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It's time to hand the keys back to the landlord now that Season 3 draws to a close and the team at Beer & Butterfly want to wish all the listeners a fantastic Happy New Year for 2022. Ian & JP catch-up one last time to review the previous season and look at how we can take learnings into Season 4 by reviewing what went well, what didn't go so well and what could be improved next time.If any of our listeners want to get in touch with the show feel free to get in contact with us on hosts@beerandbutterfly.co.uk0:00 - Intro1:11 - Happy New Year 20225:18 - What went well?11:53 - What didn't go so well?17:44 - What can we do better?21:19 - Audience feedback request24:26 - Last orders

The Beer & Butterfly has started it's preparations to shut it's doors again this wintery season but not before our final guest Ken Peel joins us at the table to talk about how organisations can exploit agile through mindsets, cultures, tools and techniques.The group catch-up and chat around a few films Ken has recommended Nomadland and Joker, JP is preparing for Christmas with some present drops in Lincolnshire and Ian is NOT rowing and NOT cycling.Ken takes the episode forward by kicking off with the three key areas of an agile organisation, discussing why starting with the scrum framework is probably not the right place to start and the dangers of consultants applying methods / tools universally as if one size fits all.For more information on Ken you can check out his LinkedIn profile here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenpeel/0:00 - Intro1:13 - Introducing our guest...Ken Peel10:38 - What have we been up to?20:37 - 3 areas of a successful agile organisation29:50 - Adaptive organisation - find the big constraints37:07 - Respond, innovate, adapt and go for the hard stuff39:16 - Don't start with the scrum framework46:56 - Focus on outcomes with Kanban54:11 - Holistic and change the hard stuff55:57 - The myth of universal applicability1:03:05  - Crafting an outcome and value driven approach1:14:42 - Thanking Ken1:16:43 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Final1:24:52 - Word on the street - Envisioning1:33:08 - Last orders

As the third season starts to draw down to a close and we're getting close to Christmas, JP gets a visit from his older brother Simon Parnaby to join us at the table to talk about the need for agility in retail.The group catch-up and chat through getting ready for x-mas, experiencing the Polar Express event live, watching the new Hawkeye series and Simon highlights his experience of getting into a new hobby (tabletop board games - you're welcome JP).Simon takes the reigns of the episode and paints a picture of the retail industry during and post pandemic and outlines the challenges & opportunities in which they face to stay relevant, agile and serve customers via the channels they need at this time.For more information on Simon check out his LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-parnaby-4a0a306/0:00 - Intro1:12 - Introducing our guest...Simon Parnaby10:02 - What have we been up to?20:58 - How covid has affected retail25:45 - More focus needed especially on the customer26:55 - Bigger reliance on data27:39 - Collaboration, mindsets, reorganisation and change33:18 - Accelerated change and online / ecommerce37:30 - Focus on customer insight and online experience44:53 - Being as agile and resilient as you can be52:05 - Not all customers are the same55:21 - The digital experience passport59:35 - Views of the future in retail1:05:31 - Thanking Simon1:06:04 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 81:10:53 - Word on the street - CRM vs CDP1:19:22 - Last orders

It's a new day and Ian & JP fancy a good old chat around something strategic and meaty.  So in walks Adrian Wakefield at the right time to talk about the trouble with operating models.JP recites his weekend of mishaps and disasters (trains, trees and Only Fools & Horses), Ian has switched cycling to rowing in a shed and Adrian talks about how the pandemic has allowed him to spend more time in North Spain.Todays episode dives deep into Business Operating Models and outlines the trouble with them, either because they are a conceptual diagram which people find it hard to consume or whether politically they realise the new designs means less power & influence in the new world.If you want to learn more about Adrian then check out his LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrian-wakefield-0372a53/0:00 - Intro1:12 - Introducing our guest...Adrian Wakefield5:00 - What have we been up to?15:30 - The trouble with operating models18:31 - Design principles upfront21:28 - Crafting and some rules of thumb27:10 - Business politics, powerbase and mindsets30:39 - No great textbook or practitioner guides35:18 - Shaping and then governance38:47 - Start with strategy, align on value43:57 - Pitching operating models to smaller enterprises47:41 - The iterative operating model53:55 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 759:20 - Word on the street - Minimum Viable Data Migration1:06:13 - Last orders

Ian & JP are on their own tonight having a well deserved catch-up and getting prepared for Christmas whilst discussing what the term "Discovery" and it's importance within transformation.Ian is executing his Christmas present buying plan perfectly as it's being left to the last minute and JP has been getting his kids into Ghostbusters in readiness to watch Ghostbusters Afterlife.  Our hosts then chat through what the term discovery means and what typically the various stages are before rounding up why organisations should consider doing them.0:00 - Intro1:14 - Getting ready for Christmas5:38 - What have we been up to?14:13 - What is discovery?17:48 - Stages of discovery25:03 - When does discovery finish?27:38 - Doing discoveries remotely34:11 - Why do a discovery?44:01 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 650:06 - Word on the street - The positives of remote workshops1:02:33 - Last orders

The Beer & Butterfly is getting rather full in this mid season episode where some old friends from Season 2 have decided to join us and talk about the opportunities and challenges happening within transformation right now.Ian & JP are joined by Sarah Walters, Tim Dew and Simon Woodhouse and catch up to chat through some meaty subjects such as:- Topic 1: How do we achieve a "change ready" organisation?- Topic 2: Is remote working working?- Topic 3: Sustainability and "Going Green"0:00 - Intro1:29 - Welcoming our old friends from Season 24:38 - Topic - What's happening in transformation right now?5:24 - Topic 1: How do we achieve a "change ready" organisation?33:54 - Topic 2: Is remote working, working as well as on site?54:40 - Topic 3: Sustainability and "Going Green" - Big Transformation1:09:23 - Thanking our Season 2 guests1:09:54 - Last orders

The Beer & Butterfly is getting busy this season as Sharon Sanders joins our hosts at the table to talk about the emotions of change and how to make that your superpower.Ian begins by relentlessly telling everyone that he's been on holiday (again!!!) and JP recounts his experience in getting into Squid Game on Netflix and who sits on the subtitles vs dubbed fence.  Sharon takes the conversation forward to focus her passion not just on change management but around providing support & leadership for people going through change, recognising that emotions are a massive part of the process.You can learn more about our guest on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-sanders-54141b6/0:00 - Intro1:12 - Introducing our guest...Sharon Sanders10:19 - What have we been up to?17:42 - Impact of change on peoples emotions & behaviours23:56 - Coaching and supporting transformation & change32:16 - Self help and managing emotions is complex38:24 - Tools & techniques at pace42:26 - Leadership, Openness & Trust56:21 - Using technology to support & align people in change1:01:07 - By being passionate about people, people make change happen1:03:09 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 51:06:49 - Thanking Sharon1:07:36 - Word on the street - More capability focused, less technology focused1:13:31 - Last orders

Episode 4 is bring more "Fresh Insights" but this time from the world of procurement.  Tom Mills joins the table bringing to life the changing perceptions of procurement coming out of the pandemic.JP is getting back into his squash matches and continuing his health kick, Ian relives Pulp Fiction and wonders what is in that brief case and also reading Ethan Hawkes book, Tom tells a story of being out in the middle of a field at 5am exercising.Tom brings the world of procurement to life on how the pandemic has changed the domain from being strategic to more transactional and the challenge to get back to being strategic.You can learn more about Tom on his LinkedIn page here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-mills-20a56726/0:00 - Intro1:13 - Welcoming Tom to the table2:50 - What have we been up to?12:30 - Coming out the pandemic made procurement more transactional16:17 - Procurement become common in the public domain19:51 - Sway from strategic procurement processes21:53 - Supply chain resilience28:26 - Risk, resilience & pace32:23 - Follow core principles but be adaptive37:45 - Data is a game changer42:40 - The changing perceptions of procurement46:21 - People, talent and a career in procurement49:33 - Dreams of being a weather man55:09 - Importance of growing your network57:56 - Thanking Tom58:10 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 41:02:30 - Word on the street - Transformation strategy and pace1:13:02 - Last orders

Season 3 is in full swing and just as one guest leaves we are joined by another special guest Paul Clavering from Just Enough Change who talks about how he's on a mission to keep change simple.As the group catch-up, Ian tells us about night time bike riding and catching up over the latest film Free Guy.  JP continues to update around his weight loss being over a stone loss and Paul highlights being addicted to NCIS and binge watchingPaul introduces us to his business Just Enough Change and highlights his mission and values in trying to make change as simple as possible and highlights how his daughter was the inspiration for it all.Paul's Linkedin profile: www.linkedin.com/in/paulclaveringJust Enough Change Company Link: https://www.linkedin.com/company/justenoughchangeIf you want to get more information on the ChangeTracker then check out the link here - https://www.justenoughchange.com/change-tracker0:00 - Intro1:12 - Introducing our guest...Paul Clavering4:58 - What have we been up to?14:22 - Let's not overcomplicate change18:02 - Need to relate to support the change20:11 - Keeping it simple23:44 - Using images to allow people to form their views26:40 - Just enough to get to the end goal28:41 - The Change Tracker35:25 - Going further than theory38:15 - Apathy tracking42:07 - Don't prescribe the journey, prescribe the goal42:55 - Thanking Paul45:38 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 349:00 - Word on the street - Re-Use, Buy & Build avenues55:10 - Last orders

The next episode returns with Ian & JP joined at the table with Rob Manley to bring us fresh insights from the Marketing domain by telling us the importance of customer centricity in business.The group catch-up and talk about JP's bet with himself to loose weight with the help of Noom, Rob asks what order you should what the Star Wars films in when watching with your kids and Ian is getting into a new sci-fi show Foundation on Apple TV.Rob leads the discussion and brings his perspective as a marketer and CRM Manager on how a single view of the customer helps unlocks and empowers all aspects of the business whether your in marketing, sales or service.You can find more information about Rob on his Linkedin profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-manley-39b56731/0:00 - Intro1:13 - Welcoming Rob Manley to the table4:39 - Customer centricity, experience and marketing8:36 - What have we been up to?26:33 - What does customer centricity mean?31:24 - The golden record35:44 - The siloed business channel challenge41:18 - Value and success factors lost by shiny tech44:28 - Listening to the voice of the customer51:03 - Hierarchy of message & personalisation59:53 - Identifying low hanging fruit1:05:29 - Thanking Rob M1:06:16 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 21:10:29 - Word on the street - injecting change management when you know it's too late1:16:32 - Last orders

After Ian & JP return from their summer holidays we welcome them back into the Beer & Butterfly to kick off Season 3 by talking about what is transformation capability.The hosts reflect around their holidays and whilst Ian was visiting Majorca, JP was spending 11 nights in a tent (who got the better deal there?) whilst introducing the seasons new theme "Fresh Insights" and provides some overview of what to expect in the upcoming episodes.  0:00 - Intro1:15 - Introducing Season 33:31 - Our theme for Season 3 - Fresh Insights7:25 - Disrupt Us - Our request8:07 - Introducing "Another Rounds"9:39 - What have we been up to?18:37 - Introducing transformation capability26:30 - Transformation capability ecosystems30:41 - Lean approach to developing capability32:07 - What does good look like?37:55 - Check out BTM243:53 - Fitness for transformation49:50 - Pub quiz (Ian vs JP) - Question 152:51 - Last orders

After a nice summer break our hosts Ian & JP return for Season Three which returns in November 2021.

Ian & JP meet one final time for this season and retrospectively review how things have gone before hanging up the keys and bolting the doors of the Beer & Butterfly.  00:00 - Intro01:13 - We've crossed the finish line03:36 - Pub quiz - Question 11 Answer05:31 - What went well?11:38 - What didn't go so well?16:14 - What can we do better?22:14 - Season Three?23:46 - Hanging the keys up for summer24:27 - Last orders

Ian & JP have hit the realisation that this is the last "full" episode of the season and are joined by Scott Robertson from SQWYZ consulting to talk about how strategy and transformation are two sides of the same coin.  JP has caught up with the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universal) by watching Black Widow and discuss why a Disney+ podcast deal hasn't been made yet, Ian has finally gets his gates up by sacrificing his trip to Wimbledon and Scott is planning to go on a UK holiday in the South West whilst avoiding the chaos that is the M5.  The trio jump into the conversation around aligning leadership and some of the "wasp nests" that can create, discuss how strategy & transformation are ultimately interwoven and round off talking around examples of offensive and defensive disruption strategies.You can find out more information on Scott on his Linkedin Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertsonsm/00:00 - Intro01:11 - Introducing our guest...Scott Robertson02:45 - Pub quiz - Question 10 Answer04:42 - What have we been up to?11:28 - Strategic leadership in transformation25:30 - It's also a mindset28:34 - Disruption strategies46:08 - Building transformation capability48:59 - Raising the bar through merging strategy with transformation50:08 - Pub quiz - Question 1151:42 - Thanking Scott52:15 - Question time58:09 - Last orders

As Ian & JP catch-up this week their next guest is just "passing by the pub" and decides to join them to talk all around behavioural change and mindsets when it comes to transformation.  Ian is still excited about going to Wimbledon tickets and finally has a plan for his aluminium gates but generally working more than having fun.  JP finally remembers that he went away for his wedding anniversary weekend when usually it's forgetting the date upfront and looking forward to his re-booked camping trip, updates on Loki and talks vampires in What We Do In The Shadows.  Simon reminds us of an important football tournament that's happening (Euros 2020 which was delayed due to COVID).  Simon then leads the episode and as a group we explore various facets of behavioural change, mirroring, aligning mindsets and change account management.You can find out more information on Simon on his LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-woodhouse-2323255b/00:00 - Intro01:12 - Introducing our guest...Simon Woodhouse03:35 - Pub quiz - Question 9 Answer05:27 - What have we been up to?15:20 - Football & Business behavioural change20:30 - Culture, mirroring & negotiating24:13 - Behavioural change stairway model27:18 - Aligning and shifting mindsets34:32 - Measure and sustaining the change38:20 - Change account management42:53 - Change happens when it's fair51:13 - Talking points through rich pictures58:15 - Raising the bar through inviting people to change01:02:48 - Pub quiz - Question 1001:04:51 - Thanking Simon01:05:07 - Question time01:10:56 - Last orders

The end of the pub quiz is in sight and Ian & JP are wondering if they are going to get the wooden spoon award for coming in last place, however this evening they are joined by Rob Llewellyn from CXO Transform to discuss how individuals can leverage the digital economy.  The trio catch-up over a drink and Rob provides a background of his water-skiing days which enabled him to travel around the world as well where his fascination of travelling stemmed from.  The episode focuses on how Rob transformed his own business from being a consultant travelling to clients  to building a successful online business delivering education and business transformation knowledge across the globe.Useful Links:You can find out more information on Rob Llewellyn on his LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robllewellyn/Linkedin Article - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-digital-experiment-ceo-salary-rob-llewellynDigital Business Framework Program - A Step-by-Step Plan to Grow Your Digital Economy Prosperity Online - https://cxotransform.com/p/dbf-startPROMOTIONAL OFFER - Use discount code BEER35 in the checkout on cxotransform.com00:00 - Intro01:13 - Introducing our guest...Rob Llewellyn04:06 - A bit of background on Rob07:20 - Pub quiz - Question 8 Answer08:41 - What have we been up to?13:07 - From consultant to leveraging digital18:13 - The bet20:20 - Learn and fail fast, resolve and progress23:33 - New challenges - scaling the business29:39 - What's next for Rob35:51 - Importance of giving value39:41 - Raising the bar through the digital economy43:00 - Advice to others leveraging digital50:51 - CXO Transform Promotional offer53:00 - Pub quiz - Question 954:15 - Thanking Rob54:46 - Question time01:00:50 - Last orders

Our hosts are feeling nostalgic in this episode as Ian and JP talk about why Business Analyst's are awesome in their role within business transformation.  As the pair catch up Ian talks about putting his gates off to go to Wimbledon and JP relays his experience of driving supercars around an abandoned airfield.  JP starts to explain why this episode was an important one for him to really shine a light on BA's and the importance they play, calling upon own experiences and highlighting key areas of why they are great.00:00 - Intro01:13 - Pub quiz - Question 7 Answer03:04 - What have we been up to?10:35 - Why Business Analysts are awesome?15:11 - What BA's do?18:09 - How did JP become a BA?24:10 - This episode is for all the BA's out there25:31 - BA Topic 1 - Define the why26:33 - BA Topic 2 - Solution agnostic28:39 - BA Topic 3 - Uncover root causes30:23 - BA Topic 4 - Documenting requirements31:37 - BA Topic 5 - Process mapping34:23 - BA Topic 6 - Understanding the impact of change36:30 - BA Topic 7 - Ensuring solution is fit for purpose39:40 - How a BA raises the bar?41:24 - Pub quiz - Question 842:33 - Question time47:21 - Last ordersNote: Link to Prosci return on investment on change management as mentioned in the questions - https://www.prosci.com/resources/articles/roi-change-management

The halfway point has been reached with Season Two and Ian & JP catch-up once again to try something new which they call "Transformation Speed Dating".  After catching up the hosts embark on an episode which is unplanned and randomised by splitting the conversation into "personal / getting to know you topics" and "business transformation topics from the BTM2 framework (Business Transformation Management Framework)" that are driven randomly by spinning the wheel.00:00 - Intro01:12 - We are half way there02:43 - Pub quiz - Question 6 Answer04:51 - What have we been up to?12:50 - Transformation speed dating16:04 - Spin the wheel41:41 - Pub quiz - Question 743:39 - Last orders

As Ian & JP meet up in the Beer & Butterfly we explore how serious gaming is transforming how we educate people through change & transformation.   We are joined at the table by Tim Dew from GingrTech and as everyone catches up over a drink, Ian is watching Falcon & The Winter Soldier, JP finds out he's far to old to go trampolining with the kids and Tim explores a TV show "Succession" and isn't quite sure about it.  They continue to then explore how Tim created "Rocket",  why serious games have an important role to play in the transformation space and our hosts reflect on their experiences when they played a game of Rocket recently.You can find out more about Tim on his LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timdew/00:00 - Intro01:13 - Introducing Tim Dew02:57 - Welcoming Tim to the table05:24 - Pub quiz - Question 5 Answer07:13 - What have we been up to?15:06 - What are serious games?21:35 - Capturing the emotion of an organisation thats failing & successful24:38 - What is Rocket?41:22 - Time in transformation50:03 - What is Concord?56:39 - Pub quiz - Question 659:04 - Thanking Tim1:00:13 - Question time1:04:12 - Last orders

Ian & JP return and review their current progress on the pub quiz (not going well) and devote an episode to a question provided by Debbie Evans on whether we should do AS IS Analysis or not.  Our hosts recall the joys of the bank holiday weekend and enjoying the recent weather and talk about some films & TV (Army of the Dead & Taskmaster) and we get an update on Ian's aluminium gates.  This episode essentially unpacks the recorded question from Debbie and poses a "for" and "against" argument for doing AS IS Analysis within transformations.00:00 - Intro01:13 - Pub quiz - Question 4 Answer02:53 - What have we been up to?10:11 - Framing the episode11:24 - Question from Debbie Evans12:35 - Unpacking the question18:41 - Arguments for AS IS28:18 - Arguments against AS IS34:15 - A view of the way forward39:00 - Circumstantial and just enough approach44:15 - Pub quiz - Question 545:43 - Last orders