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Bell Curve breaks down the most important themes in crypto for people who, like us, are confined to the middle of the bell curve. Each season explores a different thesis that we'll test and refine through debate with crypto's best. If you're a crypto native, degen or investooor, this podcast is for you.
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In this episode, we dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of liquid restaking. Our expert panel unpacks the history and rise of Liquid Restaking Tokens, exploring LRT design, yield strategies, the leverage dynamics between LRTs and Eigen Layer, and the potential impact of introducing multi-assets like Bitcoin. We examine the challenges posed by duration mismatches, the institutional appetite for liquid restaking, and the evolving market structure. Thanks for tuning in!
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:24) History & Rise of LRTs
(11:35) LSTs vs LRTs
(17:27) Kinto Ad
(18:21) Demand for Liquid Restaking
(34:19) Cosmos & Polkadot Lessons Learned
(50:06) Cosmos & Polkadot Lessons Learned
(1:00:18) Institutions & LRTs
(1:04:47) Multi-Asset Restaking
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
In this episode of Bell Curve, we are joined by Nitesh Nath, Xave Meegan and Maghnus Mareneck to discuss the economic driver of blockchains: MEV. Miner Extractable Value (MEV) is often called the most exciting and complex industry within crypto. Listen to this episode, and you'll catch the fever! In this episode, we discuss how AppChains can optimize MEV, payment for order flow (PFOF), MEV value accrual, cross-chain MEV, the role of wallets and more! You won't want to miss this one.
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Timestamps
(00:00) Intro: Pre-Interview
(01:15) The MEV Value Chain
(08:35) How AppChains Can Optimize MEV
(16:24) MEV in Solana and General Purpose Chains
(25:18) Osmosis’ ProtoRev Module
(29:00) AppChains vs General Purpose Chains
(30:41) What Should Protocols Prioritize?
(37:15) Rollup MEV and Shared Sequencers
(46:30) The Value Prop for Users and Wallets
(48:06) Complexities of Cross-Chain MEV
(52:30) Wallets: The Role of Middleware
(56:44) Debating What is Good vs Bad MEV
(1:04:30) Recap: Post-Interview
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Chorus One
https://chorus.one/
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DFlow
https://dflow.net/
https://twitter.com/DFlowProtocol
Skip Protocol
https://skip.money/
https://twitter.com/skipprotocol
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
This episode of Bell Curve explores the bear market rally and ETH’s monetary design. We start with our views on the recent market rally - have prices bottomed, or are we witnessing a dead cat bounce? What should we expect for 2023?
We then discuss ETH's unique monetary policy, MakerDAO’s counterparty risk, Optimism vs Arbitrum, private fundraising, Su Zhu's false redemption arc and more!
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Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(01:00) A Bear Market Rally
(12:10) Optimism vs Arbitrum
(17:20) Genesis Bankruptcy Rumors
(22:28) MakerDAO’s Counterparty Risk
(28:28) Raising Funds in a Bear Market
(34:30) ETH’s Monetary Policy
(48:01) ETH Staking Withdrawal Queue
(50:05) Bitzlato and Bitcoin Narratives
(1:00:50) Su Zhu and Kyle are Back
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Resources
Ryan Watkins tweet on Ethereum innovation cycles
https://bit.ly/3ZPirug
ETH 7.5% APR tweet
https://bit.ly/3Wmua0w
ETH withdrawal queue thread (by Westie)
https://twitter.com/WestieCapital/status/1613645213792366595
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Season 3 | Pilot
Layer One protocols have dominated the value capture narrative since Ethereum's inception, but a new narrative is forming: the AppChain Thesis. This thesis predicts crypto's top applications will not rent land and conform to the limitations of other platforms (e.g. Ethereum) but will launch their own independent chain. An AppChain.
How should applications approach this decision? Where will value accrue? What are the pros and cons? Will applications prove stickier than protocols? These are just a few questions we'll explore in Bell Curve Season 3. Get ready!
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Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(00:35) Meet Myles, Our New Co-Host
(03:35) Why the AppChain Thesis?
(07:12) Season 3 Overview
(14:45) The Fat App Thesis
(18:38) AppChain Tradeoffs
(23:36) Where Cosmos and Ethereum Collide
(26:30) The Market Opportunity
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Resources:
Fat Protocols by Joel Monegro
https://www.usv.com/writing/2016/08/fat-protocols/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
It's here, our 2023 predictions episode! We debate if the market's bottomed, CeFi vs DeFi market share dynamics, L2s vs a multichain future, Bitcoin's new narrative, the Wallet Wars, MEV as the primary business model and more. Sit back, relax and get ready for the team to drop some knowledge.
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Timestamps
Introduction (00:00)
Have Markets Bottomed? (02:20)
What Projects Gain/Lose Market Share? (17:18)
zkEVMs Disappoint (23:51)
The Multichain Future Debate (26:38)
Bitcoin’s Future (37:25)
Visa & Mastercard Will Double Down on Crypto (39:54)
Ava labs (43:55)
The Wallet Wars (45:10)
MEV & Payment for Order Flow (53:30)
The Rise of Guilds (59:00)
Tech Disruption (01:01:59)
NFTs Become a Core Business Strategy (01:14:04)
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Core, from Ava Labs, is more than just a wallet. It’s a free, non-custodial browser extension that gives Avalanche users a more seamless and secure Web3 experience. Download Core today at https://www.core.app/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Have DAOs failed? Can projects successfully democratize decision-making and capital allocation? What can DAOs learn from corporate governance? What is "business-governance fit" and how can we use this concept to design DAO frameworks?
These are just a few of the questions we will explore in Season 2 of Bell Curve. In this Season 2 pilot episode, we describe our DAO thesis and give a sneak peek of what's coming next!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:29) Season 2’s Thesis: Finding Business-Governance Fit
(25:29) Our Upcoming Guests
(28:29) Outro
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Resources:
Business-Governance Fit (Chris Ahn)
https://station.mirror.xyz/xjAWfo9cqLDLTjU2eamDIvuK09QrawY1nk5MXaXmZT4
Progressive Decentralization (Variant Fund)
https://variant.fund/articles/progressive-decentralization-a-playbook-for-building/
DAOs Are Not Corporations (Vitalik)
https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/09/20/daos.html
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Core, from Ava Labs, is more than just a wallet. It’s a free, non-custodial browser extension that gives Avalanche users a more seamless and secure Web3 experience. Download Core today at https://www.core.app/
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Reserve Protocol aims to protect consumers from the effects of high inflation and hopes to one day eradicate it.
It's a self-service, permissionless factory where anyone can build, deploy and govern their own asset-backed stablecoins (RTokens), which can be integrated within DeFi and real-world commerce.
The Reserve App is a user-friendly way for ordinary people to buy RSV stablecoin with their local currencies and use them locally. More info at https://reserve.org/
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Binance is officially acquiring FTX. I never thought I'd type those words. What just happened? How did FTX go from a market-leading exchange to near insolvency? Is there contagion risk, and how will regulators respond? Tune in to find out!
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Core, from Ava Labs, is more than just a wallet. It’s a free, non-custodial browser extension that gives Avalanche users a more seamless and secure Web3 experience. Download Core today at https://www.core.app/
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In this episode of Bell Curve, we discuss the bloodshed happening in big tech and the likelihood of multiple bankruptcies in the Bitcoin mining market. What happens next, and who will make it out on top? We then discuss Apple's new NFT policy, Reddit onboarding 3M+ users to crypto, why VC-backed chains could be in trouble and the future of DeFi regulation.
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Timestamps:
(02:15) Snap & Facebook Wrecked, What’s Next?
(22:37) Bitcoin Miners Eye Bankruptcy
(34:50) Apple’s New NFT Policy? Bullish
(40:57) Reddit Onboards 3M+ People To Crypto
(47:26) VC Chains In Trouble?
(57:08) SBF & DeFi Regulation
(01:05:53) Elon & Twitter. Meant to be?
(01:11:52) Outro
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Resources:
Bitcoin treasuries
https://bitcointreasuries.net/
SBF's article on proposed crypto regulation
https://www.ftxpolicy.com/posts/possible-digital-asset-industry-standards
Elon walks into Twitter HQ with a sink
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585341984679469056
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In this Season 1 finale, Mike and Jason review the fixed-rate lending thesis and discuss their biggest takeaways. Will debt be a major component of DAOs going forward? Is the infrastructure in place to support this? What major innovations do we see coming next? Tune in to find out!
P.S. Get ready for Season 2, coming out on November 2nd!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:43) Biggest Takeaways From Season 1
(14:12) Innovation Is Coming
(26:26) Season 2 Preview
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In this episode of Bell Curve, we discuss the state of VC markets and fundraising 101. What should founders look out for when fundraising? Why do terms often matter more than valuation, and how should founders think about anti-dilution? We answer these questions and more in this fundraising segment.
We then explore the current macro environment, the Mango exploit and dangers of oracle pricing, the upcoming midterms and reasons to be optimistic!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:05) VCs, Term Sheets & Fundraising
(21:39) Finding Value Despite Inflation
(31:16) Mango Exploit, Oracle Pricing & Risk Management
Midterms, Regulation & Yuga Labs Investigation
(44:36) Scaling Season
(50:13) Why Be Optimistic?
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Resources:
GCR "insider" tweet
https://twitter.com/GCRClassic/status/1579837794675216384
Alf CPI tweet
https://twitter.com/MacroAlf/status/1580538848194330624
The Macro Trading Floor podcast
https://spoti.fi/3EGriXd
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Season 1 | Episode 7
In this episode of Bell Curve, Jason and Dan are joined by Stani Kulechov & Robert Leshner, two of the best builders in crypto, to discuss DeFi's transformation and upcoming catalysts.
We cover all of Season One's biggest topics, including CeFi's implosion, uncollateralized lending, fixed rates, duration debt, RWAs, staking yields and vertical app integration. We then cap the conversation with the question we all want to know: what will catalyze the next DeFi bull market? Trust me, it's worth the listen.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(04:23) A Structural Tailwind for all of DeFi
(09:44) Uncollateralized vs Collateralized Lending
(17:10) DAO Capital Markets
(27:07) Fixed Rates & Long Duration Loans
(36:46) How ETH’s Staking Yield Impacts DeFi
(43:49) Bringing Off-Chain Assets to DeFi & Censorship Resistance
(52:44) GHO, Protocol Specific Stablecoins & Vertical Integration
(01:00:27) Compound Gateway, Cosmos & Cross-Chain Bridges
(01:04:20) DeFi Summer 2.0?
(01:17:39) The Permissioned DeFi Thesis
(01:22:12) Post Interview
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In this episode of Bell Curve's Weekly Roundup, we discuss one area of the market many aren’t paying attention to, private order flow (POF). As well as POF, Sushiswap announced a new head chef, MakerDAO plans to invest $500M in US treasurys and many VCs are looking to gaming for the next big opportunity in crypto? To hear all this and more, you’ll have to tune in!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:30) Sushiswap Brings In A New Head Chef
(15:38) Uniswap & The App-Chain Thesis
(28:15) Private Order Flow Is The New MEV
(40:30) The Biggest Winners In MEV
(43:00) Gaming: Crypto’s Biggest Opportunity
(1:02:30) MakerDAO To Invest $500M in US Treasurys & Corporate Bonds
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SushiSwap ‘Head Chef’ Election Settled by GoldenTree, Cumberland https://blockworks.co/sushiswap-election-settled-by-goldentree-cumberland/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Season 1 | Episode 6
In this episode of Bell Curve, Jason and Mike are joined by Ben Forman, the founder of ParaFi, to discuss the demand for on-chain debt. We explore DeFi's capital markets, the massive opportunity of DAO-driven borrowing and the future of on-chain lending.
What opportunities are created by programmable loans? Will DAOs issue debt to lower their cost of capital? Where will the demand come from? Tune in to learn these answers and more!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:15) What’s Missing in DeFi Capital Markets?
(14:23) Programmable Loans & Debt Covenants
(22:35) Ribbon DAO’s Bond Issuance
(28:33) Permissioned Pools, DeFi’s TAM and CeFi Frontends
(35:38) The ETH Staking Yield Opportunity & Securitizing MEV
(41:37) On-Chain DAO Borrowing
(44:36) Maker DAOs End Game, RWAs and Importing TradFi Yields
(50:49) The Fixed Rate Debt Catalyst
(56:57) Speculation and Borrowing Demand
(01:07:17) Post Interview
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Resources:
Ribbon's Bond Issuance
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In this episode of Bell Curve's Weekly Roundup, the Blockworks Research team takes over the pod! We start with a debate on the implications of ATOM 2.0 and USDC launching on Cosmos. Is ATOM no longer a meme coin? Does everything revolve around MEV? What opportunities does native USDC unlock for the Cosmos ecosystem?
We then discuss the feasibility of reversible on-chain transactions, the next NFT catalyst and how Polygon is a relentless business development machine. Tune in for all of this and more! And don't worry - Jason, Mike, Vance and Michael will be back next week.
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Timestamps:
(00:00 Introduction
(01:15) ATOM 2.0 & USDC Cosmos Announcement
(20:09) GMX MEV Opportunity Explained
(23:33) Politicians Continue to Fight Crypto
(26:37) Centre & USDC Dominance
(29:45) Reversible Transactions
(38:41) The Next NFT Catalyst
(42:22) Polygon’s Business Development
(47:39) Blockworks Research
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Youssef Amrani's tweet on ATOM 2.0
https://bit.ly/3RwU1Re
Polka tweet on GMX MEV Opportunity
https://bit.ly/3LRO2VR
Blockworks Research Twitter
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Blockworks Research Newsletter
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Season 1 | Episode 5
In this episode of Bell Curve, Jason and Mike are joined by Tristan Frizza (Zeta Markets) and Uddhav Marwaha (Friktion) to discuss the world of on-chain derivatives and liquidity. TradFi's derivatives market is magnitudes larger than spot, but on-chain derivatives are just getting started in crypto.
Why does crypto need derivatives like options and perpetuals? What type of users will use these products? And why is it so challenging to build these products on-chain? Tune in to learn these answers and more!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:05) The State of DeFi Derivatives
(05:58) Who Wants These Products?
(07:43) The Major Challenges of On-Chain Derivatives
(11:22) Building on Solana vs Other Chains
(16:35) Market Maker Incentives, CLOBs and AMMs
(22:55) Perps, Power Perps and Options
(28:27) The Fixed-Rate, Uncollateralized Lending Unlock
(36:21) High-Frequency Trading in TradFi and DeFi
(42:31) How Big is the Market Opportunity?
(46:52) Finding Product Market Fit
(51:51) Post Interview Thoughts
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Resources:
Zee Prime's DeFi options article
https://zeeprime.capital/a-lot-of-on-chain-options-but-few-to-exercise
Paradigm gradual dutch auctions article
https://www.paradigm.xyz/2022/04/gda
Doug Colkitt on AMMs & CLOBS
https://twitter.com/0xdoug/status/1565446246957023234
Zeta Markets
https://www.zeta.markets/
Friktion
https://friktion.fi/
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In this episode of Bell Curve, we introduce the gaming mega thesis. Markets are an absolute mess, 99% of tokens won't hit their ATHs again, most old narratives will die, and the market is begging for a new catalyst. Could gaming be the catalyst we all need? Tune in to find out.
We then discuss the newly proposed stablecoin regulation, the merits of protocol-specific stablecoins, the $160 Wintermute hack, why most DAO governance fails and more. We keep it spicy, brief and fun - what else could you want?
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:12) A Macro Mess & San Francisco's Turnaround?
(06:49) Why 99% of Tokens Are F*cked
(17:49) The Gaming Mega Thesis
(32:58) Modular Infrastructure
(36:11) Stablecoin Regulation
(43:45) Protocol Specific Stablecoins
(49:32) GMX “Exploit” & Oracle Based Pricing
(55:42) $160M Wintermute Hack
(01:02:52) Vitalik & DAO Governance
(01:10:57) Meme of the Week
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San Francisco real estate crash
https://bit.ly/3DQfDEL
Gabriel Leydon podcast on crypto gaming
https://spoti.fi/3SlxoQi
Chris Dixon's article on crypto network affects
https://bit.ly/3xL1dSJ
Vitalik's DAO governance article
https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/09/20/daos.html
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Season 1 | Episode 4
In this episode of Bell Curve, Jason and Mike are joined by Sid Powell (Maple Finance) and Teddy Woodward (Notional) to discuss the opportunity and complexity of on-chain uncollateralized lending.
We also explore the need for hyper-efficient capital, the importance of fixed rates in a low-margin environment, financing RWAs, on-chain credit scores and more!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:27) On-Chain Uncollateralized Lending
(16:52) DAO Borrowers
(27:54) Finding Product Market Fit
(34:36) Changing Interest Rate Environments
(38:24) Financing RWAs
(43:07) Fixed Rate Demand, Why Now?
(56:04) Projections for the Next 2-3 Years
(01:04:38) Debt-Driven Market Bubbles
(01:11:39) On-Chain Credit Scores
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Resources:
Standard Oil Part I podcast
https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/standard-oil-part-i
Notional
https://www.notional.finance/
Maple Finance
https://www.maple.finance/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
In this episode of Bell Curve, we debate what the merge means for ETH long-term, why ESG ETH is a prime selling point and the PoS vs PoW debate. We then discuss the Cosmos thesis, MEV frameworks, the return of CeDeFi, why your NFT is not equity and more.
As usual, this episode is packed full of alpha and spicy takes.
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Timestamps
(00:00) Intro
(02:01) The Merge, ESG ETH & PoS vs PoW Debate
(16:37) Cosmos Thesis, Aggregation and Gaming
(28:20) Blockchain Monetization & MEV Frameworks
(38:14) Compound Treasury, Bringing Institutional Fire Power to DeFi
(44:35) CeDeFi is Back & Tokenized Treasuries
(52:35) Fidelity Bitcoin Announcement & Evaluating New Projects
(1:00:01) Starbucks NFTs, Open Systems & Product Customer Mismatches
(1:11:43) Memes of the Week
(1:16:48) Doodles $704M Valuation & NFTs Aren't Equity
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Resources:
Delphi Cosmos Report
https://members.delphidigital.io/reports/finding-a-home-for-labs
SBF tweet thread on Coinbase earnings
https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1458205105124257793
Brian Armstrong's tweet on Coinbase's new politician feature
https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1570133078022160384?
CoinShares' MakerDAO proposal
https://forum.makerdao.com/t/mip86-coinshares-usdc-institutional-rewards/17900
Compound Treasury announcement
https://bit.ly/3QOZTVs
Ledger meets Cobie tweet
https://twitter.com/ledgerstatus/status/1570450674902568960?
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
In this episode of Bell Curve, Jason and Mike are joined by Simon Jones (Voltz Labs) and Allan Niemerg (Yield Protocol) to explore the new use cases that fixed-rate lending and interest rate swaps bring to DeFi.
We also discuss how crypto is structurally variable, why financial markets need interest rate swaps, DeFi's base rate, DAO-to-DAO undercollateralized lending and much more!
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Timestamps
(00:00) Intro
(02:49) DeFi is structurally variable
(10:54) The ETH base rate & a DeFi native yield curve
(14:52) Interest rate swaps: 3 primary use cases
(19:17) DeFi use cases & undercollateralized lending
(30:24) Why are fixed rate markets in DeFi so small?
(42:36) A crypto-based sovereign debt market
(46:52) Will yield come from IRL assets or crypto-native sources?
(51:45) Fixed rates may catalyze the next bull cycle
(59:47) Post interview: takeaways
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Resources:
Yield Protocol
https://yieldprotocol.com/
Voltz Protocol
https://www.voltz.xyz/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
In this episode of Bell Curve, we discuss the upcoming merge and why ETH PoW may be a letdown for you degens. We also debate real vs nominal yields in crypto, the merits of the Coinbase MakerDAO deal, BUSD and the exchange race, on-chain IP and more.
As usual, this episode is packed full of alpha and spicy takes.
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(00:00) Introduction
(00:40) ETH Merge Chaos
(13:02) Real Yield & Structural Flows
(26:00) Coinbase/MakerDAO Proposal
(38:02) DAI, USDC and Crypto’s Regulatory Future
(53:15) BUSD Announcement & the Big 3 Exchanges
(1:07:50) Sorare, SudoSwap and On-Chain IP
(1:15:10) Meme of the Week
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Resources:
Acquired podcast on Standard Oil
https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/standard-oil-part-i
SBF tweet thread on Coinbase earnings
https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1458205105124257793
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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