Call The Damn Leads

Episode 128 is a special Christmas Day solo episode where Drewbie steps away from interviews and tactics to deliver a heartfelt message directly to the Call the Damn Leads community. Recorded for Christmas morning 2025, this episode is all about gratitude, reflection, and appreciation for the listeners, readers, and supporters who make the Call the Damn Leads movement possible. Drewbie shares what this year has meant to him and his family, reflects on the growth of the show and the community, and reminds listeners that the real win in sales isn't just revenue—it's the life you're building for yourself and the people you love. To top it off, Drewbie gives listeners a Christmas-only gift as a thank-you for showing up—even on a holiday. This episode isn't about calling leads today. It's about remembering why you do it every other day of the year.     Episode Highlights A personal Christmas message from Drewbie to the Call the Damn Leads community Gratitude for listeners, readers, and supporters of the movement Reflecting on an incredible year of podcast growth and impact Celebrating thousands of copies sold of Call the Damn Leads Why the listener is the real "greatest gift" of the year A reminder that sales is a vehicle to a better life—not the destination Honoring all holidays and traditions, not just Christmas The importance of pausing to appreciate progress A Christmas-only giveaway for loyal listeners Why consistency—even in personal growth—creates better holidays year after year Setting the tone for an even bigger 2026 When not to call the damn leads (today only!)     Special Christmas Gift 🎄 🎁 FREE Call the Damn Leads T-Shirt Drewbie's Christmas gift to you for being a loyal listener. How it works: Use code: CHRISTMASTEE Valid ONLY on Christmas Day Expires at midnight Christmas night You pay shipping — the shirt is on Drewbie 👉 Grab yours at: https://callthedamnleads.com     Key Takeaways 1. Gratitude matters. Success feels different when you take time to acknowledge the people who helped you get there. 2. Sales is a tool—not the goal. The real reward is the life you're creating for your family. 3. Consistency compounds. Listening, learning, and showing up—even on holidays—adds up. 4. Community creates momentum. Movements don't grow alone—they grow together. 5. Reflection fuels growth. Pausing to appreciate progress makes future wins even bigger. 6. Holidays are about people, not pipelines. Today is for family. Tomorrow, we're back to work. 7. You're never "just a listener." You're part of the Call the Damn Leads movement.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads     Follow Drewbie 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with the down-to-earth and wildly authentic Jody Durand — a lifelong farmer turned sales pro and author of Country Boy Soul. From growing up on "Walton Mountain" to literally sitting next to Zig Ziglar on his very first flight (without even realizing it), Jody's story is a masterclass in grit, humility, and the power of influence. We talk about how a life of hard work on the farm shaped his sales approach, why saying no is one of the most powerful words in sales, and how old-school relationship building still wins in a high-tech world. Jody's got decades of experience in agriculture sales and business, and he brings raw honesty and humor to every story. If you've ever doubted your ability to sell, this conversation will remind you that true sales success comes from caring deeply, staying curious, and being willing to get your hands dirty — figuratively and literally.     Episode Highlights 🚜 From Farm Life to Sales Life: How Jody's roots in agriculture taught him the value of consistency, preparation, and patience — lessons every sales pro can learn from. ✈️ The Day He Met Zig Ziglar: A once-in-a-lifetime meeting that planted the seeds of a career he didn't even know he'd have. 💥 The Power of Hitting Rock Bottom: Losing everything taught Jody the drive and discipline to sell with purpose and passion. 🧠 Influence Over Sales: Why the best salespeople don't "sell" — they influence by connecting and caring. 🙌 The "No" That Opens Doors: How to reframe rejection as a tool for growth instead of a setback. 💡 Sales Lessons from the Barnyard: Jody's analogy between farming and selling — preparing, planting, nurturing, and harvesting. 🧩 End-User Thinking: Why great salespeople start with the end result in mind and build backward from the customer's perspective. ❤️ Vulnerability Sells: How being open and authentic creates deeper trust and longer-lasting relationships.     Key Takeaways Influence Beats Information: Sales isn't about talking the most — it's about asking the right questions and listening with intent. Rejection is a Gift: A "no" is not the end — it's an opportunity to understand your customer better and get closer to "yes." You Don't Need Fancy Words: If a sixth grader can't understand your pitch, you're overcomplicating it. Keep your message clear, relatable, and direct. Sales is Farming: Plant seeds (relationships), water them consistently (follow up), and be patient — your harvest will come. Hard Work Never Goes Out of Style: No shortcut beats good old-fashioned effort, consistency, and genuine care for the people you serve. Build Trust by Being Real: People buy from people — especially those who are honest about their flaws and open about their journey. Focus on the End User: Think like the person or product you're helping. When you understand what they truly need, your pitch becomes effortless.     How to Connect with Jody Durand 💻 LinkedIn : Jody Durand 📘 Book: Country Boy Soul available on Amazon and Audible ▶️ YouTube: Country Boy Soul Channel 💬 "If you want to connect, hit me up on social or throw up the bat signal — I'll find you."     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

In this epic episode of Call The Damn Leads, Drewbie Wilson sits down with creative powerhouse Paul Pape, the self-proclaimed "Santa for Nerds," to talk about how gaming principles can transform your business, boost creativity, and make entrepreneurship actually fun. Paul spent two decades designing custom collectibles for clients like Disney, Universal, and Nickelodeon before founding Gamify Business, a coaching platform that helps creatives and entrepreneurs build stronger, more successful businesses—by turning their real-world goals into a live-action role-playing adventure. From character sheets to "boss fights," Paul breaks down how you can translate gaming strategy into business mastery. Whether you're a lifelong gamer or a sales pro looking to bring more creativity and energy into your process, this episode is packed with practical magic.     🔥 Episode Highlights 🎮 Santa for Nerds: How Paul built a 20-year career creating custom collectibles for major brands and fans around the world. ⚔️ Gamify Your Business: The origin story of "Dungeons & Dragons: Business Edition" and how it helps creatives understand sales and entrepreneurship. 🧙‍♂️ Build Your Character Sheet: How to identify your strengths and weaknesses to create a balanced "party" (aka your business team). 💡 Sell Yourself, Not Your Stuff: Why storytelling and personal branding will always beat a hard sales pitch. 🪄 Speak the Language: How Paul translates complex business terms like ROI and CTA into gaming analogies that actually make sense for creatives. 👥 Find Your Party: Why you shouldn't try to "solo" your business journey—and how to find teammates who fill your gaps. 🧩 Defeat Imposter Syndrome: Turning weaknesses into opportunities through playful, data-driven self-awareness. 💰 Speedrun Your Success: How to turn passion into profit by focusing on your "seed"—the unique twist that sets you apart. 🚀 Laser Focus for Creatives: Why it's better to be a specialist sniper than a scattershot marketer when building your brand. 📘 Free Resource: Grab the first two chapters of The Creative Player's Handbook to Business at GamifyBusiness.com.     💡 Key Takeaways 1. Creatives Are Entrepreneurs Whether you design art, write code, or sell products, creativity is the engine of innovation—and you can build a business that reflects that. 2. Sell the Story, Not the Stuff People don't buy products; they buy people. When you tell your story authentically, you make it easy for customers to connect and commit. 3. Build Your "Party" Wisely You don't need to be great at everything. Identify your weak spots and recruit others whose strengths complement yours. 4. Translate Business into Play If words like ROI and KPI make your eyes glaze over, reframe them in language that fits you. Gamifying the process keeps you engaged and consistent. 5. Find Your Unique "Seed" Your "seed" is the one thing that makes your creative work different from everyone else's. Build your brand around that and success follows. 6. Focus Like a Sniper, Not a Shotgun Don't try to appeal to everyone. Target your ideal customers with precision and consistency—they're the ones who will become your raving fans. 7. Speedrun the Process—But Follow the Map Overnight success is a myth, but with strategy, consistency, and the right party members, you can level up faster than you think.     💬 Connect with Paul Pape 🌐 Website: gamifybusiness.com 🎁 Free Download: The Creative Player's Handbook to Business — First two chapters free when you sign up on the site. 🎨 Other Projects: paulpapedesigns.com 📺 YouTube: Paul Pape Designs     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, Drewbie Wilson sits down with Jason VanDevere, fourth-generation car dealer turned purpose-driven entrepreneur, to talk about stepping away from comfort, chasing passion, and the reality of building something that truly lights you up. From hilarious car lot stories (including a test drive that sounded like a shootout!) to a powerful four-step framework for success, Jason shares how he transitioned from his family's auto empire into creating Goal Crazy, a brand built on helping others design dream-driven lives. This one's packed with inspiration, real talk, and tactical steps for anyone looking to reinvent themselves, grow their business, and call their damn leads.     🔥 Episode Highlights From Balloons to Boom: Jason's wildest sales story — how a test drive full of exploding balloons turned into a closed deal. Breaking Family Expectations: Why Jason walked away from a secure legacy in the car business to chase something more meaningful. The Power of Sales Confidence: How mastering the art of selling became the foundation for every business venture he started afterward. The Four-Step Framework for Growth: Jason breaks down his proven process for success — Seek Expert Counsel, Set a 90-Day Goal, Execute Relentlessly, and Reflect Intentionally. The Real Meaning of "Call the Damn Leads": Why persistence, not perfection, builds your dreams. Building Without a Budget: How to create meaningful collaborations with influencers and communities without spending a dime. Start Small, Win Big: Why your first audience doesn't have to be huge to make a big impact. Purpose Over Pressure: Jason's mindset on how a powerful dream can help you overcome fear, rejection, and imposter syndrome. Free Resource: How to access Jason's free "Find Your Dream" course that's helped over 40,000 people discover their purpose.     💡 Key Takeaways 1. Sales is the Foundation for Every Dream If you can sell, you can do anything. The ability to communicate, persuade, and solve problems is the most transferable skill in life and business. 2. Seek Expert Counsel Find someone who's already done what you want to do and ask how they did it. Mentorship and modeling shorten the distance between where you are and where you want to be. 3. Set a Focused 90-Day Goal Clarity creates momentum. Identify one goal that, if accomplished, makes everything else easier or unnecessary — and commit to it. 4. Execute and Reflect Action beats ideas every day of the week. But reflection turns activity into growth. Ask yourself regularly: What's working? What's not? What do I need to change? 5. Build Relationships, Not Just Revenue When you reach out to influencers or potential partners, lead with value. Serve their audience first — that's how you earn collaboration, credibility, and trust. 6. Start Small, Stay Consistent Don't wait for perfection. Whether you're pitching podcasts or running workshops, start small, make mistakes, learn, and grow from every opportunity. 7. Dream Bigger Than Your Fear When your vision is clear and your "why" burns bright, rejection and setbacks lose their power. A big enough dream makes every challenge worth facing.     💬 Connect with Jason VanDevere Website: goalcrazy.com Free Course: goalcrazy.com/course — Find your dream and reignite your drive Book: Dream Driven – Available now on Amazon     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

In this powerhouse episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with Marc Pickren, a turnaround CEO who has led massive sales organizations through chaos, COVID, and corporate comebacks. Marc has managed over 450 sales reps and taken companies that were bleeding cash — including one burning $400,000 a month — and turned them into multi-million-dollar profit machines. How? Through leadership, accountability, and understanding that productivity isn't about working harder — it's about working intentionally. From dealing with the remote-work crisis during the pandemic to redefining what productivity looks like in a distracted, AI-driven world, Marc brings an unfiltered perspective on what it takes to rebuild trust, performance, and profitability in sales teams today. If you lead a team, work in sales, or just want to learn how to transform chaos into clarity, this one's a masterclass.     🔥 Episode Highlights 💰 From $42 Million in Losses to 4.9 Million in Profit Marc shares how he took a company that had torched over $42 million in invested capital and was losing half its customers every year — and turned it into a profitable, thriving organization. His secret? A relentless focus on accountability, measurable productivity, and repurposing talent instead of wasting it. 📞 The 6.7-Hour Rule for Sales Success Through deep analysis, Marc's team discovered that 6.7 hours of productive activity per day was the magic number for reps to hit and exceed their goals. By structuring each salesperson's day around high-value activity, performance skyrocketed — proving that structure creates freedom. 🧩 The Power of Smart Redeployment When faced with layoffs, Marc didn't just cut people — he repurposed talent. Underperforming sales reps who understood customer value were moved into customer success roles, transforming potential losses into stronger retention and better client relationships. ⚙️ Accountability vs. Micromanagement Many leaders fear being "too controlling," but Marc breaks down the difference between accountability and micromanagement. Accountability is clarity. It's measurable. And it's what separates high-performing teams from those drowning in mediocrity. 💥 Life in the AI Super System Marc explains how we've evolved from the internet age to the mobile age — and now, to the AI age. He warns that we're all being trained as "nodes on the machine," distracted hundreds of times a day by digital noise. His solution? Get intentional. Reclaim your focus. Use AI to enhance human productivity, not replace it. 🧠 How to Compete in the Age of AI AI isn't coming for your job — complacency is. Marc shares insights from The End of Average, explaining that those who cooperate with AI will thrive, while those who compete with it will get left behind. Your new competitive edge is problem-solving, curiosity, and adaptability. 🔗 Build the Bridge Between Sales and Product Marc reveals one of the biggest untapped advantages in sales: feedback loops. Sales and marketing are on the frontlines with real customer insights — and when they feed that back into product development, innovation explodes. If you're not sharing what your customers are saying, your company's building in the dark.     💡 Key Takeaways Accountability drives results — you can't improve what you don't measure. Reallocate talent before you replace it. Skills can evolve with the right coaching. Structure your day around productivity, not busyness. AI is a tool, not a threat. Learn to work with it, not against it. Human connection still wins. Authenticity, empathy, and transparency are irreplaceable. Feedback is fuel. Great companies listen to their salespeople.     💬 How to Connect with Marc Pickren 💼 LinkedIn: Marc Pickren 🌐 Website: https://marcpickren.com/ Check out over 100 short, high-value clips on sales, leadership, and AI strategy. 💬 Message him directly: Marc's always open to questions — no pitch, just value. 🎥 Keep an eye out for his upcoming Sales Vibe Reel showcasing the high-energy environment that built his legendary sales culture.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with Jennifer Gligoric, founder of the Super Clinic Project, to talk about ethical sales, overcoming imposter syndrome, and how AI is reshaping the way we connect and sell. From being homeless as a teenager to becoming a respected consultant for healthcare professionals, Jennifer's story is a masterclass in resilience, purpose, and people-first selling. She shares her personal evolution in sales — from early days working in her mother's staffing firm, to high-pressure roles in the dating industry, and finally finding her mission helping entrepreneurs and doctors ethically scale their businesses. If you've ever questioned whether sales can be done with both heart and hustle, this episode is for you.     🔥 Episode Highlights 💼 From Homeless Teen to Sales Pro Jennifer opens up about how she went from being homeless to building a successful career in sales — proving that sales is one of the most powerful paths to personal freedom. Her story shows how the right mindset, discipline, and belief in what you sell can change everything. ❤️ The Power of Belief in What You Sell Jennifer shares how working for a dating company taught her one of the hardest lessons in sales: when you stop believing in what you sell, you stop closing deals. Authenticity isn't just a nice-to-have — it's the heartbeat of long-term success. 🧭 Ethical Entrepreneurship & Divine Purpose Jennifer emphasizes aligning your work with your purpose. If what you sell doesn't align with your core values or your view of doing good in the world, it's time to pivot. Sales should serve both your client and your conscience. 🧠 Imposter Syndrome in High-Achievers Even the most successful people — doctors, lawyers, business owners — battle feelings of "not being enough." Jennifer explains how to reframe imposter syndrome as a sign that you're growing, not failing. 🤖 How AI Can Supercharge Your Sales Process Jennifer and I dive into the tools that are changing the game for sales pros and business owners. From AI-generated follow-up sequences to sales presentation tools, she breaks down how she's using 12 different AI systems to maximize productivity without losing authenticity. 📈 Four Core Areas Every Salesperson Should Master Jennifer lays out four fundamentals that every salesperson and entrepreneur should live by: Learn the Script – Know your framework and don't skip the basics. Talk Less, Listen More – True connection comes from curiosity. Be a Lifelong Learner – Always sharpen your skills. Follow Up Like Crazy – The fortune's still in the follow-up. 🎥 Building Trust with Long-Form Content Jennifer breaks down why long-form content is king — especially video. Whether it's answering objections, sharing testimonials, or offering real advice with no strings attached, transparency builds authority and converts better than pushy sales tactics ever will.   💡 Key Takeaways You can sell anything if you truly believe in it — and you'll lose every sale the second you stop. Ethics and empathy are your biggest competitive advantages in a world flooded with automation. AI isn't here to replace you — it's here to make you more human in your sales process. Lifelong learning keeps you relevant and valuable, no matter how much the marketplace evolves. Give away real value freely — the clients who need you will always come back for more.   💬 How to Connect with Jennifer Gligoric 🌐 Website: https://superclinicproject.com 📅 Book a Free 15-Minute Challenge Call: Click Jennifer's photo on the site to bring your biggest sales or business challenge — no sales pitch, just real help. 📧 Email: (Available through her site contact form)     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

"You don't have to shove people into your product. You just have to listen, personalize, and solve their real problem." – Darren Fields   🚀 Episode Overview In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with Daren Fields, a veteran sales strategist, keynote speaker, and author of Apex 8, to talk about how AI is changing the sales landscape forever. With four decades of sales experience, Daren's seen it all — from multimillion-dollar enterprise deals to scrappy startup wins. But what sets him apart is his belief that the best salespeople are listeners first and problem solvers second. We dive deep into how to combine AI tools, trust-based discovery, and genuine transparency to win deals faster, serve clients better, and build lifelong relationships that go way beyond the sale. If you're a sales pro, team leader, or entrepreneur trying to navigate this new AI-driven marketplace — this one's a masterclass.     🔑 Episode Highlights The "Log Optimizer" Story: How Daren saved a lost deal from the jaws of defeat by listening to what the client really wanted and building a creative solution overnight. The Future of Discovery: Why traditional "what keeps you up at night?" questions are dead — and how to use AI to uncover your client's biggest pain points before the first call. Hyper-Personalization Wins: How leveraging tools like Gamma, Canva, and ChatGPT lets you design custom, validated solutions in minutes, not months. Answer Engine Optimization (AEO): Forget SEO — Daren breaks down how AI is reshaping how buyers find, trust, and choose you online. Radical Transparency: Why honesty and vulnerability will win more business in the AI era than old-school persuasion ever could. Orbit Thinking: Stop obsessing over quotas and start building your "sales orbit" — a network of collaborators, partners, and clients who lift each other up. AI for Leadership Training: How top sales pros can use AI to teach and train others by systemizing their knowledge.   💥 Key Takeaways Sales is About Solving, Not Selling: The magic happens when you ask the right questions and truly listen to what the client needs — not just what you want to sell. AI Gives You Superpowers: Use it to research, create, present, and personalize — but never forget that empathy and human connection close the deal. Transparency Builds Trust: Be honest about what you can and can't do. Refer when needed. Your integrity will build long-term value and referral business. Stop Thinking in Funnels — Start Thinking in Orbits: Success in sales today is about collaboration and ecosystems, not isolation and competition. Master the Long Game: Play for reputation and relationships, not just revenue. AI will expose anyone faking it — authenticity wins.   💡 How to Connect with Daren Fields 📘 Get Daren's book: apex8book.com 💼 Visit his advisory site: apex8advisory.com 💌 Email him directly: daren@darenfields.com (Mention Call The Damn Leads for a free ebook copy!) 🎤 Follow Daren on LinkedIn for more sales and leadership insights.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

Too many salespeople try to fit into someone else's mold—and end up wondering why their results don't measure up. In this episode, I sit down with Justine Beauregard, sales coach, trainer, and founder of Sell with Justine, to talk about breaking free from scripts, discovering your unique selling style, and turning objections into effortless conversations. From her first big "aha moment" on a fundraising call at age 20, Justine realized that sales isn't about fitting into a box—it's about leaning into who you are and serving the buyer in a way that feels natural. Since then, she's helped countless sales pros and entrepreneurs close more deals by simplifying sales into repeatable frameworks and building confidence around authentic connection. If you've ever felt stuck behind a script or struggled with endless objections, this episode will help you break through and start selling on your terms.     🔥 Episode Highlights The fundraising call that changed everything: How Justine learned to ditch the script and start closing authentically. The Peter Principle in sales: Why top producers don't always make the best sales leaders—and what to do instead. Sales & marketing must get married: The simple way to eliminate objections before they even hit the call. Misconceptions about sales: Why it doesn't have to take forever to build rapport or close a big deal. Everyone has their own sales style: How to discover yours and stop trying to copy someone else's playbook. Handling objections with ease: The "big three" (money, time, belief) and how to reframe them into value-based conversations. Follow-up that works: How to ditch the "just checking in" messages and replace them with authentic, value-driven outreach.     💡 Key Takeaways Sales works best when you sell like you. Stop trying to be the loudest rep in the room. Lean into your own strengths. Frameworks create freedom. Breaking your process down into repeatable steps gives you confidence and consistency. Sales and marketing aren't rivals. Sharing objections and insights across teams can make everyone more effective. Objections aren't roadblocks. Often they're just comments. Validate, pause, and redirect the conversation to value. Follow-up is advocacy. Reaching back out isn't desperate—it's ensuring prospects get the best solution. Practice > theory. Reading books and listening to podcasts is great, but real growth comes from doing the work. Personalization wins. Simple pattern interrupts in follow-up messages can separate you from every other salesperson.     🔗 How to Connect with Justine Beauregard 🌐 Website: https://justinebeauregard.com/ 🎥 Free Training Series: standoutseries.com 📱 LinkedIn : https://linkedin.com/in/justinejbeauregard/     📣 Call to Action This conversation is packed with gems—whether you're brand new to sales or a seasoned closer, Justine's approach will help you reframe objections, connect authentically, and sell more confidently. If you found value, share this episode on social media, tag us, and maybe even send it to that one person you know who needs to hear it. (Remember: you don't have to tell them they suck at sales—just send them the link. 😉) And if you've got a crazy or inspiring sales story of your own, head over to callthedamnleads.com/podcast and pitch it. We'd love to have you on.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

In this special Thanksgiving 2025 episode, Drewbie steps behind the mic solo to share a heartfelt message of gratitude with the entire Call The Damn Leads community. With tens of thousands of listeners, thousands of store supporters, and hundreds of readers grabbing his books every month, Drewbie reflects on the growth of the movement, the impact of embracing the CTDL mindset, and the personal blessings that sales has provided for his family. This is an episode filled with appreciation, reflection, and a powerful reminder of how gratitude and consistency are the keys to winning—not just in sales, but in life. Whether you're spending Thanksgiving with family, friends, or catching a quiet moment to yourself, this uplifting message will inspire you to slow down, celebrate the present, and gear up for the biggest buying season of the year.     Episode Highlights A heartfelt thank-you to the entire CTDL community Why gratitude has been one of the most transformational tools in Drewbie's life How small moments of kindness from others can have massive impact The Thanksgiving origin story & the parallel to sales (connection + understanding) Encouragement to reach out and thank someone today—no matter how small the gesture The reminder that even mentors need mentors A peek behind the curtain into how much this movement means to Drewbie and his family Why Thanksgiving is the perfect time to regroup before the biggest buying season of the year A lighthearted nod to insurance professionals preparing for the annual "fried turkey disasters" Why embracing gratitude makes you a better sales professional The mindset difference between comfort and commitment A challenge to use the holiday season as a competitive advantage Announcing the Black Friday – Cyber Monday CTDL Store Sale (40% Off Select Items!) Encouragement to share the show, join the movement, and become a guest The reminder you always need: Relax today… and call the damn leads tomorrow.     Key Takeaways 1. Gratitude fuels growth—personally and professionally. Drewbie shares how embracing gratitude has shaped his life, his sales career, and his mindset. 2. People forget… so say the words. Take time today to tell someone how thankful you are for them. Don't assume they know. 3. Enjoy the holiday. Sales will be there tomorrow. Today is for family, food, and reflection. 4. The biggest buying season of the year starts now. Thanksgiving leads straight into Black Friday and Christmas—now is the time to prepare. 5. Success comes from using time others waste. Most people shut down through the holidays. You don't. That's why you're here. 6. Small steps now = massive momentum in 2026. Every action taken between Thanksgiving and New Year gives you a head start. 7. Your community matters. Whether you buy a book, share an episode, rock some CTDL swag, or simply listen—you're part of the movement. 8. Rest with intention. Grind with purpose. Take today to fill your cup so you can pour into your goals tomorrow.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

What does it take to build an eight-figure business, lead with integrity, and still bring more energy at 62 than most 30-year-olds? In this episode, I sit down with Larry G. Dix II—entrepreneur, keynote speaker, author, and lifelong sales pro—to unpack the habits, mindset, and principles that have guided him through decades of wins and losses in the sales game. Larry shares his first sales call (and the punch in the nose that came with it), the hard lessons of entrepreneurship, and why he believes customer service—not shortcuts—is the future of business. He also breaks down his "Four D's of Success," why discipline is the true driver of motivation, and how his 5 a.m. routine keeps him sharper than ever. If you're in sales, leadership, or just trying to level up your discipline and consistency, this episode is a masterclass in longevity, resilience, and doing what's right.     🔥 Episode Highlights The first big lesson in sales: why knowing your product inside and out can turn "your price is too high" into a closed deal. Old school meets new school: what Larry learned from Zig Ziglar tapes and how it applies in today's AI-driven marketplace. Do What's Right: how Larry built a company culture rooted in urgency, integrity, and customer service. The power of morning routines: Larry's disciplined 5 a.m. ritual that fuels his energy, focus, and leadership every single day. Born or Made?: why hard work, not Lamborghinis and shortcuts, is the real story behind entrepreneurial success. Motivation vs. Discipline: why consistency beats hype every time—and how discipline creates motivation. Sales as the great equalizer: why human interaction, attention to detail, and genuine relationships will always outperform shortcuts and AI.   💡 Key Takeaways Know your product better than anyone else. Confidence and credibility come from preparation. Sales isn't new, but it is evolving. Stay sharp and keep learning—or get left behind. Customer service is the true differentiator. People crave human connection and urgency, not excuses. Discipline fuels success. From waking up early to honoring commitments, discipline creates momentum and motivation. Entrepreneurship isn't glamorous. Behind every "overnight success" are years of stress, sacrifice, and hard decisions. There are no shortcuts. Building wealth is about long-term strategy, not get-rich-quick plays. Culture starts with leadership. The way you show up sets the standard for your entire team. Sales solves problems. When in doubt? Pick up the phone and call the damn leads.   🔗 How to Connect with Larry G. Dix II 📖 Book: Born or Made: Fear is a Liar, Defeat is Overrated (C-Suite Bestseller) 🎙️ Podcast: Born or Made Podcast - https://pod.link/1751356472 🌐 Website: https://www.larrygdix.com/     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

What happens when one small automation error wipes out 20,000 leads overnight? Most people would quit. But this week's guest, Ivan Mana, turned that nightmare scenario into fuel for building a smarter, more sustainable online marketing business. Ivan shares how he went from working at a bank to becoming a ClickBank Platinum Award-winning affiliate marketer, and how his journey taught him that the real key to success isn't just running ads—it's about building strong systems, leveraging free channels, and creating funnels that actually maximize every opportunity. If you've ever struggled with email lists, traffic, or just trying to turn clicks into cash, this episode will give you a roadmap to doing it right.     🔥 Episode Highlights The day Ivan lost 80% of his email list – and the lessons he learned about focusing on engaged leads. From skeptic to success – the three "nudges" that finally pulled him into affiliate marketing. The truth about paid ads – why creativity, copywriting, and psychology matter just as much as the tech. Why sustainable products win long-term – the power of SaaS tools and recurring revenue streams. The real ROI of time – how Ivan shifted from chasing quick wins to building lasting systems. Funnels explained – lead magnets, upsells, downsells, bump offers, and why you're leaving money on the table without them. Free traffic strategies – why posting consistently on social media, YouTube, and blogs is more effective than most paid ads. The mindset shift – why selling isn't "pushy" when you're offering real solutions.     💡 Key Takeaways A smaller, engaged list will always beat a giant, unresponsive one. Sustainable products (like SaaS tools) create long-term recurring revenue. Paid ads are a last resort—start with free content, guest posts, and organic reach. Funnels with upsells and downsells dramatically increase average order value. ROI isn't just money—it's the return on your time, energy, and focus. Don't be afraid to sell—if your product solves a problem, sharing it helps people. Consistency wins: one post a day on your platform of choice can snowball into massive reach.     🔗 How to Connect with Ivan Mana 📺 YouTube: Ivan Mana – 700+ free videos on affiliate and online marketing strategies. 🌐 Website: IvanMana.com – grab Ivan's free 7-Day Marketing Starter Plan.     📣 Call to Action If you're tired of spinning your wheels with ads, losing leads, or struggling to figure out funnels, this episode is for you. Ivan breaks it down step by step—what actually works, what doesn't, and how to build a business that keeps paying long after the first click. Know someone who's trying to figure out online marketing but keeps making mistakes? Share this episode with them—it might just save them thousands of dollars and years of frustration. And if you've got a wild sales or marketing story of your own, I'd love to feature you. Pitch your story at callthedamnleads.com/podcast.     📣 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson, a sales vet with 20+ years in the game, brings you humor, real-world stories, and powerful strategies to help you excel in your sales career. Expect a wild mix of: Real Sales Stories: Tales that entertain and inspire Proven Tactics: Practical tips for boosting your sales game Humor and Energy: Fun takes on the ups and downs of sales life Expert Advice: Learn from seasoned pros across different fields Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or just looking to grow your business skills, don't miss out on these invaluable lessons and entertaining stories. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story at 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

Sales isn't just about scripts and closing techniques—it's about influence, trust, and understanding motivation on the deepest level. Who better to learn that from than spies and hostage negotiators? In this episode, I sit down with Jeremy Hurewitz, journalist-turned-corporate intelligence professional, speaker, and author of Sell Like a Spy. Jeremy has spent years learning from ex-CIA officers, FBI negotiators, and intelligence experts—then translating those lessons into the sales world. We dig into how spies use rapport, empathy, and vulnerability to turn the coldest conversations into cooperative relationships, and how you can use the same methods in sales to build trust, disarm resistance, and close deals with confidence.     🔥 Episode Highlights The "sale that almost was" after 9/11 – how a near handshake deal between the CIA and Taliban leadership could have changed history. Why spies are the best salespeople – convincing someone to commit treason is the ultimate close. Radical empathy in action – learning to see the human side, even in people you don't like or agree with. Mirroring done right – using verbal and physical mirroring to prove you're truly listening and aligned. The power of vulnerability – why sharing small, human details can bridge the intimacy gap and spark deeper trust. Motivation as the key to influence – uncovering what people really want beneath the surface (status, security, recognition, legacy). Elicitation vs. interrogation – subtle ways to get prospects to reveal valuable insights without grilling them. Negotiation lessons from hostage crises – how to separate instrumental goals, emotional goals, and high-risk situations—and know when to walk away. Social recon for sales pros – using LinkedIn and social media as intelligence tools to personalize every conversation.     💡 Key Takeaways Every objection hides motivation. A "no" often points to the real reason someone may need your help. Empathy wins in tough conversations. Seek common ground, even with prospects who resist you. Small signals build trust. Mirroring words, tone, and posture proves you're tuned in. Show humanity, not perfection. A little vulnerability makes you relatable and opens doors. Do your recon. Sales professionals have access to massive intelligence via social media—use it wisely. Use elicitation. Frame statements that invite prospects to volunteer details instead of interrogating them. Not every negotiation is worth it. Some prospects or deals are "high risk"—know when to walk away. Sales isn't zero-sum. The best outcomes leave both sides feeling like they've won.   🔗 How to Connect with Jeremy Hurewitz 📖 Book: Sell Like a Spy – Available in print, e-book, and audiobook (read by Jeremy himself). 🌐 Website: challengerhillconsulting.com (Company) – speaking, training, and articles. 💼 LinkedIn: Jeremy Hurewitz     📣 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson, a sales vet with 20+ years in the game, brings you humor, real-world stories, and powerful strategies to help you excel in your sales career. Expect a wild mix of: Real Sales Stories: Tales that entertain and inspire Proven Tactics: Practical tips for boosting your sales game Humor and Energy: Fun takes on the ups and downs of sales life Expert Advice: Learn from seasoned pros across different fields Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or just looking to grow your business skills, don't miss out on these invaluable lessons and entertaining stories. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story at 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

Sales and marketing are changing fast, and if you're still out there just shouting features and discounts, you're getting drowned out in the noise. In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with Reid Holmes, veteran creative director, author of Appreciated Branding, and brand strategist who's spent 30+ years helping companies earn loyalty by delivering real value and unexpected delight. We dig into why word-of-mouth still beats advertising, how to build brands people are proud to share, and why the best sales conversations are about helping people transform—not just closing deals. If you've ever wondered how to stand out in a sea of "me-too" competitors, this conversation is for you.     🔥 Episode Highlights Disarming objections the smart way – Reid shares a killer story about flipping a sales conversation by saying "I'm not sure you're the right client for us either." Excuses are buying signals – Why objections like "now's not a good time" are actually proof that your product is needed more than ever. From Pain Island to Happy Island – How to sell the transformation your product creates, not the "boat" that gets them there. The Appreciated Branding mindset – Why it's not about pushing more ads but about earning gratitude through proactive problem-solving. Costco & cultural currency – The retail giant proves that when you delight customers, they become your marketing team. Referrals are everything – How keeping current customers entertained and educated creates raving fans who send you more business. The plateau of indifference – Why most brands get lost in crowded markets and how "unexpected delight" pulls you above the noise. Winter-learns, not win-or-learns – Reid's approach to small pilot programs that test ideas cheaply but can scale huge.     💡 Key Takeaways Stop selling the boat. Customers don't care about your features—they care about getting from their pain to their desired transformation. Flip the script. When you push back gently on prospects, you position yourself as a trusted advisor, not a desperate salesperson. Word-of-mouth is the most powerful marketing. Your current customer always knows your next customer. Treat them accordingly. Crowded categories demand differentiation. In markets where everyone looks the same, the brand that surprises and delights wins. Attention is earned, not bought. In today's noise-filled world, appreciation is your most valuable currency. Referrals and retention = growth. Don't just chase new business—educate, entertain, and appreciate your current clients so they stay and send others. Marketing has evolved. The interruption model is dead. The future is about solving problems in meaningful, memorable ways.     🔗 How to Connect with Reid Holmes 📖 Book: Appreciated Branding 🌐 Website: ReidHolmes.com – free chapter + resources available 🔗 Linktree: linktr.ee/reidholmes 📱 LinkedIn: Reid Holmes     📣 Call to Action If you're tired of fighting in the "laundry detergent aisle" where every brand looks the same, listen to this episode with Reid Holmes and learn how to build a brand people thank instead of just tolerate. Then share this with someone you know who's doing marketing the wrong way—spamming instead of serving. Help them see there's a better path. And if you've got a crazy sales story of your own, head over to callthedamnleads.com/podcast and let's get you on the show.     📣 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson, a sales vet with 20+ years in the game, brings you humor, real-world stories, and powerful strategies to help you excel in your sales career. Expect a wild mix of: Real Sales Stories: Tales that entertain and inspire Proven Tactics: Practical tips for boosting your sales game Humor and Energy: Fun takes on the ups and downs of sales life Expert Advice: Learn from seasoned pros across different fields Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or just looking to grow your business skills, don't miss out on these invaluable lessons and entertaining stories. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story at 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

From selling cakes in her family bakery as a kid to building a multimillion-dollar beauty business and now running a family office that helps entrepreneurs across multiple industries, Angela Thomas knows what it takes to scale. In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, Angela shares her wildest sales story ever (spoiler: it involves "French pedicures" and one very unusual request), the mindset shift that took her from one-to-one client work to one-to-many programs, and how she now helps entrepreneurs avoid the trap of scaling expenses instead of scaling profits. This conversation is hilarious, insightful, and packed with strategies you can use to scale your business without burning yourself out.     🔥 Episode Highlights Sales from the start – Angela's first exposure to selling came as a child in her family's bakery. The French pedicure fiasco – A sales call that went sideways fast and left Angela with the strangest objection of her career. Credibility through adversity – How she went from proving herself in a small-town beauty studio to training the entire industry across Europe. Scaling lessons learned – Why adding employees can increase costs without creating freedom. Zoom jail – The hard truth about trading time for money, even as a consultant. The holiday hustle – How Angela closed 12 high-ticket clients in just four days by picking up the phone. Subconscious incompetence – The hidden mindset block that stops entrepreneurs from offering scalable solutions. Scaling across industries – How the same value-chain principles work for dentists, real estate agents, magazines, and beyond. Trust over hard selling – Why building relationships beats "Wolf of Wall Street" tactics every time. The Skillionaires Podcast – Angela's upcoming project to share more stories and lessons from scaling entrepreneurs.     💡 Key Takeaways Not all growth is good growth. Adding people doesn't always equal profit — scalable systems and offers do. Detach your income from your time. One-to-many programs and digital courses create leverage and freedom. Your mindset sets the ceiling. If you don't believe scaling is possible in your industry, you'll never try. Trust is the new currency. Customers want relationships and value, not pushy sales tactics. Leverage the value chain. Clear messaging, trust-building, and strong client journeys work across every industry. Even the craziest objections can become stories that build your credibility.     🔗 How to Connect with Angela Thomas 🌐 Website: Angela Success Consulting 🎙️ Podcast: The Skillionaires (launching October) 📱 LinkedIn: Angela Thomas     📣 Call to Action Loved Angela's mix of humor and hard-earned wisdom? Share this episode with someone who needs to rethink their scaling strategy (or just needs a laugh about weird sales calls). Got a wild sales story of your own? Apply to be a guest at callthedamnleads.com/podcast.     📣 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson, a sales vet with 20+ years in the game, brings you humor, real-world stories, and powerful strategies to help you excel in your sales career. Expect a wild mix of: Real Sales Stories: Tales that entertain and inspire Proven Tactics: Practical tips for boosting your sales game Humor and Energy: Fun takes on the ups and downs of sales life Expert Advice: Learn from seasoned pros across different fields Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or just looking to grow your business skills, don't miss out on these invaluable lessons and entertaining stories. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story at 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

The way people search, shop, and buy online has changed forever. Google AI overviews, ChatGPT, and new platforms are taking center stage, and if you're still relying on traditional SEO alone, you're already falling behind. In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with Wes Towers, founder of Uplift 360, to talk about how business owners can adapt to the new digital landscape. Wes shares a client story where a $3K investment in SEO led to a $140K contract after ChatGPT named his client the best in Australia for their service. We dive into website mistakes that cost businesses credibility, the importance of niching down, and why humanizing your brand matters more than ever. Plus, Wes and I unpack the psychology of online reviews and how even a negative review (handled well) can boost your credibility.     🔥 Episode Highlights SEO is evolving fast – Why "Search Everywhere Optimization" is the future, not just Google. From $3K to $140K – A real client case study proving the ROI of smart SEO in today's AI-driven world. The danger of generic AI content – Why copy-pasting from ChatGPT hurts more than it helps. Humanize your brand – Buyers want real stories, real voices, and authenticity they can trust. Niche to win – How narrowing your focus makes you the obvious choice in your market. Less is more – Cutting low-margin offers and simplifying your message can increase profits. Reviews are gold – Why a few 3- and 4-star reviews actually make your business more credible. Handling mistakes with integrity – How owning up to problems can turn losses into long-term wins. Your website is still home base – Social media gets attention, but your site is where you control the message.   💡 Key Takeaways Adapt or fall behind: SEO is no longer just about Google — you need visibility across AI platforms, search engines, and social. Authenticity sells: Cookie-cutter content blends in; your unique voice and story are what set you apart. Reviews build credibility: Don't fear negative feedback — the way you handle it can attract more business than hiding it. Niche down to scale up: Specialization builds authority, attracts your ideal clients, and simplifies sales. Own your message: Your website is the one place you fully control. Make sure it reflects your brand and builds trust. Mistakes can be opportunities: How you respond to problems matters more than the problem itself.   🔗 How to Connect with Wes Towers 🌐 Website: http://uplift360.com.au 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/westowers?utm_source=chatgpt.com     📣 Call to Action If this episode got you thinking about how your business shows up online, share it with a friend who needs to hear it. Got a sales story of your own? Pitch it at callthedamnleads.com/podcast.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

AI is here — but it's not replacing salespeople anytime soon. In fact, if you're smart about how you use it, AI can give you back the most valuable resource in sales: time. In this episode, I sit down with Jonathan "Coach" Kvarfordt, a sales leader and AI strategist at Momentum, to dig into the hype versus the reality of AI in sales. From CRM automation that doubles your selling time to the legal landmines of AI cold-calling, Coach drops serious truth bombs about how to use AI responsibly — without sacrificing the customer experience. If you've ever wondered whether AI is about to take your job, this conversation will set the record straight: your human skills matter more than ever.     🔥 Episode Highlights The AI Dream vs. Reality: Why the "perfect AI that replaces reps" doesn't exist (and isn't coming anytime soon). 3 Levels of AI in Sales: Productivity, amplification, and reinvention — and why you can't skip ahead. AI Voice Agents in Real Estate: Where it's working, and why opt-ins and transparency are non-negotiable. The Klarna Case Study: How cutting human CS reps backfired — and why CX always wins. Legal Compliance 101: Why AI cold-calls without consent could bankrupt your business. AI Is in Its Teenage Years: Sometimes brilliant, sometimes awkward, always unpredictable. The Human Edge: Why rapport, negotiation, and emotional intelligence are your new superpowers. AI & Content Creation: Why lazy prompts kill trust, and how to use AI to amplify your own expertise instead of sounding like a robot.     💡 Key Takeaways AI is a tool, not a replacement. Use it to save time and automate the repetitive stuff, not to avoid real human connection. Trust is the real barrier. Both your customers and your team need confidence in how AI is being used. CX beats cost-cutting. If automation erodes the customer experience, you'll lose in the long run. Your skills are the differentiator. As AI handles discovery and admin, doubling down on negotiation, rapport, and trust-building is where you win. Transparency matters. Don't sneak AI in — be upfront, and customers won't mind.     🔗 How to Connect with Jonathan Kvarfordt 💼 LinkedIn: Jonathan "Coach" Kvarfordt 🌐 AI Training: gtmaicademy.com 🚀 Company: Momentum     📣 Call to Action AI isn't here to replace you — it's here to elevate you. But only if you sharpen the human skills that no algorithm can touch. 👉 If this episode hit home, share it on LinkedIn, tag Coach and me, and pass it along to a friend in sales who's nervous about AI. And if you've got a sales story that needs to be heard, I want you on the show. Head to callthedamnleads.com/podcast and pitch your episode.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads  

Sales pros love to hate on marketing… and marketers love to remind salespeople they don't know everything either. But what happens when someone like Sarah Stahl bridges that gap? You get the kind of results that turn a zero-visibility treehouse resort into a seven-figure revenue machine with 93% occupancy in just one year. Sarah brings 15+ years of marketing experience and breaks down how sales professionals can harness influencer marketing, AI, and social platforms to stand out in crowded markets, build trust faster, and create a consistent pipeline of leads that are already warmed up before the sales call. From the 95–5 rule to why comments beat posts on LinkedIn, Sarah and I dig into practical strategies salespeople can use right now to win more business without burning themselves out.     🔥 Episode Highlights From Startup to $1M+ Revenue: How Sarah scaled a treehouse resort using influencer marketing instead of paid ads. The Power of Storytelling: Why stories sell better than facts — and how one quirky detail (golf carts!) became the resort's brand differentiator. Influencer-Driven Conversions: How influencer trust cuts sales cycles from 20–30 touchpoints down to less than 7. Platform Strategy: Why you shouldn't try to be everywhere — and how to choose the right platform for your audience. LinkedIn Growth Hack: How Sarah used AI to model her content on top-performing posts, tripling her visibility in months. Why Comments Matter More Than Posts: Her secret to driving 10x engagement on LinkedIn without posting more. The Role of Controversy: How sharing bold opinions (without being toxic) accelerates reach and attracts ideal clients. AI + Your Voice: The exact way Sarah trains ChatGPT to speak in her tone and create authentic content. The Airbnb Myth: Why relying solely on Airbnb or "rented land" platforms is a recipe for disaster in short-term rentals (and how this lesson applies to every industry).   💡 Key Takeaways Trust is currency. Consumers trust people more than brands. Let others tell your story for you. Don't rent your brand. Platforms like Airbnb (or Instagram alone) are rented land. Build your own. Content consistency compounds. Most of your audience isn't ready to buy now — but they'll remember you when they are. Engagement > Posts. Comments and conversations drive more visibility than publishing alone. AI is a tool, not a replacement. Use ChatGPT to speed up ideas, refine your voice, and cut the fluff — but always add your perspective. Pick your platform wisely. Sales pros don't need TikTok dances. Go where your audience already spends time. Controversy sparks connection. Thoughtful, bold takes cut through noise and drive real conversations.   🔗 How to Connect with Sarah Stahl 🌐 Website: sarahstahl.com 💼 LinkedIn: Sarah Stahl   📣 Call to Action Sarah proved that when you align sales and marketing, focus on trust, and leverage the right tools, you can create explosive growth without burning your budget. 👉 If this episode lit a fire for you, share it on social media, tag Sarah and me, and send it to a friend in sales or marketing who needs to hear this message. And if you've got your own story to tell, I'd love to feature you. Pitch your story at callthedamnleads.com/podcast.   🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

Most people would never guess that today's guest, Marc Schmidt, grew up with a cleft lip and palate. That challenge could've held him back, but instead, he turned it into fuel—building a successful podcast, stepping into public speaking, and proving to himself and others that your story is your superpower. In this episode, Marc and I dig deep into the realities of imposter syndrome, what it really means when you feel like a "fraud," and how to keep creating content even when the results are small at first. Marc's journey is living proof that you don't need millions of listeners or a "perfect" voice—you just need the courage to show up.     🔥 Episode Highlights From Hidden Work to the Spotlight: How Marc went from behind-the-scenes TV production to launching his own podcast. Confidence Through Action: Why encouragement from others gave Marc the courage to keep showing up. Imposter Syndrome Redefined: The surprising truth—if you feel it, it's probably because you care and operate with integrity. Early Struggles of Podcasting: Guests who didn't show, episodes that flopped, and how persistence kept Marc in the game. The Value of Early Supporters: Why the first few people who cheer you on matter more than the masses. Small Audiences = Big Impact: How even 150 views can be life-changing if the right person hears your message. Future Vision: Marc's mission to mentor new podcasters and help others find their voice.   💡 Key Takeaways Authenticity wins. Being yourself is the most powerful sales and branding tool you have. Encouragement has ripple effects. A single "you've got this" can change someone's trajectory. Imposter syndrome = integrity. It's not about being fake—it means you care about showing up the right way. Persistence beats perfection. Every podcaster, entrepreneur, or salesperson stumbles. The ones who win just don't quit. Impact > numbers. Even a handful of listeners or viewers can make your work worthwhile if it sparks transformation.   🔗 How to Connect with Marc Schmidt 🎧 Podcast: Marc My Words (available everywhere podcasts stream — Apple, Spotify, etc.) 🌐 C-Suite Radio Headliner: C-Suite Network 📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcschmidt 📌 Podmatch Podcast Network: Discover Marc + other great shows there     📣 Call to Action Marc's story is a reminder that you don't need to be "perfect" to make an impact—you just need to start. Whether it's podcasting, sales, or creating content, the most important step is showing up consistently. 👉 If you enjoyed this episode, share it on social media, tag Marc and me, and send it to someone struggling with imposter syndrome. Be that early supporter who makes a difference in their journey. And if you've got a sales story of your own to share, I'd love to hear it. Pitch yourself at https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

Sales doesn't have to feel fake, forced, or manipulative. In fact, the most powerful sales strategy might just be showing up as yourself, being consistent, and having the courage to challenge prospects when it matters most. In this episode, I sit down with Bryan McDonald, sales coach and founder of On Purpose Growth, to dig into the psychology of selling, building authority, and why respect will take you further than being liked. From his early career "trial by fire" lessons to his proven frameworks that help sales pros succeed without losing themselves, Bryan shares straight-talk strategies you can put into play immediately.     🔥 Episode Highlights Trial by Fire: How Bryan's very first sales manager taught him everything not to do when clients begged him never to bring the guy back. Authenticity Over Persona: Why "shape-shifting" kills trust—and how unapologetically being yourself creates authority. Punch & Hug Philosophy: Bryan's unique approach to challenging prospects while still earning their trust. Frameworks vs. Scripts: Why scripts can feel fake, and how frameworks give salespeople freedom to be authentic. Respect Over Likeability: Why seeking respect builds stronger long-term relationships than simply trying to be liked. Emotion First, Logic Second: How sales conversations always start irrationally, and why you must connect emotionally before logic kicks in. Challenging Builds Trust: How saying "why do you even want to do this?" creates deeper buy-in. Consistency Wins: Why most salespeople lose because they fail to consistently follow a process and stick with it.     💡 Key Takeaways What you give is what you get – Show up with confidence, trust, and authority, and you'll receive it back from prospects. Authenticity sells – You don't need suits, gimmicks, or personas. Just be unapologetically you. Challenge with care – Don't be another "yes person." Healthy pushback earns trust and authority. Sales is emotional first – People decide with feelings and justify with logic. Learn to speak to the emotional brain. Framework beats scripts – Adopt repeatable structures, but make the words your own. Consistency compounds – The #1 skill most sales pros lack. Show up, follow through, and stick with your process.     🔗 How to Connect with Bryan McDonald 📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanmcdonald 🌐 Website: https://www.mcdonaldbryan.com/ ✉️ Join his newsletter: https://onpurposegrowthcommunity.com     📣 Call to Action Sales isn't about slick tricks—it's about trust, consistency, and the courage to tell people what they need to hear, not just what they want to hear. If this episode gave you value, share it with a colleague, tag me and Bryan on social, and spread the word. And if you've got your own crazy sales story, I want to hear it. Head to callthedamnleads.com/podcast and pitch yourself as a guest. Until then—be real, be consistent, and most importantly… Call The Damn Leads.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnlead

In this follow-up conversation, I sit down again with Dr. Joey Drolshagen to dive deeper into the power of the subconscious mind and how it impacts success in sales, business, and life. Joey doesn't just "teach" this stuff—he's lived it. From burning out on the road to now helping entrepreneurs and sales professionals reprogram their subconscious and unlock rapid results, Joey shares actionable tools and mindset shifts that anyone can use to break free from limitations. This episode isn't about theory—it's about results. If you've ever felt stuck despite reading the books, attending the seminars, and learning all the strategies, this conversation will show you why you're not broken… you're just programmed. And programming can be rewritten.     🔥 Episode Highlights The Subconscious Motherboard – Why 85% of your results come from your subconscious programming, and what that means for your success. Having It All – Joey's story of clients who believed they had to sacrifice their personal lives to grow professionally, and how he helped them build both without the burnout. Breaking Revenue Ceilings – How one client went from "I'll settle for $1M" to consistently hitting $50K–$57K weeks with less effort. The Beginner Mindset – Why "I know, I know, I know" will keep you stuck, and why being a "yes, yes, yes" person is the true unlock. Action Beats Information – Why so many people stay the same despite reading all the books and taking all the courses. Finding Fun in Sales – How making prospecting enjoyable rewires your subconscious to create more consistent results. Fulfillment in Service – Joey's joy in helping people uncover blind spots and make breakthroughs, even in a simple 15-minute call.     💡 Key Takeaways 85% of success is subconscious — if you don't rewire, you'll keep repeating the same cycles. Work + Life isn't a trade-off — you can build a thriving business and a fulfilling personal life if your mindset is aligned. Your beliefs set your ceiling — one client capped himself at $1M until he shifted his programming, then scaled effortlessly. Beginner mindset is non-negotiable — growth comes from openness, not from already "knowing it all." Implementation matters more than education — action turns knowledge into results. Enjoyment drives consistency — choose sales activities that energize you, not drain you. Fulfillment fuels impact — helping others break free of unconscious patterns creates energy and meaning far beyond money.     🔗 How to Connect with Dr. Joey Drolshagen 🌐 Book a 15-Min Call: coachwithjoey.com 📕 Free Copy of His New Book Reprogramming Your Subconscious Mind: The SMT Method for Rapid Results (with booked call) 📱 Instagram: @drjoeydrolshagen  🌐 Website: joeydrolshagen.com     📣 Call to Action If you've been stuck spinning your wheels, this is your chance to rewire and rise. Joey's offering a free 15-min call and a copy of his book to listeners — don't miss it. And if this conversation hit home, share it with someone you know who's holding themselves back. One share could unlock someone else's breakthrough. Remember, knowledge without action changes nothing. Take the action. Call The Damn Leads.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads