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Building Tomorrow is a show exploring the biggest issues in the Australian construction landscape by having real conversations with the people behind the scenes shaping the industry.

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Kevin Porter is an Anthropologist and Culture Change Consultant who has extensively studied the Australian construction industry. Kevin has spent his career studying human behaviour and providing leaders with the information they need to make choices, grow their businesses, and improve workplace culture. In this episode, Kevin explains the concept of culture from an anthropological perspective and describes his observations from his time embedded in the construction industry. He outlines how companies often have contradictory stated principles and practices, which can lead to significant physical and psychological harm for the employees, as well as major issues for the business. Kevin also emphasises that any industry can change its culture, but it has to put in the work.   Mental health support: This episode contains discussions about suicide and mental health. In the event of an emergency, dial 000. For other mental health support, please visit your local hospital emergency department or contact the following support services: Lifeline: 13 11 14 or https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue: 1300 224 636 or https://www.beyondblue.org.au/   Resources and links: Kevin Porter on LinkedIn   Connect: The Society of Construction Law Australia website The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn   Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Dado Hrustanpasic is a Partner at Holding Redlich and an Honorary Senior Fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School, where he lectures in construction dispute resolution. Dado has over a decade of experience in major projects and infrastructure disputes and is dual-qualified in law and civil engineering. In this episode, Dado explains the evolution of major project delivery in Australia and highlights the common triggers, resolution strategies and preventative measures for project disputes. He also discusses the impact of proper liability, the rise in complex, multi-party disputes, and why a flexible, multi-disciplinary approach is essential for resolving conflicts and disputes.   Resources and links: Dado Hrustanpasic on LinkedIn   Connect: The Society of Construction Law Australia website The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn   Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Earlier this year at the annual Society of Construction Law Australia conference in Brisbane, we caught up with panellists and moderators from around Australia to discuss the biggest issues in the industry today. Mia Timpano is a former journalist and final-year law student who describes herself as a “construction law enthusiast”.Harris Ashton is a Legal Research Officer at VCAT and the winner of the 2024 student Brooking Prize for his paper ‘Illegality and Quantum Meruit in Residential Construction Law.’ Michael Bleby is the Deputy Property Editor at The Australian Financial Review and has written extensively about property and construction for more than a decade. In this episode, Mia discusses how lawyers can incorporate AI into their workflows to work smarter without compromising the fundamental skills necessary for success. Harris explains how illegal contracts leave homeowners vulnerable in the event of problems and what needs to be done to prevent people from agreeing to dodgy deals. Finally, Michael shares his thoughts about how to deliver the necessary infrastructure for the 2032 Brisbane Olympics.   Resources and links: Michael Bleby on LinkedIn Harris Ashton on LinkedIn Mia Timpano website   Connect: Society of Construction Law Australia website Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn   Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
The Stynes Address is the Society of Construction Law Australia’s annual high-profile lecture related to the practice of law and the construction industry. In 2024 the Stynes Address was given by Gabrielle Trainor AO. Gabrielle Trainor has had a diverse career across the construction industry, but one of her most important roles has been as chair of the Construction Industry Culture Taskforce.  This taskforce is a collaboration between the Australian Constructors Association and government agencies with the aim of making a step change in the culture of the industry through the government procurement process. In her Stynes Address Gabrielle Trainor AO provided insight into the key issues facing the construction industry and practical insight into how those issues are being addressed by the Taskforce through the development of a Culture Standard. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
The Stynes Address is the Society of Construction Law Australia’s annual high-profile lecture related to the practice of law and the construction industry. This is the inaugural address given in 2023 by SoCLA’s patron, Justice Katie Stynes, after whom the address has been named. In 2023 Justice Stynes talked to us about the procedural reforms she is leading from her role as judge in charge of the Technology, Engineering and Construction List of the Victorian Supreme Court. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Based on the V601 v Probuild case decided in the Victorian Supreme Court in December 2021, Ben McLeod presented this talk in Melbourne in February 2023. Ben was part of the team who acted successfully for Probuild in this matter and outlines a range of complex issues, including how Principals and Superintendents should ensure that a contractor’s claims are assessed fairly; the consequences that can flow from the Superintendent's independence having been compromised; and the Court’s approach to ‘constructive acceleration’ claims.   Ben McLeod Partner at Piper Alderman, Melbourne. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-mcleod-99a0b951/ Ben is a strategic advisor across all stages of the project lifecycle, from procurement and contract administration through to dispute resolution and avoidance. He has particular expertise in the strategic management and resolution of complex disputes, having acted for principals, contractors and consultants on major infrastructure projects in Australia and internationally. He has assisted clients across a range of industries, including transport, utilities, property development and power (renewable and non-renewable). In 2022, Ben was listed by Doyle’s Guide as a recommended ‘back end’ Construction and Infrastructure lawyer in Victoria. He was also named as a ‘Rising Star’ by Doyle’s Guide in 2021.   This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Stepping back from a process to see the complex interactions happening between all of the parties can lead to insights that could prevent potentially catastrophic consequences. The failure of a pedestrian bridge at Florida International University led to 6 fatalities. In this talk, Sean explore the failures in the design, peer review and construction phases of the project, and the need for investigations to look into organisational causes of failure as well as the technical causes.   Sean Brady, Managing Director, Brady Heywood Pty Ltd https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/ If you’d like to learn more about complexity then be sure and check out Sean’s Simplifying Complexity Podcast at: Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/simplifying-complexity/id1651582236 Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/show/3SfqApqNW3wNXcg2E7etij   This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Is the Australian industry’s Standard Form broken? If so, why and can it be fixed? The training and learning involved to build confidence in a new industry contract should be considered when making changes. Scott Alden presents his talk “When opportunity knocks: Is NEC4 the Answer to Australia’s Broken Standard form ?” This talk was voted by attendees as one of the Top 3 highlights of our national conference “Getting Risk Right”, held in Hobart, Tasmania in May 2022. Scott Alden, Partner - Construction Team (Sydney), HWL Ebsworth Lawyers https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-alden-5884432b/ HWL Edsworth Lawyers https://hwlebsworth.com.au/ The Australian independent commercial law firm of choice for market leading expertise and exceptional value. This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
The past, present and future of collaborative contracting models. One of the audience-selected highlights of our national conference “Getting Risk Right”, held in Hobart, Tasmania in May 2022. Sean Kelly and Yazmin Judd focus on the results of an anonymous industry survey which was completed by public and private sector employees, lawyers, engineers, consultants, contractors and subcontractors. Sean Kelly, Special Counsel https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-kelly-450296a4/ Sean is a commercial lawyer specialising in the construction and infrastructure sectors. He acts for local and international clients regarding claims and dispute resolution on complex construction and infrastructure projects. Sean is also a guest lecturer at the University of Melbourne, and presents at seminars and conferences on developments in the construction and infrastructure sectors. Yazmin Judd, Lawyer https://www.linkedin.com/in/yazmin-judd-b3b049149/ Clayton Utz https://www.claytonutz.com/ Clayton Utz is a leading Australian law firm with a confident and engaging approach, and a genuine commitment to client service. This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
An exercise in highly paid lawyers dancing on the head of a pin. We deep dive into the roles the law, the lawyers and the courts played in this scandal. This wasn’t a case of a few bad apples, the whole system was stacked against the Subpostmasters. The system silenced, suppressed and hid information and nothing like justice was achieved. At some point the overriding duty to the court owed by lawyers got lost in a fog of protecting the client at all costs. The barrister acting for the Sub-postmasters, after reading internal Post Office legal advice from 2014, said “In my almost 30 years’ experience at the bar I have never come across information that has been so electrifying. It almost caused my teeth to fall out when I read it.” It took 20 years and a class action for Tracy Felstead to recover a mere £17,000 pounds for her wrongful conviction in 2001. And this story is far from over yet. The Solicitors Regulatory Authority is a core participant in the Post Office Horizon IT inquiry which is probing the in house and external lawyers for potential wrongdoing. Source Material Nick Wallis, ‘The Great Post Office Scandal’, 2021, Bath Publishing. Paul Marshall, ‘Failed Justice - how commercial interest displaced the interests of justice in the Post Office case’, 30 March 2022, Queen’s University Belfast, Institute of Legal Studies Disclaimer This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia   This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
In the opening I introduced that the Horizon software was the main deliverable of a billion pound PFI project let by the Post Office. The contract was awarded in May 1996 to Fujitsu who won the job because of their winning offer to bear the software development costs in exchange for 8 years guaranteed transaction fee every time a customer of the Department of Social Service used their new swipe card in a Post Office. It doesn’t take long for the deal and the software to go off the rails. How on earth did this come about and why is it such a hard lesson for us to learn that it can be the technology at fault, not user error. Source Material Nick Wallis, ‘The Great Post Office Scandal’, 2021, Bath Publishing. Paul Marshall, ‘Failed Justice - how commercial interest displaced the interests of justice in the Post Office case’, 30 March 2022, Queen’s University Belfast, Institute of Legal Studies Disclaimer This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
The UK Post Office Scandal – Megaprojects, IT Systems and the Law This story is about the most widespread miscarriage of justice in English history. The scale of this story exceeds the witch trials of the 16th and 17th century. This story is relevant to every construction lawyer in Australia because it is a story rooted in how we deliver major projects, how we think about technology and its reliability and how we compromise our fundamental obligation as lawyers to act in the best interests of the law. This story will make you shake your head in disbelief. But as you listen to it, you need to keep in mind, all the way through, that there were lawyers, just like you and me, doing what they thought was their job. And this story is about regular people who worked for and ran Post Offices all across the UK who were prosecuted for theft by the Post Office after the launch of the Post Offices’ first digital system, called Horizon. Almost 700 people were successfully prosecuted for theft by the Post Office. But they hadn’t don’t it and it took 20 years to prove their innocence. Source MaterialNick Wallis, ‘The Great Post Office Scandal’, 2021, Bath Publishing. Paul Marshall, ‘Failed Justice - how commercial interest displaced the interests of justice in the Post Office case’, 30 March 2022, Queen’s University Belfast, Institute of Legal Studies Disclaimer This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Valuable insights into the health and wellbeing of those working in the Australian construction industry and what legal practitioners can do to improve the status quo. Dr. Natalie Galea presents the keynote for our 2022 national conference “ Getting Risk Right”, held in Hobart, Tasmania in May 2022. Fully titled “I would like to see my son more than I see my site manager: tackling human rights risks in the Australian construction sector”. Dr. Galea outlines her industry research project into employment and workplace cultures within the construction industry. Highlighting dramatic statistics about the current shortfall in recruitment for major infrastructure projects, she presents findings from her own industry study on the positives effects of changes to entrenched working practices.   Dr Natalie Galea on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliegalea/ Natalie Galea’s research focuses on gender equality and human rights in the Australian construction sector, and human rights and athlete abuse in elite sport.  She developed Cultivate Sponsorship, a one of a kind sponsorship program to fix male dominated sectors. If you would like more information about Cultivate, sponsorship and it's effectiveness, contact me or check out www.cultivatesponsorship.com. Before she studied the construction sector, she worked in it. Natalie spent 15 years delivering building, civil, defence and mining projects in Australia and the Middle East and North Africa.  This podcast is for reference purposes only.  It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such.  You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances.  The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own.  They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
For those who missed it, this podcast is a recording of our recent webinar featuring Kiri Parr, Tony Barry and Rob Nelson-Williams. In it, they discuss the internationally renowned and widely used FIDIC suite of Contracts and their potential for wider adoption in Australia. This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Jon Davies, CEO of the Australian Constructors Association, discusses the significant challenges facing the construction industry and ACA's plan to help fix them. --- This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
Lucy Greenwood, international arbitrator, diversity champion and green arbitration advocate shares her insights on the impact of arbitration on the environment and how we can drive sustainable change. In this episode, Melissa Yeo, Chair of the Society's Communications Sub-committee, sits down with Lucy Greenwood to discuss arbitration, its impact on the environment and how we can drive sustainable change. Details about the Green Arbitration Pledge can be found here: www.greenerarbitrations.com.   This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
This episode is Part 2 of Melissa Yeo's discussion with Petrina Macpherson and Matthew Hickey on eHearings and eMediations and why they have given us all #onemorethingtothinkabout   This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
In this podcast, Melissa Yeo sits down with Petrina Macpherson of Minter Ellison and Matthew Hickey of Level Twenty Seven Chambers to discuss eHearings and eMediations and why they have given us all #onemorethingtothinkabout This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
In this podcast, Aiden Davey, Dr Matthew Bell and Kiri Parr sit down with Melissa Yeo to discuss the new duty of care introduced in the NSW Design and Building Practitioners Act 2020 and the significant consequences it might have on the construction industry.  This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
They say if you fail to plan, you plan to fail.  In the current landscape that means putting your valuable data in the hands of criminals.  In this podcast, Brendan Read and Vishka Peiris of Korda Mentha discuss Cyber Hygiene during Covid-19. Brendan is a former detective from the Queensland Police High Tech Crime Investigation Unit.  He is highly experienced in investigating criminal and civil matters and helps clients to navigate technologies and their use in the collection and preservation of evidence.  Before joining Korda Mentha's forensic technology team in 2015, Vishka worked in various IT roles where he developed a diverse set of IT skills in computer systems and networks.  He has experience working on high profile investigations of cyber incidents, IP theft, corporate fraud and financial crime and forensic discovery matters. We hope you enjoy their presentation. This podcast is for reference purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon as such. You should always obtain legal advice about your specific circumstances. The views expressed in these podcasts are the speakers' own. They should not be taken as recommendations of the Society of Construction Law Australia. This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.
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