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For those who have money… or want more of it!
Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench (from BiggerPockets.com) weekly for the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. Each week, financial experts Mindy and Scott interview unique and powerful thought leaders about how to earn more, keep more, spend smarter, and grow wealth.
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Why do many wealthy people wait so long to retire? Despite earning a physician’s salary, living frugally, and saving what most would call “more than enough” money, today’s guest worked for another four years before pulling the trigger on early retirement. Is he on to something? Does the four-percent rule no longer work in 2024? Stay tuned to find out!
Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Leif Dahleen, MD, the “Physician on FIRE,” was already financially independent when he discovered the FIRE movement. But rather than calling time on a successful healthcare career, he continued to beef up his nest egg. Why? Leif had determined that he needed forty-to-fifty times his annual expenses to feel comfortable walking away from his nine-to-five. Do more FI-focused folks need to follow Leif’s formula to account for the unknown?
We’ve all dreamed of what a day in the life of an early retiree might look like. Leif had his own expectations, but in this episode, he shares what he discovered when his schedule was suddenly clear. You’ll also learn about the mindset high-income earners need to avoid squandering wealth, and why putting down roots in a low-cost-of-living area could be the difference between fast-tracking retirement and keeping up with the Joneses!
In This Episode We Cover
Why most people DON’T retire on the four-percent rule (even though it works!)
Fast-tracking the path to early retirement in a low-cost-of-living area
How to actually leave your W2 job once you have enough money to retire
Why earning a high income doesn’t guarantee FIRE (and common pitfalls to avoid!)
Choosing the right retirement withdrawal strategy for your financial situation
Why Leif won’t adjust his retirement lifestyle as he continues to build wealth
And So Much More!
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How Much Money Do I Need to Retire?
(00:00) Intro
(01:58) Leif’s “Unfair” Advantage
(06:33) Leaving the Medical Profession
(12:42) Funding His Retirement
(15:09) Does the 4% Rule Work?
(23:37) Adjusting Your Retirement Lifestyle
(29:23) Retirement Expectations vs. Reality
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What does it mean to “win” financially in your income bracket? To us, the end goal is always FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early), and if you’re chasing financial freedom, this is the show for you. We’re breaking down the money moves you need to make based on your income bracket, going from $45,000 to $100,000 per year, and how to stretch your dollar the furthest so you can invest, save, and reach FIRE faster.
If you’re at the lower end of the income scale, we’ll give you time-tested methods to boost your income and use your time wisely so you can start stockpiling cash TODAY. If you have a high income, there’s still work to be done as you need to find the best way to keep the most of your income so you can use it to acquire wealth-building assets.
Regardless of how much money you make, you CAN achieve FIRE if you know the proper steps. The good news? We’re sharing those steps today, so stick around!
In This Episode We Cover
How to speed up your path to financial independence based on your income bracket
Why we disagree about retirement account investing when you’re just starting your career
Ways to make more money and side hustles that can boost your income
The headache-free vs. hands-on approach to investing for FIRE (and who should take which path)
Lifestyle creep and avoiding overspending (EVEN if you have a higher income)
How much money we reasonably think you’ll need to achieve FIRE
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money 32 - Financial Freedom Through Small Life Changes and a Modest Real Estate Portfolio w/Planting our Pennies
BiggerPockets Money 35 - Hacking Your Life to Live for (Almost) Free with Craig Curelop
BiggerPockets Money 97 - Intentionally Choosing the Path to Financial Independence with Financial Mechanic
BiggerPockets Money 110 - Systematically Increasing Income and Intentionally Decreasing Spending with A Purple Life
BiggerPockets Money 169 - Breaking the Taboo of Talking About Money with Friends, Family, and Bosses w/Erin Lowry
BiggerPockets Money 328 - The Best Alternative Investment No One Knows About w/Alex Breshears and Beth Johnson
The One Thing
How to Win Friends and Influence People
The E-Myth Revisited
The Go-Giver
The Challenger Sale
Learn Private Money Lending with “Lend to Live”
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FIRE in 2024: What We’d Do Differently If We Started Over Today
(00:00) Intro
(01:08) $45,000/Year Income
(12:37) $75,000/Year Income
(23:11) $100,000/Year Income
(28:48) How Much for FIRE?
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Young, old, or in between, you need to hear this episode! Today’s guest paid off over $80,000 of debt, grew her net worth to $100,000 and did it all just years after graduating from college without a sky-high income. How did she make such quick progress, and what’s her secret to skyrocketing her net worth early in her career? She’s sharing it all in this episode, and you (no matter your age) can follow her repeatable path, too!
Want to see your net worth leap so you can fast-track your road to FIRE? Anna Foley is the person you should listen to. Through common-sense smart spending, diligent investing, and salary-increasing career pivots, Anna and her partner went from $80,000 debt to debt-free and finally hit six-figure net worth status. The best part? They did all of it WITHOUT giving up what makes life enjoyable, and they still sport a phenomenal savings rate!
Anna is sharing how she saves a significant portion of her income every month, why she decided to rent (not buy) a house, how “paying yourself first” can get you debt-free before you know it, and why she does NOT follow the traditional advice of chasing a “FIRE number.” In your twenties? Copy Anna’s plan! Closer to retirement? Follow Anna’s smart saving and investing tactics, and you can get there faster!
In This Episode We Cover
How to become debt-free and achieve a six-figure net worth before you’re thirty!
Why Anna decided to rent a house, not buy one, to maximize her savings
What Anna invests 100% of her income in (it’s not real estate!)
The “middle-class trap” to avoid when maxing out your retirement accounts
Why you DON’T need a FIRE number, and why Anna’s more achievable goals work better
Boosting your income and why job-hopping can explode your income-generating potential
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money 97 - Intentionally Choosing the Path to Financial Independence with Financial Mechanic
BiggerPockets Money 110 - Systematically Increasing Income and Intentionally Decreasing Spending with A Purple Life
BiggerPockets Money 558 - How to Start Investing for Retirement: 401(k), IRA, Roth?
BiggerPockets Money 560 - Dude ACTUALLY Withdraws From His 401(k) and Retires at 47
Email Your Savings Rate to mindy@biggerpockets.com!
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Finance Friday: How the “Middle-Class Trap” Stops Your Early Retirement
Connect with Anna
(00:00) Intro
(01:10) Investing Right After College
(03:00) Rent, Don’t Buy!
(08:58) Paying Off $80K in Debt
(12:42) Investing for Financial Independence
(16:16) Saving a TON!
(21:11) Better Than a “FI Number”
(25:27) Boosting Your Income
(27:19) Do This FIRST!
(29:11) Connect with Anna!
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Does FIRE seem impossible while raising a family? We’re about to prove that you CAN have it all. Emily and Joel are financially independent while raising five kids and still have the money to travel the world, take plenty of vacations, and sleep in without worrying about a job. They reached FI in just over a decade and did it without EVER having a high income. How’d they do it? One “financial superpower” allowed them to do what most people won’t.
Emily and Joel started with $150,000 in student loan debt. Their accounts dwindled at the end of every month, so they began to pay off their loans with the “debt snowball” method. Fast forward a few years, and they were debt-free, but now they had a new challenge: building their net worth!
Today, they’re sharing the incredible journey they took to go from personal finance zeros to heroes, the “why” behind achieving FI at such young ages, and how they did it all (including keeping expenses SUPER low) while raising not one, not two, but FIVE children. Think FI isn’t possible for you? Think again—copy Emily and Joel’s plan!
In This Episode We Cover
How to pay off debt FAST with the “debt snowball” method
Minimizing your expenses and how spending less gets you to FIRE way faster
Why you DON’T need to cut out travel/vacations on your path to financial freedom
The “financial superpower” you must cultivate if you want to retire early
What 100% of Emily and Joel’s portfolio is in and the simple path to building wealth
Starting side hustles that pay for your life and why working while FI is NOT a bad thing
And So Much More!
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50+ Rentals After Starting in Her 50s and How “Late Starters” Can Get Ahead
From 150k in Debt to FIRE in Their Mid-30s (With 5 Kids!)
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The Simple Path to Wealth—Index Funds Explained with JL Collins
(00:00) Intro
(01:07) Six-Figure Debt and Dave Ramsey
(05:58) "Snowballing” $150K in Debt
(08:27) $1,000,000 FI Number
(14:06) Financial Superpowers
(15:27) The “Why” Behind FI
(18:37) Serious Side Hustles
(29:29) Did They Retire?
(34:11) Connect with Emily and Joel
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When should you refinance your mortgage? Is now the time since interest rates have finally fallen? Or will refinancing down to today’s rates not be worth it when, six months from now, interest rates could be substantially lower? We brought on an expert mortgage loan officer to walk through the cost-benefit analysis of refinancing in 2024 and when a refinance is NOT worth the money.
Greg Roller has closed over a billion dollars in loans, but surprisingly, he’s very cautious with homeowners about WHEN to refinance. Mortgage rates have already dropped significantly but could be trending down even more in 2024 and 2025. Is now the time to refinance? Greg discusses how much a refinance costs in 2024, how to know it’s worth it to refinance, what you’ll need to qualify, the differences between cash-out refinances and rate-and-term refinances, and why falling for a “low rate” could cost you in the long run.
Plus, Greg shares some tips to help your refinance go as smoothly and quickly as possible, as well as how you can refinance for FREE with a rate option most people have zero clue about.
In This Episode We Cover
Refinancing explained and how much the average refinance costs in 2024
When to refinance and the rule of thumb that highlights whether or not it’s worth it
The low-rate trap that inexperienced borrowers get caught in (you’ll get hit with hidden costs!)
Refinancing multiple properties and how to do this the RIGHT way
The easy method to see where mortgage rates are headed and whether they’ll rise or fall
How to refinance for free by asking your loan officer for a “rate stack”
And So Much More!
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With Mortgage Rates Falling, When Should Investors Refinance?
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(00:00) Intro
(01:57) What is Refinancing?
(03:24) When to Refinance
(04:31) Lower Rates = Time to Refinance?
(11:42) How Much Do Refinances Cost?
(15:13) Refinancing Multiple Properties
(17:13) When NOT to Refi
(21:21) Tips for Homeowners
(25:11) The Low-Rate Trap
(26:47) Do This NOW!
(29:27) Work with Greg
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Passive investing is most people’s goal, especially if they’re trying to achieve FIRE. They don’t want to be weighed down by managing a dozen rental properties, an active business, or a complicated stock portfolio that requires constant check-ins. Instead, many of us want that “mailbox money,” with checks coming in without us having to do the work ourselves so we can focus on doing what we love. Sounds enticing, right? Then “syndication” real estate investing might be perfect for you.
We’re thrilled to have the newest member of the BiggerPockets podcast network, Jim Pfeifer, host of PassivePockets, on today to talk about this one investment type that changed his life. Jim has invested in over 100 syndications and has been able to reap the significant rewards of passive income, massive tax benefits, and diversification through real estate syndications.
Today, he gives a beginner-friendly breakdown, touching on what a syndication is, why it’s an excellent investment for FIRE, how to vet a syndication BEFORE you invest, questions to ask a syndicator, and the unbeatable tax benefits you can get from sitting back and collecting passive income checks! Ready to make real estate returns without all the work? This one’s for you!
In This Episode We Cover
Welcoming PassivePockets, the newest BiggerPockets podcast network show!
Real estate syndications explained and why they’re such an unbeatable investment
How to vet a syndication operator and the questions you MUST ask before you invest
The two barriers to entry for syndications and why you DON’T need to be an accredited investor to get in the game
Tax benefits galore and how Jim is paying $0 in taxes on his syndication profits
How much a syndication can make YOU (and why it might beat owning rental properties!)
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money 456 - The Harsh Reality Real Estate Syndicators (and Investors) Face in 2024 w/J Scott
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Property Manager Finder
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Syndications: Everything You Need to Know BEFORE You Invest w/ J Scott
01:01 Syndications Explained
03:30 Better for FIRE?
07:19 How to Vet a Syndicator
13:45 Questions You MUST Ask
21:28 Interest Rate Risks
24:16 Can Anyone Invest Passively?
28:27 Passive Retirement Investing
31:00 Advice for Investors
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Has BiggerPockets Money become too focused on FIRE (financial independence, retire early)? For the past seven years, we’ve been bringing you shows highlighting the journeys of those who left their jobs to enjoy early retirement.Some of these guests did it faster than others by making more money, increasing their frugality, investing smart, or building a business. But the question many of our listeners are wondering is: Is this even possible for the average, “normal” person?
Today, we’re taking a hard look at the show’s future and asking ourselves whether or not focusing on FIRE is still the right path forward. Should we shift topics to help the everyday American get a financial leg up, or is continuing the FIRE-focused path the best way to help YOU, our listener? This isn’t a rhetorical question; we genuinely want to know!
After this episode, join the BiggerPockets Money Facebook group thread, and let us know which stories YOU want to hear the most!
In This Episode We Cover
Why the BiggerPockets Money Podcast rarely brings on “normal” guests achieving FIRE
Can anyone achieve FIRE, and if so, how do they get there?
The four financial levers you can pull to put you on the path to financial freedom
The advanced financial tactics BiggerPockets Money teaches you to grow your wealth
What to do if you feel like you can’t make any progress towards early retirement
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
Network with Other Investors on The Path to FIRE Through the BiggerPockets Forums
Finance Review Guest Onboarding
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BiggerPockets Money 63 - Financial Freedom With 5 Kids IS Possible with Jordan Klint
BiggerPockets Money 130 - Refusing to Retire at 65: How a Couple in Their 40s Managed to Hit FI in 12 Years w/Susan and Norm
Episode 560 - Dude ACTUALLY Withdraws From His 401(k) and Retires at 47 w/Eric Cooper
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What Is the FIRE Movement?
00:00 Intro
02:16 Talking Too Much About FIRE?
08:59 FIRE Isn't For Everyone
11:53 What is FIRE?
16:27 Can You Hit FIRE Being "Normal"?
22:42 Who Should Listen to BP Money?
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Achieving your FI number in just four years? If you want to do it too, you must try something different. This couple found a niche within a niche, allowing them to hit the coveted “1% rule” in real estate, skyrocketing their cash flow and passive income and allowing them to make more than almost any other landlord in their area. So, how did they do it, and what was the investment that got them there?
David and Morgan Stanhope weren’t real estate investors five years ago. They didn’t come from investor families and had zero real estate investing experience. One day, at his job as a New York State Police Investigator, David met a mentor who would change how he thought about money, financial freedom, and passive income. This was perfect because David and Morgan were already in a great place to invest—Upstate New York. But David chose NOT to invest in his home market, and for good reason.
They went south to a state known for higher home prices and crushingly high insurance costs. There, they found acreative rental property investing strategy, allowing them to make much more cash flow than regular rentals. Four years later, they’ve surpassed their $10,000/month FI goal. Now, they’re on track to hit an even bigger achievement: $70,000 per MONTH. Today, we’re talking to them about exactly how they’re getting there with investment properties you’ve probably never heard (or thought) about.
In This Episode We Cover
How to hit real estate’s “1% rule” with creative, high-cash flow rentals
Borrowing from your 401(k) to fund your first real estate deal
Making real estate cash flow EVEN with eight percent mortgage rates (yes, it’s possible)
Why David WON’T quit his job, even though he has already hit his FI number
Finding contractors and vendors when out-of-state real estate investing
Using other people’s money to invest in real estate (and why you may want experience before you do)
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
Network with Other Investors on The Path to FIRE Through the BiggerPockets Forums
Finance Review Guest Onboarding
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Mindy on BiggerPockets
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Stanhope Capital
Start Investing with “The Book on Rental Property Investing”
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Socially Conscious Investing: How to Start a Sober Living Home
00:00 Intro
01:17 Early Financial Education
05:13 Finding a Money Mentor
09:06 Hitting the 1% Rule in...Florida?
17:31 Current Cash Flow Numbers
20:41 $70K/Month Goal!?
24:09 Is Sober Living Investing Stable?
29:11 Borrowing Money to Invest
32:04 How Much Time Does It Take?
34:46 Connect with David and Morgan!
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You did it; you achieved FIRE! After over a decade of hard work, you’ve reached financial independence and can retire early. You’re making more money than you spend from passive income, work-optional, and life is good. But your dreams are starting to change. Maybe you want to spend more on experiences, build your dream house, or move to a higher-cost-of-living area. Now, your expenses are starting to creep up, and your FIRE is about to burn out. What do you do, and is it wrong to return to work?
Caitlin Muldoon has had to ask herself these questions. After grinding for fifteen years, she finally reached her FIRE goal—$10,000 per month in passive income. In her current lifestyle, she’s saving money every month, but as she moves into her dream house and expenses start to rise, her passive income may not be enough. Does this mean that Caitlin is no longer financially independent?
Today, Caitlin is sharing her full FIRE story with us. How she went from one house hack and a HELOC to a six-figure generating real estate portfolio, the struggles she had with leaving her job, realizing that her expenses would jump after her husband quit, and why retiring early isn’t always the end goal.
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In This Episode We Cover
What to do if rising living expenses are about to extinguish your FIRE
Turning your primary residence into a passive income-generating portfolio by using HELOCs
How intentionally saving money can massively propel your wealth and get you to FIRE much sooner
Why you DON’T need to quit your job, even after you reach your FIRE number
Advice for anyone who wants to build a rental property portfolio with today’s high interest rates
And So Much More!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
Network with Other Investors on The Path to FIRE Through the BiggerPockets Forums
Finance Review Guest Onboarding
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Podcast Talent Search!
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Market Finder
Rising Femme Wealth
See Mindy and Scott at BPCON2024 in Cancun!
Do You Know Your FIRE Number? Here’s What That Means
00:00 intro
01:56 Starting Salary and First Home
04:01 Rental Investing and Finding FIRE
07:13 Thoughts of Quitting
08:05 Real Estate Portfolio Timeline
13:58 Savings Rate and Reinvesting
15:47 Using HELOC to Buy Rentals
20:31 Achieving FIRE, But...
24:07 Rising Lifestyle Expenses?
31:55 Advice for FIRE
36:32 Connect with Caitlin!
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Did you know you can use your 401(k) to retire early? Yep, it’s possible. And today’s guest, Eric Cooper, is doing it atage 47! Most FIRE chasers search for how to withdraw from a 401(k) early but know that doing so will hit them with substantial penalties. The best way around this? The 72(t) rule—which is precisely what Eric has been taking advantage of. Eric uses the 72(t) rule’s “substantially equal periodic payments” to take early withdrawals from his 401(k) of $30K per year, starting at age 47. But how does it work?
Eric comes on the show to describe exactly how this early withdrawal rule works, how much you can take out, the regulations to follow so you avoid penalties, and why early retirement may be much closer than you think. But this isn’t the only early retirement income Eric has got. We’ll review his substantial real estate portfolio and detail Eric's almostunbelievable tax savings from combining tax-advantaged rental properties with rule 72(t).
Plus, Eric shares how he built a multimillion-dollar nest egg by his mid-forties and why those starting young on the path to early retirement can repeat his strategy to be much richer in retirement. Do you have money sitting in retirement accounts that you’re ready to use? The 72(t) rule might be just what you need.
In This Episode We Cover
How to access retirement funds early with the often overlooked 72(t) rule
Escaping the “middle-class trap” that stops you from retiring on your terms
Avoiding 401(k) penalties and using retirement accounts to actually retire early
The rules and regulations you MUST follow to withdraw penalty-free
How Eric amassed such a massive retirement account balance (and how you can, too)
Early retirement healthcare and how to lower your taxable income to greatly reduce premium costs
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
Network with Other Investors on The Path to FIRE Through the BiggerPockets Forums
Finance Review Guest Onboarding
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How to Access Retirement Funds Early
72(t) Calculator
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How the “Middle-Class Trap” Stops Your Early Retirement
00:00 intro
01:14 What is Rule 72(t)?
05:30 Avoiding Early Withdrawal Penalties
11:12 Building a BIG Nest Egg
17:14 Retiring Early at 47!
18:00 Different Investment Accounts
21:41 Why Withdraw Early?
24:52 Rental Income and Healthcare
30:44 Selling the Rentals?
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What if you could “retire” early, working only FOUR hours a week? Coast FIRE achiever Diania Merriam did just that! After a decade of hustle in corporate America, Diania found herself financially behind with $30,000 in debt. Dreaming of a life-changing adventure but lacking the funds, she decided to overhaul her finances. Fast forward, and now in her mid-thirties, she’s debt-free, successfully self-employed (or, as she puts it, happily “unemployed”), living life on her terms.
So, how did Diania save enough to walk away from her nine-to-five? The answer might surprise you. She didn’t need millions in the bank, and neither do YOU, to embrace early retirement. Diania asks, “Do you have enough to take a risk?” If you do, you could live the Coast FIRE lifestyle, just like her, working minimal hours and maximizing time freedom.
Ready to slash your workweek and dive into what you love? Stick around—by following Diania’s example, early retirement could be within your reach, EVEN if you’re just getting started on your FIRE journey!
In This Episode We Cover
Why you must be financially prepared to quit a soul-sucking job
Achieving Coast FIRE without millions in the bank and how to be happy living off of little
Why self-employed health insurance isn’t as big of an expense as most people think
Burning out before you hit FIRE and why being hyper-fixated on a financial goal could kill your drive
How starting your own business can save you a ton on taxes
How to “retire” early without replacing your full-time salary
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Coast FI: The Calculated Way to Retire Early WITHOUT Giving Up What You Love
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01:03 $30K in Debt!
03:22 Quitting Her "Toxic" Job
09:23 What About Health
12:02 How Much She Makes
20:53 You Have ENOUGH Money!
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The IRA vs. 401(k). You’ve heard of these retirement accounts before, but do you know the difference between the two? Maybe you have a 401(k) at work and have been diligently getting your employer match but struggle to describe what you’re investing in. You’ve heard top financial experts talk about how a Roth IRA is crucial for saving on taxes long-term, but are you eligible to invest in one? Today, we’re discussing top retirement accounts and how to start investing with just $100.
CFP (Certified Financial Planner) Kyle Mast joins Mindy on today’s show to answer common questions about 401(k)s, IRAs, Roth IRAs, and HSAs! We’ll first describe when you should invest in a 401(k) vs. an IRA, why their Roth equivalents are so valuable, especially if you’re itching to save on taxes in retirement, and the best account for beginners that (most) Americans will get free money from.
What happens after you leave a job and your 401(k) remains? Kyle discusses the options to ensure your money stays invested, even after leaving an employer. We’ll also get into the triple-tax benefit HSA (health savings account) that you should take advantage of IF you qualify, which accounts to invest in first, and what to do once you’ve maxed out your retirement accounts!
In This Episode We Cover
401(k)s vs. IRAs and which to invest in first (especially if you’re employed!)
Roth IRAs and 401(k)s explained and when to choose a Roth over a traditional account
The best retirement account for beginners and how to get free money for retirement
How to take control of a 401(k) after leaving an employer
Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and who qualifies for these extremely tax-benefited accounts
Which accounts to invest in first when maximizing retirement savings
How we would start investing for retirement if we only had $100/month extra
And So Much More!
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Traditional 401(k) vs. Roth IRA: Which One Wins?
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19:58 Health Savings Accounts (HSA)
26:46 How to Invest $100
32:00 Connect with Kyle!
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Have you ever made a poor financial decision? You’re not alone! But can a bad blunder disqualify you from FIRE? Today’s guest made a huge investment at the worst possible time, a move that had consequences a decade later. Despite this, he was still able to reach early retirement in just fifteen years!
Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Ryan Connell had a picture-perfect start to his financial independence journey—saving money at a young age and living well below his means. But then 2007 arrived, and Ryan made the “worst financial decision” of his life. He bought a house just weeks before the housing market began its historic collapse. But a move that could have derailed his quest for FIRE proved to be a minor setback because Ryan was still able to retire at the age of thirty-eight!
In this episode, you’ll learn why you should treat real estate as less of a “sure thing” and more like the stock market. Ryan discusses his current portfolio, which consists of 100% index funds, and what led him to pivot from real estate investing entirely. He even gives us a peek into the average day as an early retiree and shares why he has never had a FIRE number!
In This Episode We Cover
How Ryan rebounded from his “worst financial decision” to reach FIRE at thirty-eight
Real estate versus stocks and why you don’t need properties to retire early
Why time in the market is still more important than timing the market
Whether you can reach financial independence without stress and sacrifice
How to enjoy retirement with less productivity and more “negative time”
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Real Estate 955: BiggerNews: Real Estate vs. Stocks, the Ultimate Wealth-Building Debate
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2013 was a pivotal year for our hosts. Scott was fresh out of college and just beginning his journey to financial independence, while Mindy and her husband were well on their way to FIRE and had just launched their blog, 1,500 Days, to document their progress. But if they were starting over today, would they change anything?
Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! In today’s episode, Scott and Mindy are winding back the clock ten years and sharing what they would do differently if they were beginning their FI journey in 2024. Spoiler alert: they wouldn’t have changed very much regarding the fundamentals of frugality, saving money, and investing. But, as you’re about to find out, they would make some MAJOR tactical changes, and they even have a few regrets about not spending money!
Whether you’re brand new to FIRE or are already on track for financial freedom, you don’t want to miss this episode! You’ll learn about the real estate investing strategy Scott would prioritize in 2024, the stock investments that helped Mindy overshoot her FI number, and the lifestyle changes our hosts wish they had made along the way!
In This Episode We Cover
What Scott and Mindy would change if they were starting their FI journey today
Three types of investments that will carry you to financial independence
How to invest in real estate in 2024 (and which strategy to use)
When to prioritize saving cash over contributing to retirement accounts
The cash-flowing investment property WE would be buying in 2024
The individual stocks that catapulted Mindy toward FIRE
How to save thousands of dollars in taxes with live in flips
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money - Episode 549: Is FIRE Dead? No, But Here’s Why Most WON’T Achieve It
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This might be the fastest path to FIRE we’ve ever seen. In just two years, Emily and James were able to retire early and travel the world full-time. They didn’t have a trust fund, some huge inheritance, or a winning lottery ticket. But they did make some serious sacrifices, cutting almost everything unnecessary out of their lives to retire early and quit the jobs they were itching to get out of. How’d they do it?
After realizing they were throwing away every cent they made, James stumbled upon a popular personal finance blog. He devoured it that day at work and came home a changed man. The AC temperature was going up, the restaurant expenses were going down, and he was deadset on achieving financial freedom. His wife, Emily, needed some convincing. But, with time, they both became locked in on FIRE. They moved to a cheaper house, rode bikes to work, and rarely ate out anymore.
Just two years after discovering FIRE, they achieved it, and they did it without millions of dollars in the bank. And here’s the thing: you might be able to do it, too, IF you’re willing to put in the work. How much money are they living on? How did they cut their expenses so significantly? And how do you convince your partner or spouse to follow you on the path to financial independence? Emily and James are showing you how in today’s episode!
00:00 Intro
01:21 Poverty to Overspending
06:12 Convincing Your Spouse on FI
09:09 0% to 85% Savings Rate
16:30 Buying $50K Rentals
23:29 Retiring on $31K/Year
29:40 The Secret to FIRE
32:43 Are They Still Retired?
34:36 Advice for Finding FIRE
36:24 Connect with James and Emily!
37:19 Use These FIRE Tips
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Pay off your mortgage or invest? If you’re on the path to FIRE, you’ve probably asked yourself this question. Without a mortgage payment, you could put thousands more in your pocket every month, and your FIRE number would decrease significantly. On the other hand, investing all the money you could have spent on paying off your mortgage may allow you to build considerably more wealth and reach Fat FIRE with more assets to your name. So, which move do you make?
Mindy and Scott are coming on to debate this common investing question. On team “Don’t pay it off!” is Mindy, who just recently made a six-figure profit by NOT paying off her mortgage. How did she do it? Stick around to find out. Scott, who just bought his recent home in cash, is pro-paying off the mortgage (for some), as it may lead you to FIRE much faster than you thought.
In this episode, Scott and Mindy discuss WHO should pay off their mortgage early, the pros and cons of investing vs. going debt-free, and why one move may be MUCH better for those closer to FIRE. Want more money for your future retirement? Sick of your job and want to quit quickly and retire on your terms? We’ve got options for BOTH!
In This Episode We Cover
Whether you should pay off your mortgage early or invest instead
How Mindy made a six-figure stock profit by NOT paying off her home
Why paying off your low-interest rate mortgage may make sense EVEN in 2024
How those close to retirement can shave off a BIG portion of their FIRE number and retire now
Whether you should keep cash in a high-yield savings account instead of paying down a low-rate mortgage
Other BIG cost-saving benefits of paying off your mortgage early
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money 543 - How the “Middle-Class Trap” Stops Your Early Retirement
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01:27 Why You SHOULDN’T Pay It Off
05:35 Why You SHOULD Pay it Off
15:07 Keep Cash in the Bank?
20:54 Big Benefits of Paying it Off
27:51 What Would You Do?
29:29 Scared of Stock Performance?
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Once you hit Coast FI, you don’t need to worry about retirement. While traditional FIRE may take a bit more extra work, Coast FI allows you to let your foot off the gas and enjoy life NOW, knowing that you’ll be set for retirement by the time you’re sixty-five. Lisa hit her coast FI number at the (very) young age of twenty-seven, and she will have millions of dollars waiting for her in retirement, even if she stops investing now. How’d she do it so quickly?
When her father challenged her to save $100K by age twenty-five, Lisa said, “Why not!” She hit the goal—actually, she got there two years earlier! After much saving and significant sacrifice, Lisa had a six-figure net worth in her early twenties. From there, she began heavily investing in her retirement accounts, which now boast over a quarter of a million dollars, and she’s on track to have half a million at thirty!
How did Lisa get so far ahead of the average twenty-seven-year-old, and what can you teach your kids, grandkids, nephews, nieces, or siblings to get them on the same path? Tune in because Lisa shares how to save $100K, the easiest way to invest for retirement, the tax-free account that will make your future self rich, and her best advice for growing wealth at a young age.
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In This Episode We Cover
How to save $100K in just a few years (even if you’re starting your career)
The tax-free retirement account you can’t afford to overlook
Coast FI 101 and how to hit it early so you can enjoy spending again
The sacrifice of saving and whether or not it’s worth it to go fully frugal
Index fund investing and why it’s one of the easiest ways to start investing
Lisa’s retirement portfolio and exactly what she’s investing in now
And So Much More!
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BiggerPockets Money 124 - Starting From $0 at Age 35 as a Teacher and Becoming ‘The Millionaire Educator’
00:00 Intro
01:37 Early Financial Education
03:53 $100K by 25 Challenge
07:08 Sacrificing to Save
10:26 Current Salary and Spending
13:13 What She Invests In
15:15 Coast FI at 27
21:45 Save Your First $100K!
24:56 Follow Her Lead!
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You can take your time to reach financial independence, but why wait? With a combination of hard work, savvy investing, and additional income streams, today’s guest reached FI by the age of twenty-eight. In this episode, she provides the blueprint that teachers and other middle-class workers can use to fast-track their financial goals!
Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, Brooke Coughlin is a business owner, real estate agent, investor, and author. But, just FOUR years ago, she was a seventh-grade teacher earning a $40,000 salary. The key to her rapid success? Brooke’s workday starts at 5 a.m. and ends well after 10 p.m. This relentless work ethic has helped her build a successful cleaning business, sell over $100 million worth of real estate, and pen her very own book!
Now, working from sunup to sundown isn’t for everyone. Perhaps you just want a reasonable nest egg for a comfortable retirement or some money to pass down to your children. Whatever your financial goals, there are all kinds of helpful nuggets to take away from today’s episode. You’ll learn about the first steps of entrepreneurship, how to build a business or side hustle alongside your W2 job, and how to become financially free from any starting point!
In This Episode We Cover
How Brooke went from a $40,000 salary to financial independence in FOUR years
The BEST ways to increase your income while working a nine-to-five job
What teachers should do today to build a nest egg for retirement
The first steps you must take to become a successful entrepreneur
How to build a real estate business that allows you to leave your W2 job
And So Much More!
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00:00 Intro
00:58 Supercharging Her Income
09:49 Juggling a HEAVY Workload
12:00 Brooke’s Real Estate Portfolio
16:03 What’s Brooke’s End Goal?
25:06 Connect with Brooke!
25:50 Start Building Your Nest Egg!
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The BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast is about to hit a huge milestone—our 1,000th episode! Real estate has changed quite a bit since we started this podcast, so we’re making some changes, too.
We’re bringing on new guests and new formats while focusing on investing tactics and strategies that work in TODAY’s housing market. Oh, and did we mention fewer ads, too?
We’re still delivering the time-tested knowledge, inspiration, and news you expect from the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast so YOU can work towards financial freedom, no matter the market conditions.
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Todd retired early at age forty-four, just three years after discovering the FIRE movement. The most interesting part? He quit without reaching his FIRE number. That’s right. After realizing he couldn’t go one more day working his job, he quit, even without the perfect amount of money on the sidelines. Did he survive in the FIRE life, or did he eventually have to return to work to rebuild his portfolio? Stick around and find out!
Although Todd made a good income, he spent most of it on his lifestyle. As his family’s sole provider, every expense took away from his income, leaving him with a respectable but by no means large savings rate. One day, as Todd surfed the internet at work, he stumbled upon a financial independence blog post, and the rest was history! He chased FIRE ruthlessly for three years and eventually was able to retire on his terms.
If you’re looking to retire in your forties, quit your job, find financial freedom, or finally grow your savings, tune in for Todd’s advice. Even if you don’t have a high income, you can follow his cost-cutting, “boring” investing advice to achieve financial independence faster than you thought possible!
In This Episode We Cover
The “boring” investments that lead you to financial independence and early retirement
Coming up with your FIRE number and whether the 4% rule still works
Getting richer in retirement and how to build wealth WITHOUT working
How cutting your expenses will fast-track your path to early retirement
Quitting your job and why you MUST prepare for life in retirement BEFORE you walk away from your salary
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How to Retire Early (From Someone Who Did at Age 27)
00:00 Intro
01:09 Finding the FIRE Movement
03:24 Getting His Wife on Board
04:38 His FIRE Number
05:32 FIRE Movement Myths
07:37 Getting Richer in Retirement
11:55 Quitting His Job!
13:14 Prepare for Post-FI!
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I don't understand a 40K house. the building materials alone for a house cost more than that, never mind the labor. Plus the cost of the land? if the houses are so low cost, why would anyone rent? I couldn't even buy a driveway for that price...
how can I write in to ask a question?
She loves bachata!
sad to see people using dogs for profit...when millions of dogs die in shelters each year in the US
This is basically me! Key takeaway: Get a higher salary via a higher-paid career (rather than lower-paid job + side hustles/hobbies), before starting house-hacking
This guest was all over the place. Really hard to follow.
MINDY IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST!!! this podcast gets great guests with awesome stories, however, you never get to hear them talk because mindy is ALWAYS talking about herself and forcing her opinions on everyone else. a common phrase from her is "I'm right, dont listen to anyone else or yourself or look at the numbers of a deal, im right" Mindy Jensen is single handedly ruining an otherwise great show. Bigger Pockets, can you get a new host please?
Great Podcast. A couple things not discussed or maybe I missed them. 1) Higher 401k contributions for tax purposes 2) HSA 3) Roth coversion ladder which allows you to access money way before retirement age. This is a key to maxing out your retirement accounts.
covered calls Mindy......
Very relatable
Very inspiring
Scott didn't ask him what was his favorite joke to tell at parties
the fact that this man graduated without student debt and has still gone on to helping people pay off over a billion dollars in student loan debt shows something. it's cool to me how people can make a business out of helping people. It's one of the reasons I love the FI community. I'm excited to get to the point that I can help more and more people better their lives.
I need to listen to this episode at lease 4 times. on the really good ones I try to listen twice and then twice sitting down taking notes and this is for sure the one I'm going to do that with
I love the show. I've been listening to BP the original for years now and in some ways I like this one almost more. its diverse and always goes over stuff that's really helpful with how to live and grow your wealth.
I am for sure going to start doing this. I can cut but I suck at grocery shopping and a lot of my food goes to waste. I've wanted to start meal planning and I'm going to check out Erin's website and really start doing what I need to cut my spending in this area.
how exactly is he the right person to give advice on this topic??? he didn't have student loan debt...
I am curious to know the answer that Scott asked. What were the 20 cities and what data points was she looking at?