Blue and White Brothers

Blue and White Brothers is a podcast about all things Penn State football hosted by Tom and Andy Gathman: two brothers with two takes about one team. Tom Gathman, better known as “The Real Hiking Viking,” spends much of his time on trail and off grid living life to the full. Andy Gathman is the pastor of a small rural church and spends most of his time spreading the good news. We are as different as brothers can be with one exception: a passion for Penn State football. We bring our love of the game and lifelong sibling rivalry to each show. Join us every week as we discuss our thoughts, analysis, and perspective on Penn State football. Blue and White Brothers is a project of Pastime Sports, Ltd.

Taking Care of Business: Indiana Recap & Maryland Look-Ahead

As the Nittany Lions reach the final quarter of the season, Tom & Andy are feeling good after Penn State took care of business against a floundering Indiana team. They break down the dominant performance, and then turn their attention to what could be a tricky game against a talented Maryland team.

11-07
01:57:03

Oh Captain, My Captain: Introducing Coach Campbell

Matt Campbell has been hired as the 17th head coach of Penn State's storied football program and Tom & Andy discuss it all. They dig into Coach Campbell's background and share their thoughts on where the tumultuous search ultimately landed. Plus, they open the Mailbag and discuss News & Notes following the results from championship weekend. Finally, they check in on PSU's bowl game opponent in the Pinstripe Bowl.

12-09
02:04:22

Unrivaled: Rutgers Recap & Coaching Search Deep Dive

Tom & Andy wrap up Penn State's regular season after a final game victory over Rutgers. Then they check in on Penn State's still open coaching search after a hiring frenzy by other schools over the weekend. Plus, Tom gives his Ten Second Takes on all the rivalry week scores.

12-02
02:03:52

Senior Day Sendoff: Nebraska Recap & Rutgers Look-Ahead

Tom & Andy discuss PSU's dominant 37-10 win vs. Nebraska team and look ahead to their final game against Rutgers, with a win enabling them to reach .500 for the season and give them bowl eligibility. They also address Franklin's recent hiring at Virginia Tech and the excitement around Terry Smith as a candidate for Penn State. Plus, Mailbag and Ten Second Takes.

11-25
02:14:15

Land Grant Glory: Michigan State Recap & Nebraska Look-Ahead

Tom & Andy relish Penn State's first win in more than two months, and the first ever for interim coach Terry Smith. Then they look ahead to the final home game of the season against a tough Nebraska team. Plus, Ten Second Takes and a look inside the Mailbag

11-18
02:13:34

And So It Goes: Indiana Recap & Michigan State Look-Ahead

Tom & Andy lament a sixth straight loss for Penn State, while noting some positives in a valiant performance against the #2 team in the country. Then they talk about hope for a long-awaited win against Michigan State. Plus Tom's Ten-Second Takes and an unexpected rant on college football's latest financing scheme.

11-11
02:17:22

Between a Rock and a Hard Place: Ohio State Recap & Indiana Preview

Tom & Andy recap Penn State's loss against #1 Ohio State and look ahead to another tough matchup, this time with #2 Indiana. Plus, Tom gives his ten-second takes on the weekends headlines and open the mailbag.

11-04
02:10:09

Halloween in the Horseshoe: Ohio State Look-Ahead

The boys are back at it after the bye week to preview Penn State's toughest game of the season. Can the Nittany Lions conjure some Halloween magic and pull off the upset? Plus, they recap the best college football games of the weekend with Tom's Ten-Second Takes.

10-28
02:06:41

Hawkeye Heartbreak: Iowa Recap

Tom & Andy discuss Penn State's first game after Franklin's firing, in which Penn State suffered their fourth straight loss, their second straight by one point. Plus Tom gives his ten-second takes on college football headlines, and they open the mailbag once more.

10-21
02:07:53

Franklin Fired: Northwestern Fallout

Tom & Andy react to the dramatic midseason firing of head coach James Franklin following the team's unprecedented 3-game collapse in a season with championship expectations. Then, they go to the mailbag to hear the questions and comments from the BWB community, and conclude with a preview of the upcoming game at Iowa.

10-14
02:10:33

The Letter of the Day Is "F": UCLA Recap

F is for...a Festivus-style "airing of grievances," in which Tom & Andy pull no punches while debriefing one of the program's worst-ever losses to a floundering UCLA team.

10-06
01:47:33

Ugly Duckling: Oregon Recap

Tom & Andy commiserate over a crushing last-second loss as history yet again repeats itself. Plus, they open an overflowing mailbag with questions about James Franklin, Drew Allar, and hope for the future.

10-01
01:42:09

Duck Duck Go: Oregon Look-Ahead

Tom & Andy preview the most anticipated game since the Orange Bowl, and the biggest whiteout game in nearly a decade, as Nittany Lions take on the Oregon Ducks in Prime Time. Plus, they catch up on their correspondence in the mailbag.

09-24
01:24:07

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Early Season Overview

Tom & Andy are back at it after a three-week hiatus to discuss the first month of the season. With the easy part of the season over, will Penn State be ready for the true tests to come as they get ready for conference play? Plus, Tom's ten-second takes on the biggest games of the last four weeks.

09-22
01:12:15

Wolf Pack Win: Nevada Recap

Tom & Andy are off their regular schedule for a few weeks, but they take a few minutes to share their reactions right after PSU 46-11 win over Nevada in the first football game of the season.

08-31
50:54

And So It Begins: Nevada Look-Ahead

The 2025 season is finally here! In less than a week, the Nittany Lions take the field against the Nevada Wolfpack. While not a marquee matchup, it gives an excited fanbase their first glimpse of a team with national-title aspirations. Tom & Andy offer a complete game preview, plus they dip into the mailbag and check on some News and Notes.

08-25
01:29:35

Could Be Special: Previewing the Special Teams and Final Preseason Thoughts

Tom & Andy take a look at Penn State's special teams including the kicking specialists, returners, and coverage teams. Plus, they give their final takes on Penn State's season before the team takes the field.

08-21
01:19:45

It's Complicated: Previewing the Defense

Tom & Andy take a closer look at Penn State's defense, which has plenty of star power but some question marks in key spots and significant depth concerns as well. Will Jim Knowles be able to install his "complicated" scheme and get the defense to play at a championship level in time to face the Big Ten's best?

08-18
01:09:43

Get Ready for Fireworks: Previewing the Offense

Tom & Andy take a deep dive into Penn State's offense, with an embarrassment of riches in returning talent following last year's CFP semifinal run. Will it be enough to get them over the hump and put them on track for a national-championship run?

08-16
01:15:54

The Hype Is Real: 2025 Season Overview

Tom & Andy can hardly contain themselves as the 2025 season approaches. In this first of 4 preseason episodes, they give an overview of this year's Penn State Nittany Lions and why they think the national championship talk is more than just hype.

08-12
01:15:29

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