us to forgive seventy times seven and to love our enemies, but does that mean we have to put up with abuse, mistreatment, or harm? Is forgiveness the same as enabling someone to continually hurt us? And what does it look like to set healthy, Christ-honoring boundaries while still walking in grace and mercy?
 
In this episode, we’ll explore what the Bible says about forgiveness and how it intersects with wisdom, justice, and self-respect. We’ll talk about what forgiveness really means—and what it doesn’t—and how we can honor God by forgiving others without sacrificing the boundaries that protect our hearts, minds, and well-being.
Happy new year Beards and Bible listeners! We are so excited to open up our inbox and do our best to answer some super interesting questions that were all sent in by you as the listener. We've got questions about Numbers 5 and “the bitter drink” (the jealousy offering), the apocrypha, tips to establish a daily devotional routine, and whether Mark 16:9-20 belongs in the Bible.






