Career Notes

Liji Samuel from NSA sits down to share her exciting career path through the years until she found a job working for as Chief of Standards and Certification at NSA's Cyber Collaboration Center. She starts by sharing that she had always wanted to work in the STEM field, explaining that growing up she was surrounded with older cousins who were choosing STEM careers and it became an interesting topic for her. She accounts working for a number of companies that helped her grow into the role she is in now. Cybersecurity became a big buzzword for her, causing her to step out of the agency into US cyber command to help take up a management position for the architecture and engineering division. From there, she continued her cybersecurity journey first as the exploration director before moving into where she is now. Liji shares that there were barriers along the way that she had to endure and hop over to get to the right path. She says "So there are challenges and barriers that come across constantly with our work. Um, one just has to pause and reflect on how we can work with it, around it, or influence like our stakeholders and jointly create a vision around it." We thank Liji for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rashmi Bharathan, an Information Technology Internal Auditor from Wintrust Financial Corporation sits down to share her story as a woman with 10 years in the IT industry and how she got her start. From childhood Rashmi always wanted to be a good leader, helping those around her, now she shares how helping people is a passion of hers and spends a lot of her time volunteering to help those coming into this industry. She says "It's all about, you should know your connections. That is more important. So I would say that networking and volunteering is really going to help you to grow in your career," sharing that community is the key to her success and working hard to network has been a great help to her to get her where she is today. We thank Rashmi for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oren Koren, Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer from Veriti sits down to share his amazing story. Before entering the vendor side of the cyber world, Oren served for 14 years in the Israeli 8200 unit where he led a variety of cybersecurity activities and researches that eventually earned him four 8200-unit cyber innovation awards. When he left the Israel Defense Forces, he joined Check Point Software to lead their AI-based innovations and advanced data analytics projects that redefined threat hunting and SIEM applications. This eventually inspired him to start his own company, with fellow co-founder Adi Ikan. Oren shares that he had a love for music growing up, and wanted to be a musician, saying music was the catalyst to him becoming interested in the cyber field, saying "I believe the music helped me a bit with my career in cybersecurity." We thank Oren for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bernard Brantley, CISO from Corelight sits down to share his inspiring career path with others. Bernard started at the very bottom of the tech stack, and shares how he was extremely unclear about what it was that he wanted to do in life and how he was going to get there. Ultimately he reached a point now where he has the self confidence and an incredible level of success that allows him to be authentic and proudly share his story. Bernard overcame dropping out of the military academy and was trying to figure out how he could take these big dreams and aspirations he had as a child and turn them into something fruitful as an adult. Working his way up from the bottom he is now sharing how he overcomes those days of adversity, saying "I spend minimum time trying to like spin my wheels or, kind of stay in frustration or a down period and, and really, uh, try as quickly as possible to move from, "hey, this was a tough day" to, to, into, "all right, uh, this was a tough day because maybe I didn't commit enough time in this area, or maybe I could have had a bit better conversation with this person." We thank Bernard for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we invite our very own Chris Hare, N2K's Project Management Specialist Content Developer, to join and discuss her career. Growing up, Chris shares that she wanted to be a veterinarian, which slowly turned into her becoming a writer for the first part of her career. She shares that she started off writing marketing copy for the technology and E-commerce space, writing for everyone from NASA to adopting the written voice of the comedian, Wayne Brady. She shares that she was able to come up into her career after finding three people that were willing to help her when she needed it. She says "I became what I like to think of as a Pied Piper of seeking out three types of people. First, someone who needed help. Second, a person who served as a mechanism for my self improvement through my jealousy of them. And third, a person who gave me the nudge to continuously improve." We thank Chris for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ian Blumenfeld, a Research Director from Two Six Technologies sits down to share his story with us. Ian begins his story by sharing he wanted to be a scientist, slowly he began to figure out and pinpoint more of what he liked about science, which ended up being math. Ian explains how math began to become a passion for him, and he eventually tried to pursue a career in it by teaching. He discovered teaching was not the thing for him and then started to move into the direction he wanted too, taking on more and more challenging roles until he landed where he is today. Ian says "If you're a smart person and you have skills in coding, you can swim. So it's okay to jump. It's okay to jump into the lake, you can swim. Something will get you out. You will have, you will be able to find a job. So, if you see something that looks cool, if you see something that advances you to the next stage of your career, if you have to take a little bit of a risk, it's okay." Ian wants to be someone who helped make the world a little better when it comes to code and wants to shares his desires and passions with the community. We thank Ian for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Grace Cassy, and Associate Fellow from Ten Eleven Ventures sits down to share her career path, getting her to where she is now. Grace spent 10 years in the UK Diplomatic Service, working on global security policy in Asia, Europe, and the Americas. Earlier in her career she was an advisor to Prime Minister Tony Blair, specializing in Asia and national security. She also co-founded Epsilon Advisory Partners, a strategy and growth firm working with world-leading global technology companies and investors. Now she is a Co-founder at CyLon and is an Early Stage Investor in cybersecurity companies. She says "I think we probably don't need too many more words, but we definitely need a bit more action." We thank Grace for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jeffrey Wheatman, Cyber Risk Evangelist, from Black Kite joins to share his amazing story. As a strategic thought leader with extensive expertise in cybersecurity, Jeffrey Wheatman is regarded foremost as an expert in guiding public sector clients and Fortune 500 companies in connection with their cyber risk management programs. In his current role as Cyber Risk Evangelist at Black Kite, Jeffrey works to get the message out about the business impact of third-party risk and solutions to treat those risks. Jeffrey shared his career, along with is passion for cyber by explaining some of the roles he did moving up into his role today. He says as a leader we all need to be aware of the fact that "We make mistakes and I I'm a, I'm a big believer in sharing those mistakes and I think it's important to open the raincoat as it were, and let people understand that we're not perfect, we all need help and then that way they feel comfortable coming to you and asking for help" We thank Jeffrey for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nicole Sundin, a Chief Product Officer from Axio sits down to discuss her career path and what it is like to be a woman in the cybersecurity field. As a UX leader, Nicole has devoted her entire career to building awareness around the benefits of usable security and human-centered security to the broader cybersecurity community. She also shares some of her background as she moved her way up the later to get to where she is today. As a female in a male-dominated industry, Nicole shares her unique insights on embracing the responsibility of serving as a role model to women aspiring to contribute to the cybersecurity field, and the importance of building a diverse team. She says "Really, it's about building community in your organization and outside your organization of strong women or strong friends that you have that you can lean on when you know you're the only person in the room." We thank Nicole for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we welcome Jennifer Reed, a Principal Solutions Architect at Amazon Web Services (AWS) to sit down and share her amazing story. After Jennifer graduated high school, she immediately went into Marine Corps training, which she shared was a shock to her because she was the only woman when she got out into the fleet and every single place that she went. She eventually moved on from the military after learning some programming tools, and went into the financial services industry doing systems engineering. She got called back to active duty, and then afterwards landed at AWS. She shares that being a woman in this industry can be challenging at time, but she says "I do feel, um, good about the things I've overcome, but I also don't want it to be so hard for the next person, if that makes sense. I don't want them to have to have those same struggles to kind of overcome any perceptions that someone might have due to their their gender or their background." We thank Jennifer for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Hinrichs, Chief Scientist at Aviatrix sits down to share her story, with over 30 years in experience spanning a variety of networking and security disciplines and has held leadership and academic roles, she sits down to discuss her amazing career. Earlier in her career, Susan served as System Architect at Cisco where she spent nine years designing and developing Centri Firewall and a variety of network security management tools. She worked as a Lecturer, Computer and Network Security for eight years at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) where she developed a hands-on Security Lab introduction course for students in her first year, and later in her tenure, along with two colleagues, created a malware analysis course designed for senior students. With all of the amazing things she's done in her career, she shares the advice to new comers into the field, saying "I think also as you're trying to get that next job either as a student or as a professional trying to change direction a little bit, if you're coming into interviews being able to talk about a project that you worked on, even if it's not a project that really anyone uses, but if it's something that's interesting that you have in depth understanding of, uh, I think is super valuable to get you noticed." We thank Susan for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Suzie Squier, President of the Retail and Hospitality ISAC, or Information Sharing and Analysis Center, sits down to share her incredible story starting to get her into the cyber community. She first started getting into PR through an internship she did in college, then moved around a few times gaining experience everywhere she went. Suzie shares some wise advice, discussing not only her managing style, but also how she handles situations, along with how she deals with adversity. She says "I also have realized over time that I'm never in this alone, whether that's your personal life or your work life and even here, uh, in addition to a great team, all great team." She hopes people will jump in to the world of cyber with an open mind, and though it may be frightening at first, she says you just need to dive in anyway and not be afraid to try new things. We thank Suzie for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we are joined by Ted Wagner, Chief Information Security Officer at SAP National Security Services, or SAP NS2. Ted sits down to share his story on how he got introduced into the industry and why he chose this as a career path. He went straight into the Armyas a second lieutenant in the artillery field after high school, which after his time was up he decided to move on and started working for a company that allowed him to do a management training program. After that he found himself working on IT projects which got him interested in the field. Ted shares that one thing that has helped him throughout his career is teaching about very technical terms and turning it into more operational or business like terms for his students at MIT. He shares that people getting into this field should get as much hands on experience as they can, saying "I think those are all things that can really help someone who may not have all the experience, but this is a pathway to, to learn." We thank Ted for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week our guest is Merritt Baer, a Field CISO from Lacework, and a cloud security unicorn, sits down to share her incredible story working through the ranks to get to where she is today. Before working at Lacework Merritt served in the Office of the CISO at Amazon Web Services, as part of a small elite team that formed a Deputy CISO. She provided technical cloud security guidance to AWS’ largest customers, like the Fortune 100, on security as a bottom line proposition. She also has experience in all three branches of government and the private sector and served as Lead Cyber Advisor to the Federal Communications Commission. Merritt shares some amazing advice for up and comers into the field, saying "my personal philosophy is that no one has to go down for you to go up. I'm always encouraging my colleagues, um, and other executives to be thinking about how we can, you know, steal, sharpen, steal, how we can be good for each other, how we can collaborate, how we can, um, create more strengths in one another." We thank Merritt for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Karl Mattson, CISO at Noname Security, joins us to share his story. Having started out as a "military brat," traveling the world as the child of a Marine, Karl later joined the Army not long after high school. In the Army, Karl was assigned the career field of intelligence analyst and started working with the NSA. He says that was a real career break. Following the Army, Karl worked in the financial services world as a CISO. At Noname, Karl began by building out internal risk and IT functions into a strong, what he calls spectacular team. Karl recommends "deferring gratification as long as possible" when building your career. He says, "People early in their career, looking at government service, those positions don't, you know, make anybody rich overnight, but they are amazing career cornerstones to build on." He closes sharing the importance of relationships. We thank Karl for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Caroline Wong, Chief Strategy Officer from Cobalt sits down to share her story of her 15+ years in cybersecurity leadership, including practitioner, product, and consulting roles. As well as being a member of our very own Hash Table, Caroline also authored the popular textbook, Security Metrics: A Beginner's Guide and teachers cybersecurity courses on LinkedIn Learning as well as hosts the Humans of InfoSec podcast. Caroline's father pushed her to start her career in engineering, she went to UC Berkeley and got accepted into their Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences program. As a college student, she was looking for an internship and found eBay, where she says she worked an entry level position available on the information security team, and says the rest is history. She shares that she loves to teach her peers, and how she would like to be remembered for being a good teacher, saying "I think that my favorite part of the work that I get to do is teaching. Um, and in particular, um, being able to communicate about cybersecurity concepts to a wide audience. I have such tremendous gratitude." We thank Caroline for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's guest is Rick Doten, the VP of Information Security at Centene Corporation, he sits down to share his story and provide wise words of wisdom after conquering this industry for 30 years. Rick, like many others in the field started off not knowing what he wanted to do, so he tried out a few things, including doing in-user training and desktop support, eventually evolving to do systems analysis work and designing software. Rick shares that his main day to day roles are spending time helping out the corporate global CISO, CTO, and head of platform within the organization, he shares that his nickname is the neighborhood cat because he's everywhere. Rick shares advice for people getting into the industry for the first time, saying "There is a rainbow of different roles in cyber security, and I feel like I've done all of them in the last 30 years. So there are different things that, that you, the thing that like appeal to you the most because you're going to excel and want to hyper focus on the thing that you really, really are interested in and not the thing that you're not" We thank Rick for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we welcome Dina Haines, an Industry Partnership Manager with the National Security Agency's Cybersecurity Collaboration Center. Dina found from a young age, she was always interested in the field, taking after her father who worked in the space industry, paving the way for her to fall in love with the field. She worked in the private sector for a bit, moving around every now and again, eventually landing the position she works now. Dina says her day to day job is helping the NSA to bend and protect cyberspace by bringing in private industry. She says "I try to spend a lot of time listening and seeing where people, where they're coming from, where they're at, you know, potentially in their career, where they're at in their job that day, and then try to, um, support them and bring them up and, and float the entire boat." We thank Dina for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, our guest is Luke Vander Linden, Vice President of Membership & Marketing from RH-ISAC and host of the RH-ISAC podcast here at the CyberWire. Luke sits down to share his story all the way back to when he was a very young age where he was a child model and actor to where he is now working in the cyber industry. Luke fell into the marketing field after his time as a child actor, where he really started to find his passion. After finding his passion, he decided to branch out to different areas in the field, working in public libraries and advocacy groups, this is where he started to really enjoy the prospect of working with individuals who support organizations, which got him started in the RH-ISAC world. Luke shares that he wears many hats these days, working in the podcast business while also working on the leadership team at RH-ISAC. His advice for people getting into this industry is "I think with age comes this knowledge, but also with experiences. So, I mean, to that point, don't be afraid to go out there and fail, give it a shot." We thank Luke for sharing his story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Georgianna Shea, the Chief Technologist at the Transformative Cyber Innovation Lab at the Foundations for Defensive Democracies (FDD) sits down to share her incredible story, moving around to different roles and how that has lead her to where she is today. Her careers have taken her to many different states throughout the years, as she has learned and grew into the roles she took on, from Hawaii to D.C., Dr. Shea has done it all. Sharing some advice, Dr. Shea says "My words of wisdom are take advantage of every opportunity and don't wait for anybody. I try to mentor people and I talk to young people a lot, you know, trying to get into the field and, and I see a lot of waiting on other people." She explains that you are able to work on your own to become an expert, and taking that initiative will be the thing to get you to where you want to be. We thank Dr. Georgianna Shea for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices