Beyond Jaws: Exploring Shark Science and Conservation

Dr. David Ebert and Andrew Lewin interview shark scientists and conservationists to find out the steps they took that lead them to study and work with sharks. Interviews include stories of field shenanigans; career choices and advice; and, the science of sharks that may or may not include great white sharks...mostly not.

Shark Science to Academy Fellow: Dr. Michelle Heupel's Journey

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. Dave Ebert welcome back Dr. Michelle Heupel, who has recently been appointed as a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technology, Science, and Engineering (ATSE). This prestigious recognition highlights her significant contributions to applied science, particularly in marine research and shark science. Dr. Heupel, the director of the Australian Integrated Marine Observing System (IMOS), is noted for being the first shark researcher to be inducted into the ATSE. Her nomination was based on her innovative work tracking sharks and utilizing technology to enhance marine management practices. The ATSE focuses on real-world applications of science and technology, and Dr. Heupel's induction reflects her commitment to driving change and providing valuable insights into marine ecosystems. During the interview, Dr. Heupel discusses the benefits of her fellowship, which includes joining a community of over 900 esteemed scientists who contribute to government policy and address pressing global issues. She emphasizes the importance of collaboration among scientists from various disciplines to tackle challenges such as climate change and coastal erosion. The episode highlights Dr. Heupel's journey from shark research to a leadership role in marine observing systems, showcasing her dedication to science and her desire to make a lasting impact on both marine conservation and broader scientific communities. Connect with Michelle:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michelleheupel/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

12-16
48:57

The Intersection of Shark Conservation and Community Safety: Dr. Chris Lowe's Journey

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, Dr. Chris Lowe discusses the future of the Shark Lab at California State University, Long Beach, reflecting on its past research and the challenges it currently faces. Key Points: California Shark Beach Safety Program: The Shark Lab has been instrumental in developing this state-funded program in response to the increasing presence of white sharks along California beaches. The program focuses on providing lifeguards with essential information to ensure public safety while also protecting the sharks. Research and Technology: The lab has utilized advanced technologies such as acoustic telemetry, satellite telemetry, drones, and stable isotopes to monitor white shark populations and their behaviors. This research has led to significant insights into shark behavior, including their interactions with humans and their feeding patterns. Education and Outreach: The Shark Lab has implemented educational programs for lifeguards, recreational fishers, and K-12 students to improve understanding and safety regarding sharks. These initiatives aim to reduce fear and promote conservation by educating the public about shark behavior and the ecological importance of these animals. Funding Challenges: Despite the success of the Shark Lab's programs, funding has become a critical issue. The lab is currently facing budget cuts and has had to lay off staff. Dr. Lowe is actively seeking private funding to sustain and expand the lab's research and outreach efforts. Future Directions: Dr. Lowe emphasizes the importance of continued research and public education to foster a better understanding of sharks. He believes that with proper funding, the lab can answer complex questions about shark behavior and ecology that were previously thought impossible. In summary, while the Shark Lab has made significant strides in shark research and public education, its future depends on securing adequate funding to continue its vital work in conservation and community safety. The Shark Lab: https://www.csulb.edu/shark-lab Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

12-09
01:02:36

A Career in Science Communication for Manta Rays with Jasmine Corbett

A career in science communication wasn't exactly what our guest, Jasmine Corbett, expected when she grew up, but now she is the Media and Communications Manager at the Manta Trust living out her dream to help share their work with the world.  In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dave Ebert interview Jasmine Corbett, the Media and Communications Manager for the Manta Trust. Jasmine shares her unique journey into the field of science communication, highlighting her passion for underwater photography and marine biology. Jasmine grew up in a creative family, initially envisioning a career in traditional photography. However, after discovering scuba diving during a gap year in Thailand, she shifted her focus to marine and natural history photography. She pursued a degree in Marine and Natural History Photography at Falmouth University, where she learned to combine her artistic skills with a passion for marine conservation. Her career began with various roles in marine conservation, including working as a dive instructor and managing marine conservation projects in the Maldives. During her time in Baa Atoll, she had a transformative experience witnessing manta rays, which deepened her commitment to their conservation. Jasmine's connection with the Manta Trust began while working as a marine biologist for Reefscapers, where she collaborated with the Manta Trust on research projects. Her photography and videography skills caught the attention of the Manta Trust's founder, leading to her current role in media and communications. In this position, she is responsible for creating compelling visual content that raises awareness about manta ray conservation and engages the public. Throughout the episode, Jasmine emphasizes the importance of visual media in science communication, noting that it can transcend language and academic barriers. She discusses the challenges of conveying complex scientific information in an accessible way, particularly when addressing serious issues like the threats faced by manta rays. Jasmine's approach involves crafting narratives that include a beginning, middle, and end, focusing on the context, challenges, and solutions to inspire action and hope among audiences. Overall, Jasmine's career exemplifies the integration of creative passions with scientific communication, showcasing how visual storytelling can effectively promote conservation efforts and engage diverse audiences. Manta Trust: https://www.mantatrust.org/ Jasmine Corbett's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasminecorbettphoto/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

11-28
01:14:02

Behind the Mic: Exploring Shark Conservation with Mark Packer

In this bonus episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert interview Mark Packer, the host of the newly launched Shark Trust podcast. The episode highlights Mark's journey into marine conservation and his role at the Shark Trust, a nonprofit organization dedicated to shark and ray conservation. Mark shares that his interest in marine conservation began in childhood, inspired by nature shows and his sister's explorations in the garden. Although he initially pursued a career in nursing, he eventually transitioned to marine conservation after completing his MSc in marine conservation from the University of Plymouth in 2021. His connection with the Shark Trust began when he met Paul Cox, the organization's CEO, during a half marathon, which led to his employment at the Trust. The Shark Trust podcast, launched in May 2023, aims to delve into the complexities of shark conservation and engage listeners with in-depth discussions about the organization's work. Mark emphasizes the importance of using podcasts as a medium to educate the public about shark conservation, as they allow for longer, more detailed conversations compared to traditional press releases or emails. In the first series of the podcast, Mark interviews various team members from the Shark Trust, discussing their roles and the challenges sharks face globally. The episodes cover topics such as international fisheries, conservation policies, and the intricacies of shark management. Mark expresses his desire to expand the podcast in future series to include discussions on successful shark conservation efforts and the potential challenges that may arise. Overall, the episode showcases Mark's passion for marine conservation and the Shark Trust's commitment to educating the public about the importance of protecting sharks and rays. The podcast serves as a valuable resource for anyone interested in learning more about the complexities of shark conservation and how they can get involved. Shark Trust Podcast: https://youtu.be/WzoPWfa3aBM?si=y-iyMpF9lJ4DB6On Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

11-11
38:37

From Ohio to Oregon: The Journey of a Shark Scientist with Dr. Alexandra McInturf

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, Dr. Alexandra McInturf shares her journey in shark science and conservation, highlighting her impressive academic and research background. Originally from Cincinnati, Ohio, a landlocked state, Alexandra developed a passion for marine biology and sharks at a young age, inspired by a family trip to Florida and the influence of Shark Week. She graduated cum laude from Williams College with degrees in biology and English, later earning her PhD in animal behavior from the University of California, Davis. Her doctoral research focused on basking sharks and involved significant citizen science efforts. Despite challenges, including not seeing basking sharks during her fieldwork in Ireland, she pivoted her research to utilize existing data and collaborated with other researchers, including Dr. David Ebert. Currently, Alexandra is a research associate at Oregon State University's Big Fish Lab, where she examines the foraging ecology of salmon sharks and investigates the impacts of microplastics on marine life. She is also involved in community engagement and outreach, aiming to raise awareness about sharks in Oregon, a state often overlooked in shark research. One of her notable recent projects involved studying a ship strike incident involving a basking shark, which underscored the importance of understanding human impacts on marine species. Alexandra emphasizes the significance of mentorship and science communication in her work, striving to make shark science more inclusive and accessible to the public. Through her efforts, she aims to contribute to the conservation of threatened marine species and foster a greater understanding of their ecological roles. Alexandra's Personal Website: https://alexandramcinturf.squarespace.com/ Chapple Big Fish Lab: https://marineresearch.oregonstate.edu/chapple-lab/meet-chapple-big-fish-lab Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

11-04
01:15:22

Celebrating 100 Episodes: A Journey Through Shark Science and Conservation

In this special 100th episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, hosts Andrew and Dr. David Ebert reflect on their journey over the past four years and the significance of reaching this milestone. They express gratitude for the support they've received from listeners and guests, highlighting the diverse voices and stories shared throughout the episodes. The discussion delves into the podcast's origins, emphasizing its goal to provide a platform for marine scientists, conservationists, and communicators to share their experiences and insights. They note the importance of showcasing not only established figures in shark science but also early-career researchers and professionals from various backgrounds, including illustrators and filmmakers. Andrew and Dave reminisce about their first episodes, featuring pioneers from the "Jaws generation," and how the podcast has evolved to include a global audience, with guests from over 40 countries. They celebrate the unique stories shared by individuals from different cultures and the challenges they face in the field of shark research and conservation. The hosts also reflect on the collaborative efforts that have made the podcast successful, including partnerships with organizations like the Save Our Seas Foundation, which provided initial funding and support. They acknowledge the hard work that goes into producing each episode, including the recent symposium on wedge fish and guitar fish, which featured numerous international contributors. As they look forward to the next 100 episodes, Andrew and Dave express their excitement for continuing to connect with new guests and explore various aspects of shark science and conservation. They invite listeners to engage with the podcast, share their thoughts, and help spread awareness about the importance of ocean conservation. In closing, the episode features congratulatory messages from past guests, reinforcing the podcast's impact on the community and the importance of sharing knowledge and passion for marine life. The hosts emphasize their commitment to inspiring others and fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities of shark science. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

10-21
45:36

Remembering Dr. Leonard Campagno: A Giant in Shark Biology

In this special bonus episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-host Dave Ebert pays tribute to his former advisor, Dr. Leonard Campagno, a prominent figure in shark biology, ecology, and taxonomy, who passed away on September 24, 2024. Dave shares heartfelt memories and stories from his 40-year relationship with Leonard, reflecting on the impact he had on the field and on his students. Listeners will gain insight into Leonard's influential work, including his groundbreaking classification of sharks, rays, and chimeras. Join Dave in celebrating the life and legacy of a true giant in marine science. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

10-07
53:53

From Cape Cod to the Keys: Dr. Grace Casselberry and the Eugenie Clark Award

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert welcome Dr. Grace Casselberry, the sixth recipient of the prestigious Eugenie Clark Award from the American Elasmobranch Society. Dr. Casselberry, a postdoctoral student at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, shares her inspiring journey in marine biological research, highlighting her dedication, perseverance, and innovative contributions to the study of elasmobranchs, including sharks and rays. Listeners can look forward to insights into her accomplishments, future aspirations, and the impactful work she has done in public outreach and research. Join us for an engaging conversation about the importance of marine conservation and the legacy of Eugenie Clark! Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Dr. Grace Casselberry: A Rising Star in Shark Research Dr. Grace Casselberry, the sixth recipient of the Eugenie Clark Award from the American Elasmobranch Society, has made significant strides in the field of shark research. As a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, her work focuses on the spatial ecology of various shark species, predator-prey dynamics, and the effects of catch-and-release angling on striped bass. Her journey into marine science and shark research is both inspiring and illustrative of her dedication to the field. Early Influences and Education Grace's interest in marine science was sparked during her childhood summers spent in Cape Cod, Massachusetts, where she developed a love for the ocean through fishing with her grandfather. Unlike many marine scientists who have been fascinated by sharks since childhood, Grace's path was more gradual. It wasn't until her undergraduate studies at the University of Connecticut, where she took a fish biology class, that she realized she could turn her passion for fishing into a career studying fish. After completing her Bachelor's degree in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Grace interned at the Panama City Lab, where she gained hands-on experience with sharks. This internship solidified her interest in movement ecology and led her to pursue a Master's degree at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, where she studied the residency and habitat use of various shark species in a marine protected area. Research Focus and Achievements Grace's Master's research involved tagging and tracking tiger sharks, lemon sharks, nurse sharks, and Caribbean reef sharks in Buck Island Reef National Monument in St. Croix. Her findings revealed that these species spent over 50% of their tagged days within the marine protected area, underscoring its importance for shark conservation. For her PhD, Grace shifted her focus to great hammerhead sharks in the Florida Keys, where she investigated their movement patterns and interactions with the recreational tarpon fishery. Her research uncovered that approximately 15% of hooked tarpon were consumed by hammerheads, raising concerns about the impact of shark predation on the tarpon population. In addition to her shark research, Grace has also worked on critically endangered sawfish, conducting juvenile nursery area habitat assessments in Everglades National Park. This work involved catching and tagging juvenile sawfish to better understand their habitat use and population dynamics. The Importance of Funding and Collaboration Throughout her academic journey, Grace has actively sought funding to support her research. She has applied for various grants, including the prestigious Dr. Nancy Foster Scholarship from NOAA, which allowed her to pursue her PhD. Grace emphasizes the importance of persistence in grant writing, noting that rejection is a common part of the process. She encourages aspiring researchers to apply for funding opportunities, as they are essential for advancing scientific knowledge and conservation efforts. Grace's collaborations with organizations such as Bonefish and Tarpon Trust and the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary have also been instrumental in her research. These partnerships have provided valuable resources and support, enabling her to conduct fieldwork and share her findings with stakeholders in the fishing community. Recognition and Future Aspirations Receiving the Eugenie Clark Award is a significant milestone in Grace's career, recognizing her perseverance, dedication, and innovation in shark research. She hopes to continue her work in applied conservation and management, focusing on the intersection of marine animal movement and fisheries management. Grace's journey serves as an inspiration to early-career scientists, particularly women in marine science, as she exemplifies the impact of passion, hard work, and collaboration in advancing our understanding of marine ecosystems. The importance of grant writing and securing funding is a critical aspect of a successful career in marine science, as highlighted by Dr. Grace Casselberry in her interview on the Beyond Jaws podcast. Grace emphasizes that her experience with grant writing has been somewhat unique, as she has actively pursued funding to support her research projects, particularly during her PhD and postdoctoral work. Grace began writing grant proposals while finishing her master's thesis, recognizing that her lab did not have the resources to fully support her PhD work. This proactive approach allowed her to secure funding, which was essential for her to continue her research on sharks and other marine species. She notes that the process of applying for grants can be challenging, as it often involves competing against many other talented researchers with compelling ideas. One of the key takeaways from Grace's experience is the reality of rejection in the grant writing process. She candidly shares that she has applied for more grants than she has received, which is a common experience for many researchers. Grace highlights that while rejections can be disheartening, they are not personal and often reflect the competitive nature of funding opportunities. She encourages aspiring scientists to persist despite setbacks, stating, "You're never going to get the money if you don't try to get the money." Grace also emphasizes the importance of learning from feedback received on grant applications. For instance, after applying for the Dr. Nancy Foster scholarship and not receiving it initially, she was able to use the feedback to improve her proposal for the next application cycle, ultimately leading to her success. This illustrates the significance of resilience and adaptability in the grant writing process. In summary, Grace's experiences underscore that grant writing is not only a necessary skill for securing funding but also an opportunity for researchers to articulate their ideas and the importance of their work. Her journey reflects the challenges and rewards of navigating the funding landscape in marine science, highlighting the need for persistence, learning from rejection, and the ability to tell a compelling story about one's research.  

10-01
01:05:31

From Australia to Timor-Leste: A Journey to Rediscover Lost Shark Species

In this special episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-host Dr. David Ebert takes center stage as he shares the exciting details of his latest expedition to Australia and Southeast Asia in search of lost sharks. Join Andrew as he interviews David about the challenges and adventures he faced during the trip, as well as the thrilling potential discoveries that may have emerged. Tune in to find out whether David’s quest was successful and to hear about the fascinating aspects of shark conservation that emerged from this unique journey. Don’t miss this chance to dive deep into the world of sharks with our expert co-host! Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG The Importance of Collaboration and Networking in Scientific Research In the realm of scientific research, particularly in fields like marine biology and conservation, collaboration and networking are essential, especially when exploring new regions and engaging with local communities. The podcast episode featuring Dr. David Ebert highlights several key aspects of this importance. Building Relationships Dr. Ebert emphasizes that much of his research success stems from the relationships he has cultivated over the years. Networking with colleagues, local researchers, and community members is vital for gaining insights and support. For instance, during his trip to Timor-Leste, he connected with Dr. Lowe Clausen, who facilitated introductions to local government officials and the fishing community. This type of networking is invaluable, as it allows researchers to tap into local knowledge and resources that can significantly enhance their work. Local Expertise When venturing into new and less-explored regions, having local collaborators is crucial. They possess knowledge about the terrain, species, and cultural practices that outsiders may overlook. Dr. Ebert worked closely with local Timorese individuals from the World Fish organization. Their familiarity with the area and its ecosystems helped him navigate the challenges of conducting research in a country with limited infrastructure and resources. Cultural Sensitivity and Respect Collaboration also fosters cultural sensitivity. Dr. Ebert approaches his work with respect and humility, recognizing that he is a guest in these communities. He does not impose his ideas but rather offers information and support, allowing local stakeholders to decide how to use it. This approach not only builds trust but also ensures that the research is relevant and beneficial to the local population. Shared Goals and Capacity Building Collaboration often leads to shared goals, enhancing the impact of research. By working with local communities, researchers can align their objectives with the needs and priorities of those communities. Dr. Ebert's efforts to train local individuals in species identification and conservation practices exemplify this. By empowering local researchers and stakeholders, he helps build capacity for ongoing conservation efforts, ensuring that the work continues even after he leaves. Access to Resources and Funding Networking can also open doors to funding opportunities. Dr. Ebert's project was funded by the Save Our Seas Foundation, which supports initiatives aimed at conserving marine biodiversity. Collaborating with established organizations can provide researchers with the financial backing needed to conduct extensive fieldwork, as well as the credibility that comes from being associated with reputable institutions. Conclusion In summary, collaboration and networking are fundamental to successful scientific research, particularly in unfamiliar regions. By building relationships with local communities and experts, researchers can enhance their understanding of the ecosystems they study, ensure cultural sensitivity, and create a lasting impact through capacity building. Dr. Ebert's experiences underscore the importance of these elements in advancing marine conservation efforts and discovering new species, ultimately contributing to the broader goal of preserving our planet's biodiversity. The thrill and emotional rush of discovering new species is a profound experience for scientists like Dr. David Ebert, who likens it to the excitement of Christmas morning for a child. This analogy captures the essence of the adrenaline and joy that accompany such discoveries, which often happen unexpectedly during fieldwork. Throughout the podcast episode, Dr. Ebert shares his experiences from his recent trip to Australia, Southeast Asia, and Timor-Leste, where he and his team were on a mission to find "lost sharks." The anticipation of encountering these elusive species creates a palpable excitement that fuels their daily endeavors. Each day is filled with the promise of discovery, akin to the thrill of unwrapping presents on Christmas morning. When a new species is found, the emotional response is a mix of exhilaration and disbelief. Dr. Ebert describes the moment when he and his team stumbled upon critically endangered sharks that had not been seen for years. The rush of adrenaline in these moments is overwhelming, as they realize they are on the verge of documenting something significant. This feeling is not just about the scientific achievement; it is also about the joy of exploration and the connection to nature. The podcast highlights how this excitement is infectious, inspiring the graduate students accompanying Dr. Ebert. They witness his unwavering enthusiasm and dedication, which serves as a motivating force throughout their long and challenging days in the field. The students find it inspiring to see someone with decades of experience still so passionate and energized by the prospect of discovery. In essence, the thrill of discovering new species is not merely a professional milestone; it is a deeply emotional experience that resonates with the innate curiosity and wonder that drives scientists. The combination of adrenaline, joy, and the sense of adventure creates a unique and fulfilling journey, making every moment spent in pursuit of knowledge worthwhile. The Necessity of Thorough Preparation and Awareness of Safety Concerns in Fieldwork Conducting fieldwork in remote and potentially hazardous environments, such as those described in Dr. David Ebert's recent trip to Australia, Southeast Asia, and Timor-Leste, requires meticulous preparation and a keen awareness of safety concerns. The challenges faced during such expeditions highlight the importance of being well-prepared and vigilant. 1. Logistical Planning Dr. Ebert emphasized the extensive logistics involved in planning his trip, which spanned five countries and included multiple flights and time zones. This level of complexity necessitates a thorough understanding of travel arrangements, including booking flights for a team of graduate students and coordinating with local collaborators. A well-structured itinerary is crucial to ensure that all team members are accounted for and that the research objectives can be met efficiently. 2. Research and Local Knowledge Preparation also involves researching the specific environments and species that will be encountered. Dr. Ebert mentioned the importance of understanding the local ecosystems and the species of sharks he was targeting. This knowledge not only aids in species identification but also helps in anticipating potential hazards associated with the local wildlife and environment. For instance, in Timor-Leste, Dr. Ebert learned about the presence of saltwater crocodiles, which posed a significant safety risk. Understanding the behavior and habitat of these animals was essential for ensuring the safety of the team while conducting research. Engaging with local experts and communities can provide invaluable insights into the risks present in the area. 3. Safety Protocols When working in environments like Northern Australia, where crocodiles are prevalent, adhering to established safety protocols is vital. Dr. Ebert noted that the university had specific guidelines to follow, which included staying within the confines of the boat while tagging river sharks to avoid crocodile attacks. This highlights the necessity of having clear safety measures in place to protect researchers from wildlife hazards. In contrast, when working in Timor-Leste, Dr. Ebert faced a different set of challenges, including poor infrastructure and the absence of emergency services. In such situations, being aware of the limitations and potential dangers of the environment is crucial. Dr. Ebert's approach involved relying on local knowledge and maintaining a high level of alertness to navigate safely through the terrain. 4. Health Precautions Fieldwork in tropical regions often comes with health risks, such as malaria and dengue fever. Dr. Ebert mentioned the importance of taking precautions against mosquito-borne diseases, which is another critical aspect of preparation. Ensuring that all team members are informed about health risks and have access to necessary vaccinations and medications is essential for a successful and safe expedition. 5. Building Relationships and Community Engagement Finally, Dr. Ebert's emphasis on building relationships with local communities underscores the importance of cultural awareness and respect. Engaging with local people not only facilitates smoother operations but also enhances safety. Locals can provide guidance on safe practices and areas to avoid, as well as share their knowledge about the environment. In conclusion, thorough preparation and awareness of safety concerns are paramount when conducting fieldwork in remote and potentially hazardous environments. From logistical planning and research to adhering to safety protocols and engaging

09-16
47:35

From Landlocked to Ocean Bound: Dr. Ivy Baremore's Journey in Marine Science

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert dive into an engaging conversation about living in Honduras and the allure of island life, especially for diving enthusiasts. They introduce their guest, Ivy Baremore, a newly minted PhD with extensive experience as a fisheries observer and work with the National Marine Fisheries Service. The hosts express their excitement about Ivy's career journey, particularly her move to Belize, and the various life changes she's experienced, including her recent marriage and navigating her PhD studies. Tune in to discover more about Ivy's fascinating adventures and insights into marine life and fisheries. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Dr. Ivy Barrymore's journey into marine biology and shark research is a compelling narrative that highlights the importance of early experiences and hands-on internships in shaping a successful career in the field. From a young age, Ivy exhibited a passion for marine biology, a dream ignited during childhood vacations to Dauphin Island, Alabama, where she spent time searching for shark teeth. This early fascination with the ocean laid the groundwork for her future endeavors. Ivy's academic path began at Florida State University, where she pursued a Bachelor of Science degree. During her undergraduate studies, she seized an internship opportunity with the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), which proved pivotal in her career. This internship provided her with practical experience in marine research, working on a project that involved analyzing mackerel otoliths (ear bones). The hands-on experience she gained solidified her interest in marine biology and equipped her with valuable skills for her future roles. After completing her undergraduate degree, Ivy continued to build her experience as a biological technician for NMFS in Panama City, Florida. This role allowed her to engage directly with marine species and deepened her understanding of the complexities of marine ecosystems. Her work involved monitoring shark pupping and nursery areas, further fueling her interest in shark research. Ivy's journey took another significant turn when she pursued her Master's degree at the University of Florida, focusing on the angel shark, Squatina dumerale. Her master's research was closely tied to her work with NMFS, as she leveraged the data collected during her time as a technician. This integration of academic pursuits with practical fieldwork exemplifies the importance of hands-on experience in marine science. Following her master's degree, Ivy returned to NMFS, where she continued her work in shark research for nearly a decade. Her role involved coordinating fisheries observer programs, providing her with further opportunities to collect biological data essential for stock assessments. The experience she gained during this time was invaluable, allowing her to collaborate with established scientists and contribute to significant research projects. Eventually, Ivy made the bold decision to move to Belize to work with Mar Alliance, a nonprofit organization focused on marine conservation. This transition marked a new chapter in her career, where she could apply her skills to address complex marine issues in a different context. The flexibility and creativity offered by working in a nonprofit environment allowed her to explore new research avenues, particularly in deep-sea fisheries. Throughout her journey, Ivy's commitment to hands-on experience has been a driving force in her career. Her internships and practical roles have not only provided her with essential skills but have also shaped her understanding of marine biology and shark research. As she pursued her Ph.D. at the University of Exeter while working full-time, Ivy's ability to integrate her research with her professional responsibilities further underscores the importance of experiential learning in marine science. Her story serves as an inspiring example for aspiring marine biologists, emphasizing that hands-on experience is crucial for success in this dynamic and ever-evolving field. The Journey of Dr. Ivy Barrymore in Marine Science Dr. Ivy Barrymore's journey in marine science is a fascinating tale of passion, perseverance, and adaptability. Her story begins with a childhood fascination with marine biology, sparked during family vacations to Dauphin Island, Alabama. Despite growing up landlocked in Arkansas, her love for the ocean deepened when her family moved to Hawaii during her sophomore year of high school. This significant transition not only exposed her to the marine environment but also solidified her desire to pursue a career in marine biology. Education and Early Career Ivy's academic path led her to Florida State University, where she pursued a Bachelor of Science degree. During her undergraduate studies, she interned at the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), which became a pivotal experience in her career. This internship allowed her to work on a project involving mackerel and otoliths, providing her with hands-on experience in marine research. After graduating, she continued her journey with NMFS, where she worked for several years before returning to graduate school to obtain her Master's degree at the University of Florida, focusing on the angel shark. Her master's research was particularly noteworthy as it addressed a significant gap in knowledge regarding the angel shark, a species listed as prohibited due to insufficient data on its population status. This project not only contributed valuable data to NMFS but also set the stage for her future endeavors in marine science. Transition to Belize and Mar Alliance After nearly a decade of working with NMFS, Ivy faced a crossroads in her career. Despite her extensive experience, she found herself in a position with limited opportunities for advancement. This prompted her to explore new avenues, leading her to a job opportunity with Mar Alliance in Belize, a nonprofit organization focused on marine conservation. The decision to move to Belize was not without its challenges, especially as she had just gotten married. However, the prospect of working in a dynamic environment where she could apply her skills to new and exciting problems was too enticing to pass up. In Belize, Ivy quickly adapted to the challenges of conducting research in a remote location, gaining invaluable experience in logistics and fieldwork. Pursuing a PhD While working with Mar Alliance, Ivy also pursued her Ph.D. at the University of Exeter. This unique opportunity allowed her to continue her work in marine science while advancing her education. The structure of the Ph.D. program in the UK, which did not require her to be on campus full-time, was particularly beneficial for her situation. She was able to balance her responsibilities as a researcher and a mother while completing her doctoral studies. Ivy's research during her Ph.D. focused on deep-sea fisheries, an area that had previously been underexplored in Belize. Her work not only contributed to the scientific community's understanding of these fisheries but also aligned with Mar Alliance's mission to promote sustainable fishing practices and marine conservation. Conclusion Dr. Ivy Barrymore's journey in marine science exemplifies the importance of adaptability and seizing opportunities. From her early fascination with the ocean to her impactful research in Belize, Ivy's career is a testament to the diverse paths one can take in the field of marine biology. Her story serves as an inspiration for aspiring marine scientists, highlighting that with determination and the right opportunities, one can make significant contributions to the understanding and conservation of our oceans. Pursuing a Ph.D. can be a strategic career move, particularly when it aligns with one's professional goals and offers flexibility in managing work and personal life. This is exemplified by Dr. Ivy Barrymore's experience as she undertook her part-time Ph.D. while working at Mar Alliance. Alignment with Professional Goals Ivy's decision to pursue a Ph.D. was not made lightly; it was a calculated step toward advancing her career. After spending over a decade working with the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), she reached a point where there were limited opportunities for advancement. Despite her extensive experience and a master's degree, Ivy found herself in a position where her title and pay did not reflect her qualifications. This realization prompted her to explore options that would allow her to grow professionally. When she joined Mar Alliance, she was encouraged by Rachel Graham to find a research focus that she was passionate about. This support was crucial as it allowed Ivy to align her Ph.D. research with her work at Mar Alliance, specifically in the area of deep-sea fisheries. By leveraging her existing knowledge and experience, she was able to create a research project that not only contributed to her academic goals but also benefited the organization. Flexibility in Work and Personal Life One of the significant advantages of Ivy's part-time Ph.D. was the flexibility it provided. As a working professional, she was able to continue her role at Mar Alliance while pursuing her degree. This arrangement allowed her to maintain a steady income and job security, which is particularly important for someone with a family. Ivy mentioned that she had a five-year-old son during her Ph.D. journey, and the ability to work full-time while studying part-time was essential for balancing her responsibilities as a mother and a professional. The structure of the Ph.D. program at the University of Exeter also contribute

09-09
01:09:55

The Global Recovery Plan for Oceanic White Tips: A Deep Dive with NOAA Scientists

On this bonus episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert delve into the recovery plan for the oceanic white tip shark with guests John Carlson and Chelsea Young from NOAA. They explore the importance of a global recovery plan for this species despite its US origins. The conversation highlights the evolution of shark science, public interest in sharks, and the crucial work being done to protect these fascinating creatures. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Recovery plans for endangered species, such as the oceanic white tip shark, are crucial for conservation efforts and often require a global approach. In a podcast episode, John Carlson and Chelsea Young from NOAA discussed the development of a recovery plan for the oceanic white tip shark, a species listed under the Endangered Species Act. The recovery plan serves as a blueprint for achieving the goal of removing the species from the endangered list by outlining specific actions and strategies to support the recovery of the population. One key aspect highlighted in the episode is the global nature of the recovery plan. The oceanic white tip shark is a species with a wide distribution, spanning multiple ocean basins and international waters. As a result, the recovery plan involves collaboration with various regional fishery management organizations (RFMOs) and international partners to address the conservation challenges faced by the species on a global scale. The development of the recovery plan also involves setting benchmarks, timelines, and criteria for assessing the progress of the recovery efforts. The plan includes a series of scenarios and criteria that need to be met in different management units to demonstrate recovery. This approach ensures that recovery efforts are comprehensive and address the specific needs of the species in different regions. Furthermore, the implementation of the recovery plan requires a coordinated effort involving scientists, policymakers, NGOs, and other stakeholders. The plan outlines on-the-ground activities and research projects aimed at supporting the recovery goals. Additionally, the plan emphasizes the importance of engaging with international partners and encouraging collaborative research and conservation initiatives to enhance the recovery of the oceanic white tip shark population. The episode underscores the significance of global cooperation and coordinated conservation efforts in the development and implementation of recovery plans for endangered species like the oceanic white tip shark. By taking a holistic and collaborative approach, conservationists can work towards ensuring the long-term survival and recovery of threatened species across different regions and jurisdictions. The implementation of recovery plans for endangered species, such as the oceanic white tip shark, involves a multi-faceted approach that combines scientific research, policy development, and international collaboration. In the episode, it was highlighted that the recovery plan for the oceanic white tip shark was a collaborative effort between scientists, policymakers, and various organizations both nationally and internationally. Scientific research plays a crucial role in the implementation of recovery plans. Researchers like John Carlson and Chelsea Young from NOAA Fisheries conducted biological and analytical research to support the stock assessment of sharks and endangered elasmobranchs. This research provided essential data on population dynamics, threats, and trends in abundance, which informed the development of the recovery plan. Policy development is another key component of implementing recovery plans. Chelsea Young, based in Honolulu, oversees the recovery planning and rulemaking for Threatened and Endangered Marine Species under the U.S. Endangered Species Act. The recovery plan serves as a guidance document outlining the actions needed to recover the species to a point where it no longer requires protection under the Endangered Species Act. International collaboration is essential for the successful implementation of recovery plans for globally distributed species like the oceanic white tip shark. The recovery plan involved workshops in Miami and Honolulu, bringing together scientists, fishermen, environmental organizations, and policymakers from different countries and regions. The plan also considered the management units delineated by regional fishery management organizations, emphasizing the need for coordinated efforts across borders. The implementation strategy outlined in the recovery plan includes on-the-ground activities, research projects, and conservation initiatives aimed at achieving the goals set for the recovery of the species. The plan serves as a blueprint for action, providing a framework for scientists, policymakers, and conservationists to work together towards the common goal of species recovery. Overall, the successful implementation of recovery plans for endangered species like the oceanic white tip shark requires a collaborative and interdisciplinary approach that integrates scientific research, policy development, and international cooperation. By working together across borders and disciplines, stakeholders can make significant progress towards the conservation and recovery of threatened species. Recovery plans for species like the oceanic white tip shark require a multi-faceted approach, including setting benchmarks, conducting research, and engaging with various stakeholders. The recovery plan for the oceanic white tip shark discussed in the podcast episode highlights the importance of a comprehensive approach to species recovery. The plan involves setting benchmarks to track progress towards recovery, such as population assessments, trends in abundance, and threat level reductions. These benchmarks provide a roadmap for measuring the success of conservation efforts and guiding future actions. Additionally, conducting research plays a crucial role in understanding the species and implementing effective conservation strategies. Research efforts, such as satellite and acoustic tagging, post-release survivorship studies, and stock assessments, provide valuable data to inform decision-making and prioritize conservation actions. For example, research conducted in Hawaii and the Western Central Pacific has been instrumental in assessing population declines and informing recovery strategies. Moreover, engaging with various stakeholders is essential for successful species recovery. The recovery plan involves collaboration with fishermen, environmental organizations, academic experts, researchers, and international management organizations. By involving diverse perspectives and expertise, the plan aims to leverage collective knowledge and resources to support the recovery of the oceanic white tip shark. Overall, the multi-faceted approach outlined in the recovery plan underscores the importance of combining scientific research, stakeholder engagement, and strategic goal-setting to effectively conserve and recover threatened species like the oceanic white tip shark.

08-19
48:26

Exploring Stingrays and Marine Conservation with Chantel Elston

On this episode of Beyond Jaws, join Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert as they chat with Chantel Elston, a postdoc student from SIAB, about her research on stingrays in South Africa. Discover Chantel's successful YouTube science communication channel with 25,000 subscribers, her passion for marine science, and insights into marine careers. Tune in for a deep dive into the world of flat sharks and Chantel's fascinating journey in marine research and science communication. Check out Chantel's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TellysMarineTales/featured Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Chantel Elston is a dedicated marine scientist and conservationist whose research focuses on threatened sharks and rays, particularly stingrays. Her passion for marine biology and elasmobranchs, such as stingrays, developed during her childhood, leading her to pursue a career in marine science with a focus on these lesser-studied vertebrates. During her postdoc in South Africa, Chantel utilized acoustic telemetry to track stingray movements and studied their dietary habits through stomach content and stable isotope analysis. This research aimed to fill knowledge gaps and contribute to the conservation of these species. Chantel's commitment to engaging the public in marine conservation efforts is evident through her involvement in citizen science projects like Elmo Africa, where individuals report shark and ray sightings and collect egg cases to contribute to marine research. Through her YouTube channel, Telly's Marine Tales, Chantel effectively communicates marine science topics to a broader audience. One of her notable videos addresses the debate between farm-raised and wild-caught salmon, highlighting the environmental and health implications of salmon farming. By addressing relevant and controversial issues in marine conservation, Chantel's diverse research background and dedication to studying threatened sharks and rays demonstrate her passion for marine conservation and raising awareness about these important marine species. Chantel Elston manages the citizen science project Elmo Africa in South Africa, which allows the public to report shark and ray sightings along the coastline. The project aims to create a database of citizen science data related to these species, encouraging individuals to report sightings and collect shark egg cases for research. Chantel has been involved with Elmo Africa since her master's days, working to grow and manage the project and collaborating with local NGOs to enhance public engagement in marine conservation efforts. Through her YouTube channel, Telly's Marine Tales, Chantel discusses various marine science topics, including the debate between farm-raised and wild-caught salmon. By conducting thorough research and presenting information in an engaging manner, Chantel educates her viewers on critical marine science issues, sparking discussions and raising awareness about important environmental and conservation topics.  

08-05
01:07:37

From Crocs to Anacondas to Sharks: Filming Wildlife in Extreme Environments

On this episode of Beyond Jaws, Johnny Harrington from Project 1Z Media shares his experiences as a cinematographer for shark programs. He discusses his journey into cinematography, working with Forrest Galante, and the evolution of shark documentaries. Join hosts Andrew Luan and Dr. David Ebert as they delve into the world of shark cinematography with Johnny Harrington. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Experience and Training: Johnny Harrington emphasizes the critical role of experience and training when working with dangerous wildlife, such as sharks, crocodiles, and anacondas. He attributes his comfort and awareness in the water to his background in spearfishing and free diving in the murky waters of New England. Harrington also acknowledges the invaluable insights he gained from experienced individuals like Mike Dornellis, who shared knowledge on handling large predators like sharks. He stresses the importance of being receptive to information and guidance from knowledgeable individuals to safely interact with wildlife. Dive Plans for Safety: Harrington underscores the importance of having a dive plan in place to ensure safety during dives, especially in challenging conditions like strong currents or low visibility. He recalls instances where dive plans were crucial in risky situations, such as dealing with saltwater crocodiles in Myanmar or navigating rough currents. By setting limits and recognizing thresholds of risk, Harrington emphasizes the need to prioritize safety above all else during underwater filming expeditions. Shark Cinematography and Wildlife Filming In the podcast episode, Johnny Harrington discusses his experiences as a cinematographer for shark programs, including his work on Shark Week shows and other wildlife documentaries. Harrington's journey into cinematography began with a passion for photography, which he developed while growing up in Newport, Rhode Island. His early experiences snorkeling, surfing, and fishing in the ocean sparked his interest in capturing the beauty of marine life through photography. As Harrington's career progressed, he transitioned from photography to videography, honing his skills in both mediums. His work with Forrest Galante, a prominent figure in the wildlife documentary world, provided him with valuable opportunities to film in challenging environments, such as underwater expeditions to capture saltwater crocodiles in Myanmar and alien shark species in Japan. One key aspect of Harrington's work is the emphasis on safety and risk management. Filming in extreme conditions, such as strong currents or with dangerous wildlife like crocodiles and anacondas, requires a high level of awareness and trust among the crew members. Harrington highlights the importance of having experienced safety divers and medics on set to ensure the well-being of the team. In addition to technical skills, Harrington emphasizes the need for effective communication and teamwork in the field. Maintaining a level head, following dive plans, and trusting the expertise of fellow crew members are essential for successful wildlife filming expeditions. Harrington's experiences on Shark Week and other projects demonstrate the dedication and courage required to capture captivating footage of marine life while prioritizing safety and professionalism. Trust and Communication: Maintaining trust and effective communication with crew members and dive buddies is crucial in risky underwater filming situations. Throughout the podcast episode, Johnny Harrington emphasizes the importance of trust and communication in his work as a cinematographer for shark programs. He highlights the significance of having a crew that you trust with your life, especially in challenging environments like underwater filming with dangerous wildlife. Trust in Safety Divers: Johnny highlights the role of safety divers in ensuring the crew's safety during dives. He mentions situations where safety divers disappeared or when he had to rely on their expertise in challenging conditions. Trusting the safety divers' knowledge and experience is essential for navigating risky underwater situations. Maintaining Awareness: While focusing on capturing footage, maintaining awareness of the surroundings is crucial. Johnny discusses the need to balance capturing the shot with staying vigilant about potential risks. This includes being aware of wildlife behavior, understanding dive plans, and recognizing the risk factor limits in each situation. Effective Communication: Effective communication is key to ensuring the safety and success of underwater filming projects. Johnny talks about the unspoken communication between dive buddies and crew members while underwater. Maintaining eye contact, understanding non-verbal cues, and having clear dive plans contribute to a smooth and safe filming experience. Experience and Risk Assessment: Experience plays a significant role in risk assessment during underwater filming. Johnny mentions the importance of recognizing thresholds in risk factors and knowing when to call off a dive, even in the presence of exciting animal behavior. Trusting the experience of the crew and safety divers in assessing risks contributes to making informed decisions during filming. Overall, trust and communication are foundational elements in the world of underwater cinematography, where teamwork, expertise, and awareness are essential for navigating challenging and potentially dangerous filming environments. Shark Week Filming Challenges Shark cinematographer Johnny Harrington shared some insights into the challenges and risks involved in filming for Shark Week programs. Here are some key points based on the episode transcript: Diving in Dangerous Conditions: Harrington discussed diving in challenging conditions, such as strong currents and rough weather. He mentioned a specific incident where he got separated from the group due to strong currents, highlighting the importance of maintaining awareness and communication in such situations. Dealing with Wildlife: Harrington also talked about the risks associated with filming various wildlife, including sharks, crocodiles, and anacondas. He emphasized the need for experience, trust in crew members, and understanding animal behavior to ensure safety while capturing footage. Safety Measures: The episode highlighted the importance of safety measures during filming, including having a medic on staff and following a dive plan. Harrington mentioned the presence of safety divers and the use of safety equipment like safety sausages to ensure the well-being of the crew in risky situations. Risk Assessment: Harrington discussed the need for risk assessment and setting limits during dives. He mentioned the importance of recognizing thresholds in risk factors and making decisions to prioritize safety, even if it means cutting short a dive to avoid potential dangers. Experience and Communication: The episode underscored the significance of experience, communication, and trust among crew members during underwater filming. Harrington emphasized the role of dive buddies in maintaining awareness, looking out for each other, and ensuring a safe filming environment. Overall, the challenges faced by shark cinematographers during Shark Week filming underscore the importance of preparation, experience, communication, and adherence to safety protocols to navigate the risks associated with filming in dynamic and unpredictable underwater environments. Risk Assessment and Limitations: Harrington emphasizes the significance of recognizing risk thresholds and establishing limitations during dives, even when encountering captivating animal behavior. He mentions the importance of experience in determining these thresholds and the need to maintain communication and awareness during risky situations. In the episode, Harrington recounts a challenging dive experience in South Africa where strong currents and rough weather conditions posed risks. Despite the allure of capturing incredible animal behavior, he highlights the necessity of acknowledging personal limits and the threshold of risk. This demonstrates the crucial balance between capturing compelling footage and ensuring safety in demanding underwater environments. Harrington's approach underscores the importance of prioritizing safety and making informed decisions based on the level of risk present during dives. By recognizing these thresholds and setting clear limitations, divers can mitigate potential dangers and maintain a secure environment for themselves and their crew.

07-22
01:08:51

Shark Research in the Midst of Conflict: The Story of Igbal Elhassan

On this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, we dive into the remarkable journey of Igbal Elhassan, who pursued a PhD in shark science amidst a civil war. Despite facing immense challenges, she persevered and earned her degree. Join hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert as they explore Iqbal's inspiring story and her contributions to the field of shark science. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Igbal Elhassan's journey to complete her PhD during a civil war exemplifies her remarkable determination and resilience. Despite the turmoil and challenges of living in a war-torn country, she persevered in her pursuit of higher education and shark science. She faced the daunting task of fleeing her home country due to the civil war, yet she continued her research and studies in different locations, showcasing her unwavering commitment to her passion for shark conservation. Throughout the episode, it becomes evident that Igbal's dedication to shark science goes beyond the ordinary challenges faced by most researchers. She not only had to navigate the complexities of conducting research in a region with limited resources and infrastructure but also had to deal with personal losses and the constant threat of danger due to the civil unrest in her country. Despite these adversities, she remained focused on her goals and continued to work towards completing her PhD and contributing to the field of shark science. Igbal's story serves as an inspiration to aspiring researchers and conservationists, highlighting the importance of resilience and perseverance in the face of adversity. Her ability to overcome obstacles and continue her work in shark conservation under such challenging circumstances is a testament to her strength and dedication. By sharing her experiences, Igbal not only sheds light on the realities of conducting research in conflict zones but also underscores the significance of conservation efforts in regions affected by war and instability. Igbal's work in shark science in Sudan and other regions highlights the importance of conservation efforts in areas with limited resources and ongoing conflicts. Throughout the episode, Igbal shared her incredible journey of pursuing a PhD in shark science while facing the challenges of civil war in her country. Despite the difficult circumstances, she continued her research and conservation efforts, demonstrating a strong commitment to protecting shark species in regions where resources are scarce and conflicts are prevalent. Igbal's dedication to studying sharks in Sudan, Yemen, Eritrea, and other areas around the Red Sea showcases the critical need for conservation initiatives in these regions. She conducted research on shark identification, breeding seasons, food habits, and geographical distribution, providing valuable insights into the shark populations in these areas. Her work not only contributes to the scientific understanding of shark species but also raises awareness about the importance of conservation in regions facing political instability and resource limitations. Furthermore, Igbal's efforts to engage with local communities, fishermen, and government authorities to raise awareness about shark conservation highlight the importance of community involvement in conservation efforts. By conducting training workshops, educating fishermen, and advocating for sustainable fishing practices, Iqbal is actively working towards the conservation of shark species in these challenging environments. Overall, Igbal's work exemplifies the resilience and determination required to conduct conservation efforts in regions affected by conflict and limited resources. Her story serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of protecting marine biodiversity in all corners of the world, especially in areas where conservation efforts are often overlooked due to ongoing conflicts and resource constraints. The Sacrifices and Dedication of Pursuing a Passion for Shark Research and Conservation The story of Igbal Elhassan, as shared in the podcast episode, serves as a poignant reminder of the immense sacrifices and unwavering dedication required to pursue a passion for shark research and conservation. Iqbal's journey is a testament to the resilience and determination of individuals who are committed to studying and protecting these magnificent creatures, even in the face of adversity. Civil War Challenges: Igbal pursued her PhD in shark science during a civil war in her country, Sudan. Despite the turmoil and dangers surrounding her, she continued her research, highlighting the extraordinary lengths she went to in order to follow her passion. Relocation and Loss: Igbal had to relocate multiple times due to the civil war and the separation of South Sudan. This resulted in personal losses and challenges, including the loss of relatives. Her ability to persevere through such hardships showcases the sacrifices made in the pursuit of shark research. Field Work Challenges: Igbal's fieldwork experiences, such as accompanying fishing boats and facing risks at sea, demonstrate the physical and emotional challenges involved in conducting research in remote and sometimes dangerous locations. Her determination to collect data and study sharks under difficult circumstances underscores the dedication required in this field. Gender Barriers: As a woman working in a male-dominated society and field, Igbal faced additional obstacles and cultural norms that made her work even more challenging. Her ability to navigate these barriers and continue her research showcases her resilience and commitment to her passion. Awareness and Conservation Efforts: Despite the challenges, Igbal engaged in awareness campaigns and worked towards shark conservation, even without external funding. Her efforts to educate fishermen and communities about the importance of shark conservation highlight her dedication to making a positive impact in the field. In conclusion, Igbal Elhassan's story exemplifies the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering dedication required to pursue a passion for shark research and conservation. Her resilience in the face of adversity serves as an inspiration to all aspiring shark scientists and conservationists, emphasizing the importance of perseverance and commitment in the pursuit of protecting these vital marine species.

07-15
58:10

From Skates to White Sharks: The Journey of Megan Winton

On this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, we dive into the career journey of Megan Winton from the Atlantic White Shark Organization. From studying different types of sharks to focusing on White Sharks for her PhD, Megan shares her experiences and recent accomplishment of becoming a doctor. Join us as we explore the evolution of shark science and the fascinating work of shark scientists like Megan. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of these incredible species and take your knowledge beyond jaws. Atlantic White Shark Website: https://www.atlanticwhiteshark.org Sharktivity: https://www.atlanticwhiteshark.org/sharktivity-app Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Megan Winton's journey in shark science exemplifies the diverse paths individuals can take to become shark scientists. From her childhood fears of sharks in Florida to pursuing her dream career, Megan's story highlights the unique and varied backgrounds that can lead to a successful career in shark science. Growing up in Florida, Megan was initially afraid of sharks due to the proximity of shark-infested waters in New Smyrna Beach, known as the "shark bite capital of the world." However, a pivotal moment at the beach witnessing a shark catch sparked her curiosity and led her to delve deeper into the world of sharks. Despite her initial fears, Megan's interest in sharks grew as she read books, watched documentaries, and dreamed of becoming a shark scientist. Her passion for these misunderstood creatures drove her to pursue a career in marine science, ultimately leading her to study sharks. Megan's educational journey took her from Emory University in Atlanta to Moss Landing Marine Laboratories in California, where she worked on skates and deep-sea sharks. She then transitioned to studying white sharks in New England, working with renowned scientists like Greg Skomal and Lisa Natanson. Megan's transition from studying skates and deep-sea sharks to focusing on white sharks showcases the flexibility and adaptability required in shark science. Her willingness to explore different species and research areas demonstrates the diverse paths one can take within the field of shark science. Megan's involvement in studying white sharks off Cape Cod and her collaboration with researchers across different regions highlight the interconnected nature of shark science. By working with scientists from various areas and sharing knowledge and experiences, Megan contributes to the collective understanding of shark populations and behaviors. Overall, Megan Winton's journey in shark science serves as an inspiring example of how individuals with diverse backgrounds and experiences can find their way into the field of shark research. Her story emphasizes the importance of passion, dedication, and a willingness to explore different avenues in pursuing a career in shark science. The increase in white shark populations along the East Coast, including Cape Cod and Central California, can be attributed to a combination of conservation efforts and the recovery of seal populations. The conversation between Megan and Dave highlighted how the gray seal population's recovery played a significant role in attracting white sharks back to the area. In the 1980s and 90s, the absence of seals on Cape Cod beaches meant that white sharks were not a common sight. However, with the recovery of the gray seal population, seals became a prevalent food source for white sharks, leading to their return to the area. Conservation measures put in place in the 90s have also contributed to the increase in white shark populations. These measures, aimed at protecting marine mammals like seals, have indirectly supported the recovery of white sharks. The protection of seals and other marine mammals has provided a stable food source for white sharks, encouraging their presence in these coastal areas. The collaborative efforts of researchers and scientists, such as those working in Cape Cod and Central California, have been crucial in monitoring and studying the white shark populations. Through tagging programs, aerial surveys, and public awareness initiatives like the Shark Smart booths, researchers have been able to gather valuable data on white shark movements and behaviors. This data has not only enhanced our understanding of white shark populations but has also helped in informing conservation strategies and public safety measures. The recovery and increase in white shark populations along the East Coast serve as a testament to the interconnectedness of marine ecosystems. The resurgence of seals and the presence of healthy white shark populations indicate a balanced and thriving marine environment. By studying and monitoring these apex predators, researchers can continue to unravel the complexities of marine ecosystems and work towards sustainable conservation practices. Collaboration and communication among shark scientists play a crucial role in studying and understanding shark populations. In the podcast episode, Megan Winton discusses the importance of sharing information on white shark sightings and utilizing new technologies like drones and spotter pilots. Megan mentions how shark scientists collaborate and communicate with each other to share information about white shark sightings. This exchange of data allows researchers to track the movements and behaviors of white sharks in different regions. By sharing sightings and observations, scientists can gain a more comprehensive understanding of white shark populations and their movements. The use of new technologies like drones and spotter pilots has revolutionized the way shark scientists study these animals. Drones provide an aerial view of the ocean, allowing researchers to spot sharks from above and gather valuable data on their behavior and movements. Spotter pilots, like the one mentioned in the episode, fly over the ocean to locate sharks and report their findings to researchers on the ground. This collaboration and utilization of new technologies enhance the efficiency and accuracy of shark population studies. By working together and leveraging advanced tools, shark scientists can gather more data, analyze trends, and make informed decisions about conservation and management strategies for shark populations. The shared knowledge and resources within the shark science community contribute to a more comprehensive understanding of these fascinating marine creatures.

07-08
01:10:49

Confessions of a Shark Cardiologist: Writing the Book - Sharkpedia

On this bonus episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, Dr. Daniel C. Abel discusses his book "Sharkpedia," a must-have for shark enthusiasts of all kinds. The episode delves into the evolution of shark science, public interest in sharks fueled by movies like Jaws, and the diverse fields within shark research. Join hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert as they explore the world of sharks and take your knowledge Beyond Jaws. Get the book: Prince University Press: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691252612/sharkpedia Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sharkpedia-Brief-Compendium-Shark-Pedia/dp/0691252610/ref=sr_1_1?crid=373H5Y7THYAZB&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.082floLBDowycF-ZWlPqfXiHtXzK2Q-xS24eCjw0gF7M5oJIRFIK5ASx31umutVaF78IkskVy6o4GaRWnIvhsEgywdK9XkYppT6f3SwtdZoqUhNONUG7sHBqzzCLzlBw.bQZ-y9KSj3mpvjCdtVn-YY95nj43pK3EsPt0WIvwgdU&dib_tag=se&keywords=Sharkpedia&qid=1719882184&s=books&sprefix=sharkpedia%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C162&sr=1-1 Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Dr. Daniel C. Abel shared valuable insights into his book "Sharkpedia" during a podcast episode. He mentioned that the inspiration for writing the book came from an invitation from Princeton University Press to create a comprehensive resource defining sharks in various aspects such as history, evolution, physiology, ecology, and diversity. The book aimed to cater to a wide audience, from shark enthusiasts to students and educators, providing accessible information about sharks. Dr. Abel highlighted the collaborative process of working with illustrator Mark Dando, emphasizing the importance of having a skilled illustrator to complement the text. He mentioned that the illustrations by Marc Dando played a significant role in shaping the framework of the book and making it visually engaging for readers. The book's format, with concise and informative entries on different shark-related topics, was designed to be easily digestible for a broad audience, including young readers and those new to shark science. Furthermore, Dr. Abel discussed the challenges and rewards of writing books, mentioning the labor of love involved in the process. He shared his experiences with previous books and the importance of having a publisher like Princeton University Press to work with. Additionally, he expressed his future plans for writing fiction, including a shark-related murder mystery, showcasing his versatility as an author. Overall, Dr. Abel's discussion provided valuable insights into the inspiration, collaborative process, and audience considerations involved in writing "Sharkpedia." The book serves as a valuable resource for those interested in sharks, offering a blend of scientific information and engaging illustrations to educate and inspire readers about these fascinating creatures. The podcast episode featuring Dr. Daniel C. Abel discussing his book, "Sharkpedia," highlighted the crucial role that books play in providing accurate information about sharks and dispelling myths, especially in the age of social media and misinformation. "Sharkpedia" was described as a comprehensive resource that covers various aspects of shark biology, ecology, and behavior in an accessible and easy-to-digest format. The book serves as a valuable tool for shark enthusiasts, educators, and students to learn more about these fascinating creatures. In the discussion, it was emphasized that books like "Sharkpedia" offer a reliable source of information that can counteract the spread of misinformation often found on social media platforms. With the proliferation of sensationalized content and myths surrounding sharks, having a well-researched and expertly written book becomes essential in educating the public and correcting misconceptions. The conversation also touched upon the challenges faced by educators and scientists in reaching a wider audience, especially younger generations who may prefer consuming information through social media and video content. Despite the changing landscape of information consumption, the enduring value of books was underscored, particularly in providing in-depth knowledge and a more nuanced understanding of complex topics like shark biology. Furthermore, the episode highlighted the need for books like "Sharkpedia" to serve as a bridge between scientific research and public understanding. By presenting accurate and engaging information in a format that is accessible to a broader audience, these books can help foster a deeper appreciation for sharks and promote conservation efforts. The hosts of the Beyond Jaws podcast, Andrew and Dave, took a moment during the episode to reminisce about past experiences and connections in the field of shark science. They highlighted the long-lasting relationships and memories formed over the years, emphasizing the significance of these connections in their careers. Dave mentioned a particular event at a bar in Catalina Island back in February 1983, where they first met. This event brought back memories of interactions with prominent figures in the shark science field, such as Perry Gilbert, Don Nelson, and Leonard Compagno. The hosts reflected on how these relationships have endured over time, despite not having seen each other for many years. They discussed the impact of these connections on their careers and the field of shark science as a whole. The shared experiences and shared passion for sharks have created a strong bond among individuals in the field, leading to a sense of camaraderie and mutual respect. The conversation highlighted the importance of these relationships in shaping their careers and the field of shark science. It showcased how shared experiences and interactions with fellow scientists have contributed to their growth and development as professionals. The hosts' reminiscing about past experiences served as a reminder of the rich history and community within the shark science field, emphasizing the value of long-lasting connections and memories formed over the years.  

07-02
43:06

Behind the Scenes: A Filmmaker's Journey in Wildlife Documentaries

On this episode of Beyond Jaws, filmmaker Jesse Colaizzi shares his journey from producer to wildlife filmmaker focusing on sharks. Discover the evolution of shark science, fueled by public interest and movies like Jaws. Join hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert as they dive into the world of shark filmmaking with insights from experts in the field. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Jesse Khaleesi's Filmmaking Process Jesse Colaizzi's unique approach to filmmaking involves starting by creating a soundtrack based on the mood and tone of the project. This initial step serves as a guiding force throughout his editing process, shaping the narrative and enhancing the overall impact of the final product. In a podcast episode, Jesse explains that he meticulously builds a soundtrack for each project by curating a playlist of real music that aligns with the desired vibe of the show. He spends days or even weeks on this process, selecting tracks that evoke specific emotions and set the tone for the storytelling. By immersing himself in the music, Jesse establishes a creative anchor that influences his perspective on the project. Furthermore, Jesse's use of music extends beyond setting the mood. He leverages the soundtrack as a storytelling tool, allowing the music to enhance key scenes, evoke certain emotions, and create a cohesive narrative flow. Whether it's a scene featuring majestic animals, a night dive off the coast, or an exploration of a lagoon, Jesse's curated soundtrack plays a pivotal role in shaping the viewer's experience. By integrating music into his editing process, Jesse not only enhances the visual elements of the project but also adds depth and dimension to the storytelling. His attention to detail and thoughtful selection of music demonstrate his commitment to creating a compelling and immersive viewing experience for the audience. Through his innovative approach to filmmaking, Jesse Khaleesi showcases the power of music as a storytelling tool in the world of wildlife documentaries. Music plays a crucial role in Jesse's editing process, serving as a powerful tool to enhance scenes and elevate the storytelling in the documentaries he works on. Jesse's background in music appreciation and his keen understanding of how music can influence emotions and mood are evident in his approach to editing. He meticulously curates soundtracks for each project, often starting with a playlist of real music to set the tone and mood for the documentary. By creating a soundtrack in advance, Jesse immerses himself in the desired atmosphere of the film even before the footage is edited. This allows him to envision how different tracks will complement specific scenes and evoke certain emotions in the audience. Whether it's a majestic animal encounter, a serene underwater moment, or a thrilling chase sequence, Jesse carefully selects music that enhances the visual storytelling and engages the viewers on a deeper level. Jesse's process of using music as a creative anchor not only guides his editing decisions but also influences the overall narrative arc of the documentaries he works on. The choice of music can set the pace, build tension, convey emotions, and create a cohesive flow throughout the film. By incorporating a variety of music genres and styles, Jesse ensures that each project has a unique and dynamic soundtrack that resonates with the audience. Furthermore, Jesse's ability to connect music with the visuals on screen demonstrates his skill in translating the essence of a scene into a musical language. Whether it's a lighthearted moment, a poignant revelation, or an action-packed sequence, the right music can enhance the impact of the visuals and create a memorable viewing experience for the audience. Jesse's award-winning editing reflects his mastery in using music as a storytelling tool, showcasing his talent in crafting compelling narratives through the harmonious blend of visuals and sound. Jesse's Background in Journalism and Storytelling in Filmmaking Jesse Colaizzi's background in journalism has significantly influenced his approach to storytelling in filmmaking, particularly when it comes to wildlife documentaries. His education in journalism has instilled in him the importance of giving a voice to those who do not have one, which he has translated into his work with animals in his films. Throughout the podcast episode, Jesse mentions how his journalism education taught him to answer the question of "who cares" in every story. This approach has led him to focus on capturing the perspectives of animals in his documentaries, allowing viewers to see the world through their eyes. By giving animals a voice and showcasing their experiences, Jesse's films aim to create a connection between the audience and the wildlife being featured. Jesse's storytelling process often begins with creating a soundtrack for the film, which sets the tone and mood for the entire project. He meticulously selects music that aligns with the narrative and the emotions he wants to evoke in the audience. This attention to detail in choosing the right music reflects his journalistic background, where the goal is to convey a story effectively and engage the audience on an emotional level. Moreover, Jesse's experience in journalism has taught him the importance of taking an alternative perspective on stories. This approach allows him to delve deeper into the lives of animals, understanding their behaviors, challenges, and environments from their point of view. By incorporating this perspective into his filmmaking, Jesse brings a unique and empathetic portrayal of wildlife to his audience. Overall, Jesse Colaizzi's background in journalism has shaped his storytelling approach in filmmaking, emphasizing the significance of giving animals a voice and capturing their perspectives authentically. Through his work, he strives to create compelling narratives that not only entertain but also educate and raise awareness about the importance of conservation and understanding the natural world.

06-25
01:10:56

The Multi-Faceted Role of a Global Communications Manager

On this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert are joined by Jade Schultz, the global communications manager for Save Our Seas. They dive into the world of science communication, focusing on engaging audiences with sharks and ocean species. From the historical perception of sharks to the diverse fields within shark science, listeners will gain insight into the fascinating work of shark scientists. Tune in to explore the efforts to demystify these incredible creatures and expand your knowledge Beyond Jaws. Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Social media has significantly impacted the field of science communication, as discussed in the podcast episode featuring Jade Schultz, the global communications manager for Save Our Seas. She emphasized how social media has revolutionized the way organizations interact with their audience, democratizing science communication and enabling individuals to establish themselves by consistently sharing content. Jade highlighted the vital role of social media in education and awareness, particularly in marine conservation. She noted that social media has provided a platform for researchers and organizations to share their work and stories with a broader audience, allowing for diverse voices to be heard and information to be disseminated in a more accessible and engaging manner. Moreover, Jade delved into the challenges and opportunities of managing social media for a conservation organization like Save Our Seas. She stressed the importance of fact-checking, relevance, and engaging content to effectively convey the organization's message. Social media management involves not only posting photos and captions but also planning events, engaging with sponsors, sending out press releases, and coordinating various initiatives within the organization. The podcast episode illustrated how social media has transformed science communication, expanding outreach, engagement, and impact in marine conservation. The evolution of social media has empowered organizations like Save Our Seas to reach a wider audience, educate the public, and inspire action towards ocean conservation. The role of a communications manager in marine conservation organizations is multifaceted, extending beyond social media management. As discussed in the podcast, Jade Schultz highlighted the diverse tasks involved in her position, such as event planning, sponsorships, and press releases. Additionally, the communications manager plays a crucial role in maintaining consistency in messaging and upholding high standards for the organization. Save Our Seas has set a high standard, and the communications manager ensures this standard is maintained across all communication channels. Engaging with the audience through storytelling and sharing success stories is essential for inspiring behavior change and raising awareness about conservation issues. Jade Schultz emphasized the power of storytelling in science communication, bridging the gap between researchers and the public. By sharing engaging content like the Super Sharks campaign, Save Our Seas aims to make conservation messaging more accessible and inspiring. Furthermore, Jade discussed the challenges researchers face in communicating their work and highlighted the opportunities presented by social media and digital platforms. By utilizing various communication channels, organizations can effectively convey conservation messages and reach a wider audience. Overall, the episode underscored the importance of engaging with the audience through storytelling and sharing success stories to drive behavior change and raise awareness about conservation issues. By creating compelling narratives and involving the audience in the conservation journey, organizations can inspire action and foster a deeper connection with marine conservation efforts.

06-10
01:09:38

Exploring the Unknown: Shark Research in Angola with Ana Lucia Furtado Soares

Today's episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast delves into the Angola Project, a groundbreaking research initiative in Africa led by Ana Lucia Furtado Soares. Discover how this project started, Lucia's connections to Angola, and the research findings since 2016. Join hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert as they explore the fascinating world of shark science with a rising star in the field. Tune in to gain valuable insights Beyond Jaws. Website: https://www.sharkproject.org/en/protection/angola-elasmo-project/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Building trust and relationships with local communities is crucial for successful research in new areas. Ana Lucia Furtado Soares, a researcher working in Angola, emphasized the importance of gaining the trust of the local communities she works with. She highlighted the significance of understanding the culture, respecting the elders, and being patient with the local customs and way of working, especially when conducting research on sharks and rays, which are vital to the livelihoods of the fishers in the area. Ana Lucia shared her experiences of working with the fishers in Angola, where she had to establish trust and rapport with them to collect data and conduct her research. Despite facing challenges such as uncertainty, lack of resources like electricity and water, and the need to adapt to the local conditions, she stressed the importance of being patient, understanding the local dynamics, and building relationships based on mutual respect and trust. Her experiences in Angola underscore the importance of building strong relationships with local communities when conducting research in new areas. By gaining the trust of the community members, researchers can access valuable information, collaborate effectively, and ensure the success of their research projects. This trust is not only essential for conducting research but also for promoting conservation efforts and sustainable practices in the area. In the episode, Ana Lucia Furtado Soares shares her experiences conducting research in Angola, a remote location with limited resources and infrastructure. One of the key challenges she highlights is the uncertainty that comes with working in such areas. From unreliable electricity to lack of access to basic facilities like generators, researchers like Lucia must learn to adapt to these challenges. Lucia emphasizes the importance of patience and adaptability when working in remote locations. She mentions the need to dance to the local rhythm and be prepared for unexpected situations, such as waiting for hours for people to show up for a presentation or dealing with the absence of basic amenities like electricity. Moreover, Lucia's experiences in Angola demonstrate the necessity of being open to different cultural practices and communication barriers. While Portuguese is the primary language in Angola, there are variations in dialects and language proficiency among the local population. Researchers must be willing to navigate these linguistic differences and find ways to effectively communicate with the community members. Overall, the episode highlights the significance of embracing uncertainty and being adaptable when conducting research in remote locations. Researchers like Lucia demonstrate that success in such environments requires a willingness to face challenges head-on, be patient, and adjust to the unique circumstances of each location. Appreciating and being grateful for the resources and facilities available in more developed countries is crucial when working in areas with limited resources. In the podcast episode, Ana Lucia Furtado Soares shared her experiences working in Angola, a country with challenges such as unreliable electricity and water supply. She highlighted the importance of adapting to the local conditions and being patient with the uncertainties that come with working in such environments. Ana Lucia emphasized the need to appreciate the basic amenities that are often taken for granted in more developed countries. She mentioned instances where she had to work without electricity or faced challenges with communication due to lack of power. Despite these obstacles, she maintained a positive attitude and recognized the privilege of having access to resources that are not readily available in Angola. The podcast also touched upon the cultural diversity in Angola, where different tribal languages are spoken in various villages. Ana Lucia mentioned that speaking Portuguese, the primary language in Angola, was essential for communication, especially with the older generation of fishers. This highlights the importance of language skills and cultural understanding when working in diverse communities with limited resources. Overall, Ana Lucia's experiences in Angola underscore the significance of gratitude and appreciation for the resources and facilities available in more developed countries. It serves as a reminder to researchers and professionals working in challenging environments to approach their work with humility, adaptability, and a deep appreciation for the basic necessities that may not be readily accessible in the areas they are working in.

05-27
01:12:44

Protecting Sharks and Empowering Communities: The Story of Fundacion Mundo Azul

Tune in to the Beyond Jaws podcast to hear Elisa Areano, Executive Director of Fundacion Mundo Azul, share her inspiring journey from real estate developer to shark conservationist. Discover how her foundation protects sharks and collaborates with fishing communities to reduce shark fishing impacts. Join host Andrew Lewin and co-host Dr. David Ebert as they delve into Elisa's innovative approach to shark conservation on this engaging episode. Website: https://fundacionmundoazul.com/home-english/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG Elisa Areno's organization, Fundacion Mundo Azul, is dedicated to protecting sharks and rays in Guatemala and Central America through a multifaceted approach. The foundation collaborates closely with fishing communities to address their challenges while promoting conservation efforts. One key initiative of Fundacion Mundo Azul is providing scholarships to fishers' families, offering educational opportunities for children and young adults in these communities. By supporting education, the foundation aims to create alternative livelihoods for community members, reducing the reliance on shark fishing as a primary income source. Fundacion Mundo Azul also works with the government to advocate for conservation laws and regulations that safeguard sharks and rays. Elisa and her team focus on developing non-detrimental findings (NDFs) and legal acquisition findings to ensure that the exported organisms are from Guatemala and comply with international agreements like CITES. By engaging with the government, the foundation plays a crucial role in shaping policies that promote sustainable fishing practices and marine conservation. Moreover, Fundacion Mundo Azul conducts scientific studies to track sharks and identify critical habitats, such as nursery areas for hammerhead sharks. By collecting data and monitoring shark populations, the organization contributes valuable information to conservation efforts and aids in the management of marine species. Through these initiatives, Fundacion Mundo Azul strives to protect the marine biodiversity of Guatemala and Central America while fostering collaboration among stakeholders for sustainable ocean management. The organization collaborates closely with shark fishers in Guatemala to gather valuable data on shark landings. They train fishers in shark identification techniques, such as measuring sharks, taking pictures, and identifying different species. This collaboration not only helps in collecting important scientific data but also empowers fishers by involving them in conservation efforts. In addition to data collection and training, Fundacion Mundo Azul provides alternative livelihood opportunities for shark fishers, such as producing honey from mangrove trees. This project offers a sustainable income source for fishers and promotes conservation by utilizing the resources of the mangrove ecosystem in a beneficial way. Elisa Areno's team includes scientists like Omar Santana and Juan Carlos Perez, who play crucial roles in engaging and educating fishing communities, conducting scientific studies on sharks, and advocating for conservation policies. Omar Santana, with extensive experience working with great whites, brought his expertise to Guatemala to assist Elisa in her shark conservation efforts. Despite the limited biology careers in Guatemala, Elisa wisely sought experts like Omar Santana abroad, who possess the necessary knowledge and experience to contribute to the conservation projects. Additionally, Juan Carlos Perez is another scientist working with Elisa to cultivate a new generation of shark scientists. Together, they focus on educating and training young individuals to become knowledgeable and respectful researchers in the field of shark conservation. This new team of young scientists is crucial in engaging with fishing communities, respecting their knowledge and expertise, and working collaboratively to protect sharks and advocate for conservation policies. In conclusion, Elisa's team of scientists, including Omar Santana and Juan Carlos Perez, play a vital role in conducting scientific studies, engaging with fishing communities, and advocating for conservation policies to protect sharks and their habitats in Guatemala. Their combined expertise and dedication significantly contribute to the success of the conservation efforts led by Fundacion Mundo Azul.

05-13
01:07:29

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