Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Support UJA, this episode's sponsor: UJA.orgRegister here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwoSubscribe here to INSIDE Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Sunday, Palestinian operatives attacked Israeli forces operating in the Rafah area, killing two soldiers and wounding three more. The IDF troops were operating on the Eastern side of the Yellow Line – an area which remains under Israeli control according to the terms of the ceasefire deal. The IDF responded with dozens of strikes on Hamas targets throughout Gaza. Meanwhile, since the ceasefire came into effect last Monday, Hamas has been conducting public executions of Palestinians who oppose their rule. To discuss what’s been unfolding in Gaza over the past week, Dan was joined by Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib and Joseph Braude. Ahmed grew up in Gaza and left in 2005. He is one an outspoken critic of Hamas and runs the organization Realign for Palestine, which promotes de-radicalization of Palestinian society. Joseph is the President of the Center for Peace Communications, which has amplified anti-Hamas voices in Gaza throughout this war. 00:00 Introduction06:48 What happened during the brief rupture in the Gaza ceasefire?09:49 Will Hamas return the bodies of all deceased hostages?10:40 Anti-Hamas factions in Gaza12:42 The security dilemmas Gazan civilians face16:47 How ceasefires increase the risk of Hamas violence against dissidents18:19 Public support for Hamas among Gazans22:03 Can there be an anti-Hamas uprising in Gaza?27:07 International responses to Trump's Gaza plan and obstacles of reconstruction36:25 The Arab world's shifting attitude toward Hamas41:03 Predictions for the future of Gaza CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Register here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwoSubscribe here to INSIDE Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgRabbi Angela Buchdahl's book: https://tinyurl.com/4m4mrfftGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: For a bonus episode, Dan was joined by Rabbi Angela Buchdahl to discuss her new book Heart of a Stranger: An Unlikely Rabbi’s Story of Faith, Identity, and Belonging. Rabbi Buchdahl is the senior rabbi at Central Synagogue in New York City. She was the first East-Asian to be ordained as a rabbi, and has received national recognition for her Jewish leadership, including being listed as one of Newsweek’s “50 most influential rabbis.”She shares her journey from feeling like an outsider to Judaism to becoming a contemporary Jewish leader. They also discuss how Rabbi Buchdahl guided her congregation after Oct. 7 and how the past two years have changed the Jewish community around her. 00:00 Introduction06:33 Grief After October 709:21 Engaging with the Jewish community post-October 711:14 Facing antisemitism in America12:21 Rabbi Buchdahl's first sermon after October 715:55 Progressive dilemmas and the Israeli/Palestinian narratives18:02 Visiting Israel and reflecting on Jewish peoplehood21:14 Rabbi Buchdahl's Jewish journey30:48 Diaspora versus Israeli Jewish perspectives35:08 The mitzvah of loving oneself as a prerequisite for loving others37:06 Remaining spiritual, not just political40:58 Rebuilding after traumaCREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

LIVE EPISODE TAPING with Dan, Nadav & AmitDATE: Thursday October 23 at 8:30 pmLOCATION: Streicker CenterRegister hereWith the implementation of the ceasefire and all the living hostages back home, where do Israel, Gaza, the Arab States, and US foreign policy go from here? From Jerusalem to Washington, there are still many unanswered questions, which will be the focus of this live podcast taping.Join Dan Senor and two veteran Israeli journalists and regular Call Me Back contributors: Nadav Eyal of Yedioth Achronot and Amit Segal of Israel’s Channel 12 News & Israel HaYom. Amit is the author of the new book, A Call at 4 AM: Thirteen Prime Ministers and the Crucial Decisions that Shaped Israeli Politics.Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Today we are joined by author and journalist Ari Shavit, who has been closely following the making of the hostage-ceasefire deal. Ari and Dan discuss what happened behind the scenes that took us from the seemingly intractable situation of the past two years to suddenly seeing our hostages return and regional leaders, as well as President Trump, touting a new era of hope and peace.00:00 Introduction05:33 Reacting to the hostages' return13:15 Trump's initial Gaza policy16:56 The effect of the "Gaza Riviera Plan" on regional actors22:03 Hamas' approach to negotiations24:45 The transformative role of the failed Israeli strike in Doha30:56 Mediation roles of Egypt, Turkey, and Qatar34:33 How Trump forced a full hostage deal37:08 The "two Gaza solution"CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmebackSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Monday, October 13th, all 20 live hostages were returned to Israel and reunited with their families after two years in Hamas captivity. Israelis all over the country erupted in cheer, with tens of thousands of people in Tel Aviv’s hostage square celebrating as news of returns trickled in. Hamas has also handed over just 4 of the 28 bodies of deceased hostages, in what Israel is calling a “blatant breach” of the ceasefire agreement. While all of this unfolded, President Trump landed in Israel, where he met with former hostages and hostage families and gave an hour-long speech at the Knesset in which he lauded his administration’s support for Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu’s leadership throughout this war. President Trump then traveled to Sharm El-Sheikh in Egypt, where European, Arab, and Muslim leaders are meeting to discuss Trump’s plan for the future of Gaza. To discuss all the many dramatic events that took place on this historic day, in which President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu declared that the war is over, Dan was joined by Ark Media Contributor Nadav Eyal and International Law Expert Tal Becker. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

A Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXVRachel Goldberg-Polin's speech on Oct 11th, 2025 - https://youtu.be/VyTIiBz7W20?si=SjSnGq_glvPnXLUo Steve Witkoff’s, Jared Kushner’s, and Ivanka Trump’s speeches at Hostage Square: mako.co.il/news-israel/2025_q4/Article-5da0684b793d991027.htmSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Ark Media Contributor Amit Segal released a new book titled A Call at 4am, in which he dives into Israel’s thirteen prime ministers and the most critical moments that shaped Israeli history. Dan sat down with Amit to discuss some of the book’s most dramatic moments, from Golda Meir’s sleepless nights before the Yom Kippur War to Amit’s personal conversation with Benjamin Netanyahu shortly after the October 7 attack.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmebackSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of President Trump’s plan to end the Gaza war which requires the release of all remaining living hostages within 72 hours. Israelis have responded with an overwhelming outpour of emotion. But what do we really know about the plan and its implications for the future of the region? Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to unpack what we know and what we don’t at this historical juncture. 00:00 Introduction 04:40 The emotional climate in Israel08:32 Details of the ceasefire deal and hostage release12:21 The limits of the deal14:29 Trump’s goals of hostage returns and regional peace18:49 U.S.-Israeli partnership under Trump23:24 External pressure on Hamas in the lead-up to the deal24:45 How Hamas’ is narrating the outcome of the war26:33 Regional actors’ stakes and goals: Qatar, Turkey, Egypt30:08 What this means for Israel’s internal politics38:47 Israeli public’s thirst for reform 43:21 Jewish people and the Israeli-Diaspora relationship CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsA Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXVSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Israel and Hamas have reached an agreement tonight to end the Gaza war based on the outline of President Trump’s plan. The agreement includes the imminent release of all remaining living hostages in Gaza in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. In an emergency pod, Ark Media Correspondent Nadav Eyal joins Dan to share his initial impressions of the first phase of the deal, what this means for the short and long term balance of power in the region, and whether Hamas gets to claim this as a victory.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Please follow this link to support our sponsor, UJA Federation of New York: https://bit.ly/donate-to-uja Making Sense with Sam Harris: samharris.org/podcastsSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrASubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: This Tuesday will mark the two-year anniversary of the October 7 massacre, in which thousands of Hamas terrorists infiltrated Southern Israel, slaughtering over 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 250 hostage. It was the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. Since then, we’ve witnessed several fronts of war against Israel, a terrifying rise in global antisemitism, and an effort to isolate Israel diplomatically, culturally, and economically, and much more. To reflect on some of the major events and the cultural currents that have swept the world since October 7, 2023, Dan sat down with Sam Harris for a conversation being released as a simulcast both on Call me Back as well as Sam’s podcast, Making Sense. Sam is a philosopher, neuroscientist, author, and public intellectual. He focuses on topics of rationality, religion, politics, and ethics, and has been a fierce critic of the rise in radical, fundamentalist islam. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe here to For Heaven’s Sake: lnk.to/ZtetEFWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastArk Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgToday’s Episode: This year’s Yom Kippur landed right on our production schedule, so we did not tape a Call me Back episode. It’s a good opportunity to share with you the most recent episode of For Heaven’s Sake, a collaboration of Ark Media with our partners at the Shalom Hartman Institute -  Yossi Klein Halevi and Donniel Hartmen. Just before Yom Kippur, on Wednesday, our team at Ark Media published an episode of For Heaven’s Sake, which is an Ark Media podcast, co-hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi of the Shalom Hartman Institute. In this episode, titled “A New Era?”, Donniel and Yossi reflected on President Trump’s plan for the end of the Gaza War. We found the episode particularly insightful and emblematic of the types of profound conversations Donniel and Yossi typically have on For Heaven’s Sake, so we decided to release it on the Call me Back feed as well.  

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: President Trump met with Netanyahu in the White House on Monday to discuss the plan to end the Gaza war. The proposal includes the immediate and unconditional return of all remaining hostages and the complete demilitarization of the strip. Nadav Eyal joins Dan to evaluate the feasibility of the plan, whether Netanyahu will be able to sell it to his government, and what we can realistically expect to see next.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Monday, September 29, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu are set to meet at the White House. Because of this potentially game-changing meeting, we decided to postpone our usual Monday episode by a day so that we can delve into all that’s revealed (or not) tomorrow in Washington D.C. Instead we’re releasing a brief news-update to keep listeners up-to-date on the Israel-related news that’s unfolded over the past few days. Be sure to catch the next Call me Back episode, which we’ll tape shortly after Monday’s White House meeting. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Over the past few days, France, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, and several other countries formally recognized a Palestinian State at the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The practical implications of this “diplomatic wave” are yet to be seen, but the Israeli Government is taking the move seriously, as many interpret Palestinian recognition as a reward for Hamas’ terrorism. Meanwhile, the IDF continues its operations in Gaza City. To discuss the implications of recognizing Palestinian statehood and the evolving situation in Gaza, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/giftsWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: The United Nations is set to recognize a Palestinian state on Monday. But what does that actually mean? What kind of legal power will this recognition hold? And will Hamas see it as a victory, cementing Oct. 7 as Palestinian independence day? Tal Becker, vice president of Hartman Institute in Jerusalem and a multi-decade veteran of Israeli peace process teams, joins Dan to discuss the dangers of performative diplomacy and the moral hazard of an unconditional recognition of Palestinian statehood. Tal was previously a diplomatic advisor to numerous Israeli governments, and a legal advisor to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and to the IDF. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support American Friends of Israel Navy SEALS: AFINS.us/warriorcareSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Monday night, the IDF began its highly anticipated incursion into Gaza City, which has been largely untouched by Israel until recent days. The IDF announced that 40% of Gaza City’s roughly one million people have already evacuated. Meanwhile, the Hostages and Missing Families Forum declared a “state of emergency” amid fears that Israel’s invasion of Gaza City jeopardizes the remaining 48 hostages. On today’s episode, we are joined by Ark Media Contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to discuss this major development. What does the IDF’s incursion into Gaza City mean for the future of the war, the fate of the hostages, and Israel’s global standing?(00:00) Introduction(04:44) American Friends of Israel Navy Seals(07:11) What are Israel’s operational goals?(12:39) What is the plan?(15:45) Why the operation is so controversial(21:08) Israeli public opinion and the chances for a deal(30:23) Has the Israeli government given up on the hostages?(32:09) Fallout from the Doha operation(39:16) Israel’s standing in the region(43:50) What happens now?CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology: ats.org/callmebackSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.orgTo contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: The High Holidays are approaching. Rosh HaShana begins a week from today, on Monday, September 22, and Yom Kippur follows soon after. To do some Jewish learning in preparation for these holidays, Dan welcomed back Rachel Goldberg-Polin, who helped Call me Back listeners navigate Pesach and Sukkot this past year. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer