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Welcome to Bourbon of Proof. This is a show where we talk to those who have made it in the legal profession and we do it over great conversations and spirits including bourbon, whiskey and scotch. It's either going to arrive at the station on time or go off the rails entirely. The series is about law and life, hosted by Bob Simon.
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Live from the CAALA Convention in Las Vegas, the Bourbon of Proof crew hosts a roundtable that's one part legal symposium and one part open-bar chaos. Congressman Derek Tran defends his right to wear Jordans in Congress, Marissa Roy campaigns to clean up L.A. (while taking bourbon shots like a pro), and Gerald Singleton talks about his firm's HUGE Tesla autopilot verdict. Other highlights include tales of Maker's Mark lawsuits, Taylor Swift concert ejections, and more than a few spontaneous toasts. It's civic engagement meets 120-proof whiskey—because nothing says "justice" like getting drunk in front of a live audience!
This week, the guys welcome Rahul Ravipudi - former Trial Lawyer of the Year, fellow fantasy footballer and proud Buffalo Bills fan (a detail Bob just can't resist roasting). Rahul opens up about the toll long trials away from his family can take, his passion for children's rights in court, and why AI is best used as a booster, not a crutch. In between collusion accusations, Bob, Mauro and Rahul share some hilarious stories (per usual) as well as some delicious new pours… Bottoms up!!
This week Bob and Mauro welcome their old buddy turned Congressman, Derek Tran — a man who went from winning cases to winning elections (barely)! Derek opens up about his $46 million campaign slugfest, trading a seven-figure income for a government paycheck, and why Congress is more Veep than West Wing. The guys toast to Derek's military service with 132-proof bourbon, debate the ethics of whiskey gifts for public officials, and—as is often the case—somehow end up talking about Mauro's underwear.
This week the guys are in Charleston, South Carolina where they welcome former U.S. Attorney Adair Boroughs. Adair has taken on everything from tax cheats with private jets to child predators hiding behind social media—and lived to tell the tales with equal parts grit and grace. The crew also dives into female master distillers, bourbon science, and Madeleine Albright's jewelry. Justice, booze, and a hell of a conversation—cheers to that!
This week the guys sit down with Marissa Roy—Deputy Attorney General, poker shark, whiskey lover, and candidate for L.A. City Attorney. Between fighting for workers' rights and surviving East Coast winters, Marissa proves she's a force to be reckoned with. Cheers to whiskey, politics, and having a strong poker face both in and out of the courtroom!
This week, the guys welcome Australia's own Courtney Barber. Courtney is Chief of Sales at Independent Life and also hosts the Settlement Nation podcast—two platforms where she offers sharp financial advice for lawyers and their clients. Naturally, Bob and Mauro take the opportunity to ask for Courtney's professional opinion on whether or not they should buy a private plane. The conversation then detours Down Under, where Courtney teaches the boys how to survive run-ins with Australia's deadliest creatures. To top it off, they all enjoy a friendly game of "Which Australian Animal Would You Want to Kill You?" Cheers, mates!
This week on Bourbon of Proof, the guys welcome powerhouse attorney (and all-around superhero mom) Bibi Fell. She shares deeply personal stories about her young daughter's encounter with cancer and their heroic journey together back to health. And if that weren't touching enough, we get to hear Bibi's angelic singing voice as well. Lawyers, life lessons, and lullabies (stay awake Mauro!!)... this very special episode's got it all!
Live from Huntington Beach, the Bourbon of Proof crew braves the unthinkable—RAIN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA?! On this unconventional, outdoor episode, Bob and Alex's wives finally make their podcast debut. They dive into stories of shared family vacations and Mauro's legendary ability to always be late (while somehow still getting everyone into the best spots for dinner and drinks)! A little tequila, a lot of thunder and a whole bunch of spousal truth-telling—what could possibly go wrong?
This week, Bob and Mauro welcome Quintessa Marketing founder Lauren Von Mingee—who went from fetching coffee for personal injury lawyers to running her own PI marketing empire. Lauren breaks down how she scales law firms and intake services, why she calls herself the "world's best problem solver," and how she gives away a jaw-dropping 50% of her income. And speaking of charity, Mauro confesses to Lauren about scooping up as much free Quintessa swag as he can at legal conferences when no one is looking… What a rascal!!
Today on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro welcome AI wizards of plaintiff law, Jay Madheswaran and Ryan Jensen. Jay reveals the curious origin of his company's name, Eve, warns about the risks of tossing your legal data into hungry AI models and even ponders if artificial intelligence might one day taste and smell (cheers to that?). Meanwhile, Ryan tackles the uphill battle of convincing skeptical attorneys that AI isn't out to steal their lunch—it's just here to cook it faster! Oh—and through all the tech talk, Mauro makes his case (again) that nobody ever gets his name right! Salut!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  This week on Bourbon of Proof, legal tech wizard Kenny Eliason joins Bob and Mauro straight from Las Vegas. He shares stories about getting the boot from law school and how it actually turned out to be the best plot twist in his career. He also drops knowledge on how AI and social media are shaking up the legal world and dives into how his company, Quilia, is turning law firms into productivity powerhouses. And if that weren't enough, Kenny has a very convincing argument for why driving from Vegas to LA is always better than flying... Buckle up!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  Today on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro are joined by attorney, podcaster, and certified Kentucky expert Mikaela Dixon — Bob's former law clerk turned rising legal star. Mikaela hosts the Ladies in Law podcast, so she knows her way around a microphone (and a courtroom). The guys share stories from the Kentucky Derby and Mikaela proves she can hold her own when it comes to Bluegrass State trivia. She's not just sipping bourbon, ladies and gentlemen — she's serving facts!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  This time on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro welcome legal tech trailblazer Vivek Rao. He founded Foundation AI to solve a massive bottleneck law firms face daily: the flood of physical mail and email in legal workflows. He dives into the current capabilities of legal AI, how far automation has come, and answers the big question: how long until AI agents are doing everything for us? (it may be sooner than you think) Don't worry, it's not all business — once the whiskey starts flowing, Bob quizzes Vivek about his "pirate days" aboard a booze cruise in Portugal... Ahoy!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com This week on Bourbon of Proof, Bob and Mauro are joined by the incomparable Micki Love of CJ Advertising and Xcelerator Consulting. They dive into why data is the real MVP behind law firm growth, how AI-driven intake is changing the game, and why making clients repeat themselves might be the silent killer of your firm's reputation. They also tackle the hot topic of AI transparency—should firms disclose it? Should they use it as a selling point? And if all that weren't enough, there's Garrison Bros Whiskey Pecan Ice Cream in the mix!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  This week on Bourbon of Proof the guys welcome Joe Rodonis, a fitness coach and mental strength junkie who immediately questions how he ended up on a legal podcast. But Joe fits right in, flexing his muscles AND his mind as they dive into the psychology behind fitness, law, and the weird overlap between a bench press and a courtroom bench. Their chat gets philosophical, a little sweaty, and possibly competitive as Bob and Mauro settle things the only way that makes sense: a push-up contest. Grab your favorite bourbon-infused protein shake and join the reps, rants, and ridiculousness — LFG!!
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  On this episode of Bourbon of Proof, lawyer-turned-producer Gary Raskin joins the guys to talk shop—Hollywood-style. From negotiating entertainment deals to carving out his own space in the industry, Gary knows how to hustle in a business built on dreams and contracts. He also spills the (bourbon-soaked) tea on being an early investor in Brother's Bond Bourbon and helping the brand grow into a fan favorite. Meanwhile, Mauro takes a long winter's nap mid-episode... 
https://justiceteamnetwork.com  In this episode, Darren Fancher rolls in with gifts—cocktail kits from The Mixing Glass & Market in Costa Mesa, CA. This legal tech visionary joins Bob and Mauro to stir, sip, and spill the tea on his journey from Silicon Valley burnout to eventual startup success. He opens up about selling a company mid-COVID (party canceled), and how his latest venture, Bot Mediation, is settling disputes faster than you can say "calendar continuance." The guys also take a nostalgic detour into Bob's illustrious telemarketing days. Yes, folks, Bob once sold dreams… one phone call at a time.
https://justiceteamnetwork.com On this effervescent episode of Bourbon of Proof, the guys sip on something stronger while guest Colleen Joyce enjoys some bubbly (she's more Dom than Jim Beam). She shares how she built Lawyer.com from a startup to a legal tech powerhouse with a bold brand that she quite literally chased across the globe—including a wild trip to Greece to recruit none other than Lindsay Lohan to be the celebrity face of the company. Colleen discusses leading the AI charge in the legal space, what her company looked like at the beginning vs. today, and she and Bob even find time to create some hypothetical dream Euro vacations. All that while Mauro breaks down his conspiracy theories about Colombian hippos and L.A. parrots forming rogue empires... Settle in and enjoy!  
  On another "dry" episode of Bourbon of Proof, the guys sit down with attorney, trailblazer, and all-around badass Angel Reyes for a conversation over a delicious, alcohol-free gin alternative. Angel dives into stories about growing up in Puerto Rico, drops wisdom on navigating property tax madness in Texas vs. California, and explains why his firm lives by a "file first" mentality to fast-track justice! The crew also takes a nostalgic detour through Bob and Mauro's glory days on the baseball field (spoiler: neither of them is making the Hall of Fame) and Angel shares how a bold move—becoming the first legal advertiser on Univision—paid off in a big way. An episode full of stories about risk and resilience, pull up a chair and jump in!
In a rare twist, the whiskey stays corked as East Coast Lawyer Joe Volta joins Bob and Mauro for an alcohol-free episode of BOP (don't worry, the chaos remains intact). Joe gets real about his journey through addiction and recovery, "dishes" on his culinary past, and throws some shade at Bob's beloved Steelers in favor of his Ravens. He also drops wisdom on how to land and actually KEEP clients—and discusses his personal strategy of "firing himself." Meanwhile, Mauro admits he travels with a suspiciously thick pile of mail (bills? fan letters? expired Bed Bath & Beyond coupons?) and passionately ranks his favorite board games. This one's a sober reminder that the proof isn't always in the bourbon.
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