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Author: Michial Farmer and Josh Altmanshofer

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Josh Altmanshofer, Michial Farmer, and their occasional guests watch through the Disney Animated Canon--one film a month--and talk them out.
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1001 Nights, Nights 19-34

1001 Nights, Nights 19-34

2025-08-0701:24:11

Josh and Michial are back to talk about five stories from the 1001 Nights, and also to talk irrelevantly about how they met, college radio, and not getting paid by concert promoters. 
Josh and Michial are back to talk about five stories from the first nineteen nights: - Prologue- "The Vizier and the Sage Duban"- "The Envier and the Envied"- "The Eldest Lady's Story"- "The Doorkeeper's Story"
Just-So Stories, Episode 2

Just-So Stories, Episode 2

2025-04-0801:30:16

This month (a little late) we finish up our brief series on Kipling's Just-So Stories. Good news: We've got a lot more to say about the back half of the book, including detours into C.S. Lewis's Experiment in Criticism and Jacques Derrida's Dissemination. Bad news: a lot of what we have to say is about "How the Alphabet Was Made," a little-loved story. Stay tuned until the end to hear what our next series will be on! 
Just-So Stories, Episode 1

Just-So Stories, Episode 1

2025-03-0701:22:23

We're back with a new (albeit short) series on Rudyard Kipling's Just-So Stories. Listen as we talk about the first six stories in this collection and muse a bit on why they don't bear scrutiny as well as fairy tales. 
We're back, with our seventh and final episode on Grimms' Fairy Tales. We'll be talking about the following ten stories, some of which are truly and gloriously bizarre: Puss in BootsPrincess MousekinThe Blacksmith and the Devil The Soldier and the CarpenterThe Pea TestThe Robber and His SonsThe Winter RoseThe Celebration of the Underground CreaturesThe Princess in the Coffin and the SentryKing Ironhead Next month we'll be back to talk about the first half of Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories. See you then!
Episode 62: Wish

Episode 62: Wish

2025-01-0201:34:19

Josh and Michial take a sloth-driven break from the Grimms and talk about the 62nd full-length Disney animated feature, 2023's Wish. Spoiler alert: It's not as bad as everyone said it is, but it certainly doesn't instill us with any faith in the company.  We also announce our next book series! 
Josh and Michial are here to talk about some of their favorite of Grimms' fairy tales. Along the way they'll discuss how to make yourself annoying at parties: The Life SpanThe Master ThiefThe DrummerThe Grave MoundThe Crystal BallThe Boots of Buffalo LeatherPoverty and Humility Lead to HeavenThe Three Green Twigs
Josh and Michial are back, intact, and ready to discuss these ten Grimms' fairy tales: The Iron StoveOne Eye, Two Eyes, and Three EyesThe Worn-Out Dancing ShoesThe Six ServantsThe White Bride and the Black BrideThe DonkeyThe TurnipThe Stolen PenniesSnow White and Rose RedThe Glass CoffinPlus, hear about the only real argument they've ever gotten into!
Hurricane Eye

Hurricane Eye

2024-10-0301:05

Helene has intervened, and we need to beg off for another month. 
We're back at long last, Michial having fished his book out of one of his many moving boxes. Today we'll discuss the following stories: The GnomeThe Water of LifeBearskinThe Wren and the BearThe Two TravelersHans My HedgehogThe Bright Sun Will Bring It to LightThe Three Army Surgeons Join us next month when we talk about the following ten stories: The Iron StoveOne Eye, Two Eyes and Three EyesThe Worn-Out Dancing ShoesThe Six ServantsThe White Bride and the Black WhiteThe DonkeyThe TurnipThe Stolen PenniesSnow White and Rose RedThe Glass Coffin
Yet Another Delay

Yet Another Delay

2024-08-0101:53

This time we are reasonably sure we'll be back September 5.
Another Delay

Another Delay

2024-07-0402:04

We'll (hopefully) be back August 1!
Josh and Michial are back to talk about seven Grimms' fairy tales, none of which we'd ever read before: The Golden BirdThe Two BrothersThe Twelve HuntsmenThe Three Sons of FortuneThe Wolf and the FoxBrother LustigThe Goose Girl  Come and find out what happens when you put a spinning wheel in the room with a woman pretending to be a man! Next month, we'll be discussing the following eight stories:The GnomeThe Water of LifeBearskinThe Wren and the BearThe Two TravelersHans My HedgehogThe Bright Sun Will Bring It to LightThe Three Army Surgeons
Josh and Michial discuss nine more Grimms' fairy tales: - The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs- The Maiden without Hands- The Magic Table, the Golden Donkey, and the Club in the Sack- Thumbling- The Elves- The Juniper Tree- The Six Swans - King Thrushbeard- Sweetheart Roland We'll be back the first week in June with another episode, on the following stories: - The Golden Bird- The Two Brothers - The Twelve Huntsmen- The Three Sons of Fortune- The Wolf and the Fox- Brother Lustig- The Goose Girl
A Brief Delay

A Brief Delay

2024-05-0201:04

We keep promising, and we keep failing to deliver. But we will be back next week with more Grimms' Fairy Tales!
Our next Grimms' episode is going to have to be delayed for a month because of scheduling issues--we apologize! But we'll be talking about the following stories: The Devil with the Three Golden HairsThe Maiden without HandsThe Magic Table (etc.)ThumblingThe ElvesThe Juniper TreeThe Six SwansKing ThrushbeardSweetheart Roland See you in May!
Josh and Michial return to talk about nine of Grimms' fairy tales: The Companionship of the Cat and the Mouse (Katze und Maus in Gesellschaft)A Tale of the Boy Who Went Forth to Find Out What Fear Was (Märchen von einem, der auszog das Fürchten zu lernen)The Marvelous Minstrel (Der wunderliche Spielmann)The Three Little Gnomes in the Woods (Die drei Männlein im Walde)The Three Spinners (Die drei Spinnerinnen)The Three Snake Leaves (Die drei Schlangenblätter)The Fisherman and His Wife (Von dem Fischer und seiner Frau)The Brave Little Tailor (Das tapfere Schneiderlein) Along the way, they dream up a new Goofy cartoon and badmouth Zootopia, so something of the old Before They Were Live survives! We're glad to be back, and we hope you're glad, too! Thanks for your patience. 
It's been a while, and it'll be a little longer, but Josh and Michial will be back on March 7 with the first in their series of episodes on Grimm's Fairy Tales. In March, they'll be discussing: The Companionship of the Cat and the MouseA Tale About a Boy Who Went Out to Learn What Fear WasThe Marvelous MinstrelThe Three SpinnersThe Three Little GnomesThe Three Snake LeavesThe Fisherman and His WifeThe Brave Little TailorThe Town Musicians of Bremen
Josh and Michial are back for their last awards episode, featuring their Five Tiers of Movies lists! Listen as they shock and horrify each other with their choices. 
Josh and Michial are back for another round of canon wrap-up, including questions on love, best messages, heroes and heroines, Disney legends, and more!
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