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Author: Derek Alton

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This is my experiment in creating interesting podcasts about public sector innovation.

Disclaimer: All opinions on this channel are my own opinions or the personal opinions of those who I interview.
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For this week's Rent Free, I sat down with Brenton Caffin, the founder of States of Change, to learn more about the book that has most shaped his thinking. He chose "Reimagining Organizations" by Frederic Laloux and shared how he has worked to apply its principles in both States of Change and Government.
I’m on a bit of a mission right now: find government projects that actually worked. Not theory but Real impact. And in Adelaide, I think I found one. The Thinkers in Residence program did something pretty unusual… it brought in some of the world’s leading thinkers to work directly with government and help tackle big challenges. I sat down with Brenton Caffin, who saw it up close, to dig into what made it work (and what didn’t). Honestly, this is one of those ideas that sticks with you.
Right now, it feels like we are in a moment focused on austerity. Governments everywhere are cutting their workforce, but is there a danger with this? Nick Scott thinks so. In his recent article, "Why Budget Cuts Without Resource Reallocation Rarely Transforms Systems" he argues that when cuts are rushed or made across the board we end up not with more efficient government but with crappy government. But he also has a solution, invest in reforming the pipes of government. Read the full article here: https://www.shiftflow.ca/ideas/budget-cuts-rarely-transform-systems
Darwin, Adelaide and Sydney are now in the books. Lots of great conversations with super-inspiring Civic Punks. What is sitting with me? Temples, Cuts and Farmer! What does that mean? You will need to watch to find out.
Victoria is at a turning point. Before Government Innovation Week begins, here’s what actually matters: the forces shaping the agenda and what to watch for. Featuring Ross Ashman (PSN Co-Founder) on why this moment matters.
Pia Andrews is one of my all-time favourite Civic Punks, so I jumped at the chance to sit down with her and hear what 3 articles have most shaped her thinking: Death Sentence by Don Watson: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/death-sentence-9780143790983 Tim O'Reilly - Government as a Platform: https://shorturl.at/A8zxG  
Fixing Innovation

Fixing Innovation

2026-03-1801:44

Gian Durán shares a key insight from his PhD research in this week's Now You Know. He argues that we are not using the term innovation properly. When we say innovation, we mean one of three things: Rennovation, Innovation or Transformation.   You can read his full article here: https://futuregovforum.substack.com/p/change-is-plural-and-that-should
In another episode of Rent Free—the series where I ask people which ideas live rent free in their heads—I sit down with Charles Mcivor to talk about the article that has most shaped his thinking: “The Housing Theory of Everything.” Written by John Myers, Sam Bowman, and Ben Southwood, the piece explores how housing affordability quietly shapes everything from economic growth to inequality to politics. It’s one of those ideas that, once you see it, you start noticing it everywhere. You can read the article here: https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-everything/ Charles also writes a fantastic daily newsletter on innovation: https://innovationinthenews.substack.com/
Navigating Tensions

Navigating Tensions

2026-03-1105:15

Government today is full of tensions. Move fast… but protect democratic accountability. Experiment with new ideas… but keep critical systems stable. Use powerful new technologies… that we don’t fully understand yet. In a fascinating paper called “Signals from Apolitical Day,” the States of Change network looked for patterns emerging from conversations with public servants around the world. What they found was a picture of governments operating under seven powerful forces — speed, complexity, emotional pressure, politicisation, conflict, identity shifts, and rising expectations. But the most interesting insight wasn’t the forces themselves. It was the tensions public servants are navigating every day. In this podcast I break down the key ideas from the paper and explore what they reveal about the moment governments are in right now. If you care about public service, policy, or how governments adapt to a rapidly changing world, this is a conversation worth having. In this podcast • The 7 forces reshaping government today • Why the speed of change is outpacing the reflexes of government • How complex problems are pushing institutions into new territory • The emotional weight many public servants are carrying right now • Why innovation in government is really about navigating tensions • The emerging capabilities governments need to operate in uncertainty • Why institutions may need to learn and adapt in real time Read the original article Signals from Apolitical Day — States of Change 👉 https://states-of-change.org/stories/signals-from-apolitical-day-2025  
AI is dramatically challenging governments all over the world. Singapore is on the leading edge of this. How are they thinking about AI in Government? What can we learn from them? I reference this fantastic podcast by Ezra Klein on AI, definitely check it out as well: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6obzprTBpR6MosWu5vsua5?si=44ede13d15054d71
Is Singapore right!?

Is Singapore right!?

2026-03-0903:36

I am finally starting to wrap my head around my time in Singapore. It was a week jam-packed full of conversations with people at the centre of reimaging government, and also those who are rebelling against government and building something different on the fringes. There will be more to come, but here are my earliest thoughts.
Have we broken innovation? This is a question that Ian Montgomery explores in his killer article "The New Rules of Innovation." In it Ian explores how we have let innovation become swallowed up by the system and in the process, have it lose its transformational potential. Join me as I go down the rabbit hole with this banger of a Montgomery article. Here is the link if you want to read it yourself: https://nowornevermoments.substack.com/p/the-new-rules-of-innovation-goodbye
Can we fix hiring?

Can we fix hiring?

2026-03-0406:11

Hiring is one of the things government seems to suck at. It takes way too long, the salaries are often not competitive, and job descriptions are confusing and not helpful. Yet, if we can't hire well, we are unable to bring in the talent we need to deliver on our ambition, or really anything. In this video, I explore a book chapter by Robert Gordon, Executive Vice President for State Initiatives, exploring some experiments in fixing hiring in government. You can read the full report here: https://www.statesforum.org/january-book/government-hiring/
Another Public Sector Network - Government Innovation Week is in the books. What did we learn? How is digital sovereignty shaping the conversation? We are going through some of the deepest cuts to public sector jobs in well over a decade. AI was all over the agenda but how did the conversations play out?  In this episode I explore these questions through interviews with people on the ground in day two and my own in depth analysis.
I recently came across Rebecca Mbaya’s African Innovators series, which spotlights changemakers reshaping Africa’s tech, data, and AI landscape. It’s thoughtful, grounded, and well worth your time. In this video, I zoom in on her profile of Pombili Paula Haitamba, a data analyst from Namibia. It’s genuinely one of the best pieces I’ve read on what data analysis actually means in practice, not just the technical side, but the human and political dimensions too. I was so impressed that I immediately sent it to my old graduate supervisor and suggested he add it to his data analysis course reading list. Take a look, watch the video, and let me know what you think. Here is the article: https://reamby.substack.com/p/pombili-paula-haitamba-on-the-work And Rebecca Mbaya's substack: https://reamby.substack.com/  
Civic Punks Launch

Civic Punks Launch

2026-03-0114:54

Hi everyone, what an amazing evening to launch the dream that is Civic Punks. My friend Mike was kind enough to record the speech I gave, and I wanted to share it here. Thank you everyone who came to support this project!
What idea has shaped your work for decades? For Ryan Androsoff, it’s Wiki Government by Beth Noveck. In this conversation, Ryan shares how that book continues to influence his thinking on digital government, collaboration, and reform in Canada. Some ideas don’t just inspire you. They rewire you.
Your New Best Friend

Your New Best Friend

2026-02-2507:19

What if government were your new best friend? A companion who walked with you and made your life easier and better. Anticipating your needs and pointing you towards supports and opportunities, not to sell you things but to help you with your own goals. Helping launch my new series - Now You Know, an exploration into the debates and ideas shaping the future of government - is the reflection from one of my nerdy gov heroes Sir Geoff Mulgan. In his peice, "Can Government be a Companion?" Geoff explores four examples where government could be a kick-ass companion: 1) Health, 2) Skills and Jobs, 3) Money, 4) Your Local Community. Read the whole article here: https://geoffmulgan.substack.com/p/the-companion-state
Public Sector Network’s Digital Leadership Day for the Government of Canada is officially in the books. So what happens when you put 100+ senior public servants and partners in a room and ask one deceptively simple question: What does digital leadership actually look like in Canada right now? You get sharp debates. Honest reflections. A few uncomfortable truths. And, thankfully, a lot of practical ideas. I pulled together some of my takeaways, along with reflections from others, from Day 1 of Government Innovation Week. If you care about where the Canadian public service is headed in a world of AI, sovereignty questions, and rising expectations… it’s worth a look.
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