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Author: Penny Williams

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Join parenting coach and mom-in-the-trenches, Penny Williams, as she helps parents, caregivers, and educators harness the realization that we are all beautifully complex and marvelously imperfect. Each week she delivers insights and actionable strategies on parenting and educating neurodivergent kids — those with ADHD, autism, anxiety, learning disabilities... Her approach to decoding behavior while honoring neurodiversity, and parenting the individual child you have will provide you with the tools to help you understand and transform behavior, reduce your own stress, increase parenting confidence, and create the joyful family life you crave. Penny has helped thousands of families worldwide to help their kids feel good so they can do good.

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Struggling to connect with your child who has ADHD can be incredibly challenging, leaving you feeling helpless and overwhelmed. In this insightful episode of Beautifully Complex (first aired 2020), I’m joined by Larry Hagner, founder of the Dad Edge podcast and father of four boys, to explore how dads can create the fatherhood they crave. Larry dives deep into his own experiences with ADHD and fatherhood, sharing practical tips on using empathy, asking open-ended questions, and the importance of praising effort rather than focusing solely on grades. His heartfelt stories, like the regrets of pressuring his son, resonate deeply and provide valuable insights on how to avoid similar pitfalls.You'll learn how to foster better connections with your kids through tactical empathy, reflective listening, and supportive engagement, especially during escalated moments. We also highlight the necessity for fathers to be more involved in their kid’s education, advocate for individualized teaching methods, and challenge the conformity-focused education system. Most importantly, we emphasize building a supportive community, where authenticity and vulnerability are celebrated, helping you navigate the intricacies of parenting kids with ADHD more effectively. Tune in to discover how to be more intentional and purposeful in your fatherhood journey, and turn challenging moments into opportunities for growth and connection.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
Feeling like your teen or young adult is struggling to find their confidence and navigate the ups and downs of life? In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I sit down with teen life coach, Kristi Simons, to provide strategies to empower confidence in your teen. Kristi delves into the importance of allowing your teen to experience their own emotions and challenges, while also equipping them with self-reflection tools and affirmations. You'll learn why it's essential to create a safe space for your teen to express fears and anxieties, and how being open and authentic can foster stronger, more supportive relationships.Together, Kristi and I explore powerful strategies like the "anchor activity," which helps teens ground themselves and manage emotions through joyful activities. We also highlight the need for setting realistic expectations and modeling confidence and authenticity. If you’re worried about your kid’s poor self-esteem, this episode will resonate deeply. Kristi shares actionable insights and small steps that you can take to help your teen start building their confidence today. Tune in to discover how you can support your teen in becoming their most confident, authentic self.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
We’ve all but outright rejected the old adage, “It takes a village to raise a child,” in American culture. We’re more fragmented and lonely than ever. Yet, there’s clear evidence that community and connection are key to happiness. It certainly takes a community to raise a happy and resilient child, even if “community” looks different in modern life.In this episode, I'm joined by the amazing CNN journalist and storyteller, Bill Weir, who takes us deep into the emotional journey of being human. Bill shares his personal path toward acceptance and learning what comes next, while also discussing the crucial role of community and nature for happiness and resilience.We explore his global travels, the shared humanity he’s discovered, and the impact of climate change on future generations. Together, we dive into crucial parenting insights from Abraham Maslow, discuss the importance of balance between virtual and real worlds, and the necessity of giving ourselves and others grace.This episode will resonate with you if you (or your child) are struggling to find balance and connection in today’s fast-paced, fragmented world. It’s packed with heartfelt stories and valuable advice. Tune in to discover how accepting life’s challenges and asking “What’s next?” can lead to action-oriented solutions that foster a healthier, more connected world. Don’t miss it. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, we’re examining a topic that really hits close to home for many of us — what to do when importance doesn’t create motivation, especially for our neurodivergent kids. I know firsthand how challenging it can be to get our kids started and keep them going on tasks that matter, but don’t necessarily excite them.I break down why the ADHD brain is motivated by interest and urgency, rather than importance, and share actionable strategies to help bridge that gap. We discuss everything from providing external rewards to setting specific goals and creating a supportive environment. You’ll learn the importance of making tasks manageable by breaking them into smaller chunks and leveraging your child's interests to spark intrinsic motivation.Join me as I guide you through these practical tips and insights to help your child thrive, even when their brain just isn’t wired to find motivation in the same way. Remember, you’re not alone, and together, we can navigate the beautifully complex journey of raising neurodivergent kids. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
Today, I'm so excited to be talking with Dr. Adam Price, a nationally known clinical psychologist and best-selling author with over 30 years of experience working with kids and adults. He's the author of "He's Not Lazy: Empowering Your Son to Believe in Himself" and "The He's Not Lazy Guide to Better Grades and a Great Life."In this episode, we’re talking about the myth of laziness — that’s right, I said “myth.” We explore why adults often jump to labeling kids as lazy and Dr. Price shares valuable insights about motivation, empathy, the importance of understanding our kid’s unique challenges, and how to foster autonomy and competence in them. We also share how crucial it is to build a strong connection with your kids and find ways to help them feel seen, heard, and understood.If you're ready to reframe your perspective on laziness and learn practical strategies to better support your neurodivergent child, you won't want to miss this conversation. So, let's get started! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, we’re focusing on making summertime rewarding and manageable for neurodiverse families. I’ll guide you through a summer plan that encompasses structured activities, personal growth, and meaningful connections. This episode is packed with strategies starting with how to create an adaptable visual plan using tools like a Post-it calendar or a Mighty & Bright schedule board, perfect for kids who find comfort in visual aids and might struggle with schedule changes. Then, we move into exploration — encouraging our kids to follow their interests and passions, which is crucial for their confidence and sense of belonging in the world. Whether through specialized camps like SOAR or simple nature walks, exposure to new experiences is key. We also discuss growth through just-right challenges that push kids slightly out of their comfort zones to build resilience, but not so far that it isn’t doable for them. Whether it's working on a complex project or trying a new sport, it's about finding that sweet spot of challenge that is both challenging and attainable. Lastly, connection remains a cornerstone of our discussion, emphasizing the importance of cultivating strong bonds with our kids. This summer, let’s lean into activities that strengthen our relationships and foster communal growth. Remember, parenting is more about nurturing relationships than just managing tasks. Let’s dive into this summer with intention and joy.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode, I’m joined by Tara Phillips, speech language pathologist and founder of Autism Little Learners. She shares some transformative tools and techniques which have significantly benefited her students, such as the use of visual supports and predictable routines. Together, Tara and I explore the importance of positive connections and a strengths-based approach in early education, practical tips for implementing adapted board books, and strategies to reduce anxiety for both children and parents. Whether you’re a parent, educator, or therapist, this episode is packed with resources and actionable advice to support the development of young autistic learners. Tune in to transform your approach and enrich your toolkit.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
This time on Beautifully Complex, I'm exploring behavior struggles and conscious discipline with my guest, Wendy Snyder, a positive parenting educator and family life coach. We discuss how understanding behaviors as communication changes our perspective, helping us view challenges as signals of need and teaching opportunities. Join us as we dive into how creating a sense of belonging and safety at home allows our kids to thrive under our guidance. Wendy shares her expertise on managing our own triggers and approaching parenting with empathy and intention. Tune in for practical advice to help you be the parent your kids need.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
The terms IEP and 504 plan may come up a lot when you’re looking into special education for your child. These school supports do some of the same things, but one can provide more services and the other is easier to get. And it’s important to know the differences in order to get your child the support they need. On this episode of Beautifully Complex, you will hear an episode of Understood Explains, where host Juliana Urtubey breaks down the differences between IEPs and 504 plans, and which one might be right for your child.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode, I'm chatting with my guest Daniel Maigler, about the transformative roles of emotional support animals. Dan's insights as a social worker and mental health advisor for Paws for Patrick reveal how emotional support animals can aid those facing mental health challenges. Dan shares the poignant story behind Paws for Patrick, emphasizing the support ESAs can offer, especially to young people. Throughout this episode, he differentiates between therapy dogs, service animals, and emotional support animals, clarifying common misconceptions. From legalities to the non-requirement of training for ESAs, we're tackling the myths and discussing the urgency for more emotional support options in schools. For any listener interested in the healing potential of animals and understanding the process for obtaining an ESA, this episode provides clarity and heartfelt testimony.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I tackle why our kids and teens might use extreme language to express their emotions. We're recognizing that expressions like "I hate you" or phrases that include aggression or violence often aren't literal but signal an inability to articulate complex emotions. I talk about the importance of distinguishing between different feelings and emphasize the role parents play in guiding their kids to understand and communicate their emotions more precisely. Through my experiences and the stories I share — like my child's alarming description of a recess incident — I highlight how easy it is to misunderstand our kids' emotional needs. We'll unpack essential skills like social emotional learning, interoception, and how to be the calm anchor for your kids. Listen in for practical strategies to improve your child’s emotional communication.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
Brooks Gibbs, Ph.D. is joining me for a conversation on Insights on Bullying: Understanding Aggression, Building Resilience. His expertise in social psychology shines a light on the intricate dance between aggression and resilience — especially in the lives of our neurodivergent kids. In this episode, you'll hear stories close to my heart, including my son's journey through the world of teasing and the delicate balance of parenting a child who sees the world literally. Dr. Gibbs offers thought-provoking perspectives on empathy, teaching us about rational compassion and how it can be a game-changer in our parenting toolkit. We'll also discuss the provocative idea of the therapeutic role of horror and drama films in building mental flexibility, and Dr. Gibbs will introduce questions that can profoundly shift our approach to challenges. Moreover, we'll address the emotional challenges faced by individuals with autism and alexithymia, emphasizing the need for strong advocacy and support. As we dissect the shortcomings of traditional anti-bullying campaigns, Dr. Gibbs proposes a fresh focus on mental health and resilience. And I'll share my evolution from overprotective parenting to encouraging my child's growth in frustration tolerance and independence.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I have the pleasure of talking with Shari Leid of An Imperfectly Perfect Life. Together, we’re talking about purposeful living and parenting and celebrating gradual progress over the pursuit of perfection. Shari shares her deep insights on the value of recognizing and fostering the inherent strengths in our children. We confront societal expectations head-on, discussing the critical importance of valuing imperfections and the individuality of each journey. This episode is rich with reflection on the concepts of resilience and authenticity in the context of modern parenting.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
Let's talk about what to do when your kid isn't listening. Remember, they might be processing your words in non-traditional ways, so it's important to find alternative approaches to help them focus, process, and follow through. From recognizing distractions to accommodating slow processing speeds, I offer practical advice to help parents navigate these complex situations, including how to engage them physically, provide written instructions, and be mindful of their individual needs. By understanding these hurdles and meeting your kid where they are, you can foster better communication and cooperation. Join me!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I explore the detrimental effects of trying to control kids, emphasizing the importance of a humanistic approach to behavior. After watching the recent documentary series on Netflix called "The Program," I was both horrified by the trauma that the “troubled teen industry” causes and inspired to talk about the much more helpful perspective science offers regarding behavior. I’ve identified 8 key elements that help us feel good so we can do good, and none of them have anything to do with control. Through personal experiences and impassioned insights, I shed light on the need to empower kids, especially those who are neurodivergent, and the damaging impact of not respecting their individuality and autonomy. Join me in understanding the importance of taking a humanistic approach to behavior and nurturing an environment that supports and values the uniqueness of every child.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of the Beautifully Complex podcast, I sit down with Dr. Melanie McNally, a clinical psychologist and brain coach who specializes in working with tweens, teens, and young adults. Together, we explore the struggles that many young adults face in finding motivation and direction. Dr. Melanie shares her expertise on helping young adults build their interpersonal skills and increase their motivation. She breaks down the components of motivation into three skill sets: drive, grit, and goals, offering valuable insights for parents navigating the complexities of raising motivated teens. We also delve into the challenges of this generation's unique landscape, touch on the impact of social media, and discuss the changing dynamics of adolescence and parenting. I found Dr. McNally's approach to be insightful and empowering, offering practical strategies for parents and young adults alike. If you're a parent navigating the complexities of raising neurodivergent teens and young adults, Dr. Melanie’s wisdom is sure to provide valuable guidance and support.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of the Beautifully Complex podcast, I tackle the topic of rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD) and provide 7 essential steps to help kids and teens facing this challenge. I share insights on recognizing signs of RSD in kids and teens, fostering open communication, building self-esteem, challenging negative thought patterns, teaching coping strategies, practicing self-compassion, and seeking professional support when needed. Our role as parents and caregivers is crucial in helping our neurodivergent kids navigate these challenges and thrive. If you want to learn more about supporting your child with RSD, don't miss this episode. Remember, you are not alone on this journey, and together, we can help our kids grow into resilient, confident, successful, happy, joyful adults.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In today's episode, Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.ED., LPC is back and we're unpacking what it means to be a neuro-affirmative parent or teacher. We explore the pressures that neurodivergent kids face, especially the expectation to camouflage their true selves. Emily, with her dual expertise in education and counseling, is sharing invaluable insights, including her CARE acronym, which stands for cultivating authenticity, recognizing strengths, empathy, and creating safety. We discuss the intricacies of masking and the importance of authentic self-representation for these amazing kids and adults. We also address the negative impacts of non-affirming environments that can lead to stress and school avoidance. Our chat is laced with discussions on embracing rather than merely accepting diverse communication styles, and how this can transform a child's experience. Emily also sheds light on the 'double empathy problem,' the disconnect that can happen in communication between neurodivergent individuals and the neurotypical majority. Together, Emily and I are rethinking communication norms and advocating for the celebration of individuality, particularly within the neurodiverse community. As we speak, we're delving into self-advocacy for neurodivergent children and the importance of making that a communicative priority. Let’s talk about the significance of recognizing and leveraging the strengths of these amazing humans.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
Today, I get to talk to the incredible Dr. Richard Selznick—a renowned psychologist specializing in dyslexia and learning disabilities. We dive into the traps parents often fall into when communicating with their children, especially those with neurodivergent needs. Dr. Selznick emphasizes the importance of giving our kids choices. It's eye-opening to hear about the challenges of motivating children with learning struggles and how we tend to blame ourselves as parents. Dr. Selznick's insight shifts the focus to understanding and supporting our kids in the best possible way.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I’m sharing a deeply personal story about a challenging experience with my son and the valuable insights it brought us regarding challenging behavior and supporting our neurodivergent kids. Through sharing this experience, I emphasize the need for flexibility and understanding in dealing with challenging behaviors, as well as the role of an individual’s nervous system and behavior. I’m also sharing info about the upcoming Transforming Behavior workshop series, which will provide free workshops for parents and caregivers.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beautifully-complex--6137613/support.
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Timothy Drummond

intro and outro got switched lol whoops. threw me for a second

Dec 4th
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Zeebs Zen

I love your podcast but this by far has hit closest to home. So empowering to know there are others with the same struggles and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Jan 4th
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Leslie bailiff

Thank you ladies! I always learn so much about parenting our child with ADHD. waxh time I listen more makes sense.

May 27th
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Leslie bailiff

Penny... you have changed my world and how I go forward to parent our child. Thank-you!

Feb 16th
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Laura Loera

this episode says 76 but its 75.

Dec 19th
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Frances B. Murillo

Hello Penny how do I get my two sons to stop fighting

Oct 26th
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Tuan Thai

Great episode. I appreciate the strategies discussed as they are extremely relatable to our situation.

Oct 22nd
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Frances B. Murillo

So I'm a Mom of a ADHD boy with anger issues and very impulsive and your podcast is so on point. I want to give some of my boys background but not sure if this is the right place, so I'm going read some other comments and I'll get back to you. I just wanted to let you know that I love this podcast.

Oct 14th
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Leslie bailiff

Penny- you are amazing and we hear your love and warmth through the microphone. I have only listened to a few and have learned so much! Thank you

Oct 7th
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Maya Shumowsky

This was so helpful to me, I can relate to every single thing you said. Thank you!

Aug 26th
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Heather Estep

Episode 60...man so much information!! I am so glad I stumble on this. My only complaint is the audio plays in one earbud...unless it's a clip. ((yes, I've tried multiple earbuds))

May 30th
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Karen Dawson

thank you this is such amazing advice

May 28th
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Kelly Christian

Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to hear this morning. I will be using all of your tips/info as I move forward with my 11 year old son. We have been struggling and now I feel as if I'm armed with some positive tools to change the direction of our conversations and hopefully improve our relationship and future outcomes moving forward.

May 1st
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Melanie Foote

love it..so helpful.

Mar 29th
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Melanie Foote

this is awesome. two ADHD boys .great pic cast

Mar 19th
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Jennifer Potempa

These podcasts are lifesaver.

Oct 19th
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Heidi Lappe

Thank you for your help. I needed this today.

Jun 13th
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